Signing players during playoff weeks for non-playoff teams

aston217 · 02-15-2011, 12:24 AM

This might be old news to many of you, but I just recently started to wonder about this, tested in in SP, and it seems: non-playoff teams are not bound by the 53-man roster limit after the regular season ends. (Could be true for bye weeks too in general, haven't explored that though)

Anyone with experience doing this in MP leagues know if it's good? Because if so, I'm tempted to target some guys I may be interested in now rather than wait til actual FA, because for cohesion purposes, if I'm able to resign (which I would be, for under year 3 players) them in the offseason, they'll have a whole year up on other 'offseason' acquisitions.

Probably doesn't make a big difference, but if you have the cap space: why not?

MalcPow · 02-15-2011, 01:06 AM

Some leagues have rules against it. Some don't. But yeah, there's obviously some small advantage for cohesion or rights control purposes to go sign a bunch of scrap heap guys who will be RFAs to one year deals after you're out of it.

Don't be surprised if you piss off a fair portion of the people paying attention in your MP leagues by doing this. If you're particularly diligent, you might even get a rule named after you.

aston217 · 02-15-2011, 01:08 AM

OK, fair enough. I was just surprised that the loophole seemed to exist and wondered if maybe in an MP league the CPU would drop players for you.

Seems like there /ought/ to be a rule against it in every league, so I'll just steer clear of it.

Alf · 02-15-2011, 03:20 AM

In at least two MP leageus I play in, teams eliminated from the playoffs can't sign guys from FA or cut any of their players except the final Bowl stage.

Ben E Lou · 02-15-2011, 04:53 AM

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Originally Posted by aston217

This might be old news to many of you, but I just recently started to wonder about this, tested in in SP, and it seems: non-playoff teams are not bound by the 53-man roster limit after the regular season ends. (Could be true for bye weeks too in general, haven't explored that though)

Here's how it works: FOF only checks for a legal roster immediately before a game involving your team is simmed. If it's bye week, or after your team is eliminated, or preseason week 1 and you're not playing, there are no FOF repercussions of being illegal.

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Anyone with experience doing this in MP leagues know if it's good? Because if so, I'm tempted to target some guys I may be interested in now rather than wait til actual FA, because for cohesion purposes, if I'm able to resign (which I would be, for under year 3 players) them in the offseason, they'll have a whole year up on other 'offseason' acquisitions.

Don't forget that or players over three years there's a loyalty boost as well. This can be meaningful in leagues where cap space is tight and therefore offers are closer in financial value.

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Probably doesn't make a big difference, but if you have the cap space: why not?

If it's legal, there's no downside. A couple of guys who usually do pretty well in FOF MP had over 80 players under contract by the time the latter part of the FOFL postseason was finished a few days ago.

imdashep · 02-15-2011, 04:58 AM

My question is how the heck are your FA pools that deep? Most of the leagues I've played in the guys available at that time would have no chance of making my roster

Ben E Lou · 02-15-2011, 05:13 AM

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Originally Posted by imdashep

My question is how the heck are your FA pools that deep? Most of the leagues I've played in the guys available at that time would have no chance of making my roster

Well, there are 32 players worthy of being the 54th man on someone's roster when regular season week 1 is simmed. Unless you have the best team in the league, odds are fairly high that one of those guys is good enough to make your team next year after retirements.

imdashep · 02-17-2011, 05:38 PM

Or that my team is better by more than one player than other teams in the league.

Logic success.

MIJB#19 · 02-18-2011, 11:17 AM

Really, there's a big gain here if you end up hiring a bunch of 1st through 3rd year players at the minimum salary. There's no cap hit (or a small one) and you'll have the restricted FA honors in the next off-season. Add in the additional season of cohesion and you'll have low-risk high-reward potential.

imdashep · 02-19-2011, 07:55 AM

Yah, I suppose for going with the younger guys that makes sense. good call

02-15-2011, 01:08 AM	#3
aston217 College Prospect Join Date: Sep 2010	OK, fair enough. I was just surprised that the loophole seemed to exist and wondered if maybe in an MP league the CPU would drop players for you. Seems like there /ought/ to be a rule against it in every league, so I'll just steer clear of it. __________________ OSFL (join us!) CFL Float likeabutterflysting likeabee.

02-15-2011, 03:20 AM	#4
Alf Pro Starter Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Rennes, France	In at least two MP leageus I play in, teams eliminated from the playoffs can't sign guys from FA or cut any of their players except the final Bowl stage. __________________ FOFL - GML - IHOF - FranceStats Last edited by Alf : 02-15-2011 at 03:20 AM.

02-18-2011, 11:17 AM	#9
MIJB#19 Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Maassluis, Zuid-Holland, Netherlands	Really, there's a big gain here if you end up hiring a bunch of 1st through 3rd year players at the minimum salary. There's no cap hit (or a small one) and you'll have the restricted FA honors in the next off-season. Add in the additional season of cohesion and you'll have low-risk high-reward potential. __________________ * 2005 Golden Scribe winner for best FOF Dynasty about IHOF's Maassluis Merchantmen * Former GM of GEFL's Houston Oilers and WOOF's Curacao Cocktail

02-15-2011, 01:06 AM	#2
MalcPow College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: San Diego	Some leagues have rules against it. Some don't. But yeah, there's obviously some small advantage for cohesion or rights control purposes to go sign a bunch of scrap heap guys who will be RFAs to one year deals after you're out of it. Don't be surprised if you piss off a fair portion of the people paying attention in your MP leagues by doing this. If you're particularly diligent, you might even get a rule named after you.

02-15-2011, 04:58 AM	#6
imdashep Mascot Join Date: Jan 2002	My question is how the heck are your FA pools that deep? Most of the leagues I've played in the guys available at that time would have no chance of making my roster

02-17-2011, 05:38 PM	#8
imdashep Mascot Join Date: Jan 2002	Or that my team is better by more than one player than other teams in the league. Logic success.

02-19-2011, 07:55 AM	#10
imdashep Mascot Join Date: Jan 2002	Yah, I suppose for going with the younger guys that makes sense. good call

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