The FOFC Keeper League 2011

Lathum · 07-16-2011, 10:12 AM

With the lockout about to end I think we should get started on this season.

I sent a PM to everyone so hopefully people will be coming back. I think a week is a fair amount of time for conformation. Once we know who is coming back we can get new members if need be, my wife would like to be first alternate if possible.

I have asked TLK to take the lead again if he would be swo kind in getting a schedule set up, but if not I'll do it.

Hope to see everyone back.

Lathum · 07-16-2011, 10:12 AM

Returning

1. Lathum
2. Packerfanatic
3. Jonnyshaka
4. SI
5. Cubboyroy
6, Jag
7. Spleen
8. EF27
9. Samifan
10. tlk
11. Saldana
12. MikeVic

Alternates
1. MollyMurphy
2. CarmenBulldog
3. Danny

Lathum · 07-16-2011, 10:12 AM

PackerFanatic · 07-16-2011, 10:56 AM

Count me in.

johnnyshaka · 07-16-2011, 11:48 AM

Carman Bulldog · 07-16-2011, 11:51 AM

Throw me on the alternate list.

sterlingice · 07-16-2011, 12:05 PM

Sounds like a plan to me! I'm back if football is

SI

cubboyroy1826 · 07-16-2011, 12:51 PM

Positively coming back.

Danny · 07-16-2011, 01:50 PM

interested

JAG · 07-16-2011, 03:02 PM

Back again.

spleen1015 · 07-16-2011, 04:16 PM

This is the fleaflicker league, right?

EDIT - If so, I was a late addition last season. I'm still in if you guys will have me.

Lathum · 07-16-2011, 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spleen1015

This is the fleaflicker league, right?

EDIT - If so, I was a late addition last season. I'm still in if you guys will have me.

yes, I for got you took over for issidiqui. you are in

Eaglesfan27 · 07-16-2011, 09:44 PM

I'll be back.

samifan24 · 07-16-2011, 09:47 PM

I'm in again

TLK · 07-16-2011, 10:27 PM

I'll be back. I'm not getting excited about fantasy football until there is a settlement. I'll get something up as soon as a settlement is reached.

saldana · 07-17-2011, 11:16 AM

Lathum · 07-17-2011, 11:18 AM

ok, just waiting on MikeVic and the NFL lockout to end

MikeVic · 07-17-2011, 09:05 PM

I'm in as well.

Lathum · 07-17-2011, 09:24 PM

OK, everyone is back!

So when the lockout ends TLK will get a schedule up and we will get the ball rolling again.

Is this the last season for the three year rule?

TLK · 07-21-2011, 07:47 AM

Do we have any rule changes to vote on? I can't remember any...

JAG · 07-21-2011, 08:44 AM

Looking at last year's thread:

The FOFC Keeper League - 2010 Season - Front Office Football Central

I didn't see anything.

One thing I thought about but didn't officially propose was an idea to be able to put a keeper on IR if they suffer an injury that will keep them out a while. You're already a bit punished with having a good player out to also have to deal with the smaller bench as a result. The idea is it would work like a real life IR, you retain the rights to the player, you free them up from your roster spot, but if they get healthy you can't take them off IR until the season is over (to force you to make a decision in cases where it isn't obvious if they're out the rest of the year and so you don't use it as a way to get around bye weeks or short injuries).

We made a rule change about trading keepers in the offseason last year, correct? Do we know what the rules are for that? (can we trade draft picks with them or for them for example or just straight-up swaps?)

Lathum · 07-21-2011, 09:56 AM

Not sure if we would be able to do the IR spot with fleaflickers software

JAG · 07-21-2011, 10:29 AM

Looks like you might be right, though it could still be done outside the software. Require an announcement in-thread for example and just edit a post with list of players / teams with guys on IR. There are only 48 possible players it could happen for and I'd wager it would never end being more than say 8 of those in a year tops.

Anyway, I don't think this is a major issue, I don't mind dropping the idea altogether.

TLK · 07-25-2011, 06:04 AM

The IR idea will fly on FleaFlicker. We can vote on that.

cubboyroy1826 · 07-25-2011, 08:01 AM

I would be for the IR idea.

TLK · 07-25-2011, 03:01 PM

What players should be eligible for off-season trades... last years keepers or anybody from last years roster? We never really finished discussing it.

Once we get everyone's opinions on who is eligible, I'd like to do a one week trade window. This will allow free agency to play out in the NFL.

JAG · 07-25-2011, 03:43 PM

I believe we said keepers, but Id have to dig through the old thread to confirm. I think that would be most fair as it seems like it could be unbalancing if it was anyone. It would reward teams that did really well and punish teams that did poorly moreso than just allowing trade of keepers (unless a bad team was deep in a specific position but poor everywhere else).

PackerFanatic · 07-25-2011, 03:58 PM

I'd have to say just keepers - to me, when the season ends, it's no longer your team (except for the keepers you choose to keep). If you choose to trade one of those keepers, they obviously count as one of your keepers for that season.

TLK · 07-26-2011, 02:38 PM

FOFC Keeper League 2011 Schedule:

Quote:

July 29th – Owners Meeting. We will vote on any proposals that have been brought up. Any proposals will be accepted until this day.

August 1st – Trade Window. Four day trade window as NFL free agency plays itself out.

August 5th - All keepers are due, leaving five days before the draft to prepare. Remember, we have four keepers (QB,RB,WR/TE and Last Season Rookie.)

August 10th – The draft starts. Picks will be made through the FleaFlicker site. No time limit will be imposed to start the draft, but you're encouraged to make your pick within 12 hours of the previous pick.

August 23rd - Draft continues with normal draft rules. Two hours per pick with the clock active from 10:00 AM EST until 12:00 AM EST. You are encouraged to send in a list if you will not be around.

TLK · 07-26-2011, 02:39 PM

Past League Champions:
2004 - Lathum's Brew Crew
2005 - Vic's Heroes
2006 - Callous Dowboys
2007 - Callous Dowboys
2008 - Shaka's Big Shooters
2009 - Houston Hippopotami
2010 – The FOFC All-Stars

TLK · 07-26-2011, 02:40 PM

Keeper Rules:
-The amount of years a player can be a keeper is limited to three.
-If a player is picked as a "rookie keeper", it's counts as the first year of his three.
-This number is reset if a player is moved in a trade.

2011 Keepers:

2010 Keepers:

2009 Keepers:

TLK · 07-26-2011, 02:41 PM

2011 Draft Order
1. Shaka's Big Shooters
2. Touchdown Mafia
3. Gridiron Warriors
4. Vic's Heroes
5. Lathum's Brew Crew
6. South Side Roughnecks
7. Sal's Trangenders
8. Houston Hippopotami
9. The Insomniacs
10. All on Black
11. Callous Dowboys
12. The FOFC All-Stars

Lathum · 07-26-2011, 02:45 PM

I'm excited to see how trades and such play out with many good players hitting the 3 year cap.

Lathum · 07-26-2011, 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PackerFanatic

I'd have to say just keepers - to me, when the season ends, it's no longer your team (except for the keepers you choose to keep). If you choose to trade one of those keepers, they obviously count as one of your keepers for that season.

I kind of disagree. I think we should either name keepers earlier or be able to trade anyone on our roster so that someone else can keep them if they liike.

PackerFanatic · 07-26-2011, 02:51 PM

Next year will be pretty exciting with a lot of the original keepers hitting the market

Either that or a ton of trades this year.

Lathum · 07-26-2011, 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PackerFanatic

Next year will be pretty exciting with a lot of the original keepers hitting the market

Either that or a ton of trades this year.

yeah, anyone wants to talk trade I am always game.

PackerFanatic · 07-26-2011, 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum

I kind of disagree. I think we should either name keepers earlier or be able to trade anyone on our roster so that someone else can keep them if they liike.

The only thing about this that I would find kind of lame is the fact that if I trade for someone after the season, it should not count against me to keep them - meaning it shouldn't count as a season, since they never played for my team (since it was the offseason). It's a question of when do we consider the previous season ended and the next season started - and can we do trades before we announce keepers, or do we need to announce them sooner like you said (not sure I like that either, I like later better)

spleen1015 · 07-26-2011, 03:05 PM

Just to make sure I have this straight.

I have to keep a QB, RB, and WR/TE. A rookie keeper is optional.

johnnyshaka · 07-26-2011, 03:19 PM

Not sure how I end up with the first pick overall but I'm not complaining.

Johnnyshaka's Big Shooters Keepers:

QB M. Vick
RB M. Turner
WR D. Bowe
Rookie C.J. Spiller

Lathum · 07-26-2011, 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spleen1015

Just to make sure I have this straight.

I have to keep a QB, RB, and WR/TE. A rookie keeper is optional.

Technically you dont have to

Lathum · 07-26-2011, 03:25 PM

I am so torn on BigBen or Cutler as my keeper

spleen1015 · 07-26-2011, 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum

Technically you dont have to

Got it. Thanks.

JAG · 07-26-2011, 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnnyshaka

Not sure how I end up with the first pick overall but I'm not complaining.

Johnnyshaka's Big Shooters Keepers:

QB M. Vick
RB M. Turner
WR D. Bowe
Rookie C.J. Spiller

So you're already sure you don't want to make any trades?

Lathum · 07-26-2011, 05:32 PM

So IO think we need to get it worked out who you can and can't trade right now. IMO you should be able to trade anyone on your roster from last season. My view is they are still a part of your team. If you have the option to keep them why can't you trade them?

For example- I have big ben and Cutler, I would love to trade one of them to 27 who has Carson Palmer and Favre (doh!) I should be able to trade one so EF can keep him.

spleen1015 · 07-26-2011, 05:38 PM

I agree with Lathum on the trading issue.

I also think that if you get a guy in a trad and you decide to keep him, he has 1 year against him since he won't be in the draft this year.

Lathum · 07-26-2011, 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spleen1015

I also think that if you get a guy in a trad and you decide to keep him, he has 1 year against him since he won't be in the draft this year.

I agree with this point as well

johnnyshaka · 07-26-2011, 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JAG

So you're already sure you don't want to make any trades?

Keepers can change prior to the deadline...just want to get my list in there early to make sure I've got something down in writing.

Regarding trading at this point...my opinion is that the trade deadline has passed and trading shouldn't be open until keepers are in.

Lathum · 07-26-2011, 06:31 PM

Thats like saying the Eagles can't trade Kevin Kolb until he becoms part of their 52 man roster. MAkes no sense.

johnnyshaka · 07-26-2011, 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum

Thats like saying the Eagles can't trade Kevin Kolb until he becoms part of their 52 man roster. MAkes no sense.

I'm suggesting our fantasy teams, past the deadline, are essentially FAs at the end of the season except that we get to "tag" or "re-sign" three (plus a rookie) players prior to the season.

What's wrong with having to make a tough decision or two regarding who to keep and then making the draft more meaningful?

JAG · 07-26-2011, 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spleen1015

I also think that if you get a guy in a trad and you decide to keep him, he has 1 year against him since he won't be in the draft this year.

I agree with this. Good idea.

07-16-2011, 10:12 AM	#2
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	Returning 1. Lathum 2. Packerfanatic 3. Jonnyshaka 4. SI 5. Cubboyroy 6, Jag 7. Spleen 8. EF27 9. Samifan 10. tlk 11. Saldana 12. MikeVic Alternates 1. MollyMurphy 2. CarmenBulldog 3. Danny Last edited by Lathum : 07-17-2011 at 09:23 PM.

07-16-2011, 12:05 PM	#7
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	Sounds like a plan to me! I'm back if football is SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

07-16-2011, 04:16 PM	#11
spleen1015 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003	This is the fleaflicker league, right? EDIT - If so, I was a late addition last season. I'm still in if you guys will have me. Last edited by spleen1015 : 07-16-2011 at 04:18 PM.

07-16-2011, 09:44 PM	#13
Eaglesfan27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey	I'll be back. __________________ Retired GM of the eNFL 2007 Super Bowl Champion Philadelphia Eagles (19-0 record.) GM of the WOOF 2006 Doggie Bowl Champion Atlantic City Gamblers. GM of the IHOF 2019 and 2022 IHOF Bowl Champion Asheville Axemen.

07-16-2011, 09:47 PM	#14
samifan24 Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: NC	I'm in again __________________ "You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball...and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around all the time." -Jim Bouton

07-16-2011, 10:56 AM	#4
PackerFanatic Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Appleton, WI	Count me in.

07-16-2011, 11:48 AM	#5
johnnyshaka College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Edmonton, AB	In

07-16-2011, 11:51 AM	#6
Carman Bulldog College Benchwarmer Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Canada	Throw me on the alternate list.

07-16-2011, 12:51 PM	#8
cubboyroy1826 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jun 2002	Positively coming back.

07-16-2011, 01:50 PM	#9
Danny General Manager Join Date: Jul 2001	interested

07-16-2011, 03:02 PM	#10
JAG Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: St. Paul, MN	Back again.

07-16-2011, 10:27 PM	#15
TLK Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Allen Park, MI	I'll be back. I'm not getting excited about fantasy football until there is a settlement. I'll get something up as soon as a settlement is reached.

07-17-2011, 11:16 AM	#16
saldana Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bethlehem, Pa	In

07-17-2011, 11:18 AM	#17
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	ok, just waiting on MikeVic and the NFL lockout to end

07-17-2011, 09:05 PM	#18
MikeVic Head Coach Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Hometown of Canada	I'm in as well.

07-17-2011, 09:24 PM	#19
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	OK, everyone is back! So when the lockout ends TLK will get a schedule up and we will get the ball rolling again. Is this the last season for the three year rule?

07-21-2011, 07:47 AM	#20
TLK Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Allen Park, MI	Do we have any rule changes to vote on? I can't remember any...

07-21-2011, 08:44 AM	#21
JAG Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: St. Paul, MN	Looking at last year's thread: The FOFC Keeper League - 2010 Season - Front Office Football Central I didn't see anything. One thing I thought about but didn't officially propose was an idea to be able to put a keeper on IR if they suffer an injury that will keep them out a while. You're already a bit punished with having a good player out to also have to deal with the smaller bench as a result. The idea is it would work like a real life IR, you retain the rights to the player, you free them up from your roster spot, but if they get healthy you can't take them off IR until the season is over (to force you to make a decision in cases where it isn't obvious if they're out the rest of the year and so you don't use it as a way to get around bye weeks or short injuries). We made a rule change about trading keepers in the offseason last year, correct? Do we know what the rules are for that? (can we trade draft picks with them or for them for example or just straight-up swaps?)

07-21-2011, 09:56 AM	#22
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	Not sure if we would be able to do the IR spot with fleaflickers software

07-21-2011, 10:29 AM	#23
JAG Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: St. Paul, MN	Looks like you might be right, though it could still be done outside the software. Require an announcement in-thread for example and just edit a post with list of players / teams with guys on IR. There are only 48 possible players it could happen for and I'd wager it would never end being more than say 8 of those in a year tops. Anyway, I don't think this is a major issue, I don't mind dropping the idea altogether.

07-25-2011, 06:04 AM	#24
TLK Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Allen Park, MI	The IR idea will fly on FleaFlicker. We can vote on that.

07-25-2011, 08:01 AM	#25
cubboyroy1826 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jun 2002	I would be for the IR idea.

07-25-2011, 03:01 PM	#26
TLK Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Allen Park, MI	What players should be eligible for off-season trades... last years keepers or anybody from last years roster? We never really finished discussing it. Once we get everyone's opinions on who is eligible, I'd like to do a one week trade window. This will allow free agency to play out in the NFL. Last edited by TLK : 07-25-2011 at 03:10 PM.

07-25-2011, 03:43 PM	#27
JAG Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: St. Paul, MN	I believe we said keepers, but Id have to dig through the old thread to confirm. I think that would be most fair as it seems like it could be unbalancing if it was anyone. It would reward teams that did really well and punish teams that did poorly moreso than just allowing trade of keepers (unless a bad team was deep in a specific position but poor everywhere else).

07-25-2011, 03:58 PM	#28
PackerFanatic Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Appleton, WI	I'd have to say just keepers - to me, when the season ends, it's no longer your team (except for the keepers you choose to keep). If you choose to trade one of those keepers, they obviously count as one of your keepers for that season.

07-26-2011, 02:39 PM	#30
TLK Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Allen Park, MI	Past League Champions: 2004 - Lathum's Brew Crew 2005 - Vic's Heroes 2006 - Callous Dowboys 2007 - Callous Dowboys 2008 - Shaka's Big Shooters 2009 - Houston Hippopotami 2010 – The FOFC All-Stars Last edited by TLK : 07-26-2011 at 02:39 PM.

07-26-2011, 02:40 PM	#31
TLK Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Allen Park, MI	Keeper Rules: -The amount of years a player can be a keeper is limited to three. -If a player is picked as a "rookie keeper", it's counts as the first year of his three. -This number is reset if a player is moved in a trade. 2011 Keepers: 2010 Keepers: 2009 Keepers:

07-26-2011, 02:41 PM	#32
TLK Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Allen Park, MI	2011 Draft Order 1. Shaka's Big Shooters 2. Touchdown Mafia 3. Gridiron Warriors 4. Vic's Heroes 5. Lathum's Brew Crew 6. South Side Roughnecks 7. Sal's Trangenders 8. Houston Hippopotami 9. The Insomniacs 10. All on Black 11. Callous Dowboys 12. The FOFC All-Stars

07-26-2011, 02:45 PM	#33
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	I'm excited to see how trades and such play out with many good players hitting the 3 year cap.

07-26-2011, 02:51 PM	#35
PackerFanatic Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Appleton, WI	Next year will be pretty exciting with a lot of the original keepers hitting the market Either that or a ton of trades this year.

07-26-2011, 03:05 PM	#38
spleen1015 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003	Just to make sure I have this straight. I have to keep a QB, RB, and WR/TE. A rookie keeper is optional.

07-26-2011, 03:19 PM	#39
johnnyshaka College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Edmonton, AB	Not sure how I end up with the first pick overall but I'm not complaining. Johnnyshaka's Big Shooters Keepers: QB M. Vick RB M. Turner WR D. Bowe Rookie C.J. Spiller

07-26-2011, 03:25 PM	#41
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	I am so torn on BigBen or Cutler as my keeper

07-26-2011, 05:32 PM	#44
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	So IO think we need to get it worked out who you can and can't trade right now. IMO you should be able to trade anyone on your roster from last season. My view is they are still a part of your team. If you have the option to keep them why can't you trade them? For example- I have big ben and Cutler, I would love to trade one of them to 27 who has Carson Palmer and Favre (doh!) I should be able to trade one so EF can keep him.

07-26-2011, 05:38 PM	#45
spleen1015 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003	I agree with Lathum on the trading issue. I also think that if you get a guy in a trad and you decide to keep him, he has 1 year against him since he won't be in the draft this year.