The College Years?

claystone · 01-20-2008, 01:17 PM

I know this is not the plays for this thread, but I was wondering what's your thought on this game? I was thinking about getting this game, and using it with FOF.

People who played this game, what is your take on it?

Thanks for your info.

st.cronin · 01-20-2008, 04:09 PM

I love the game, and still play it occasionally. It hasn't been updated in a while, though - Temple is still in the Big East, for example.

Hoosierbuckeye · 01-20-2008, 04:14 PM

We use TCY in the Dynasty League and we have a Dynasty University weekly update in The Huddle and a seperate forum discussion topic to discuss the players.

We do use the player files for the rookie drafts as well. Go take a look at

http://www.dfl.cc/

KC our commish does a great job with this added immersion factor.

Groundhog · 01-20-2008, 07:05 PM

I bought TCY some time ago but can't remember the last time I fired it up. Don't even know if it's still installed on my PC. I enjoyed it back when I got it but it's very dated now, has too much micromanaging for my tastes, and I never liked the Sol-8 addition.

GDS' Bowl Bound College Football is the better of the two sims IMO.

st.cronin · 01-20-2008, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Groundhog

GDS' Bowl Bound College Football is the better of the two sims IMO.

I would definitely agree with this.

TCY Junkie · 01-20-2008, 09:15 PM

My favorite game, but I don't think it is the best game ever. If you like recruiting and dont want to call your own plays, buy it.

Why doesn't FOF have an option where you have the same draft and doesn't change every time you load the tcy draft. I would like to think someone like jerry rice would have the same potential and pretty close combine numbers each time the draft is loaded. This would ruin MP fof but that is why it should be an option.

claystone · 01-20-2008, 09:18 PM

Can you take the Draft class from "Bowl Bound College Football" and export it into FOF?

st.cronin · 01-20-2008, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by claystone

Can you take the Draft class from "Bowl Bound College Football" and export it into FOF?

No.

nilodor · 01-20-2008, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by claystone

Can you take the Draft class from "Bowl Bound College Football" and export it into FOF?

If this utility is still around and you follow the instructions, yes.

http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/...llege+football

PiemasterUK · 01-21-2008, 01:35 AM

I've heard there are some issues with importing drafts from TCY into FOF. The overall talent level is too low.

Solecismic · 01-21-2008, 04:49 AM

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Originally Posted by PiemasterUK

I've heard there are some issues with importing drafts from TCY into FOF. The overall talent level is too low.

The import function actually looks for and uses a piece of TCY. It works better when TCY is installed on your computer.

I had disabled the import function when TCY isn't present at one point, but reinstated it in one of the patches because that didn't seem fair to everyone. The estimates it makes when TCY is not present may not be ideal.

Tasan · 01-21-2008, 03:02 PM

Wow, this last bit of info is VERY important. This needs to be stickied or logged somewhere.

Passacaglia · 01-21-2008, 03:09 PM

I'm not sure I understand it. You mean, the import function from TCY to FOF doesn't work as well, if TCY is not installed? How many people import TCY files without TCY installed on their computers?

nilodor · 01-21-2008, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

I'm not sure I understand it. You mean, the import function from TCY to FOF doesn't work as well, if TCY is not installed? How many people import TCY files without TCY installed on their computers?

Anyone who uses a created draft file, those are essentially TCY draft files.

A-Husker-4-Life · 01-21-2008, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Solecismic

The import function actually looks for and uses a piece of TCY. It works better when TCY is installed on your computer.

I had disabled the import function when TCY isn't present at one point, but reinstated it in one of the patches because that didn't seem fair to everyone. The estimates it makes when TCY is not present may not be ideal.

WOW this is a great piece of information, thanks Jim. Also I really hope TCY2 is around the corner, I can imagine it now - everything from FOF2k8 into the TCY setting.

Izulde · 01-21-2008, 08:43 PM

So wait, if TCY is on the computer, the draft classes and talent levels are more normal?

claystone · 01-21-2008, 08:57 PM

Well, I downloaded TCY, and the exporting and importing of draft classes worked fine for me.

JetsIn06 · 01-21-2008, 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by claystone

Well, I downloaded TCY, and the exporting and importing of draft classes worked fine for me.

The problem isn't "it doesn't work". The problem is it doesn't work "well". SkyDog ran a test recently, and I'm fairly sure he had TCY on his computer, and the talent levels were still skewed.

Can you verify, SkyDog?

Solecismic · 01-22-2008, 12:09 AM

FOF 2007, importing a TCY draft with TCY installed on the computer, will give you a draft class distributed like FOF 2 created drafts. Ben says these have more talent overall than the draft classes FOF 2007 currently generates on its own.

FOF 2007, importing a TCY draft without TCY installed on the computer, will give you a draft class that isn't completely correct experience and age-wise. FOF relies on a piece of the TCY aging algorithm when importing that, in retrospect, I should have simply duplicated in FOF rather than just throwing a quick estimate in there.

I'm not sure why TCY 2 isn't out there. It's not like it's not already designed and ready to go into heavy development. I've just preferred working on the pro game in recent years. I'm sure that will turn around some day.

astrosfan64 · 01-22-2008, 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Solecismic

FOF 2007, importing a TCY draft with TCY installed on the computer, will give you a draft class distributed like FOF 2 created drafts. Ben says these have more talent overall than the draft classes FOF 2007 currently generates on its own.

FOF 2007, importing a TCY draft without TCY installed on the computer, will give you a draft class that isn't completely correct experience and age-wise. FOF relies on a piece of the TCY aging algorithm when importing that, in retrospect, I should have simply duplicated in FOF rather than just throwing a quick estimate in there.

I'm not sure why TCY 2 isn't out there. It's not like it's not already designed and ready to go into heavy development. I've just preferred working on the pro game in recent years. I'm sure that will turn around some day.

Hmm, does this mean he is about to work on TCY 2? Or does this mean he is currently working on more FOF.

Vinatieri for Prez · 01-22-2008, 02:53 AM

Wow, Jim must have been a little tipsy to be talking like this.

Anyways, let me be the first to respond. Please go with "revitalize" the FOF series. And do it with a coaching/coordinator/staff overhaul as I have outlined in a number of threads. Thank you. That is all.

Izulde · 01-22-2008, 07:51 AM

I really really really hope a TCY2 is in the works soon.

nilodor · 01-22-2008, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Izulde

I really really really hope a TCY2 is in the works soon.

+1

Passacaglia · 01-22-2008, 03:29 PM

I think it's scary when a developer doesn't know why his own game is not available yet.

st.cronin · 01-22-2008, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by nilodor

If this utility is still around and you follow the instructions, yes.

http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/...llege+football

Wow, I had no idea such a thing existed. I am going to look into using this for the two bbcf leagues I am in.

Shakes · 01-23-2008, 04:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Izulde

I really really really hope a TCY2 is in the works soon.

I agree. I like to get TCY but want to wait until TCY2 (assuming it happens) comes out to use that for drafts.

nilodor · 01-23-2008, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Shakes

I agree. I like to get TCY but want to wait until TCY2 (assuming it happens) comes out to use that for drafts.

Could be in for a long wait. I think a political sim is next on the horizon, then who knows.

Uncle Chop Chop · 01-23-2008, 11:01 PM

The customers have spoken Jim, the demand is there. It's time for TCY2!

st.cronin · 01-23-2008, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Uncle Chop Chop

The customers have spoken Jim, the demand is there. It's time for TCY2!

Word.

Groundhog · 01-23-2008, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

Wow, I had no idea such a thing existed. I am going to look into using this for the two bbcf leagues I am in.

FWIW, I was never able to get this working. I was only able to test a handful of times though, largely due to the amount of time it takes to both sim through a season, and to generate the reports required to run the utility.

Gallifrey · 01-23-2008, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

Word.

Yes, it is indeed time!

stevew · 01-24-2008, 12:11 AM

Thanks for continuing the work on the pro game. College football, meh.

TCY Junkie · 01-24-2008, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Solecismic

I'm not sure why TCY 2 isn't out there. It's not like it's not already designed and ready to go into heavy development. I've just preferred working on the pro game in recent years. I'm sure that will turn around some day.

Thanks for all the great products you put out and Support. Also is it "some day" yet?

33sherman · 01-27-2008, 02:05 PM

TCY2 is designed and ready to go into heavy development??!!!

This is the best news I've heard in years!

OldSchool · 01-27-2008, 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by claystone

I know this is not the plays for this thread, but I was wondering what's your thought on this game? I was thinking about getting this game, and using it with FOF.

People who played this game, what is your take on it?

Thanks for your info.

Its a solid college football sim, but IMHO suffers from too much micro-management (theres a utility which mitigates this somewhat, but some features haven't been updated to the most recent version) and some flawed abstractions (girlfriends,etc).

Haven't played in a while but I keep it on the harddrive.

markusg77 · 01-02-2009, 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Uncle Chop Chop

The customers have spoken Jim, the demand is there. It's time for TCY2!

I fully agree. I love TCY (almost more than the FOF series) and am really wating for TCY2.

What does it mean, that Jim doesn't know why it's not yet out

01-20-2008, 04:09 PM	#2
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	I love the game, and still play it occasionally. It hasn't been updated in a while, though - Temple is still in the Big East, for example. __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

01-20-2008, 07:05 PM	#4
Groundhog Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Sydney, Australia	I bought TCY some time ago but can't remember the last time I fired it up. Don't even know if it's still installed on my PC. I enjoyed it back when I got it but it's very dated now, has too much micromanaging for my tastes, and I never liked the Sol-8 addition. GDS' Bowl Bound College Football is the better of the two sims IMO. __________________ Politics, n. Strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles. --Ambrose Bierce

01-21-2008, 03:02 PM	#12
Tasan College Starter Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Houston, or there about	Wow, this last bit of info is VERY important. This needs to be stickied or logged somewhere. __________________ 2011 Golden Scribes winner for best Interactive Dynasty

01-21-2008, 03:09 PM	#13
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	I'm not sure I understand it. You mean, the import function from TCY to FOF doesn't work as well, if TCY is not installed? How many people import TCY files without TCY installed on their computers? __________________ Pride and Prejudice -- an FOF9 Lions dynasty, starting 1966

01-21-2008, 08:43 PM	#16
Izulde Head Coach Join Date: Sep 2004	So wait, if TCY is on the computer, the draft classes and talent levels are more normal? __________________ 2006 Golden Scribe Nominee 2006 Golden Scribe Winner Best Non-Sport Dynasty: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty) Rookie Writer of the Year Dynasty of the Year: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty)

01-20-2008, 04:14 PM	#3
Hoosierbuckeye Mascot Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Dayton, Ohio	We use TCY in the Dynasty League and we have a Dynasty University weekly update in The Huddle and a seperate forum discussion topic to discuss the players. We do use the player files for the rookie drafts as well. Go take a look at http://www.dfl.cc/ KC our commish does a great job with this added immersion factor.

01-20-2008, 09:15 PM	#6
TCY Junkie College Prospect Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: TX	My favorite game, but I don't think it is the best game ever. If you like recruiting and dont want to call your own plays, buy it. Why doesn't FOF have an option where you have the same draft and doesn't change every time you load the tcy draft. I would like to think someone like jerry rice would have the same potential and pretty close combine numbers each time the draft is loaded. This would ruin MP fof but that is why it should be an option.

01-20-2008, 09:18 PM	#7
claystone H.S. Freshman Team Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: NYC, NY	Can you take the Draft class from "Bowl Bound College Football" and export it into FOF?

01-21-2008, 01:35 AM	#10
PiemasterUK Mascot Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: London	I've heard there are some issues with importing drafts from TCY into FOF. The overall talent level is too low.

01-21-2008, 08:57 PM	#17
claystone H.S. Freshman Team Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: NYC, NY	Well, I downloaded TCY, and the exporting and importing of draft classes worked fine for me.

01-22-2008, 12:09 AM	#19
Solecismic Solecismic Software Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Canton, OH	FOF 2007, importing a TCY draft with TCY installed on the computer, will give you a draft class distributed like FOF 2 created drafts. Ben says these have more talent overall than the draft classes FOF 2007 currently generates on its own. FOF 2007, importing a TCY draft without TCY installed on the computer, will give you a draft class that isn't completely correct experience and age-wise. FOF relies on a piece of the TCY aging algorithm when importing that, in retrospect, I should have simply duplicated in FOF rather than just throwing a quick estimate in there. I'm not sure why TCY 2 isn't out there. It's not like it's not already designed and ready to go into heavy development. I've just preferred working on the pro game in recent years. I'm sure that will turn around some day.

01-22-2008, 02:53 AM	#21
Vinatieri for Prez College Starter Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle	Wow, Jim must have been a little tipsy to be talking like this. Anyways, let me be the first to respond. Please go with "revitalize" the FOF series. And do it with a coaching/coordinator/staff overhaul as I have outlined in a number of threads. Thank you. That is all.

01-22-2008, 07:51 AM	#22
Izulde Head Coach Join Date: Sep 2004	I really really really hope a TCY2 is in the works soon. __________________ 2006 Golden Scribe Nominee 2006 Golden Scribe Winner Best Non-Sport Dynasty: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty) Rookie Writer of the Year Dynasty of the Year: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty)

01-22-2008, 03:29 PM	#24
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	I think it's scary when a developer doesn't know why his own game is not available yet. __________________ Pride and Prejudice -- an FOF9 Lions dynasty, starting 1966

01-23-2008, 11:01 PM	#28
Uncle Chop Chop n00b Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Adelaide	The customers have spoken Jim, the demand is there. It's time for TCY2!

01-24-2008, 12:11 AM	#32
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Thanks for continuing the work on the pro game. College football, meh.

01-27-2008, 02:05 PM	#34
33sherman Mascot Join Date: Nov 2002	TCY2 is designed and ready to go into heavy development??!!! This is the best news I've heard in years!

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