Ncaa Hockey

[Cards4ever]

Here is the bracket for the NCAA Hockey tourney!

http://www.ncaasports.com/images/nca...ko_bracket.pdf

Go GOPHERS!

[RPI-Fan]

Cornell is a machine. LeNeveu has the potential to win the tournament all by himself. In Game 2 of the series with RPI he made saves he had NO business making in the first period. RPI should hae been up a quick 2-0. And he did it in the other games too.

Plus, they have the size of an NHL team.

[Cards4ever]

Originally posted by RPI-Fan
Cornell is a machine. LeNeveu has the potential to win the tournament all by himself. In Game 2 of the series with RPI he made saves he had NO business making in the first period. RPI should hae been up a quick 2-0. And he did it in the other games too.

Plus, they have the size of an NHL team.

I've heard that they are a defensive team with a great goalie, playing BC to get to the Frozen Four is going to be a tough game.

Mankato is a 2 line team with goalies that can stand on their head(either Jensen or Volp).

I'm also liking the Gophers chances to get back to the Frozen 4 with Mercyhurst coming here and us playing either North Dakota or Ferris State.

The #1 seed that has it rough is CC, they get either Maine or Michigan on Michigan's ice.

[RPI-Fan]

IMO, Cornell is without a doubt the best team in the country.

In RPI's home game this year, Cornell played about as bad as they possibly could, and RPI played their best game of the season.

And Cornell won 3-2.

Team of destiny?

[Cards4ever]

Originally posted by RPI-Fan
IMO, Cornell is without a doubt the best team in the country.

In RPI's home game this year, Cornell played about as bad as they possibly could, and RPI played their best game of the season.

And Cornell won 3-2.

Team of destiny?

But, have you seen the western teams play?

Minnesota, CC, and Michigan are very good.

[Scholes]

I like the Gophers chances with their draw.... but Cornell has a right to be a little upset with theirs... B.C and MSU, two tough, scrappy teams.

[TroyF]

"The #1 seed that has it rough is CC, they get either Maine or Michigan on Michigan's ice."

What's shocking about that? A team from Colorado getting a #1 seed and having to play at Michigan for a right to advance. . . Never saw that one before.

Hockey and Women's Basketball. . . unbelievable.

For the record, I hope North Carolina defeats Colorado tomorrow in Women's Basketball. I love CU women's hoops. Even went to a few games this year. It's so unfair for NC to be a higher seed and play in Boulder it isn't even funny.

What a joke.

TroyF

[Cards4ever]

Originally posted by TroyF
"The #1 seed that has it rough is CC, they get either Maine or Michigan on Michigan's ice."

What's shocking about that? A team from Colorado getting a #1 seed and having to play at Michigan for a right to advance. . . Never saw that one before.

Hockey and Women's Basketball. . . unbelievable.

For the record, I hope North Carolina defeats Colorado tomorrow in Women's Basketball. I love CU women's hoops. Even went to a few games this year. It's so unfair for NC to be a higher seed and play in Boulder it isn't even funny.

What a joke.

TroyF

Troy, Troy, Troy, do we have to go through this again?!

The reason why this is, teams bid on regionals. If CC(or any team), wants to pay the money to host a regional, they can do it!

NCAA Hockey places host teams in their own arenas(or areas) for regionals to insure sellouts.

If CC had beat Minnesota on Saturday night in the conference tourney, they would have been placed in Minneapolis, also not a great place to be with how Minnesota is playing right now.

One more note, the seeding process in hockey is known before the season, so all teams know how it works going in, I have a few gripes with the system, but there is no perfect world.

[Cards4ever]

Dola

Future Sites
2004
•Northeast Regional: Verizon Wireless Arena, Manchester, N.H.
•East Regional: Pepsi Arena, Albany, N.Y.
•Midwest Regional: Van Andel Arena, Grand Rapids, Mich.
•West Regional: Colorado Springs World Arena, Colorado Springs, Colo.
•Frozen Four: FleetCenter, Boston

Next year if CC makes the tourney, they will have home ice and other teams will have to deal with that.

[Cards4ever]

Games start tomorrow!

[sachmo71]

Keep us updated, Cards!

[tucker342]

I actually really enjoy college hockey. I wish the University of Iowa had a team. Keep us updated

[Cards4ever]

4 games today, no upsets!

In the West

Ferris State beat North Dakota 5-2, thank god, I hate the Sioux!

The Gophers beat Mercyhurst 9-2, game was not close, the Gophers out shot Mercyhurst 27-8 in the second period.

Tomorrow Minnesota plays Ferris State for the West Region Championship!


In the Northeast

Boston U beat Harvard 6-4

and

UNH beat SCSU 5-2

Don't have many details about these games because they weren't on TV in my area, or I was at the Gopher game.

I do know that UNH scored 10 seconds into the game.

Tomorrow UNH plays BU for the Northeast Region Championship!

Lots of games tomorrow, Cornell the #1 team in the country plays Mankato, or Minnesota State University at Noon eastern in their first round matchup.

[KWhit]

Originally posted by Cards4ever

Ferris State beat North Dakota 5-2, thank god, I hate the Sioux!

Racist!

[bosshogg23]

I used to listen to Michigan hockey games alot, but live in Philly now so I cant. What does everyone think of their chances to advance to the Frozen Four?

[cmp]

Ferris State will win it all.

[Cards4ever]

Originally posted by bosshogg23
I used to listen to Michigan hockey games alot, but live in Philly now so I cant. What does everyone think of their chances to advance to the Frozen Four?

Well, they are a #3 seed in the Midwest with a tough game against Maine tomorrow and if they win, they will probably play CC, tough task, but they are on home ice.

[Cards4ever]

Originally posted by KWhit
Racist!

Dola

Good one! hehehe

[Cards4ever]

Originally posted by gold101
Ferris State will win it all.

Ah, no they won't!

Minnesota 7 Ferris State 4

1 ticket punched for the Frozen 4!

In other action

In the Midwest Region

CC beat Wayne State 4-2

and
Michigan beat Maine 2-1

Tomorrow CC and Michigan play for the Midwest Championship


In the East Region

Cornell beat Mankato 5-2

and

BC beat Ohio State 1-0

Tomorrow Cornell plays BC for the East Championship

[DeToxRox]

Michigan vs Maine was a classic.

It was intense, just a classic.

Al Montoya, Michigans 18 year old Phenom goalie was sensational. He finished with 35 saves, and now has to rest up to play the best offense in the land.

I can't wait.

[MylesKnight]

Holy Crap!! And I thought the "Homecourt Advantages" the NCAA Basketball Committee gave certain teams was bad.... Syracuse, Marquette (somewhat), Texas a year ago and this year as well..

Check out the Hockey Tournament.

Shame on the Committee for putting Michigan in the Ann Arbor Regional and Minnesota in a regional on their home ice as well (although in the Gophers case, at least you could say they sort of earned that right a bit).

Does one of the higher ups in NCAA Hockey want to make sure the Wolverines get the best shot possible at playing in the Frozen Four or what? Ridiculous.

[Cards4ever]

Originally posted by MylesKnight
Holy Crap!! And I thought the "Homecourt Advantages" the NCAA Basketball Committee gave certain teams was bad.... Syracuse, Marquette (somewhat), Texas a year ago and this year as well..

Check out the Hockey Tournament.

Shame on the Committee for putting Michigan in the Ann Arbor Regional and Minnesota in a regional on their home ice as well (although in the Gophers case, at least you could say they sort of earned that right a bit).

Does one of the higher ups in NCAA Hockey want to make sure the Wolverines get the best shot possible at playing in the Frozen Four or what? Ridiculous.

Hockey regionals are bid on in advance, and the rule is teams stay at home to make sure tickets are sold. That's just the way it goes.

Now, you do have to make the tournament too, so, that is also a factor.

NCAA hockey doesn't have the big TV contract that basketball does, if it did, then you would see some changes in how and where teams play.

[ice4277]

Originally posted by MylesKnight
Holy Crap!! And I thought the "Homecourt Advantages" the NCAA Basketball Committee gave certain teams was bad.... Syracuse, Marquette (somewhat), Texas a year ago and this year as well..

Check out the Hockey Tournament.

Shame on the Committee for putting Michigan in the Ann Arbor Regional and Minnesota in a regional on their home ice as well (although in the Gophers case, at least you could say they sort of earned that right a bit).

Does one of the higher ups in NCAA Hockey want to make sure the Wolverines get the best shot possible at playing in the Frozen Four or what? Ridiculous.

The NCAA purposely does that to try and draw bigger crowds out to the games. It may not be exactly fair but, everybody knows its going to work out that way. I believe they are doing somewhat of the same thing in the women's basketball tourney but I'm not 100% sure.

EDIT: Nevermind

[wheels]

M-I-N-N-E-S-O-T-A

'SOTA! 'SOTA!

YEA GOPHERS!

[Anrhydeddu]

The last time CC went to the Frozen Four, it was also on Michigan's ice (I believe). Just the bad luck of the draw because next year, Selja (sp?) won't be playing for us.

[Cards4ever]

Originally posted by Anrhydeddu
The last time CC went to the Frozen Four, it was also on Michigan's ice (I believe). Just the bad luck of the draw because next year, Selja (sp?) won't be playing for us.

Sejna is a stud, I'm guessing he will win the Hobey Baker Trophy. Preissing is also up for the award, excellent Defenseman. The CC Michigan game tomorrow is going to be a good one.

[TroyF]

Cards,

I don't care how far the regionals are bid in advance. I'll be pissed if Michigan has to face CC in Colorado Springs as a #1 seed.

It's pathetic. You want your sport to be taken seriously and you do this? Some fans are worth the credibility of the entire tournament? I can't stand the way hockey and women's basketball do it. They may as well be like Division one football and not have a tournament at all. (I know, Anrh, you'd love that)

TroyF

[Cards4ever]

Originally posted by TroyF
Cards,

I don't care how far the regionals are bid in advance. I'll be pissed if Michigan has to face CC in Colorado Springs as a #1 seed.

It's pathetic. You want your sport to be taken seriously and you do this? Some fans are worth the credibility of the entire tournament? I can't stand the way hockey and women's basketball do it. They may as well be like Division one football and not have a tournament at all. (I know, Anrh, you'd love that)

TroyF

Troy,

It's a 16 team tournament and there is just not enough interest to have the neutral sites that basketball has, and even in basketball, the top seeds are given paths that could be suspect in your world.

About the only thing I can concede to you on this is, I think playing in Mariucci arena or Yost is to play in the Xcel Center or Joe Louis Arena. To move the regionals to a place like Chicago just wouldn't work, Chicago is probably not going to bid to host one, simply because there is not going to be enough ticket buyers. Pathetic in your eyes maybe, but you have to be a realist and realize that $ drive sports and college hockey is not big enough to get closer to what you would like to see, at least yet.

[Scholes]

I don't see how it's any different than a pro team "earning" home-field advantage in the playoffs...

Granted Michigan didn't exactly earn their home ice, but I would like to think that a handful of championships and enthusiatic fan support gets you somewhere.

And as someone said before, they're already in place. You have to make the tourney to take advantage of it, which is no small feat, and it's available for everyone to bid on.

I'm fairly positive within the next couple seasons the Gophers or Wolverines will end up having to go out east to face BC or BU on their home ice, or something to that effect. What goes around, comes around. The best you can do is take advantage of the present season's situation. (I.E. Gophers last season)

[TroyF]

Cards and Scholes,

You don't see how Michigan, who has now got to play on their home ice twice in two years without "earning" a number 1 seed gets an unfair advantage?

If it's so tough to get into the regionals and there was a likelihood Michigan wouldn't be there, why not send Michigan to another bracket if they don't "earn" the #1 seed?

I'm sorry, I simply can't take college hockey seriously as a sport when teams who actually do earn #1 seeds routinely get sent on the road to earn their trip to go to the Frozen Four.

It's as silly as giving LSU a #1 seed in Women's Hoops and telling them that they have to beat Stanford on the road to go to the Final Four. (thankfully Stanford lost so the sham ended, sadly two #3 seeds were knocked out on the road)

I'll end the debate here, I do ***understand*** why it takes place. I do not not agree with it (no matter what those reasons are) and never will.

TroyF

[Cards4ever]

Originally posted by TroyF
Cards and Scholes,

You don't see how Michigan, who has now got to play on their home ice twice in two years without "earning" a number 1 seed gets an unfair advantage?

If it's so tough to get into the regionals and there was a likelihood Michigan wouldn't be there, why not send Michigan to another bracket if they don't "earn" the #1 seed?

I'm sorry, I simply can't take college hockey seriously as a sport when teams who actually do earn #1 seeds routinely get sent on the road to earn their trip to go to the Frozen Four.

It's as silly as giving LSU a #1 seed in Women's Hoops and telling them that they have to beat Stanford on the road to go to the Final Four. (thankfully Stanford lost so the sham ended, sadly two #3 seeds were knocked out on the road)

I'll end the debate here, I do ***understand*** why it takes place. I do not not agree with it (no matter what those reasons are) and never will.

TroyF

Troy,

I guess it's because you are not a College Hockey fan that you don't accept the system. Life is not fair and neither is sports.

The fans of the sport accept the system as it is, the only other solution is to have home series, but in a tournament setting that is hard to do.

Next year, the Gophers are probably going to be better than they are this year, what does that mean? It means a trip to CC or Grand Rapids, Michigan. If they are good enough, they will win anyplace. That's just how it goes.

Look at the NCAA BB tourney, is it fair that Syracuse, a 3 seed is playing in Albany today against #1 seed Oklahoma? I don't hear the outrage about that.

Why get up in arms about it and just enjoy the games, as it's been seen lately, there is much more to life than sports.

[TroyF]

Cards,

Please don't lecture me about the important things in life. I know there are, but it has nothing to do with the context of this discussion. You think it's fair and you're a fan. Congrats.

I think it sucks and it hampers my enjoyment of the sports. I'll deal with it. Why get up in arms about it? Because I think it's a joke. You disagree and that's fine. I'm sure there are other things where the situation is reversed.

TroyF

[Cards4ever]

Originally posted by TroyF
Cards,

Please don't lecture me about the important things in life. I know there are, but it has nothing to do with the context of this discussion. You think it's fair and you're a fan. Congrats.

I think it sucks and it hampers my enjoyment of the sports. I'll deal with it. Why get up in arms about it? Because I think it's a joke. You disagree and that's fine. I'm sure there are other things where the situation is reversed.

TroyF

Well, then I guess you will be upset that Syracuse is in the Final Four of BB too, oh well.


Anyways, back to the reports!

Cornell takes the third berth in the Frozen 4 with a 2-1 double OT victory over BC!

One team left to go, it's either CC or Michigan!

[Cards4ever]

dola

I never said it was fair, I said it's the system and I hope that one day college hockey is so popular that it is like the BB tourney with alot more teams and alot more choices as to where to play the games.

[TroyF]

Well, then I guess you will be upset that Syracuse is in the Final Four of BB too, oh well.

Cards,

I think, time and time again, I've said that I don't think it is fair in any situation. I've said I hate it anytime it happens, regardless if it's my team or not.

To update your scores, Michigan is the fourth team in the FF. They beat CC 5-3. Congrats Wolverines. Yippee.

TroyF

[Cards4ever]

Originally posted by TroyF
Well, then I guess you will be upset that Syracuse is in the Final Four of BB too, oh well.

Cards,

I think, time and time again, I've said that I don't think it is fair in any situation. I've said I hate it anytime it happens, regardless if it's my team or not.

To update your scores, Michigan is the fourth team in the FF. They beat CC 5-3. Congrats Wolverines. Yippee.

TroyF

Troy,

You have said that, but, don't you think you are being at least a little bit unrealistic?

I was hoping CC would win, but, as I was afraid, they peaked at the wrong time this year. That stuff is going to happen when you have one game to advance or get knocked out.

The Frozen 4 starts on April 10th with Minnesota against Michigan and Cornell against UNH.

[Cards4ever]

Here is NHL.com's preview of the Frozen 4!

The first games are on Thursday!

http://www.nhl.com/intheslot/read/co...ege040303.html

[Cards4ever]

Dola,

Peter Sejna, who is a Hobey Baker Candidate signed with the Blues and played today, scoring a goal! Good luck to him, he was a very good college player and you should enjoy him Blues fans.

[tucker342]

I love the Frozen Four! It's great hockey. I'm still waiting for the University of Iowa to field a hockey team

[Cards4ever]

Originally posted by tucker342
I love the Frozen Four! It's great hockey. I'm still waiting for the University of Iowa to field a hockey team

Did you lose the recipe for ice down there?!

[SunDancer]

I always feel that if you are No. 1 seed worthy, then you have the ability to be anyone, anyplace.

[Cards4ever]

Originally posted by SunDancer
I always feel that if you are No. 1 seed worthy, then you have the ability to be anyone, anyplace.

In Troy's defense, he just wants things to be absolutely fair. Is the system fair? No, but it is what it is. Most who follow it, understand how it works and why it is what it is and accept it.

I see both sides of this, and this year the Frozen 4 is in Buffalo, 2 and a half hours from the Cornell campus, do you think that Cornell has a edge? Sure they do, doesn't mean they are going to win it though, it's all about getting hot and lucky at the right time.

[Castlerock]

Any of the four teams left have a legitimate shot at winning it all. Cornell sure looks tough but are they *really* that good? I think they are. New Hampshire is playing their best hockey now but the loss of Lanny Gare hurts. I don't get to see the western teams much but Minnesota might be better than last year.

My prediction:
Minnesota vs Michigan - > Minnesota (5-2)
New Hampshire vs Cornell -> New Hampshire (1-0 OT)
Minnesota vs New Hampshire -> New Hampshire (3-2)

[Cards4ever]

Originally posted by Castlerock
Any of the four teams left have a legitimate shot at winning it all. Cornell sure looks tough but are they *really* that good? I think they are. New Hampshire is playing their best hockey now but the loss of Lanny Gare hurts. I don't get to see the western teams much but Minnesota might be better than last year.

My prediction:
Minnesota vs Michigan - > Minnesota (5-2)
New Hampshire vs Cornell -> New Hampshire (1-0 OT)
Minnesota vs New Hampshire -> New Hampshire (3-2)

Castlerock, the only Cornell hockey I've seen this year is in the Regional, so I don't know. Some doubt the strength of their conference and that is why they have that good of a record. We shall see come Thursday. You are absolutely right about UNH losing Gare, he was one of their PK specialists too.

Minnesota doesn't have the top shelf players they had last year, but the depth of the team is much better. If it turns out to be UNH-Minnesota, wowza, it will be one hell of a up and down game, the ice may melt from all that speed!

Are you a UNH fan?

[Castlerock]

Yup, I am a UNH fan. What gave it away? :-)
I think the UNH-Cornell game is too close to call. Should be a great game.

Gare just does everything. Scoring/PP/PK and defense. Calendar can fill in (as well as can be expected) and they beat BU without him so we'll see.

I think Minnesota handles Michigan.

That sets up a UNH/Minnesota final. 2 teams that can skate! But Ayers stands on his head for UNH in a 3-2 final. At least that's what I'm hoping for.

[Cards4ever]

Originally posted by Castlerock
Yup, I am a UNH fan. What gave it away? :-)
I think the UNH-Cornell game is too close to call. Should be a great game.

Gare just does everything. Scoring/PP/PK and defense. Calendar can fill in (as well as can be expected) and they beat BU without him so we'll see.

I think Minnesota handles Michigan.

That sets up a UNH/Minnesota final. 2 teams that can skate! But Ayers stands on his head for UNH in a 3-2 final. At least that's what I'm hoping for.

I was just guessing from your prediction and your knowledge of Gare.

Did you get to see the series in the beginning of the year between UNH and Minnesota? UNH took a win and a tie, we'd like to improve on that ourselves! Either way, good luck, anything can happen, I just want to see some good hockey!

[Cards4ever]

National Semifinal Day!

Come on you hockey fans, watch these games, they are going to be good!

UNH-Cornell at Noon Eastern

Minnesota-Michigan at 6 Eastern

Party at my house, Go Gophers!

[ice4277]

Go Blue!

[Cards4ever]

UNH wins the first Semi 3-2! The Wildcats advance to the Championship game Saturday night!

Cornell fell behind 3-0 and just could never get it going, they did close the gap to 3-2 with a goal midway thru the 3rd, but, alas, too little, too late.

[Alan T]

UNH was scary in the games I saw them this year. Its not a huge suprise seeing them in the championship. I did not see any of the western teams so will be looking forward to seeing how they compare.