GroupThink - 1995 offseason

[QuikSand]

GroupThink – Little Rock Rollers

This is a continuation of the GroupThink career, managing the Little Rock Rollers. The career started in 1990, and has been jointly managed by several of the regular FOFC members, with input from numerous others.

All are welcome to download the game files, and join in the discussions. (Note: the game files will rename your cities and teams, so back up your own universe directory before overwriting those files)

GroupThink Original File

For the detailed history of the Little Rock Rollers, here are previous threads that can get you up to speed:

GroupThink beginnings
House Rules
1991 offseason
1991 regular season
1992 offseason
1992 regular season
1993 offseason
1993 regular season
1994 season


And, in case you’d rather cut to the chase – here is the club’s record of success to date, after our taking over the franchise in 1990 (after the original one-player universe settled into maturity):

Year  Team  Eval  Perf  Diff  Proft FrVal Record    Playoffs  
1994  LTR   74    95    70    75    62    15-4-0    Conference Champion    
1993  LTR   73    95    72    86    50    15-4-0    Conference Champion    
1992  LTR   70    100   75    90    35    15-4-0    Bowl Winner            
1991  LTR   54    66    76    80    22    12-6-0    Division Final         

To download the GroupThink files:

Backup the contents of your current "universe" folder
Download the linked "Original File" above
Download the two update files attached to the posts later in this thread
Extract all three files into your universe directory
(you won't have the boxscores and game logs, but you'll be up to speed)


So, join in, play along, join the staff or just let us know what you think!

[QuikSand]

1995 offseason

Retirements

We start each year with a look at the retirement list. And as we may have feared, Roger Pritchett has decided he’s had enough. Probably fair of him – he comes off a season where he watched his understudy explode onto the league scene, but Roger showed everyone he was still getting it done when he was called upon late in the season to provide some leadership. An excellent career, and he’s one of those guys we’re glad to have gotten a ring. Way to go Roger!


Staff and Financial Decisions

Both our coach and scout remain under contract, and we have little reason to complain with either one. Both are young and good – and the team is playing well. No worries.

Financially, we dropped slightly back into the red this year, losing about $6.5 million. Our bonuses went up over $50 million, though, so part of that is illusory. No need to panic – we are doing pretty well on the books, as well as on the field.

We make a modest increase in ticket prices, keeping well below the nearest teams, and among the lowest in the nation. (I use Tijuana as a benchmark, theirs are very low)


Free agency situation

We may not use the franchise tag, since we used it last year on SS Donnie Bridgeman, and apparently the game enforces some weird rule that even though we have since re-worked a long term deal with him, he still essentially carries the tag. (I’ve heard people argue that this mirrors real life, I’m suspicions myself…) Regardless, it’s not an option for us this year – even if we wanted to, which I don’t know about.


As it stands, we have 37 players signed to contracts, and seven picks in the coming draft. That leaves us with nine real holes to fill, plus an additional seven rookie invitees to camp. We have $41.84m in cap room, with our draft expected to cost us $11.9 million – so we have something like $30 million to spend to fill those 9+7 spots. Fine.


Under our rules, we are obliged to make a contract offer to players who are fan favorites or idolized, and are the most popular player on the team at their position. For this year, that means we are compelled to put in the following offers:

MLB Lonnie Bell – 2yr, $6.3m, $3.1m this year
LT Hardy Woolridge – 3yr, $8.4m, $2.3m this year

Not too bad, after all – assuming we get them back, which seems very likely. Woolridge suffered a major injury, but at least he’s still a serviceable backup. Bell has just eroded from his once-solid self, and is now reserve material. And in both cases, let’s remember, they are coming out of much fatter contracts – so we are getting cap relief compared to last season, even if we re-sign them at these new deals.


Among our players now testing the free agent waters is 5th year CB Irv Boyd. He has been solid for us, as a former first round pick, but he will now cost us some $10 million this year and up after that, if we are to re-sign him. This may challenge the nature of our commitment to the CB position.


So, without further ado, I will post the files for updating, and we can look at all this together, and start formulating an offseason plan.

[QuikSand]

Here is the first file update

[QuikSand]

And here is the second:

[cthomer5000]

Oh god... look at Crawford. time to find an Idolized RB immediately.

EDIT: ugh, his popularity is a 98, it'll be tough to top.. At least he'll be cheap in 3 years.

[QuikSand]

Well, it seems to me that our main need areas are:

Left tackle (we’re now basically void there)
Running back (complement or backup to Biggs)
Cornerback (we might get by with our current starters, I guess)
Center (either re-sign Kramer :gulp: or else find someone to start)
Defensive tackle (could use improvement at starter, plus security past this year)
Defensive End (We could use more quality and depth than we have)
Kicker (Covington is asking for pretty big money)

[QuikSand]

Some fairly affordable free agents worth a look:

LG John Webb – at the very least, a solid 6th lineman
C Leo Johnstone – same thing, possible starter at center even
LT Lenny Bradley – cheap option at left tackle, perhaps
CB Wally Peterson – wants minsal, some reasonable skills


While T Tracy Pederson is no superstar, he is another cheap possibility at left tackle for us. He is a bit run-inclined (no longer in real keeping with our team philosophy) but still is passable.

At safety, I see that we started Richie Beyer all last year, but at this point, it seems that young Jerald Brooks might be a batter fit. However, there are a number of free agents who might work into the picture as well – like Melvin Houston (f we want to spend some real money) or Bubba Nichols (if we want to go cheap).

[cthomer5000]

I second the thoughts about taking a look at G John Webb and FS Bubba Nichols. They seem like pretty soild values. Making some moves like that could help us use cash to go after 1 real impact player.

[Doug5984]

Originally posted by QuikSand
Well, it seems to me that our main need areas are:

Left tackle (we’re now basically void there)
Running back (complement or backup to Biggs)
Cornerback (we might get by with our current starters, I guess)
Center (either re-sign Kramer :gulp: or else find someone to start)
Defensive tackle (could use improvement at starter, plus security past this year)
Defensive End (We could use more quality and depth than we have)
Kicker (Covington is asking for pretty big money)

Looking at the draft....
LT- It appears to be fairly week at this position, we have the # 7 pick in the 2nd round and I could see a guy like Tyrus Bensen being there, and being a solid pickup.
RB- Oh lord Crawford is horrible now....eh...That salary is gonna hurt us...In the draft if a player like TJ Aguillera fell to us at # 31, we should think about picking him, but I doubt he will last that long...after the top 2 guys in this class it isn't t hat strong, I have seen much better...I am not sure what we should do here.
CB- If one of the top 3 falls to us at # 10 I think we should pick one of them, Blaine Houston looks like he would be a great fit in our defense. (I am assuming we are letting Irv Boyd leave?)
C- this appears to be a 'normal' looking draft at this position, a guy like Mercury de Leon might be a good pickup in the 3rd round, if we don't sign someone in FA.
DT- I am gonna let prime handle this at DE, he is much better at spotting talent here than I am...one thing is though we need to be very careful when drafting a DT, I noticed quite a few guys who are to small to be moved to another DT position.
DE- Same thing as DT
K- I think we should look to FA to find our guy.

[primelord]

I won't have time to look through this until tonight. I hate to hold things up, but if you guys don't mind I'd rather we didn't move forward until I can look at the files this evening. Thanks.

[QuikSand]

My inclination is that we probably do have sufficient cap space this year to pursue one star-caliber player. If we book the contracts for our fan favorites at $5.4, that still leaves us with $25 million for 14 open spots. Assuming that the last 7 of those wil only costs us a total of something like $4m, that calculates to around $21 million for 7 slots. If we figure veteran minsal is average for five of those - maybe $1m each - that gets us to $16 milion left for two players. In my mind, that could easily be a $10 million impact signing, plus another $5m or so to spend on a solid player, or else distribute among a few minor upgrades in several places (up those $1m guys to $2m guys, that sort of thing).

So, I'm thinking that our cap plan for this year can, and probably should, include one solid free agent acquisition. For those of you looking at potential signings, let's keep that in mind - nobody has to be off the table.

[QuikSand]

I'd like to go after a monster DT (would be a good fit for our system and upcoming needs) and I think DT Karl Sinard might be the right guy. He plays on the left side, which means we'd have to move Clifton Ramsey back to the right side - where he actually has more experience (he will benefit from teh move).

Sinard can probably be gotten fomr something like $10-11 million a year.

The twist here is that Clifton Ramsey is:

a) up for a new contract next year;
b) asking for a huge truckload of money already; and
c) a fan favorite.

So, it looks like we will have little choice but to pursue him at some godawful sum... which we may need to plan for here a bit.

Maybe if we go after a big-time free agent, we only offer a one year deal? Consider this: we sign a guy like Sinard to a deal for 1yr, $12 million. Next year, we have both Sinard and Ramsey to deal with, and we probably can only sign one of them... but since they are both our own free agents, we work the market. If we get outbid on Ramsey, we put in a bid for Sinard. If not, we probably don't.

Mostly just thinking out loud here... but for right now, if we want to spend up to the cap, maybe Sinard is the best guy to go after.

[Bee]

At LT I like Irving Armstrong a lot as a free agent.

The G John Webb that cthomer mentioned also looks good to me. Also, C Leo Johnstone is decent looking as well. I wouldn't mind keeping our options open with our backup center Donovan Jackson as well.

Also, RT Bryan Fassero might also be a decent backup.

Edit: All these guys are cheap, always a good thing.

[QuikSand]

Since we hold the #10 pick overall, I thought I'd toss out a few possible directions to go with that pick, if they come to pass.

CB Blaine Houston looks like a good fit, at a need area. He should develop intoa dominant zone defender, and good all-around player.

LT Jeffrey Del Greco is probably the best at that position, also one of serious need. Some possible doubt about his development, but I'd be optimistic. He should be a stellar pass blocker. If not, I do see several LT prospects who should be there at #31 or #42 - I'd be optimistic we could get a starter in this draft, if we so desire.

[primelord]

Quik,

Do you like DT Sinard more than DT Hammontree just because of the salary difference? Or do you see something else in the ratings that makes you like Sinard more?

[primelord]

Another guy who is interesting at a need position is LCB Joel Chan. He is a guy we considered drafting and has developed quite nicely. His skills are perfect for our system and despite being better than Irv Boyd he is actually looking for a good deal less money. The amount of money he is looking for is very reasonable compared to the top CB's in the league. Is there anyway we could make a push for him and a stud DT.

I know we may be able to get a guy like Houston in the draft, but Chan is already ready for primetime. Just something to think about.

[QuikSand]

Originally posted by primelord
Quik,

Do you like DT Sinard more than DT Hammontree just because of the salary difference? Or do you see something else in the ratings that makes you like Sinard more?

Actually, primelord, I'm following your lead here. While my usual inclination is to look for run stoopers at DT, you have previously (and properly) indicated that in our defensive scheme, we need get maximum QB pressure from our front four, meaning that the tackles need to be in on the act.

In Sinard, I see a guy whose lkast two seaons marked 5.6 and 5.8 in PRPct, which are pretty solid for a DT. He posted 12.5 sacks last year, showing that given full playing time, he can definitely contribute to the pass rush. He's certainly adequatre against the run as well.

Hammontree seems to be somewhat more balanced, but as is often true in this game, balance often means mediocity. Look at his PRPct ratings - he averages 3.2 over the last three years of full-time play. He might be a bit better against the run, but it seems like we give up a lot against the pass with him.

So, overall, for our system, I think Sinard is the best fit. He'd be able to start full time, and should help with pass pressure as well as overall play on the line - he'd be a monstrous upgrade over what we have, and is far better than anyone I see in this draft.

[QuikSand]

Affording a DT and a CB from free agency, probably totaling $18-20 million between them, would clearly cause us serious hardship - both immediately and especially on the future. Looking to next season, we'll have a huge contract demand from DT Ramsey, and will need to offer one to DT Hammond as well. Tough to say how big a crisis we'd be in, but two major escvalating contracts wouuld certainly make things tougher.

[QuikSand]

Bee, what is our plan for this year at LG? I see we went with Penick there last year - is he going to start again? ARe you happy about that?

There may be an opportunity to upgrade there via free agency - and at the same time save money, by cutting Penick and signing a FA. Please check it out, from your perspective. I'd like to take the cut there if we can still feel good about what's on the field.

[primelord]

Quik,

Your thoughts on Sinard sound good to me. I agree we should go after him. I understand if we can't go after both a DT and CB. And it probably wouldn't make much sense since there may be a guy perfect for us available at our first draft pick.

Just to float another thought out there is it possible to pursue a 1 year deal with Chan? He isn't a fan favorite so the financial burden would be limited to one season and then if we took Houston he could take over the following year. That may not be the best way to sepnd our money, and I won't be terribly disappointed if we do go that route. It was just something I wanted to throw out there.

[Bee]

Originally posted by QuikSand
Bee, what is our plan for this year at LG? I see we went with Penick there last year - is he going to start again? ARe you happy about that?

There may be an opportunity to upgrade there via free agency - and at the same time save money, by cutting Penick and signing a FA. Please check it out, from your perspective. I'd like to take the cut there if we can still feel good about what's on the field.

If we can pick up Webb I have no problems letting Penick go. Actually, I have no problems letting Penick go immediately, since I would guess Gaines will still be available after free agency if we are unable to sign Webb for some reason.

[QuikSand]

Fair enough, Bee - that helps.

[QuikSand]

primelord, if we want to offer a one year deal to CB Chan, it's going to cost us something like $11 million just to get him to accept. That looks awfully steep to me - and rather tough to afford.

I understand your interests in getting him - I agree he'd be a great fit - but it would take an awful lot of work to do so. Stay tuned.

[QuikSand]

At the moment, I have the following offers pending for the first week of free agency:

C Johnstone - 2yrs, $2.5m
G Webb - 2yrs, $2.8m
T Woolridge - 3yrs, $8.4m
DT Sinard - 1yr, $12m
LB Bell - 3yr, $6.3m
S Nichols - 3yr, $5.8m

If we got all these guys, we'd have some decent depth at safety, some decent options at the OL, and a new star addition to our defensive line.

I don't have any idea how likely it would be to get DT Sinard this way - I'm just guessing with the $12m offer - dunno how he'll feel about 1yr/$12m versus, say, 5yrs/$55m... any thoughts?

[QuikSand]

I've added a cheap offer to young CB Leslie Cobbs - a decent guy who could serve for a year or two as our #4 or #5 corner, if needed. No risk - two year minsal deal.

[strait8]

Hi Guys, hope its ok if I join in?

If you are going to draft a tacle which is a bit of gamble in any round, I would look to sign this guy as a bridge starter or solid backup. He can be had for about 2 mill/Year including bonus.

Not great but cheap and solid.

[strait8]

This guy has good skills but lacks blocking strength. He looks like a possible backup. He is asking 1.3 mill no bonus

[strait8]

It looks like the team needs a solid backup at MLB. take a look at this player. good potential against the run and possibly a great pass rusher.

he comes with the virtue of being a thrifty pick.

[Bee]

Originally posted by strait8
Hi Guys, hope its ok if I join in?

If you are going to draft a tacle which is a bit of gamble in any round, I would look to sign this guy as a bridge starter or solid backup. He can be had for about 2 mill/Year including bonus.

Not great but cheap and solid.

I like Armstrong a lot too. I think he could start for us the first year if we draft someone in the second round and next year we could use him as a backup.

[wade moore]

Again a busy weekend for me.. I agree with all talk on the offensive side of the ball.. we seem to have moved to more of a passing offense, so Crawfords slide isn't as big of a hit as it could have been... on that note though, it would be nice tog et someon ein the draft that can step in to spell Biggs... McAfee did his part, but a more solid answer incase of injury would be nice..

[QuikSand]

strait8, we're glad to have you checking in. I wonder about MLB - we probably will end up re-signing our old man former starter Lonnie Bell, which would give us a passable backup MLB. The guy you noted there is decent, but a little weak in zone coverage - which our defensive scheme uses very heavily.

Bee, what do you think of this guy Armstrong at tackle? There are a fair number of decent cheap guys out there... Armstrong is solid, but not great against the pass. Do you think we shoud pursue someone to play LT?

[primelord]

Assuming we land Sinard, Bell, and we get our CB in the draft then we still probably need a little depth at DE and at WLB.

A guy like WLB Edward Pearson may make some sense as a backup. He is only looking for 4.5 Mil over 2 years and has put up pretty decent numbers when he has had playing time. Thenw e could look for some depth at DE in the draft.

[primelord]

Dola,

We could also look at bringing Donnell Wilkerson back. He still has pretty decent ratings and is looking for a cheap contract. We could either move him back to WLB (I am sure he has a lot more experience at that position so he should make the switch easily) or we could shift Peabody over to WLB.

[QuikSand]

Hmmm... I kinda like the idea of bringing back Wilkerson. He's still very strong against the run, and solid in coverage. Good fit for our system, and not asking for much money. I've put in an offer at his initial request.

[QuikSand]

I have also added a bid for T Irving Armstrong - he'll be a backup plan in case we don't get a ready-to-go tackle in the draft (as we hope to).

[QuikSand]

Free Agency

We have a reasonable set of target players in free agency this year – if we land everyone, we will probably fill up all our cap room (maybe a little bit more). But our team comes into this season fairly intact – we’re not really falling apart.


After the first week, we have the top pending offer to each and every one of our pursuits – that’s a good sign. Even with DT Sinard, where I half expected a battle, we have the only offer on the table to him.

However, in week three, there’s bad news. Pensacola has signed C Rondell Kramer, our former starter inside. And in addition, they have put a good offer up for DT Karl Sinard, making our pursuit there less likely to pan out.

It takes until week six to untangle, but eventually DT Karl Sinard chooses our one-year deal for $12 million ahead of Pensacola’s 5-year offer for $51. I guess that worked out well, then.

I release G Andre Penick from our squad, in order to make a little cap room. C Leo Johnston is the last FA to sign with us, in week 10. That wraps everything up – once again, we got all our pursuits.


Here we are with $17m in cap room, meaning just over $5m after we settle up with our draft picks. That should be fine – I’m already eyeing up a new deal with QB Benjamin Newton, who looks like he’ll be our backup this season.


Rookie Draft

We have four early picks this year – at 10, 31, 39, and 63. That should net us several players who can help right away. Our top need spots seem to be CB and LT in some order – I see CB Blaine Houston as our top pursuit with this early selection, if he’s available.

1. Manhattan - Rachmaninoff, Tim, RB, Utah
2. Norfolk - McGregor, Harris, WR, California
3. Fort Knox - Keith, Jake, T, Mississippi State
4. Tijuana - Kerr, Thurman, CB, Wisconsin
5. Ypsilanti - Del Greco, Jeffrey, T, Kansas State
6. Tulsa - Preece, Carl, DT, Fordham
7. Niagara Falls - Londerville, Michael, WR, Arizona State
8. Death Valley - Morton, Al, DE, Southern University
9. Champaign - Perreault, Cris, DT, Illinois

Personally, I saw LT Jeffrey Del Greco as the other contender for this pick – so in my mind, I know where I want to go. I’ll stop the progress here, and we’ll let everyone have a look before we collectively leap.

[QuikSand]

Here is the first file:

[primelord]

No shock here but my vote is for Houston.

[QuikSand]

Here is the second:

[Doug5984]

I'll second a vote for CB Houston.

[wade moore]

Houston even works for me.. I'm quite happy with what we have coming intot he offense at this point..

Just a heads up.. Blaine, McAlister, and Morrell all will end their contracts this year.. we may want to look into picking up an SE?

[QuikSand]

Good point, wade. Do you think we'll need to keep any of the above? I see taht even Morrell is asking for big bucks.

This WR corps could go down in history... these are five guys who are probably all among the top 25 receivers in the league, in terms of skill. We'll be seeing our former players for years, I'm guessing.

[QuikSand]

Okay, here is the draft so far:

10. Little Rock - Houston, Blaine, CB, Boston College

11. Thunder Bay - Aguillard, T.J., RB, Duke
12. Nashua - Kirk, Jerry, CB, Michigan
13. Napa Valley - Bourne, Brock, T, Arizona
14. Providence - Woodworth, Quentin, DE, Bucknell
15. Memphis - Doyle, Luke, QB, Northern Arizona
16. Key West - Wells, Marvin, G, St. Peter's, NJ.
17. Athens - Benson, Tyrus, T, Rutgers
18. Hawk Mountain - Damico, Craig, T, Texas Tech
19. Mazatlan - Stephens, J.J., DE, Illinois
20. Cheyenne - Lincoln, Vinny, WR, Wisconsin
21. Providence - Newsome, Ethan, T, Tulane
22. Wheeling - Sutter, Cris, DE, Arizona State
23. Fort Wayne - Johnston, George, T, Vanderbilt
24. Pensacola - Dixon, Jason, OLB, Notre Dame
25. Cheyenne - Ramczyk, Alvin, CB, Tulane
26. Bermuda - Rickard, Lewis, G, Virginia
27. Sacramento - Stroup, Tommy, TE, Boston College
28. Louisville - Crichton, Nick, T, UCLA
29. Key West - Sizemore, Timothy, QB, Duke
30. Sault Ste. Marie - Johnstone, Adrian, T, Notre Dame

The OT pickings have really thinned out at this point... if we want a future starter, we probably have to pick now, and settle for what's here. Otherwise, we try to get by for a year, and do better next time. Best guys left seem to be Cedric McGee and Rodney Everett - both of whom look like really nice third round picks to me.

But there aren't a lot of tempting options elsewhere, as I see it... there are several solid receivers, but past that I don't see much to love out there.

[QuikSand]

Well, with two tackles left on the board, not much else that looks too appetizing, and another pick coming up pretty shortly... do we want to again put on the table the idea of trading up to get an additional first rounder next season?

Your GM has been on the phone already...Fort Knox, who holds pick #3 this year, will accept our immediate pick, plus next year's 4th and 5th, in exchange for their #1 next year.

[primelord]

I say pull the trigger on that deal.

[Bee]

Originally posted by primelord
I say pull the trigger on that deal.

ditto

[QuikSand]

So, we accept the deal with Fort Knox, and gain an extra pick in next year's draft - hopefully another top ten pick, as we've gotten this way before. The draft unfolds more or less in our favor:

31. Fort Knox - Cox, Kim, T, Temple
32. Texarkana - Schrock, Andrew, DE, Texas - El Paso
33. Manhattan - Briggs, Vernon, G, Middle Tenn. St.
34. Norfolk - Londerville, Greg, G, Minnesota - Duluth
35. Fort Knox - Field, Alfred, WR, Western Kentucky
36. Tijuana - Sanderson, Charles, DE, Arizona
37. Ypsilanti - Hopper, Leslie, T, Maryland
38. Tulsa - Lowe, Randall, S, Michigan State
39. Little Rock - McGee, Cedric, T, Southern California
40. Napa Valley - Beamon, Bucky, DE, Wake Forest
41. Champaign - Rice, Randy, DE, South Carolina
42. Ocean City - Money, Cole, G, Oregon State
43. Kitty Hawk - Stamps, Max, DE, Appalachian State
44. Nashua - Avery, Dixon, WR, Kentucky
45. Napa Valley - Waldron, Vinny, T, Alabama
46. Lake Erie - Barrere, Jeffrey, OLB, Oklahoma
47. Memphis - Fletcher, Harris, DT, Stanford
48. Puget Sound - Alexander, Corey, S, Brigham Young
49. Athens - Goodin, Stan, CB, Texas A&M
50. Hawk Mountain - Mueller, Scottie, G, Michigan State
51. Mazatlan - Kornblatt, Rusty, DT, Syracuse
52. Thunder Bay - Arnett, Jeffrey, ILB, Notre Dame
53. Providence - Doelle, Harvey, TE, Murray State
54. Fort Wayne - Donovan, Hardy, QB, Tennessee
55. Fort Wayne - Bookout, Nicky, ILB, Ball State
56. Pensacola - Deese, Ralph, QB, Michigan State
57. Cheyenne - Huffman, Heath, S, Oregon
58. Bermuda - Clinton, Neil, QB, Mansfield
59. Sacramento - Coakley, Howard, WR, Oregon
60. Louisville - Malone, Joe, OLB, UCLA
61. Key West - Bush, Jamie, DT, Missouri
62. Sault Ste. Marie - Newsome, Graham, DT, Auburn

That brings us to our late second round pick... seems like a good point to stop, and solicit thoughts and input.

[QuikSand]

Here is the first file:

[QuikSand]

Here is the second update file:

[QuikSand]

On my list of "hold your nose and take 'em" picks here are:

TE K.C. Newhart
LB Randall Diable (lousy zone rating, otherwise very solid)
G Derek Lofton
DT Calvin Loshbaugh (upside?)
WR Martin Ward (returner, plus decent reserve wideout)
WR Karl Dockery (anticipating next year's need for WR)
DE Shaun FLick (maybe some upside?)
S Ted Knight (might switch to corner, good zone skills)
LB Jermaine Joseph (upside?)
LT Rodney Everett (upside - but just picked there)
LB Randall harmon (mtm void not a major issue for us)
RT Alex Weatherspoon

These are mostly guys I'd like to be grabbing in about round four or five of a given draft, but that seems to be the "cream of the crap" where we are now.