HS rivals work together to help Down Syndrome kid realize dream.....

Mizzou B-ball fan · 09-23-2009, 07:36 AM

Great to see these kind of stories. Video link in story.

Rivals cooperate on touchdown for player with Down syndrome - Kansas City Star

JPhillips · 09-23-2009, 07:58 AM

Yeah, this is the kind of thing where I have to give credit to outlets like ESPN for hyping those first couple of basketball stories. It's great to see this sort of thing spread around the country.

PilotMan · 09-23-2009, 08:40 AM

It's nice to see that. My biggest fear would be the kid on the defense who doesn't care and lines up and jacks the kid up, just to be a fuck-tard. Glad that didn't happed, but it will somewhere.

flere-imsaho · 09-23-2009, 10:00 AM

I think even a HS kid would realize that if he did that he'd be painting a big target on himself for future games.

Abe Sargent · 09-23-2009, 10:33 AM

That's absolute total bullshit. They made oit seem like a real play, but didn;t actually try to stop him, and now everybody is talking about how great each team is. Totally, totally, stupid, and an excellent example of how stupid our society has become that so many people think this was a good thing.

Subby · 09-23-2009, 10:33 AM

Down syndrome

Ronnie Dobbs2 · 09-23-2009, 10:35 AM

It's fucking ridiculous that this kid will get a memory to cherish for his entire life.

MJ4H · 09-23-2009, 10:43 AM

facepalm.jpg

M GO BLUE!!! · 09-23-2009, 10:52 AM

There is the argument to be made for both sides, but it still puts a smile on my face. It's like the kid dying of cancer that Charlie Weis ran a play for. Let's just hope the kid never looks for himself on the internet.

RainMaker · 09-23-2009, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Abe Sargent

That's absolute total bullshit. They made oit seem like a real play, but didn;t actually try to stop him, and now everybody is talking about how great each team is. Totally, totally, stupid, and an excellent example of how stupid our society has become that so many people think this was a good thing.

Totally stupid to give a kid with Downs Syndrome a lifetime memory in a meaningless high school football game that was well out of question. What a bunch of scumbags they are.

Subby · 09-23-2009, 11:21 AM

Down syndrome

Noop · 09-23-2009, 11:50 AM

This is a great story, I am happy for the kid.

Maple Leafs · 09-23-2009, 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Abe Sargent

That's absolute total bullshit. They made oit seem like a real play, but didn;t actually try to stop him, and now everybody is talking about how great each team is. Totally, totally, stupid, and an excellent example of how stupid our society has become that so many people think this was a good thing.

You're trying way too hard.

albionmoonlight · 09-23-2009, 12:12 PM

If Abe ever matures enough to become a Lieutenant or, even, a Captain, he will look back on this thread and realize how silly his comment was.

Schmidty · 09-23-2009, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Subby

Down syndrome

Touchdown Syndrome?

(Not making fun of Down Syndrome kids. Just making a bad joke)

Kodos · 09-23-2009, 01:14 PM

Yep. Abe is WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY out of line. The kid leads a life that I believe nobody on this board would trade their own life for, and these guys just wanted to give him a bit of happiness. I applaud what they did.

Subby · 09-23-2009, 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Schmidty

Touchdown Syndrome?

(Not making fun of Down Syndrome kids. Just making a bad joke)

Down syndrome

...and don't worry, Tongues Dogs guy...I know you were just funnin'

Karlifornia · 09-23-2009, 01:18 PM

Abe Sargent really needs to realize that Life Goes On

Schmidty · 09-23-2009, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Karlifornia

Abe Sargent really needs to realize that Life Goes On

Yeah, his comment really popped my Corky.

rowech · 09-23-2009, 02:55 PM

I saw this a couple days ago...it's too much. I appreciate what they did but man...couldn't they have done it from like the 10 yard line so it didn't look quite so bad?

Pumpy Tudors · 09-23-2009, 02:58 PM

scoring a touchdown ain't shit

should've let him play left guard and chop block somebody on a trap play

bullshit

spleen1015 · 09-23-2009, 02:58 PM

I think Abe is mad that no one did this for him.

Schmidty · 09-23-2009, 03:12 PM

Abe is about as popular as Kanye West right now.

Pumpy Tudors · 09-23-2009, 03:14 PM

It would be epic if Abe came back in here and said he was just kidding.

Schmidty · 09-23-2009, 03:20 PM

Did you see Abe's new thread? -

I Love Each of You Unless You Have Down Syndrome

Maple Leafs · 09-23-2009, 03:59 PM

Abe is mad because he had money on Maryville to cover the 39.5 points.

DanGarion · 09-23-2009, 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rowech

I saw this a couple days ago...it's too much. I appreciate what they did but man...couldn't they have done it from like the 10 yard line so it didn't look quite so bad?

Well if the game wasn't just about over I'm sure they could have done that. But considering that the score was 46-0 I'm pretty sure the losing team was no where near the 10 yard line during any point of the game...

DanGarion · 09-23-2009, 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Abe Sargent

That's absolute total bullshit. They made oit seem like a real play, but didn;t actually try to stop him, and now everybody is talking about how great each team is. Totally, totally, stupid, and an excellent example of how stupid our society has become that so many people think this was a good thing.

You probably think the same thing about the girls college softball game where she got hurt and the other team helped her around the bases... It's not always about beating your opponent into the ground. It's called compassion and sportsmanship.

Values.com | Billboard > Sportsmanship

(I don't condone the recent change to make children sports more about the fun and less about the score though, I feel competition is good).

I. J. Reilly · 09-23-2009, 04:32 PM

I for one would like to applaud Abe; there is a whole lot of awesome in this thread and it was only possible because of him.

MizzouRah · 09-23-2009, 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Schmidty

Did you see Abe's new thread? -

I Love Each of You Unless You Have Down Syndrome

hello soda all over my monitor.. good work!

Karlifornia · 09-23-2009, 05:29 PM

Let me break down what I saw on the touchdown run from a pure football perspective

Ok, first of all, the offense only had 10 men on the field. The play should have been blown dead, and never even happen. Second, Ziesel, the halfback that scored, is lined up much too far away from the quarterback. This caused the play to develop slowly, and would have resulted in, best case scenario, no gain. It would have, that is, if not for 23 seconds into the video, when the right tackle (#75 in white) commits an obvious hold. The play should have been brought back, and the offense should have been penalized 10 yards.

Then, Ziesel gets all the way to end zone, a result of absolutely catastrophic routes taken by the secondary. The DB's coach should have been fired, nay, shot in the head execution-style on the 50-yard line right then and there.

Then, when Ziesel crosses the goal line, he does an unnecessary high-step "jig". Unquestionably, that should resulted in an unsportsmanlike conduct penalty, which could have been assessed on the following kickoff, and Ziesel could have been ejected from the game. The showboating was classless, and the play was a tragedy of errors.

DanGarion · 09-23-2009, 05:35 PM

Is 10 men on an field a dead ball call?

Karlifornia · 09-23-2009, 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanGarion

Is 10 men on an field a dead ball call?

I don't remember, but that fact that this happened at all, with all those glaring errors, showcases why we lost the war.

Travis · 09-23-2009, 05:40 PM

I know that was in jest, but could you imagine the pandemonium that would have erupted at the game had the play been called back on a flag?

I'm assuming that the coach had a word with the officials after he had cleared this with the other team, but oh man, could that have ended poorly if a flag had flown.

Abe Sargent · 09-23-2009, 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kodos

Yep. Abe is WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY out of line. The kid leads a life that I believe nobody on this board would trade their own life for, and these guys just wanted to give him a bit of happiness. I applaud what they did.

By faking an actual play? That's stupid.

Abe Sargent · 09-23-2009, 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Schmidty

Did you see Abe's new thread? -

I Love Each of You Unless You Have Down Syndrome

This is about love, this is about respect. They didn;t respect him. They did a fake play, pretended to actually be doing something that they were not, tricked him, just to give him the feeling that he accomplsiehd when he didn;tactually did not accomplish. That's not respect. You don;t respect by lying and cheating.

I'm actually going to pull out my trump card on this one, too. Hello! You guys remember me? The one who's mother was in a wheelchair and died, and who will have the same disease in only about, maybe 5 or 6 years now? I would never want someone to do this to me after I get my disease - that's just stupid.

Schmidty · 09-23-2009, 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Abe Sargent

This is about love, this is about respect. They didn;t respect him. They did a fake play, pretended to actually be doing something that they were not, tricked him, just to give him the feeling that he accomplsiehd when he didn;tactually did not accomplish. That's not respect. You don;t respect by lying and cheating.

I'm actually going to pull out my trump card on this one, too. Hello! You guys remember me? The one who's mother was in a wheelchair and died, and who will have the same disease in only about, maybe 5 or 6 years now? I would never want someone to do this to me after I get my disease - that's just stupid.

Dude.

Lighten. Up.

Abe Sargent · 09-23-2009, 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanGarion

You probably think the same thing about the girls college softball game where she got hurt and the other team helped her around the bases... It's not always about beating your opponent into the ground. It's called compassion and sportsmanship.

Values.com | Billboard > Sportsmanship

(I don't condone the recent change to make children sports more about the fun and less about the score though, I feel competition is good).

Lying and cheating is neither compassion nor sportsmanship.

Abe Sargent · 09-23-2009, 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Schmidty

Dude.

Lighten. Up.

I'm a smiling, I just think you (the plural you, not singular) are missing a whole point. You cannot do something desrepctful, mean, and downright wrong to someone, and then say, look how we helped you, and how great we are.

MJ4H · 09-23-2009, 06:55 PM

Just wow.

Young Drachma · 09-23-2009, 06:58 PM

It wasn't even a varsity game. Just freshman football.

That kid looks like it made a huge difference to him. And I think it was a nice gesture and in the grand scheme of things, no big deal to complain about how it's part of some sort of watering down of something in society.

MJ4H · 09-23-2009, 06:59 PM

For the record, I'd give a body part for my son to get to experience something like that some day.

molson · 09-23-2009, 07:02 PM

I'm going to try to understand Abe Sargent's point for just a second.

I think there is a danger there, when you treat a kid with a disability as a kid with a disability. Some could very well resent it, that everyone's making a fuss over them and orchestrating this whole TD for them.

But the people that knew this kid knew that that wouldn't be the case here. So they did it. And the kid's happy. Who knows why he's happy. There's a variety of severity when it comes to Down Syndrome, but I'm sure he has an inkling that he isn't the greatest football player ever after this, and I don't think he's going to start demanding more playing time or something. He knows he was given a gift.

And he just got to share a little of the glory of a sport he seems to love - he got to run down the sideline with the crowd cheering, and run into the end zone. It must have been extremely exciting for him. He must have felt a huge amount of love from his teammates. He probably felt like one of the guys for a while. That made him happy, and it made both teams happy. And it made everyone who read the story happy, with one exception in this thread.

MJ4H · 09-23-2009, 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark Cloud

It wasn't even a varsity game. Just freshman football.

That kid looks like it made a huge difference to him. And I think it was a nice gesture and in the grand scheme of things, no big deal to complain about how it's part of some sort of watering down of something in society.

Exactly. It is much more the statement of support and love from his teammates and even the other team than it is that he "accomplished a touchdown." It's a thrill most kids in his situation would never get to even sniff and those guys gave it to him. YES they gave it to him. Everyone, even he, most likely, realizes that he couldn't do that on his own.

I cried my eyes out when I saw my son bowl a strike on Wii Sports with his mom holding his hand and basically doing the motion for him. He certainly enjoyed it and he laughed and smiled. I guess you can't imagine what these things mean to kids like that if you haven't experienced it first hand? I don't know.

Abe Sargent · 09-23-2009, 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark Cloud

It wasn't even a varsity game. Just freshman football.

That kid looks like it made a huge difference to him. And I think it was a nice gesture and in the grand scheme of things, no big deal to complain about how it's part of some sort of watering down of something in society.

And what happens if, in a year or two, the kid finds out it wasn;t real, everybody just pretended to try and chase and tackle him?

It's lika Santa Claus. There are numerous kids who feel hurt when they find out their parents lied to them about santa, or the tooth fairy,or whatever.

You cannot build a foundation on something wrong, and expect it to be right. You cannot start with a sin,and expect it to be bountiful.

This is why, for example, I am against the death penalty. At the end of the day, killing is wrong, flat out. You can't kill someone in order to make things better. You can't lie and deceive and create a fantasy in order to help someone out. You can;t steal, and expect that theft to do good things. You can't cheat on your wife, or your taxes, and think of it a good thing. These things are wrong, and nothing good and right can be built on them.

MJ4H · 09-23-2009, 07:04 PM

As a further note, if you read about the incident, his father said he expected the backlash from people complaining that they let him score and he just uses it as a further learning experience with his son. He already taught him that he can't do a touchdown dance when he gets into the end zone or it could be a penalty. In the video, after he crosses the goal line, he does a little hop of excitement as he crosses, then instead of dancing, which he did in practice, he just tosses the ball to the ref.

My guess is the kid is going to learn a lot from his dad.

MJ4H · 09-23-2009, 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Abe Sargent

And what happens if, in a year or two, the kid finds out it wasn;t real, everybody just pretended to try and chase and tackle him?

The kid already knows, see my last post.

Abe Sargent · 09-23-2009, 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MJ4H

The kid already knows, see my last post.

I didn't see in the article that he knows. Are you referring to your statement when you say he "most likely" knows? But what if he doesn't?

I had a girlfriend a long time ago who found out, while we were dating, that she was conceived before her parents got married, and they had never told her, and she had never done the math. Sure, it may have appeared obvious to you or me, after looking at the math, but she never realized, until she was in college, and then she found out. Do you know how betrayed she felt? To find out that every one is your life told you not to have sex before marriage and so forth, and then find out your mother was pregnant with you when you they were married?

Sure, he might know, and might not care. But what if he does? Is it worth it? I don;t think it ever is.

MJ4H · 09-23-2009, 07:09 PM

No, I read an article from another site that had an interview with his dad that said he is using that aspect as a learning experience with his son.

QuikSand · 09-23-2009, 07:17 PM

I see your point, Abe, and stated a bit less indignantly (with a reasonable acceptance of the intended good will of the act) I'd probably be inclined to agree with you.

09-23-2009, 07:58 AM	#2
JPhillips Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Newburgh, NY	Yeah, this is the kind of thing where I have to give credit to outlets like ESPN for hyping those first couple of basketball stories. It's great to see this sort of thing spread around the country. __________________ To love someone is to strive to accept that person exactly the way he or she is, right here and now.. - Mr. Rogers

09-23-2009, 08:40 AM	#3
PilotMan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Seven miles up	It's nice to see that. My biggest fear would be the kid on the defense who doesn't care and lines up and jacks the kid up, just to be a fuck-tard. Glad that didn't happed, but it will somewhere. __________________ He's just like if Snow White was competitive, horny, and capable of beating the shit out of anyone that called her Pops.

09-23-2009, 10:33 AM	#5
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	That's absolute total bullshit. They made oit seem like a real play, but didn;t actually try to stop him, and now everybody is talking about how great each team is. Totally, totally, stupid, and an excellent example of how stupid our society has become that so many people think this was a good thing. __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

09-23-2009, 10:33 AM	#6
Subby lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: sans pants	Down syndrome __________________ Superman was flying around and saw Wonder Woman getting a tan in the nude on her balcony. Superman said I going to hit that real fast. So he flys down toward Wonder Woman to hit it and their is a loud scream. The Invincible Man scream what just hit me in the ass!!!!! I do shit, I take pictures, I write about it: chrisshue.com

09-23-2009, 11:21 AM	#11
Subby lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: sans pants	Down syndrome __________________ Superman was flying around and saw Wonder Woman getting a tan in the nude on her balcony. Superman said I going to hit that real fast. So he flys down toward Wonder Woman to hit it and their is a loud scream. The Invincible Man scream what just hit me in the ass!!!!! I do shit, I take pictures, I write about it: chrisshue.com

09-23-2009, 10:00 AM	#4
flere-imsaho Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Chicagoland	I think even a HS kid would realize that if he did that he'd be painting a big target on himself for future games.

09-23-2009, 10:35 AM	#7
Ronnie Dobbs2 Pro Rookie Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Bahston Mass	It's fucking ridiculous that this kid will get a memory to cherish for his entire life. __________________ There's no I in Teamocil, at least not where you'd think

09-23-2009, 10:43 AM	#8
MJ4H Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hog Country	facepalm.jpg

09-23-2009, 10:52 AM	#9
M GO BLUE!!! Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2005	There is the argument to be made for both sides, but it still puts a smile on my face. It's like the kid dying of cancer that Charlie Weis ran a play for. Let's just hope the kid never looks for himself on the internet.

09-23-2009, 11:50 AM	#12
Noop Bonafide Seminole Fan Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Florida	This is a great story, I am happy for the kid. __________________ Living in an Oligarchy.

09-23-2009, 12:12 PM	#14
albionmoonlight Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: North Carolina	If Abe ever matures enough to become a Lieutenant or, even, a Captain, he will look back on this thread and realize how silly his comment was.

09-23-2009, 01:14 PM	#16
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	Yep. Abe is WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY out of line. The kid leads a life that I believe nobody on this board would trade their own life for, and these guys just wanted to give him a bit of happiness. I applaud what they did. __________________ Indiana Hoosiers Football - 2025-26 National Champs The FOFC Ladder History thread Last edited by Kodos : 09-23-2009 at 01:14 PM.

09-23-2009, 01:18 PM	#18
Karlifornia Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: San Jose, CA	Abe Sargent really needs to realize that Life Goes On __________________ Look into the mind of a crazy man (NSFW) http://www.whitepowerupdate.wordpress.com

09-23-2009, 02:55 PM	#20
rowech Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2006	I saw this a couple days ago...it's too much. I appreciate what they did but man...couldn't they have done it from like the 10 yard line so it didn't look quite so bad?

09-23-2009, 02:58 PM	#21
Pumpy Tudors Bounty Hunter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Pittsburgh, PA	scoring a touchdown ain't shit should've let him play left guard and chop block somebody on a trap play bullshit __________________ No, I am not Batman, and I will not repair your food processor.

09-23-2009, 02:58 PM	#22
spleen1015 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003	I think Abe is mad that no one did this for him. __________________ Why choose failure when success is an option?

09-23-2009, 03:12 PM	#23
Schmidty Coordinator Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Early, TX	Abe is about as popular as Kanye West right now. __________________ Just beat the devil out of it!!! - Bob Ross

09-23-2009, 03:14 PM	#24
Pumpy Tudors Bounty Hunter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Pittsburgh, PA	It would be epic if Abe came back in here and said he was just kidding. __________________ No, I am not Batman, and I will not repair your food processor.

09-23-2009, 03:20 PM	#25
Schmidty Coordinator Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Early, TX	Did you see Abe's new thread? - I Love Each of You Unless You Have Down Syndrome __________________ Just beat the devil out of it!!! - Bob Ross

09-23-2009, 03:59 PM	#26
Maple Leafs Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2002	Abe is mad because he had money on Maryville to cover the 39.5 points. __________________ Down Goes Brown: Toronto Maple Leafs Humor and Analysis

09-23-2009, 04:32 PM	#29
I. J. Reilly College Prospect Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: An Oregonian deep in the heart of Texas.	I for one would like to applaud Abe; there is a whole lot of awesome in this thread and it was only possible because of him.

09-23-2009, 05:29 PM	#31
Karlifornia Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: San Jose, CA	Let me break down what I saw on the touchdown run from a pure football perspective Ok, first of all, the offense only had 10 men on the field. The play should have been blown dead, and never even happen. Second, Ziesel, the halfback that scored, is lined up much too far away from the quarterback. This caused the play to develop slowly, and would have resulted in, best case scenario, no gain. It would have, that is, if not for 23 seconds into the video, when the right tackle (#75 in white) commits an obvious hold. The play should have been brought back, and the offense should have been penalized 10 yards. Then, Ziesel gets all the way to end zone, a result of absolutely catastrophic routes taken by the secondary. The DB's coach should have been fired, nay, shot in the head execution-style on the 50-yard line right then and there. Then, when Ziesel crosses the goal line, he does an unnecessary high-step "jig". Unquestionably, that should resulted in an unsportsmanlike conduct penalty, which could have been assessed on the following kickoff, and Ziesel could have been ejected from the game. The showboating was classless, and the play was a tragedy of errors. __________________ Look into the mind of a crazy man (NSFW) http://www.whitepowerupdate.wordpress.com Last edited by Karlifornia : 09-23-2009 at 06:18 PM.

09-23-2009, 05:35 PM	#32
DanGarion Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: PNW	Is 10 men on an field a dead ball call? __________________ Los Angeles Dodgers Check out the FOFC Groups on Facebook! and Reddit! DON'T REPORT ME BRO!

09-23-2009, 05:40 PM	#34
Travis Pro Rookie Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Canada eh	I know that was in jest, but could you imagine the pandemonium that would have erupted at the game had the play been called back on a flag? I'm assuming that the coach had a word with the officials after he had cleared this with the other team, but oh man, could that have ended poorly if a flag had flown. __________________ "I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it." - Rogers Hornsby

09-23-2009, 06:55 PM	#40
MJ4H Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hog Country	Just wow.

09-23-2009, 06:58 PM	#41
Young Drachma Dark Cloud Join Date: Apr 2001	It wasn't even a varsity game. Just freshman football. That kid looks like it made a huge difference to him. And I think it was a nice gesture and in the grand scheme of things, no big deal to complain about how it's part of some sort of watering down of something in society. __________________ Current dynasty: Playtesting chaos (Viperball 26) \| OOTP Mod: Managerial Strategy Files \| GM Excel Competitive Balance Tax/Revenue Sharing Calc \| FBCB Mods on Github

09-23-2009, 06:59 PM	#42
MJ4H Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hog Country	For the record, I'd give a body part for my son to get to experience something like that some day.

09-23-2009, 07:02 PM	#43
molson General Manager Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Mountains	I'm going to try to understand Abe Sargent's point for just a second. I think there is a danger there, when you treat a kid with a disability as a kid with a disability. Some could very well resent it, that everyone's making a fuss over them and orchestrating this whole TD for them. But the people that knew this kid knew that that wouldn't be the case here. So they did it. And the kid's happy. Who knows why he's happy. There's a variety of severity when it comes to Down Syndrome, but I'm sure he has an inkling that he isn't the greatest football player ever after this, and I don't think he's going to start demanding more playing time or something. He knows he was given a gift. And he just got to share a little of the glory of a sport he seems to love - he got to run down the sideline with the crowd cheering, and run into the end zone. It must have been extremely exciting for him. He must have felt a huge amount of love from his teammates. He probably felt like one of the guys for a while. That made him happy, and it made both teams happy. And it made everyone who read the story happy, with one exception in this thread. Last edited by molson : 09-23-2009 at 07:05 PM.

09-23-2009, 07:04 PM	#46
MJ4H Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hog Country	As a further note, if you read about the incident, his father said he expected the backlash from people complaining that they let him score and he just uses it as a further learning experience with his son. He already taught him that he can't do a touchdown dance when he gets into the end zone or it could be a penalty. In the video, after he crosses the goal line, he does a little hop of excitement as he crosses, then instead of dancing, which he did in practice, he just tosses the ball to the ref. My guess is the kid is going to learn a lot from his dad.

09-23-2009, 07:09 PM	#49
MJ4H Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hog Country	No, I read an article from another site that had an interview with his dad that said he is using that aspect as a learning experience with his son.

09-23-2009, 07:17 PM	#50
QuikSand lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Annapolis, Md	I see your point, Abe, and stated a bit less indignantly (with a reasonable acceptance of the intended good will of the act) I'd probably be inclined to agree with you.

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