2010 Ryder Cup

Big Fo · 10-01-2010, 01:40 AM

It's about to start, one of my favorite events in golf. The US team is a big underdog but we'll see what happens.

I don't have to worry about work in the morning but this still isn't the greatest viewing time. I might be able to stick it out for the entire morning session.

Pairings for the morning fourball session:

Match 1: Phil Mickelson-Dustin Johnson vs. Lee Westwood-Martin Kaymer

Match 2: Stewart Cink-Matt Kuchar vs. Rory McIlroy-Graeme McDowell.

Match 3: Steve Stricker-Tiger Woods vs. Ian Poulter-Ross Fisher.

Match 4: Bubba Watson-Jeff Overton vs. Luke Donald-Padraig Harrington

bhlloy · 10-01-2010, 01:45 AM

Lovely Welsh weather as usual this morning, really going to be interesting to see if they can get it done by Sunday or if they need the extra day on Monday to finish up. Saturday should be nice, but other than that it's going to be wet, windy and cold. Really makes me miss home watching the rain go sideways on TV

I think the US media has made the US team much bigger underdogs than they really are. I can't seperate these two teams in terms of quality - Europe probably is coming into the tournament in better form for the year but the US has way more raw talent IMO. Interesting move by Pavin putting the two rookies in the final morning matchup, if things don't go the US way there will be an unbelievable amount of pressure on them.

Big Fo · 10-01-2010, 02:00 AM

The online bookies have Europe as big favorites, it isn't just the US media.

I'd love a 2-2 split in the opening session considering what normally happens.

B & B · 10-01-2010, 02:15 AM

Yes, Im up watching this.

Its pouring rain, buckets.

Yes, Im betting on this. Of course Im backing the Europeans.
Im American, but so is gambling and making money.

Big Fo · 10-02-2010, 04:46 AM

Good start for the US team, up 2.5 to 1.5 after the first session.

Young Drachma · 10-02-2010, 05:48 AM

Good to see Tiger and Sticker draw blood in their match.

Also, did Lisa Pavin design that Team USA gear herself? It looks gaudy and awful.

NorvTurnerOverdrive · 10-02-2010, 12:28 PM

just tuned in. u.s. is up 6-4 but is losing in all 6 of the matches and have lost 14 consecutive holes. yeesh.

tiger's flailing away per usual.

mauchow · 10-02-2010, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by NorvTurnerOverdrive

just tuned in. u.s. is up 6-4 but is losing in all 6 of the matches and have lost 14 consecutive holes. yeesh.

tiger's flailing away per usual.

Stricker did no favors on a lot of shots, too.. Not all on Tiger by any stretch.

They were really clicking earlier today, Tiger consistently setting him up on irons and Stricker just sinking putts. For this round it eemed like it was the other way around and is not working so well.

Big Fo · 10-03-2010, 11:52 AM

Can't hit wedge shots, can't make putts, can't even get putts to the fucking hole, an absolutely pathetic and embarrassing performance.

mauchow · 10-03-2010, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Fo

Can't hit wedge shots, can't make putts, can't even get putts to the fucking hole, an absolutely pathetic and embarrassing performance.

I'm not sure I saw a three putt in this session for the Europeans that actually mattered. That's how good they were putting, nearly everything was being conceded. There will need to be some HUGE, HUGE rounds from the Americans to have any chance tomorrow.

Oh, and BIG TIME SUCKAGE for the last day to be played tomorrow.

Big Fo · 10-03-2010, 12:19 PM

There weren't many three-putt greens but there were plenty of makeable putts that would have either won or halved holes. And even on some of the ones that were difficult, at least get it to the hole (especially in cases where they were putting for birdie/par and their partner was already assured of a par/bogey).

Thomkal · 10-03-2010, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by mauboy1

I'm not sure I saw a three putt in this session for the Europeans that actually mattered. That's how good they were putting, nearly everything was being conceded. There will need to be some HUGE, HUGE rounds from the Americans to have any chance tomorrow.

Oh, and BIG TIME SUCKAGE for the last day to be played tomorrow.

Even bigger potential suckage if the final round is not over by tomorrow-the remaining matches on the course will be halved and the Cup will be over.

Thomkal · 10-03-2010, 01:05 PM

Have they announced the pairings for the final round yet? I wasn't watching it near the end, so wondered if they announced it.

AlexB · 10-03-2010, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Thomkal

Even bigger potential suckage if the final round is not over by tomorrow-the remaining matches on the course will be halved and the Cup will be over.

Didn't realise that.... Starts rain dance

Young Drachma · 10-03-2010, 02:00 PM

Yeah the FedEx cup suckage is responsible for pushing this thing back weeks. Hopefully they'll pick better locales as a result.

AlexB · 10-03-2010, 02:10 PM

Wouldn't have mattered where it was this weekend - raining everywhere! In 4 years time it's in Scotland, which will likely be the same.

Ryan S · 10-03-2010, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Jari Rantanen's Shorts

Wouldn't have mattered where it was this weekend - raining everywhere! In 4 years time it's in Scotland, which will likely be the same.

Even if they scheduled the Ryder Cup in the middle of the summer they could not guarantee dry weather in Scotland.

MartinD · 10-03-2010, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Jari Rantanen's Shorts

Wouldn't have mattered where it was this weekend - raining everywhere! In 4 years time it's in Scotland, which will likely be the same.

Choosing to play an event like this on an inland course at this time of year runs the risk of getting more rain than the course can handle, as has happened at Celtic Manor this weekend. That isn't helped by the location of the course - if you have a golf course at the bottom of a valley, there isn't anywhere for the water to go... Unfortunately, the course at Gleneagles that's been selected for the 2014 Ryder Cup is very similar (in that it's an inland course that doesn't drain all that well in an area that gets its fair share of rain) - it seems strange for the powers that be to go chasing money by choosing an inland parkland-type course when you think about all of the top-quality links courses that are available in the UK (where the sandy soil means that drainage is much better, so there's much less chance of an interruption in play because the course is unplayable).

mauchow · 10-03-2010, 07:28 PM

Interesting lineup. Woods and Mickleson are no where to be found in the top seven matches, which could possibly already decide the Cup...

http://www.rydercup.com/2010/usa/scoring/round5.cfm

Thomkal · 10-03-2010, 08:43 PM

Well given that Mickleson hasn't won a point yet, along with my poor guy Dustin Johnson, I'm not surprised he's not in the top 7. Woods hasn't been that great individually, but did at least win a couple matches with Stricker.

And just to put the dagger into Dustin a little deeper, who does he get in his match?-Kaymer,the guy who beat him for the PGA championship when he had that is/isn't it a bunker fiasco. Will feel so bad for him if he can't even get a half point out of this. His personality just isnt really suited for the Ryder Cup-he just isn't the rah-rah or over the top emotional I think you need to be for the Ryder Cup

Thomkal · 10-04-2010, 05:37 AM

Single matches going on and so far not looking good for the US.

For a while the only red score on the board was believe it or not Dustin Johnson. That was because Martin Kaymer was playing poorly because Dustin is still missing putts. Few more Americans ahead now including Phil Mickleson who has finally shown up to play making a 50 ft or so putt for birdie, and has won the next two holes now too. Woods is 1 down to one of the Molinari brothers, was 2 down.

Thomkal · 10-04-2010, 05:42 AM

There are no all square matches right now which is kind of odd. Europe leads 8-4.

Thomkal · 10-04-2010, 06:39 AM

Dustin Johnson was 2 up through 11 without making birdie, and had just 5 birdies for the event. He has now birdied the next three in a row to go 5 up. Nice of you to show up finally Dustin. Too little too late it seems as Europe has leads of 2 UP or more in the 7 matches they currently lead in

mauchow · 10-04-2010, 06:44 AM

Cink just choked away a hole on a 3 ft birdie putt that would keep him 1-up. Instead now McIlroy will probably take that match and that would probably SEAL it.

Thomkal · 10-04-2010, 06:49 AM

And Dustin claims the first match for the US 6&4. Steve Stricker surprisingly beats Lee Westwood as well, so 2 wins so far for the US, none for Europe.

mauchow · 10-04-2010, 06:50 AM

Man, the outlook could be a WHOLE LOT different if Cink could have holed that 3 footer. If he can still win, that would be great, but it would be a heckuva lot better if he just made that stupid putt. At worst he can halve out the last two to keep the US in it.

Furyk also missed a 3 1/2 footer that he took way too much time on. Now he's two down with 3 to play instead of 1 down. And Donald just nailed a big putt to keep it 2 down for Furyk. Dang.

mauchow · 10-04-2010, 06:53 AM

Poulter is playing out of his mind! WoW!

Thomkal · 10-04-2010, 06:54 AM

Woods finally up in his match now.

Thomkal · 10-04-2010, 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by mauboy1

Poulter is playing out of his mind! WoW!

Yeah he and Donald and McDowell have been crazy good

mauchow · 10-04-2010, 06:58 AM

Cink with the huge break on the 17th that could get him 1 up.

Thomkal · 10-04-2010, 07:00 AM

yep that was a pretty sweet break, unless you are rooting for Europe of course

Thomkal · 10-04-2010, 07:02 AM

ugh and Cink chokes again

Thomkal · 10-04-2010, 07:02 AM

Europe gets their first win with Poulter dominating Kucher

Big Fo · 10-04-2010, 07:04 AM

Really need a full point from the Cink - McIlroy match, those two missed putts could be huge. Maybe he can win the 18th.

Thomkal · 10-04-2010, 07:14 AM

it'll be pretty big for the US if Furyk can win the last hole and halve with Donald.

Thomkal · 10-04-2010, 07:18 AM

oh man McElroy can't get it out of the bunker on 18

Thomkal · 10-04-2010, 07:22 AM

Cink really should have won that match, too bad

Thomkal · 10-04-2010, 07:23 AM

And Woods just hit in the hole from the fairway to go 3 UP.

Thomkal · 10-04-2010, 07:25 AM

wow Furyk's really got win the last hole now or that's likely the Cup

mauchow · 10-04-2010, 07:26 AM

Watson and Fowler need to make a come back... And if Furyk wins hole on 18th, that'd be great.

Edit: was behind on my video, furyk now needs to hole it out... not gonna happen.

Thomkal · 10-04-2010, 07:27 AM

and Furyk hits it in the same bunker McElroy did.

mauchow · 10-04-2010, 07:31 AM

Well, you figure Watson is going to have an advantage on the 15th hole.. so, if he can find a way to win a few holes... *shrug*

edit: and as we speak, jiminez's got a birdie putt to take another hole and that would nearly wrap that match up..

Thomkal · 10-04-2010, 07:36 AM

Looks like its down to Mahan coming back against McDowell and the rest of our leads staying there if the US is going to win.

mauchow · 10-04-2010, 07:37 AM

Not sure why Tiger got matched up with the worse of the two Molinari brothers. That could be the difference in this Cup.

Thomkal · 10-04-2010, 07:44 AM

It was a blind draw wasn't it? Tiger just birdied to go 4 up. all four US leads look pretty comfortable now that Overton has just gone 2 UP.

One thing that would make the Ryder Cup more fun would be to either get rid of the blind draw so we could have seen a Tiger/McElroy match today which both clearly wanted, or to let the fans get into it a bit and let them vote for one matchup they want to see in each round, or even for just one singles match. I mean they are playing for their country or continent right? Why not let us be represented then in a little way.

mauchow · 10-04-2010, 07:49 AM

My goodness, good putt Watson.. if he drains that he would be in a decent position to come back, but not to be.

mauchow · 10-04-2010, 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Thomkal

It was a blind draw wasn't it? Tiger just birdied to go 4 up. all four US leads look pretty comfortable now that Overton has just gone 2 UP.

One thing that would make the Ryder Cup more fun would be to either get rid of the blind draw so we could have seen a Tiger/McElroy match today which both clearly wanted, or to let the fans get into it a bit and let them vote for one matchup they want to see in each round, or even for just one singles match. I mean they are playing for their country or continent right? Why not let us be represented then in a little way.

Yeah, I always forget the blind draw. I always imagine the two coaches picking a player to go against the player the other coach chose to put up.

mauchow · 10-04-2010, 07:52 AM

Mahan may have just cost any chance that he had to come back

Thomkal · 10-04-2010, 09:14 AM

well when the day began and then again went I went away for breakfast, I felt for sure that this Ryder Cup would not come down to the final match to decide it. I'd like to apologize to Rickie Fowler for all the mean things I said about him, especially after the mistake he made the other day when he dropped the wrong ball. Man what guts to come back from 4 down and make that putt on 18.

Thomkal · 10-04-2010, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by mauboy1

Yeah, I always forget the blind draw. I always imagine the two coaches picking a player to go against the player the other coach chose to put up.

They do that in the President's Cup which is why you might have thought they did that here too

10-01-2010, 02:15 AM	#4
B & B College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: A sports era long ago when everything didnt require a Nike logo	Yes, Im up watching this. Its pouring rain, buckets. Yes, Im betting on this. Of course Im backing the Europeans. Im American, but so is gambling and making money. __________________ I think that Rosen will be the best QB in the class. -albionmoonlight

10-02-2010, 05:48 AM	#6
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10-03-2010, 02:10 PM	#16
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10-03-2010, 07:28 PM	#19
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	Interesting lineup. Woods and Mickleson are no where to be found in the top seven matches, which could possibly already decide the Cup... http://www.rydercup.com/2010/usa/scoring/round5.cfm Last edited by mauchow : 10-03-2010 at 07:28 PM.

10-04-2010, 06:50 AM	#26
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	Man, the outlook could be a WHOLE LOT different if Cink could have holed that 3 footer. If he can still win, that would be great, but it would be a heckuva lot better if he just made that stupid putt. At worst he can halve out the last two to keep the US in it. Furyk also missed a 3 1/2 footer that he took way too much time on. Now he's two down with 3 to play instead of 1 down. And Donald just nailed a big putt to keep it 2 down for Furyk. Dang. Last edited by mauchow : 10-04-2010 at 06:52 AM.

10-01-2010, 01:45 AM	#2
bhlloy Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2003	Lovely Welsh weather as usual this morning, really going to be interesting to see if they can get it done by Sunday or if they need the extra day on Monday to finish up. Saturday should be nice, but other than that it's going to be wet, windy and cold. Really makes me miss home watching the rain go sideways on TV I think the US media has made the US team much bigger underdogs than they really are. I can't seperate these two teams in terms of quality - Europe probably is coming into the tournament in better form for the year but the US has way more raw talent IMO. Interesting move by Pavin putting the two rookies in the final morning matchup, if things don't go the US way there will be an unbelievable amount of pressure on them.

10-01-2010, 02:00 AM	#3
Big Fo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2005	The online bookies have Europe as big favorites, it isn't just the US media. I'd love a 2-2 split in the opening session considering what normally happens.

10-02-2010, 04:46 AM	#5
Big Fo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2005	Good start for the US team, up 2.5 to 1.5 after the first session.

10-02-2010, 12:28 PM	#7
NorvTurnerOverdrive College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2008	just tuned in. u.s. is up 6-4 but is losing in all 6 of the matches and have lost 14 consecutive holes. yeesh. tiger's flailing away per usual.

10-03-2010, 11:52 AM	#9
Big Fo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2005	Can't hit wedge shots, can't make putts, can't even get putts to the fucking hole, an absolutely pathetic and embarrassing performance.

10-03-2010, 12:19 PM	#11
Big Fo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2005	There weren't many three-putt greens but there were plenty of makeable putts that would have either won or halved holes. And even on some of the ones that were difficult, at least get it to the hole (especially in cases where they were putting for birdie/par and their partner was already assured of a par/bogey).

10-03-2010, 01:05 PM	#13
Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA	Have they announced the pairings for the final round yet? I wasn't watching it near the end, so wondered if they announced it.

10-03-2010, 02:00 PM	#15
Young Drachma Dark Cloud Join Date: Apr 2001	Yeah the FedEx cup suckage is responsible for pushing this thing back weeks. Hopefully they'll pick better locales as a result.

10-03-2010, 08:43 PM	#20
Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA	Well given that Mickleson hasn't won a point yet, along with my poor guy Dustin Johnson, I'm not surprised he's not in the top 7. Woods hasn't been that great individually, but did at least win a couple matches with Stricker. And just to put the dagger into Dustin a little deeper, who does he get in his match?-Kaymer,the guy who beat him for the PGA championship when he had that is/isn't it a bunker fiasco. Will feel so bad for him if he can't even get a half point out of this. His personality just isnt really suited for the Ryder Cup-he just isn't the rah-rah or over the top emotional I think you need to be for the Ryder Cup

10-04-2010, 05:37 AM	#21
Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA	Single matches going on and so far not looking good for the US. For a while the only red score on the board was believe it or not Dustin Johnson. That was because Martin Kaymer was playing poorly because Dustin is still missing putts. Few more Americans ahead now including Phil Mickleson who has finally shown up to play making a 50 ft or so putt for birdie, and has won the next two holes now too. Woods is 1 down to one of the Molinari brothers, was 2 down.

10-04-2010, 05:42 AM	#22
Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA	There are no all square matches right now which is kind of odd. Europe leads 8-4.

10-04-2010, 06:39 AM	#23
Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA	Dustin Johnson was 2 up through 11 without making birdie, and had just 5 birdies for the event. He has now birdied the next three in a row to go 5 up. Nice of you to show up finally Dustin. Too little too late it seems as Europe has leads of 2 UP or more in the 7 matches they currently lead in

10-04-2010, 06:44 AM	#24
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	Cink just choked away a hole on a 3 ft birdie putt that would keep him 1-up. Instead now McIlroy will probably take that match and that would probably SEAL it.

10-04-2010, 06:49 AM	#25
Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA	And Dustin claims the first match for the US 6&4. Steve Stricker surprisingly beats Lee Westwood as well, so 2 wins so far for the US, none for Europe.

10-04-2010, 06:53 AM	#27
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	Poulter is playing out of his mind! WoW!

10-04-2010, 06:54 AM	#28
Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA	Woods finally up in his match now.

10-04-2010, 06:58 AM	#30
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	Cink with the huge break on the 17th that could get him 1 up.

10-04-2010, 07:00 AM	#31
Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA	yep that was a pretty sweet break, unless you are rooting for Europe of course

10-04-2010, 07:02 AM	#32
Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA	ugh and Cink chokes again

10-04-2010, 07:04 AM	#34
Big Fo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2005	Really need a full point from the Cink - McIlroy match, those two missed putts could be huge. Maybe he can win the 18th.

10-04-2010, 07:14 AM	#35
Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA	it'll be pretty big for the US if Furyk can win the last hole and halve with Donald.

10-04-2010, 07:18 AM	#36
Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA	oh man McElroy can't get it out of the bunker on 18

10-04-2010, 07:22 AM	#37
Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA	Cink really should have won that match, too bad

10-04-2010, 07:23 AM	#38
Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA	And Woods just hit in the hole from the fairway to go 3 UP.

10-04-2010, 07:25 AM	#39
Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA	wow Furyk's really got win the last hole now or that's likely the Cup

10-04-2010, 07:26 AM	#40
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	Watson and Fowler need to make a come back... And if Furyk wins hole on 18th, that'd be great. Edit: was behind on my video, furyk now needs to hole it out... not gonna happen. Last edited by mauchow : 10-04-2010 at 07:27 AM.

10-04-2010, 07:27 AM	#41
Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA	and Furyk hits it in the same bunker McElroy did.

10-04-2010, 07:31 AM	#42
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	Well, you figure Watson is going to have an advantage on the 15th hole.. so, if he can find a way to win a few holes... shrug edit: and as we speak, jiminez's got a birdie putt to take another hole and that would nearly wrap that match up.. Last edited by mauchow : 10-04-2010 at 07:38 AM.

10-04-2010, 07:36 AM	#43
Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA	Looks like its down to Mahan coming back against McDowell and the rest of our leads staying there if the US is going to win.

10-04-2010, 07:37 AM	#44
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	Not sure why Tiger got matched up with the worse of the two Molinari brothers. That could be the difference in this Cup. Last edited by mauchow : 10-04-2010 at 07:42 AM.