Effect of contract on retirement

imdashep · 03-09-2011, 05:18 PM

Have Tom Brady in his 14th year, and he is in the last year of his contract. He wants an extension for one year that would pay him 14 mil next year, 7.5 mil of which would be bonus. I certainly want him to come back, but with the franchise tag for QBs at 7.3 mil, I'd obviously prefer to get him at half the price.

My question is, will an extension mean he is more likely to re-sign? Might be worth double to get him back for a year. Thanks!

jdavidbakr · 03-12-2011, 07:27 AM

I don't think it matters, I'm pretty sure that the decision whether to retire is weighted mostly by the player's age.

Could be wrong, though.

Ben E Lou · 03-12-2011, 07:28 AM

I think it is one of several factors (age, contract, playing time last year, maybe some others).

Firefly · 03-12-2011, 10:56 AM

I don't think he's more likely to return if you extend him. In FOF players often retire after signing an extension, even a couple of stages before (the bastards). They just take your money and run.

imdashep · 03-12-2011, 12:59 PM

Hmm, so is some small benefit worth risky 7 mil? Probably not.

Stokes36 · 03-27-2011, 06:34 AM

Is the signing bonus 'dead money' if the player retires?

strickzilla · 03-27-2011, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Stokes36

Is the signing bonus 'dead money' if the player retires?

yeup

stevew · 03-27-2011, 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Ben E Lou

I think it is one of several factors (age, contract, playing time last year, maybe some others).

I tend to think it matters as well. And if a player retires, only the dead money for the upcoming season counts I believe.

imdashep · 03-28-2011, 04:29 PM

Err, I don't think so, I think his bonus is accelerated just as if you released him.

QuikSand · 03-28-2011, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by stevew

I tend to think it matters as well. And if a player retires, only the dead money for the upcoming season counts I believe.

I cannot verify that this is actually implemented properly in game, but I am certain that Jim indicated he had done exactly this in one update/patch along the way somewhere.

Pyser · 03-31-2011, 12:26 AM

wait, really? that changes a lot...and really explains Ben's MP strategy a lot more. hmm....

Ben E Lou · 03-31-2011, 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Pyser

wait, really? that changes a lot...and really explains Ben's MP strategy a lot more. hmm....

I have no idea how this explains my MP strategy. Elucidate pls k thx.

Pyser · 04-04-2011, 05:08 PM

giving bigger bonuses to older players, and not being scared to reneg them every year. thinking of 12 year safeties like mcintyre in ccfl, for example

he'll end up getting all his money, but if he retired in year 1 of the deal, youd be off the hook for year 3

aston217 · 04-07-2011, 05:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Ben E Lou

I think it is one of several factors (age, contract, playing time last year, maybe some others).

I wonder if EXP isn't weighted more than age. I think I heard that somewhere before, but it would make more sense to me if age were the bigger factor. Then, these things don't always make sense.

imdashep · 04-10-2011, 01:20 PM

FYI, no contract, but decided to come back. Only one QB in the league older than him, so probably only back for a year, but fuck it, that's not a bad thing.

stevew · 04-11-2011, 07:44 AM

If he wants to hold out on the Franchise Tag, just sign him to like a 5 year deal with hits as small as possible the first two years.

imdashep · 04-17-2011, 11:01 AM

Going to wait until he takes a hit in TC, then re-sign him.

03-12-2011, 07:27 AM	#2
jdavidbakr High School Varsity Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Oklahoma	I don't think it matters, I'm pretty sure that the decision whether to retire is weighted mostly by the player's age. Could be wrong, though. __________________ ~jon MyFootballNow.com - Professional Football Management Simulator

03-12-2011, 07:28 AM	#3
Ben E Lou Morgado's Favorite Forum Fascist Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Greensboro, NC	I think it is one of several factors (age, contract, playing time last year, maybe some others). __________________ The media don't understand the kinds of problems and pressures 54 million come wit'!

03-27-2011, 06:34 AM	#6
Stokes36 n00b Join Date: May 2009	Is the signing bonus 'dead money' if the player retires? __________________ BLPF: New York Giants PFL: Buffalo Bills CyFL: Denver Broncos GEFL: New Orleans Saints RNFL: Seattle Seahawks

03-12-2011, 10:56 AM	#4
Firefly High School Varsity Join Date: Dec 2007	I don't think he's more likely to return if you extend him. In FOF players often retire after signing an extension, even a couple of stages before (the bastards). They just take your money and run.

03-12-2011, 12:59 PM	#5
imdashep Mascot Join Date: Jan 2002	Hmm, so is some small benefit worth risky 7 mil? Probably not.

03-28-2011, 04:29 PM	#9
imdashep Mascot Join Date: Jan 2002	Err, I don't think so, I think his bonus is accelerated just as if you released him.

03-31-2011, 12:26 AM	#11
Pyser Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Los Angeles	wait, really? that changes a lot...and really explains Ben's MP strategy a lot more. hmm....

04-04-2011, 05:08 PM	#13
Pyser Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Los Angeles	giving bigger bonuses to older players, and not being scared to reneg them every year. thinking of 12 year safeties like mcintyre in ccfl, for example he'll end up getting all his money, but if he retired in year 1 of the deal, youd be off the hook for year 3

04-10-2011, 01:20 PM	#15
imdashep Mascot Join Date: Jan 2002	FYI, no contract, but decided to come back. Only one QB in the league older than him, so probably only back for a year, but fuck it, that's not a bad thing.

04-11-2011, 07:44 AM	#16
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	If he wants to hold out on the Franchise Tag, just sign him to like a 5 year deal with hits as small as possible the first two years.

04-17-2011, 11:01 AM	#17
imdashep Mascot Join Date: Jan 2002	Going to wait until he takes a hit in TC, then re-sign him.

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