Did we actually capture Khalid Shaikh Mohammed mastermind of 9/11?

Airhog · 03-07-2003, 03:17 PM

Check out these two links and tell me what you think.

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/DJ30Df01.html

http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/Con...l=968350060724

Ksyrup · 03-07-2003, 03:22 PM

From that picture that keeps making the rounds of the guy looking disheveled and completely dazed, I thought we might have captured the Muslim look-alike of Ron Jeremy!

TroyF · 03-07-2003, 03:32 PM

Ksyrup,

That was exactly my thought. I figured Ron Jeremy was now a terrorist.

TroyF

Tekneek · 03-07-2003, 03:35 PM

Doesn't sound real good based off of those links.

rexalllsc · 03-07-2003, 03:37 PM

The US has made two other arrests (inc. Saad bin Laden) since grabbing this pud. It's him.

Airhog · 03-07-2003, 03:45 PM

Thats fine and dandy but do you have any proof to prove otherwise? The governemt can say all day that they captured him, but the only thing I have seen is that one picture.

Senator · 03-07-2003, 04:08 PM

Note to Bush: Please keep Airhog apprised of any and all secret activities.

Thank you.

rexalllsc · 03-07-2003, 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Airhog
Thats fine and dandy but do you have any proof to prove otherwise? The governemt can say all day that they captured him, but the only thing I have seen is that one picture.

Maybe they'll give us a live webcam to his interogation, huh?

Come on!

Airhog · 03-07-2003, 04:15 PM

Look im not saying anything, but isnt it just a little bit odd that a paper in asia reported that he was killed, yet we heard nothing about it, not even one article on any major western news sites.

sachmo71 · 03-07-2003, 04:26 PM

He looks like he smells really bad. Maybe he was hiding in a crawl space or something.

Airhog · 03-07-2003, 04:29 PM

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Originally posted by rexalllsc
Maybe they'll give us a live webcam to his interogation, huh?

Come on!

Look its obvious that you believe he was captured. But we have no more proof that he was captured, then we have proof he was already dead.

Ksyrup · 03-07-2003, 04:33 PM

Seriously, isn't that old news? I remember hearing that the guy was probably killed a long time ago.

Or, maybe that was another of binny pals. I don't recall that guy doing a gangbang with Seka anyway.

Airhog · 03-07-2003, 04:50 PM

Okay, here is another link that shows many sources of news and how odd this whole case is.

http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/completetimeline/main/essayksmcapture.html

JPhillips · 03-07-2003, 04:57 PM

Rexall: The two arrests story has now been discredited by numerous sources.

BTW: If Ron Jeremy isn't guilty of having a weapon of mass destruction, who is?

Anthony · 03-07-2003, 05:10 PM

that link doesn't come from an established news service. looks like someone's personal website.

you must one of those.

...you know - the ones who believe everything they read.

Anthony · 03-07-2003, 05:11 PM

LOOK OUT AIRHOG - THE SKY IS FALLING!!!

hahahaha, see, i knew it.

Airhog · 03-07-2003, 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Hell Atlantic
that link doesn't come from an established news service. looks like someone's personal website.

you must one of those.

...you know - the ones who believe everything they read.

I think your taking that out of context. most of it is documented from reputable news agencies around the world. The man does put a personal opinion on things in that article, but all those links are legitimate

QuikSand · 03-07-2003, 05:23 PM

I'm not one to overuse the internet cliche "lol" - but this thread got me, more than once.

The Afoci · 03-07-2003, 05:40 PM

How can you all still be on the internet when the sky is falling... I read it on a web site once that if you masterbate, you get a big ass... so watch out for that too.

Tekneek · 03-07-2003, 06:45 PM

The way some of you talk, you'd think the US government is honest. You guys don't really believe they tell the truth all the time, do you? I didn't think any adult in this country, and even the entire world, really believed the US government was an honest one.

Ryan S · 03-07-2003, 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Airhog
Look im not saying anything, but isnt it just a little bit odd that a paper in asia reported that he was killed, yet we heard nothing about it, not even one article on any major western news sites.

Newspapers in Asia also report that Israel and India (depending on where they are based) were responsible for the 9/11 attacks.

Senator · 03-07-2003, 06:57 PM

Quote:

The way some of you talk, you'd think the US government is honest. You guys don't really believe they tell the truth all the time, do you? I didn't think any adult in this country, and even the entire world, really believed the US government was an honest one.

What has that have to do with THIS issue. If we believe the government AT ALL, this makes us sheep?

Anrhydeddu · 03-07-2003, 07:00 PM

If they did not find a crotchless leotard in that house, then it's not Jeremy.

Tekneek · 03-07-2003, 07:03 PM

No, but the way you are jumping on Airhog for not believing the goverment would indicate that you might be sheep.

Airhog · 03-07-2003, 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ryan S
Newspapers in Asia also report that Israel and India (depending on where they are based) were responsible for the 9/11 attacks.

That may be true, but in order to objectively observe an issue, you have to look at several sources.

http://www.csmonitor.com/2002/1029/p08s01-wosc.html
This report says he was killed

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationwo...m22dec22.story
this one says he narrowed escaped capture.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main...16/wpak116.xml
this one says he was dead

http://www.da.wvu.edu/archives/02160...ld_nation.html
this one suggest that he was captured.

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default...9-9-2002_pg1_1

this article suggests he was captured several months before.

all these arcticles suggest that this isnt a clear-cut issue. We may never know what happened. And too believe the major news sources in the U.S. is just as foolish as believeing sources from other parts of the world as fact.

kcchief19 · 03-07-2003, 07:51 PM

Granted, our government hasn't helped its case by changing the story on this guy by claiming he's dead, then he's not, then he is and finally he is singing like a canary at an "undisclosed location." I wonder if that is the same "undisclosed location" we are storing Cheney in case the shit hits the fan.

Of course, the original article you cited from the Toronto Sun was a reprint from The Independent, a British paper with only slightly less credibilty than ABC News, which bit hard on The Indepenedent's story about the "mystery ships" in the Gulf and fell for the bin Laden captured story today.

CamEdwards · 03-07-2003, 08:07 PM

None of the articles you cite says Mohammed is anything other than alive. Two of them say authorities are wondering if a dead man is Mohammed. One of them says authorities doubt the body is Mohammed.

NONE of the articles state anything as fact... as opposed to the recent articles stating his capture as fact.

It's a pretty big distinction, but then again... there are people who will do anything they can to discredit this administration.

Senator · 03-07-2003, 08:14 PM

baaaaa

CamEdwards · 03-07-2003, 08:17 PM

mmmm.. Senator's looking nice and fleecy this evening.

sabotai · 03-07-2003, 08:24 PM

Anyone have the sudden urge to take Senator to an edge of a cliff?

Mustang · 03-07-2003, 08:31 PM

If he is dead, captured, alive.. not sure.

All I know is that, judging by the sweater he is wearing, he is someplace cold..

Wait.. thats NOT a sweater!

ewwww....

I think I saw that same guy on a discovery channel show.. 'Raising the Mammoth'

Senator · 03-07-2003, 08:34 PM

Quote:

Anyone have the sudden urge to take Senator to an edge of a cliff?

Would you like to explain why my opinion means less than his?

sjshaw · 03-07-2003, 08:41 PM

Well, obviously it's because he has more posts than you.

sabotai · 03-07-2003, 08:43 PM

Or it may be because the joke went right over your head.

(Anyone care to explain...)

Airhog · 03-07-2003, 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by CamEdwards
None of the articles you cite says Mohammed is anything other than alive. Two of them say authorities are wondering if a dead man is Mohammed. One of them says authorities doubt the body is Mohammed.

NONE of the articles state anything as fact... as opposed to the recent articles stating his capture as fact.

It's a pretty big distinction, but then again... there are people who will do anything they can to discredit this administration.

How do you know they recent articles are fact? because the government and the media say so? I have seen no hard proof provided that he was captured other than what CNN says.

Turth of the matter is, we are fighting a war, and during war the truth is changed to suit the government.

Fritz · 03-07-2003, 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Airhog
Turth of the matter is, we are fighting a war, and during war the truth is changed to suit the government.

There is a first for everything

CamEdwards · 03-07-2003, 09:33 PM

Or it could be that all of the other articles were reporting theories and suppositions, whereas now that he's actually captured, you're seeing sentences like "He was captured in the Pakistani town of blahblahblah", as opposed to sentences like "Authorities aren't sure if one of the bodies is Mohammed."

I think you've been listening to a little too much George Noory.

Why would you be more inclined to believe four month old articles that don't definitively state anything about Mohammed's wherabouts and an opinion piece that came from England's version of The National Enquirer over the very latest articles from the Associated Press, Reuters, and the like that DO definitively state what happened to the man?

Airhog · 03-07-2003, 09:53 PM

Im not more inclined to believe that one side is right and the other side is wrong. Im also not inclined to believe that the associated press or reuters is right.

I couldnt find any specific articles that were about him on reuters, just bits in other articles.

And CNN's only source he was captured comes from the US government. Oh, thats right, im supposed to believe whatever the US feeds me

CamEdwards · 03-07-2003, 10:05 PM

It's no use arguing. The black helicopters are already on their way to your home.

Say hi to the lizard people for me.

(this is my way of saying we're about to get into a circular argument, so I'd rather just back away.)

Senator · 03-07-2003, 10:05 PM

Airhog · 03-07-2003, 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by CamEdwards
It's no use arguing. The black helicopters are already on their way to your home.

Say hi to the lizard people for me.

(this is my way of saying we're about to get into a circular argument, so I'd rather just back away.)

thanks, actually I almost posted that in my last post, guess I should have

Remeber me, if you never see me again on this board. Tell others, dont let the government cover it up. The truth is out there

sabotai · 03-07-2003, 10:42 PM

Senator,

Here's the joke...

Q: Why do you take a sheep to the edge of a cliff?
A: Because it'll push back.

You made a sound like a sheep so...I said waht I did...

Now that I had to explain it, I'm sure it's not funny.

superbama · 03-08-2003, 12:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by sabotai
Senator,

Here's the joke...

Q: Why do you take a sheep to the edge of a cliff?
A: Because it'll push back.

You made a sound like a sheep so...I said waht I did...

Now that I had to explain it, I'm sure it's not funny.

It was funnier when Senator thought you were a jackass.

Anthony · 03-08-2003, 08:44 AM

if we were fed our info from "The Man", as Airhog would want you to believe - there never would have been a Watergate. There never would have been a Clinton/Lewinsky circus and the Iran-Contra affair never would have been unveiled.

you being from Oklahoma City should have better sense Airhog. if the goverment really wanted to, under your thinking, Timothy McVeigh could have been turned into Sheik Abdul or what have you.

just cuz X-Files is no longer on the air, don't take it upon yourself to continue Fox Mulder's legacy. it's cute, but not practical.

sabotai · 03-08-2003, 10:18 AM

"It was funnier when Senator thought you were a jackass."

It was.

Senator · 03-08-2003, 11:46 AM

I blame sleep deprivation and not by obvious lack of sense of humor.

JPhillips · 03-08-2003, 02:01 PM

As a friend of mine pointed out, we will be able to prove if it was Ron Jeremy soon enough. If he doesn't show up at the next gang-bang, we will know the government has him.

03-07-2003, 03:22 PM	#2
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	From that picture that keeps making the rounds of the guy looking disheveled and completely dazed, I thought we might have captured the Muslim look-alike of Ron Jeremy! __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

03-07-2003, 03:37 PM	#5
rexalllsc Banned Join Date: Feb 2003	The US has made two other arrests (inc. Saad bin Laden) since grabbing this pud. It's him. Last edited by rexalllsc : 03-07-2003 at 03:41 PM.

03-07-2003, 03:45 PM	#6
Airhog Captain Obvious Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Norman, Oklahoma	Thats fine and dandy but do you have any proof to prove otherwise? The governemt can say all day that they captured him, but the only thing I have seen is that one picture. __________________ Thread Killer extraordinaire Yay! its football season once again!

03-07-2003, 04:08 PM	#7
Senator FOFC's Elected Representative Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The stars at night; are big and bright	Note to Bush: Please keep Airhog apprised of any and all secret activities. Thank you. __________________ "i have seen chris simms play 4-5 times in the pros and he's very clearly got it. he won't make a pro bowl this year, but it'll come. if you don't like me saying that, so be it, but its true. we'll just have to wait until then" imettrentgreen "looking at only ten games, and oddly using a median only, leaves me unmoved generally" - Quiksand

03-07-2003, 04:15 PM	#9
Airhog Captain Obvious Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Norman, Oklahoma	Look im not saying anything, but isnt it just a little bit odd that a paper in asia reported that he was killed, yet we heard nothing about it, not even one article on any major western news sites. __________________ Thread Killer extraordinaire Yay! its football season once again!

03-07-2003, 03:32 PM	#3
TroyF Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Ksyrup, That was exactly my thought. I figured Ron Jeremy was now a terrorist. TroyF

03-07-2003, 03:35 PM	#4
Tekneek Pro Rookie Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: USA	Doesn't sound real good based off of those links.

03-07-2003, 04:26 PM	#10
sachmo71 The boy who cried Trout Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: TX	He looks like he smells really bad. Maybe he was hiding in a crawl space or something.

03-07-2003, 04:33 PM	#12
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	Seriously, isn't that old news? I remember hearing that the guy was probably killed a long time ago. Or, maybe that was another of binny pals. I don't recall that guy doing a gangbang with Seka anyway. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

03-07-2003, 04:50 PM	#13
Airhog Captain Obvious Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Norman, Oklahoma	Okay, here is another link that shows many sources of news and how odd this whole case is. http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/completetimeline/main/essayksmcapture.html __________________ Thread Killer extraordinaire Yay! its football season once again!

03-07-2003, 04:57 PM	#14
JPhillips Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Newburgh, NY	Rexall: The two arrests story has now been discredited by numerous sources. BTW: If Ron Jeremy isn't guilty of having a weapon of mass destruction, who is? __________________ To love someone is to strive to accept that person exactly the way he or she is, right here and now.. - Mr. Rogers

03-07-2003, 05:10 PM	#15
Anthony Banned Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Astoria, NY, USA	that link doesn't come from an established news service. looks like someone's personal website. you must one of those. ...you know - the ones who believe everything they read.

03-07-2003, 05:11 PM	#16
Anthony Banned Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Astoria, NY, USA	LOOK OUT AIRHOG - THE SKY IS FALLING!!! hahahaha, see, i knew it.

03-07-2003, 05:23 PM	#18
QuikSand lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Annapolis, Md	I'm not one to overuse the internet cliche "lol" - but this thread got me, more than once.

03-07-2003, 05:40 PM	#19
The Afoci Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Moorhead	How can you all still be on the internet when the sky is falling... I read it on a web site once that if you masterbate, you get a big ass... so watch out for that too. __________________ I had something.

03-07-2003, 06:45 PM	#20
Tekneek Pro Rookie Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: USA	The way some of you talk, you'd think the US government is honest. You guys don't really believe they tell the truth all the time, do you? I didn't think any adult in this country, and even the entire world, really believed the US government was an honest one.

03-07-2003, 07:00 PM	#23
Anrhydeddu Resident Curmudgeon Join Date: Oct 2002	If they did not find a crotchless leotard in that house, then it's not Jeremy.

03-07-2003, 07:03 PM	#24
Tekneek Pro Rookie Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: USA	No, but the way you are jumping on Airhog for not believing the goverment would indicate that you might be sheep.

03-07-2003, 07:51 PM	#26
kcchief19 Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Kansas City, MO	Granted, our government hasn't helped its case by changing the story on this guy by claiming he's dead, then he's not, then he is and finally he is singing like a canary at an "undisclosed location." I wonder if that is the same "undisclosed location" we are storing Cheney in case the shit hits the fan. Of course, the original article you cited from the Toronto Sun was a reprint from The Independent, a British paper with only slightly less credibilty than ABC News, which bit hard on The Indepenedent's story about the "mystery ships" in the Gulf and fell for the bin Laden captured story today.

03-07-2003, 08:07 PM	#27
CamEdwards Stadium Announcer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Burke, VA	None of the articles you cite says Mohammed is anything other than alive. Two of them say authorities are wondering if a dead man is Mohammed. One of them says authorities doubt the body is Mohammed. NONE of the articles state anything as fact... as opposed to the recent articles stating his capture as fact. It's a pretty big distinction, but then again... there are people who will do anything they can to discredit this administration. __________________ I don't want the world. I just want your half.

03-07-2003, 08:14 PM	#28
Senator FOFC's Elected Representative Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The stars at night; are big and bright	baaaaa __________________ "i have seen chris simms play 4-5 times in the pros and he's very clearly got it. he won't make a pro bowl this year, but it'll come. if you don't like me saying that, so be it, but its true. we'll just have to wait until then" imettrentgreen "looking at only ten games, and oddly using a median only, leaves me unmoved generally" - Quiksand

03-07-2003, 08:17 PM	#29
CamEdwards Stadium Announcer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Burke, VA	mmmm.. Senator's looking nice and fleecy this evening. __________________ I don't want the world. I just want your half.

03-07-2003, 08:24 PM	#30
sabotai General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Satellite of Love	Anyone have the sudden urge to take Senator to an edge of a cliff?

03-07-2003, 08:31 PM	#31
Mustang Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Wisconsin	If he is dead, captured, alive.. not sure. All I know is that, judging by the sweater he is wearing, he is someplace cold.. Wait.. thats NOT a sweater! ewwww.... I think I saw that same guy on a discovery channel show.. 'Raising the Mammoth' __________________ You, you will regret what you have done this day. I will make you regret ever being born. Your going to wish you never left your mothers womb, where it was warm and safe... and wet. i am going to show you pain you never knew existed, you are going to see a whole new spectrum of pain, like a Rainboooow. But! This rainbow is not just like any other rainbow, its...

03-07-2003, 08:41 PM	#33
sjshaw lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000	Well, obviously it's because he has more posts than you. __________________ Hollywood Media Whores FOBL CHAMPION 2007 2020 2035

03-07-2003, 08:43 PM	#34
sabotai General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Satellite of Love	Or it may be because the joke went right over your head. (Anyone care to explain...)

03-07-2003, 09:33 PM	#37
CamEdwards Stadium Announcer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Burke, VA	Or it could be that all of the other articles were reporting theories and suppositions, whereas now that he's actually captured, you're seeing sentences like "He was captured in the Pakistani town of blahblahblah", as opposed to sentences like "Authorities aren't sure if one of the bodies is Mohammed." I think you've been listening to a little too much George Noory. Why would you be more inclined to believe four month old articles that don't definitively state anything about Mohammed's wherabouts and an opinion piece that came from England's version of The National Enquirer over the very latest articles from the Associated Press, Reuters, and the like that DO definitively state what happened to the man? __________________ I don't want the world. I just want your half.

03-07-2003, 09:53 PM	#38
Airhog Captain Obvious Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Norman, Oklahoma	Im not more inclined to believe that one side is right and the other side is wrong. Im also not inclined to believe that the associated press or reuters is right. I couldnt find any specific articles that were about him on reuters, just bits in other articles. And CNN's only source he was captured comes from the US government. Oh, thats right, im supposed to believe whatever the US feeds me __________________ Thread Killer extraordinaire Yay! its football season once again!

03-07-2003, 10:05 PM	#39
CamEdwards Stadium Announcer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Burke, VA	It's no use arguing. The black helicopters are already on their way to your home. Say hi to the lizard people for me. (this is my way of saying we're about to get into a circular argument, so I'd rather just back away.) __________________ I don't want the world. I just want your half.

03-07-2003, 10:05 PM	#40
Senator FOFC's Elected Representative Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The stars at night; are big and bright	__________________ "i have seen chris simms play 4-5 times in the pros and he's very clearly got it. he won't make a pro bowl this year, but it'll come. if you don't like me saying that, so be it, but its true. we'll just have to wait until then" imettrentgreen "looking at only ten games, and oddly using a median only, leaves me unmoved generally" - Quiksand

03-07-2003, 10:42 PM	#42
sabotai General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Satellite of Love	Senator, Here's the joke... Q: Why do you take a sheep to the edge of a cliff? A: Because it'll push back. You made a sound like a sheep so...I said waht I did... Now that I had to explain it, I'm sure it's not funny.

03-08-2003, 08:44 AM	#44
Anthony Banned Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Astoria, NY, USA	if we were fed our info from "The Man", as Airhog would want you to believe - there never would have been a Watergate. There never would have been a Clinton/Lewinsky circus and the Iran-Contra affair never would have been unveiled. you being from Oklahoma City should have better sense Airhog. if the goverment really wanted to, under your thinking, Timothy McVeigh could have been turned into Sheik Abdul or what have you. just cuz X-Files is no longer on the air, don't take it upon yourself to continue Fox Mulder's legacy. it's cute, but not practical.

03-08-2003, 10:18 AM	#45
sabotai General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Satellite of Love	"It was funnier when Senator thought you were a jackass." It was.

03-08-2003, 11:46 AM	#46
Senator FOFC's Elected Representative Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The stars at night; are big and bright	I blame sleep deprivation and not by obvious lack of sense of humor. __________________ "i have seen chris simms play 4-5 times in the pros and he's very clearly got it. he won't make a pro bowl this year, but it'll come. if you don't like me saying that, so be it, but its true. we'll just have to wait until then" imettrentgreen "looking at only ten games, and oddly using a median only, leaves me unmoved generally" - Quiksand

03-08-2003, 02:01 PM	#47
JPhillips Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Newburgh, NY	As a friend of mine pointed out, we will be able to prove if it was Ron Jeremy soon enough. If he doesn't show up at the next gang-bang, we will know the government has him. __________________ To love someone is to strive to accept that person exactly the way he or she is, right here and now.. - Mr. Rogers