What creates 10+ yard runs for RB's?

Lintyfresh85 · 02-19-2010, 12:12 PM

I've always wondered about this.

What rating is playing the biggest part in netting RB's 10+ yard runs.

My guess was always a combination of Hole Recognition, Elusiveness and Breakaway Speed but I'd love to hear what others thought. Especially from the vets that are in multiple leagues and have extensive testing.

Lintyfresh85 · 02-19-2010, 07:21 PM

Anyone?

Does a strong OL possibly play into the equation as well?

Dandelion · 02-19-2010, 08:37 PM

mostly it's... dice rolls.

... and - as a wild guess - all You mentioned, plus the defensive formation used. Always good to run against agg. pass def with 4 deep in the zone.

Jughead Spock · 02-19-2010, 09:11 PM

Not an expert, by any means, but I've had surprising luck with this guy -

Ed Suarez

Barely average, but great HR and Elusiveness. He's been getting 35-40 10+ every season. So just anecdotally, I'm under the impression that those are the primary causes, then OL, then Breakaway/Speed to the Outside. And of course, running to your strongest OL has to help.

Firefly · 02-19-2010, 10:27 PM

I think it's elusiveness

primelord · 02-20-2010, 02:46 AM

Ben knows the answer to this. He has done extensive study on it. He didn't post a thread on it, but I quite sure if you PM him he will be happy to share the data with him. If you happen to have his e-mail address you should e-mail him about it as well. You might want to try PMing him at WOOF, IHOF and FOFL as well.

He can be a bit tough to pin down sometimes so multiple PMs let him know you are serious and that you are asking for something important. Hope this helps.

Ben E Lou · 02-20-2010, 03:56 AM

Linty, I'm pretty sure that you're on the right track with those three ratings, but I don't know for sure. I do know for sure that Primelord is a poopy-head.

Dutch · 02-20-2010, 04:25 AM

I've had good success in getting high YPC from a 40/40 rated RB with 100 in Elusiveness and 62 in Breakaway Speed. Of course, that was under 6.2 and I ran probably 80% of my plays outside the guards.

I'm not getting a good gauge on 6.3a yet because all my RB's are doing pretty good no matter what their ratings are.

miked · 02-21-2010, 07:51 PM

I was under the impression it was mostly dependent on elusiveness.

miked · 02-22-2010, 03:37 PM

Not statistical in any way, but this guy has a 100 in elusiveness and 15% of his runs are 10+ this year. Of course, there are a lot of variables such as OL, game situations, etc, but I frequently find these types of players have some success.

http://www.younglifenorthdekalb.com/...playerid=13294

Subby · 02-22-2010, 03:38 PM

Elusiveness keeps guys from getting tackled behind the line of scrimmage.

02-20-2010, 02:46 AM	#6
primelord Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2000	Ben knows the answer to this. He has done extensive study on it. He didn't post a thread on it, but I quite sure if you PM him he will be happy to share the data with him. If you happen to have his e-mail address you should e-mail him about it as well. You might want to try PMing him at WOOF, IHOF and FOFL as well. He can be a bit tough to pin down sometimes so multiple PMs let him know you are serious and that you are asking for something important. Hope this helps. __________________ .

02-20-2010, 03:56 AM	#7
Ben E Lou Morgado's Favorite Forum Fascist Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Greensboro, NC	Linty, I'm pretty sure that you're on the right track with those three ratings, but I don't know for sure. I do know for sure that Primelord is a poopy-head. __________________ The media don't understand the kinds of problems and pressures 54 million come wit'!

02-21-2010, 07:51 PM	#9
miked College Starter Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: The Dirty	I was under the impression it was mostly dependent on elusiveness. __________________ Commish of the United Baseball League (OOTP 6.5)

02-22-2010, 03:37 PM	#10
miked College Starter Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: The Dirty	Not statistical in any way, but this guy has a 100 in elusiveness and 15% of his runs are 10+ this year. Of course, there are a lot of variables such as OL, game situations, etc, but I frequently find these types of players have some success. http://www.younglifenorthdekalb.com/...playerid=13294 __________________ Commish of the United Baseball League (OOTP 6.5)

02-22-2010, 03:38 PM	#11
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02-19-2010, 07:21 PM	#2
Lintyfresh85 n00b Join Date: Oct 2007	Anyone? Does a strong OL possibly play into the equation as well?

02-19-2010, 08:37 PM	#3
Dandelion Mascot Join Date: Jul 2009	mostly it's... dice rolls. ... and - as a wild guess - all You mentioned, plus the defensive formation used. Always good to run against agg. pass def with 4 deep in the zone.

02-19-2010, 09:11 PM	#4
Jughead Spock High School Varsity Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Lowcountry, SC	Not an expert, by any means, but I've had surprising luck with this guy - Ed Suarez Barely average, but great HR and Elusiveness. He's been getting 35-40 10+ every season. So just anecdotally, I'm under the impression that those are the primary causes, then OL, then Breakaway/Speed to the Outside. And of course, running to your strongest OL has to help.

02-19-2010, 10:27 PM	#5
Firefly High School Varsity Join Date: Dec 2007	I think it's elusiveness

02-20-2010, 04:25 AM	#8
Dutch "Dutch" Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Tampa, FL	I've had good success in getting high YPC from a 40/40 rated RB with 100 in Elusiveness and 62 in Breakaway Speed. Of course, that was under 6.2 and I ran probably 80% of my plays outside the guards. I'm not getting a good gauge on 6.3a yet because all my RB's are doing pretty good no matter what their ratings are.

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