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Head Coach
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Michigan
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USC secures commitment from 13 year old QB
.. Okay this is pretty insane. This is the second 13 year old Lane has had commit (Eric Berry's bro was the other at UT) and yes that sounds bad.
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Its absurd as it is in hoops .. but football now? Get the fuck out. |
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Head Coach
Join Date: Sep 2004
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Get the fuck out sums up my thoughts exactly.
I could go on a rant about this sort of thing, but the corruption of college athletics by this middle-school poaching in basketball (and now football apparently) is one of those topics that so infuriates me that I can't even begin to talk about it rationally and logically.
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Bonafide Seminole Fan
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Florida
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It's pretty pointless to offer kids who aren't in high school. The development of players typically occur during high school. It is now uncommon for the youth football stud to be a bench player because everyone else caught up to him.
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Join Date: Apr 2001
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Heh. Ridiculous, but funny.
In the sense that, Lane probably did this on purpose. But if he's training with Steve Clarkson a few times a year at age 13, it's clear that barring injury his family is going to invest the money to ensure he has access to the best training, etc., so...as far as gambles go... I bet this is just a way to ensure that if he is still coaching there at that time and this kid develops into anything close to a decent prospect, that USC is in the conversation and he'll remember this when that time comes around. "I was just a nobody back then and Coach Kiffin and USC believed in me." |
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Hall Of Famer
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Newburgh, NY
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That Kiffin guy is sure a winner.
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Pro Starter
Join Date: Sep 2005
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They make 'em younger & greener every year... (Coaches, that is.)
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Hall Of Famer
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Where Hip Hop lives
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Kid musta ripped off everything down to the skivvies on his official.
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Coordinator
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Sydney, Australia
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I don't know how scholarships work, but can he actually officially accept a scholarship offer at this stage? And if so, what if in like 2 years time the kid has an accident and can never walk again, does he still get a free ride into a college education?
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Join Date: Apr 2001
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No, a verbal commitment is just isn't binding at all. The Letter of Intent is what binds them. This is just a dog and pony show. |
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Head Coach
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Michigan
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Nothing is binding until he signs a letter of intent. He can't be given a written scholarship offer until Sept 1st of his Junior year of HS and even then those mean jack squat. It's just the fact someone is actually offering 13 year old's that is insane. |
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Grizzled Veteran
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: San Jose, CA
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When he takes his official visit, can he ride in Lane Kiffin's flying car, or will he have to take his own?
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Favored Bitch #1
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: homeless in NJ
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This kid is gonna use this to get mad tail. Once he hits puberty.
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Head Coach
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Whittier
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Lane Kiffin is a moron. I'm glad USC hired him to save a recruiting class
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Pro Starter
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Not Delaware - hurray!
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Heh - this is about 15 mins north of where I live, but I never heard of the kid. Apparently I'm not a very good recruiter.
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General Manager
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: The Satellite of Love
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Damn it!! That "time for the dog and pony show" movie quote is back in my head and I never found out what movie it's from!!! EDIT: Pirates of Silicon Valley! Finally remembered it... Last edited by sabotai : 02-05-2010 at 12:05 AM. |
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Coordinator
Join Date: Oct 2000
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Not sure how it would work with a 13 year old, but I think that Texas honored the scholarship of a player who committed after their junior year and then was either injured or diagnosed with a condition that left them unable to play football. A little different case being a player can't even be offered a scholarship officially until after their junior year, but I believe that in case of injury or health problem where of a player who'd been offered a scholarship and accepted it a major program would still honor the scholarship and allow them to be a part of the team. And if I remember correctly in these cases the team would be allowed an injury exemption and the scholarship wouldn't count against the teams limit. |
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Dark Cloud
Join Date: Apr 2001
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hehe sabotai.
I guess it's time to create this kid as a recruit for NCAA10 when it gets to that year and see if he really does end up at USC. Heh. |
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Hall Of Famer
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: New Jersey
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Not just to save this class. To get the #1 class every year. Recruiting is the lifeblood of any college football program and this staff has 3 of the best recruiters in college football on it already. |
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Death Herald
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas
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Interesting that EF27 commented only on the strong recruiting aspect, and completely ignored the ridiculousness of this particular situation.
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Hall Of Famer
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: New Jersey
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I was pressured for time this morning before leaving for work (haven't even seen my WOOF results yet.) I was just doing a few quick posts. About to see a patient, but I absolutely agree that it is ridiculous and meaningless to offer/accept a verbal scholarship from a 13 year old football player. Also, in regards to McKerney's point. USC has honored the scholarship of Juniors who they accepted for football scholarships and were later unable to play due to health complications.
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Pro Rookie
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Bahston Mass
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Coordinator
Join Date: Sep 2003
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USC can withdraw the offer any time right?
It's just pub.
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College Starter
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Norman, OK
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Is it possible that this is a made-up story? It would be the perfect publicity for the QB coach because USC cannot comment on prospective recruits and couldn't deny it. I doubt it's the case, but it would be pretty ingenius.
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Hall Of Famer
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: New Jersey
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Clarkson has a long history as a QB coach and has had a reputation with USC over the years. He was Barkley's QB coach as well when he was younger. I doubt this is made up, even though I wish it was.
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FOFC's Elected Representative
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: The stars at night; are big and bright
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No lie, George Sauer Jr. (stud receiver for the Jets who retired at 27 and 8 catches for 133 yds in the upset Super Bowl, which no one remembers)
was given a football scholarship to the University of Texas at BIRTH.
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Death Herald
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas
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Good stuff, I had almost forgotten about that. George Sauer, Sr. played for D.X. Bible at Nebraska in the 30s. Sauer decided to name his first born D.X. in honor of his coach. It was a girl, but still named Dana. When Sauer's second child was born, it was a boy. Bible, who was then coaching at Texas, sent a note offering the kid a scholarship. He ended up being a good enough football player that Darrell Royal eventually ended up honoring Bible's offer.
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College Benchwarmer
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Sterling Heights, Mi
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The important questions is.... Does this kid now get Reggie Bush's old house? Or does he actually have to wait to get to USC before they buy it for him.
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Coordinator
Join Date: Oct 2000
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Here is what I find the most amusing thing about the story I read on ESPN today:
Clarkson said Kiffin asked him his opinion of the recruit and Clarkson said, "You might call me crazy, but you've known me a long time, right? And when I said if there was going to be a Lebron James of football it'd be Jimmy Clausen that turned out to be a pretty good prediction. "And when I said Matt Barkley had the potential to be as good as Jimmy, he ended up winning Gatorade Player of the Year as a junior and starting at USC as a freshman, right? "Well, I've got a kid now who is better than all of them and he's in Delaware. You gotta take a look at him." OK, I know I'm not a fan of the Golden Domers, but I actually kind of like Clausen. I'm not sure I'd say calling Clausen the Lebron James of football would be a "pretty good prediction." The Clausen I know played three seasons and had his biggest honor be a 2nd team all america award from CBS sportsline. While he's one of the top ranked QB's out of the draft class, there is a very good chance he won't even be the first QB off the board on draft day. Clarkson is WAY off if he thinks Clausen to James is a "pretty good" comparison. |
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Coordinator
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: San Diego via Sausalito via San Jose via San Diego
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I hear the kid is already demanding, a future undetermined NFL team, to play him or trade him
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Head Coach
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Whittier
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This. Rick was getting a lot of national pub for his recruiting efforts. UCLA and USC split 18 recruits who sported offers from both schools. I'd like to see a new rule in which schools must honor scholarship offers to kids under the ages of 15. |
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Hall Of Famer
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Massachusetts
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I'd like to see a rule where they're forbidden to make such promises, and if someone comes out and claims that they did and does not have proof their kid is stripped of all future NCAA eligibility.
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College Benchwarmer
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Edmonton, AB
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Wait a second, is the kid a ginger?? If he is...LOOK OUT!!!
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Dark Cloud
Join Date: Apr 2001
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Man, he looks like he's walking on stilts. He's going to have to grow up and fill out in that body or else, some kid with no future during his freshman year is going to take him out. What's funnier about that video is that Steve Clarkson paid someone to make a quarterback song set to music. Geez.
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Hall Of Famer
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: New Jersey
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Agreed. I find the idea behind that song hilarious. As far as the kid, he does have a nice throwing motion and good mechanics from what they showed in the video. I still dislike the idea of offering at this age and find it pointless, but the rumor is that Slick Rick was also contacting him about an offer, so I don't dislike it as much as I did this morning.
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Dark Cloud
Join Date: Apr 2001
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The kid looks like a solid prospect for his age. I mean, he could be a HS QB in some places right now with those mechanics and would be a solid player, I'd imagine..even though I'm sure it's not lost on anyone that all of that footage was intrasquad play.
![]() If his dad is paying Steve Clarkson at 13, there's probably no doubt he'll be doing something for somebody unless heaven forbid an injury. Or a failed growth spurt or something. This certainly seems like stage parent-itis and he's just a prop in the whole deal. That's the sad part. I mean, Lane is encouraging it, but...surely if not him, someone else would be doing it if he's on their radar. Last edited by Young Drachma : 02-05-2010 at 05:49 PM. |
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College Starter
Join Date: Dec 2002
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Imagine how good this kid will be when he can reach the top of the dry erase board.
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Coordinator
Join Date: Oct 2000
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So you penalize the kid because his parents are asshats? ummm, no. Simple, simple rule here. If a coach talks to a kid or his parents about a scholarship under the age of 16, the kid is forbid from going to that school and anyplace the coach goes to after as well. |
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Head Coach
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Whittier
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LOL. I highly doubt that, but if true, Lane is getting desperate. |
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Death Herald
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas
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Really? Just because UCLA is rumored to be involved that somehow makes it a little bit more palatable?
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Hall Of Famer
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: New Jersey
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Somewhat yes. If you haven't noticed, they are my most disliked rival of the teams I root for. More so than the Cowboys or anyone else. I want to beat them in any way possible whenever possible. That being said, I wish there was a way for the NCAA to crack down on early contact before the age of 15 or 16. |
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College Benchwarmer
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Edmonton, AB
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So you penalize the kid because the coach is an asshat?? |
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Death Herald
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas
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Carl Jung would have a field day with you ![]()
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Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint |
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Coordinator
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: PNW
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Acutally it's a Fountains of Wayne song... 'All Kinds of Time'. |
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Hall Of Famer
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: New Jersey
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![]() FWIW, I realize how irrational the intensity of my dislike of UCLA is. |
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Coordinator
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: PNW
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Well he's already 6 feet tall, so he doesn't need much more growth vertically. |
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Quarterback
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: London, England
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Death Herald
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas
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Are you sure it wasn't Franz Ferdinand? ![]()
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Head Coach
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Whittier
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