DE to OLB

MrDNA · 09-29-2009, 06:24 PM

Anyone had any success with this? I know in football terms it works (on occassion), but in FOF terms I haven't heard it yet. I drafted this gentleman in the FOFL (openings available!). He's very undersized for a DE, but has equal experience (inexperience really) at his natural position and both OLB spots. I don't see why his existing bars would change too drastically, but his coverage ability is a noggin scratcher.

Thoughts? Experiences? Haikus?

abal1221 · 09-29-2009, 06:49 PM

I converted an undersized DE to OLB in a SP league awhile back. The position change netted a decent future estimate increase. He turned out to be a creeper too

gstelmack · 09-29-2009, 08:36 PM

I did this in WOOF with an undersized DE and he played pretty well. If the weight is right it can be a very good transition.

Jughead Spock · 09-29-2009, 08:38 PM

Hit the button and see what percentage of ratings hit he's gonna take and go from there.

Oh, uh, I mean,

Outside linebacker?
Before the move, push button.
Choose wisely from that.

Julio Riddols · 09-30-2009, 04:26 AM

Looks a lot more like a solid MLB rather than OLB. Strong as an ox, but likely wont have the coverage or PR technique after the switch to make a good OLB, IMO.

MIJB#19 · 09-30-2009, 09:58 AM

That guy looks like he can't rush the passer. With that run defense ability, I think you should want to keep him as a DL player. At OLB, you want either a great pass rusher (which this guy isn't), or an overall skilled player (which this guy isn't going to be).

AlexB · 09-30-2009, 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Julio Riddols

Looks a lot more like a solid MLB rather than OLB. Strong as an ox, but likely wont have the coverage or PR technique after the switch to make a good OLB, IMO.

+1

stevew · 09-30-2009, 03:17 PM

i dunno if he can bulk up, but I'd probably just do that. And see if he can maybe get fat enough to be a RDT

I wouldn't use him as OLB.

MIJB#19 · 09-30-2009, 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Julio Riddols

Looks a lot more like a solid MLB rather than OLB. Strong as an ox, but likely wont have the coverage or PR technique after the switch to make a good OLB, IMO.

Then what's the point to making him a MLB? ILB need the coverage skills too, unless you're forcing yourself to go into dime all game long.

Julio Riddols · 10-01-2009, 06:04 AM

In a 4-3, yeah, probably not worth changing him. I think hes a solid WILB in a 3-4, probably makes your goalline D pretty stiff. A player like that is so hard to place in a good spot, but will probably never see the field as a DE if his skills don't meet the requirement for the position per the GM. I think WILB in a 3-4, or goalline and base MLB in a 4-3 would be his best bet for being useful.

Who knows, maybe he has some coverage skill.. I don't subscribe to a lot of the theories people have about how to play defense or offense in this game.. I think thats why I see a lot of things differently. The above was basically how I would play the guy if I switched him.

stevew · 10-01-2009, 01:01 PM

I actually looked at him again. His best fit, in this game* is probably as a 3/4 RDE.

*Save your rants about how a 265lb guy could play 3/4 de in real life for another day.

09-29-2009, 08:36 PM	#3
gstelmack Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Cary, NC	I did this in WOOF with an undersized DE and he played pretty well. If the weight is right it can be a very good transition. __________________ -- Greg -- Author of various FOF utilities

09-30-2009, 04:26 AM	#5
Julio Riddols College Prospect Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Bryson Shitty, NC	Looks a lot more like a solid MLB rather than OLB. Strong as an ox, but likely wont have the coverage or PR technique after the switch to make a good OLB, IMO. __________________ Recklessly enthused, stubbornly amused. FUCK EA

09-30-2009, 09:58 AM	#6
MIJB#19 Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Maassluis, Zuid-Holland, Netherlands	That guy looks like he can't rush the passer. With that run defense ability, I think you should want to keep him as a DL player. At OLB, you want either a great pass rusher (which this guy isn't), or an overall skilled player (which this guy isn't going to be). __________________ * 2005 Golden Scribe winner for best FOF Dynasty about IHOF's Maassluis Merchantmen * Former GM of GEFL's Houston Oilers and WOOF's Curacao Cocktail

10-01-2009, 06:04 AM	#10
Julio Riddols College Prospect Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Bryson Shitty, NC	In a 4-3, yeah, probably not worth changing him. I think hes a solid WILB in a 3-4, probably makes your goalline D pretty stiff. A player like that is so hard to place in a good spot, but will probably never see the field as a DE if his skills don't meet the requirement for the position per the GM. I think WILB in a 3-4, or goalline and base MLB in a 4-3 would be his best bet for being useful. Who knows, maybe he has some coverage skill.. I don't subscribe to a lot of the theories people have about how to play defense or offense in this game.. I think thats why I see a lot of things differently. The above was basically how I would play the guy if I switched him. __________________ Recklessly enthused, stubbornly amused. FUCK EA

09-29-2009, 06:49 PM	#2
abal1221 n00b Join Date: Aug 2007	I converted an undersized DE to OLB in a SP league awhile back. The position change netted a decent future estimate increase. He turned out to be a creeper too

09-29-2009, 08:38 PM	#4
Jughead Spock High School Varsity Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Lowcountry, SC	Hit the button and see what percentage of ratings hit he's gonna take and go from there. Oh, uh, I mean, Outside linebacker? Before the move, push button. Choose wisely from that.

09-30-2009, 03:17 PM	#8
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	i dunno if he can bulk up, but I'd probably just do that. And see if he can maybe get fat enough to be a RDT I wouldn't use him as OLB.

10-01-2009, 01:01 PM	#11
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	I actually looked at him again. His best fit, in this game* is probably as a 3/4 RDE. *Save your rants about how a 265lb guy could play 3/4 de in real life for another day.

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