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Old 01-12-2012, 06:00 AM   #1
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I'm With Stupid - IWS #184 Results

Great, great turnout. One of those questions was downright evil. The rest I think we got great splits on. It's weird- all of the questions were splitters, this time. There were no real eliminators and I'm ok with that. We still got a good spread of scores.

I actually penciled in my answers (not part of the score tabulation) before we started because I wanted to see how I would do. I did not do well at all.

1. Which is a better Spring Training location- Weather, games, the whole nine yards: Arizona or Florida?
Florida - 37
Arizona - 11
I went with Arizona, but Florida loves stupid. Wait, I had that backwards: Stupid loves Florida. It's as close to as eliminator question as we had.

2. Speaking of real, live baseball, what's the best stadium to watch a game in?
Wrigley Field - 17
Fenway Park - 13
Yankee Stadium - 8
Busch Stadium - 3
Kauffman Stadium - 2
Citizens Bank Park, Miller Park, AT&T Park, Camden Yards, and "Any minor league park will do" - 1
My guess is Wrigley and while I've never been to Fenway, I'm guessing it is similarly in a class by itself. For all other ballparks, I love Kauffman but Camden Yards gets my vote for favorite place to watch a game. I've actually been to all of the above except Fenway.

3. Albert Pujols is at 445 homers and only 31 so he'll probably break the mark in 2013. Who is the next to 500 (not including him)?
Chipper Jones - 11
Mark Teixeira - 7
Prince Fielder - 7
Vlad Guerrero - 6
Adam Dunn - 4
Ryan Howard - 3
Paul Konerko - 3
Miguel Cabrera - 3
Andruw Jones - 2
David Ortiz - 1
Albert Pujols - 1 ("Stupid doesn't follow rules")
I feel guilty about this question because I think it's really hard but I was really curious about the answer from the folks here. The more I think about it, the more I am unhappy with my answer of Miguel Cabrera. Really, no one is in a good spot to break this mark except for Albert Pujols. Everyone is either over 30 or not halfway there. I think it just goes to show how extraordinary the last 10 years were, steroids or no.

4. Where does the vast and voluminous vegetarian Prince Fielder sign?
Nationals - 21
Cubs - 7
Rangers - 6
Brewers - 6
Mariners - 5
Yankees - 2
Dodgers - 1
The rest of the questions were more "off the top of your head, try to groupthink Stupid". Good splits with decently large number answers but no plurality. I figured Stupid would have him signing with the Cubs as that's been the rumor all along but the Nats rumors have been pretty strong lately.

5. Besides the Phillies, pick a team to win the NLCS.
Cardinals - 19
Giants - 9
Diamondbacks - 6
Reds - 5
Braves - 4
Marlins - 4
Brewers - 1
I had the Cardinals, too. Morans. I think the picture might have influenced this a bit and I thought the Reds would have a better showing with how much they were in the news. I forget who sent the comment to me with their answers, but it is pretty striking how much of a dropoff there is between the Phillies and the rest of the NL and the results show this.

6. Finally, humor me: how many games do the Yuni-powered Royals win this year?
70 - 17
75 - 7
80 - 5
71 - 4
60 - 4
81 - 3
85 - 2
100 (hopelessly optimistic!), 72, 74, 65, 50, 0 (ouch!) - 1
I went with 75 and I figured it and 70 would be the popular answers. I overlooked that the Royals won 71 last year. I'm sure Yuni will power them either to that 100 or 0

Now for the results:

Big League Chew:
corbes 7,854

Minor Leaguer:
EagleFan 12,654
Abe Sargent 14,208
PackerFanatic 15,708
varacel 35,520
SackAttack 46,620
Comey 54,390
gstelmack 60,606

LOOGY:
tarcone 103,341
cartman 114,444
Breeze 153,846
Scarecrow 191,808
Pyser 196,840
Butter_of_69 209,088
CU Tiger 242,424
Julio Riddols 243,100
Mustang 426,360
TRO 482,790

Utility Infielder:
Grover 565,656
panerd 615,384
Suburban Rhythm 636,363
Chief Rum 801,108
General Mike 832,167
Barkeep49 896,610
QuikSand 989,604

Major League Starter:
CrimsonFox 1,212,120
Toddzilla 1,452,990
Logan 1,505,826
BYU 14 1,505,826
MizzouRah 1,507,935
bitrock88 1,545,453
DanGarion 1,566,432
ntndeacon 1,849,260

All Star:
dzilla77 2,342,396
digamma 2,536,842
jbergey22 2,588,964
StLee 2,905,980
chesapeake 3,070,704
PurdueBrad 3,090,906
Warhammer 3,657,006

Hall of Famer:
MIJB#19 4,015,536
spleen1015 4,041,954
korme 4,491,060
Solecismic 5,373,732
Glengoyne 8,444,436

Third:
Ronnie Dobbs2 12,799,521

Second:
Dark Cloud 15,643,859

And our winner:
claphamsa 46,931,577
Perfect score: Turns out you're not always in the bottom ranks as you claim

Anyone have a place to post the spreadsheet or does anyone really care?

Thanks for playing! Hope everyone enjoyed themselves and I know I won't be thinking too much of baseball as winter moves into town today

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Old 01-12-2012, 06:31 AM   #2
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Great job clap. I'm doing better. But tell me this. How the hell can Chipper Jones get to 500 when he's averaging 17 HR a year the past 4 years and 15 the past 3 years. and he's 40 now with still 47 HR to go...IF they play him and IF he doesn't get injured and IF he doesn't retire.

I guess stupid doesn't look at stats. Lesson learned.
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Old 01-12-2012, 06:34 AM   #3
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oh and now that the results are posted, I found this article amusing about Fielder: Why Prince Fielder Hasn't Signed - Baseball Nation

I'm really beginning to think no one is going to give him the contract he wants. But then again I keep hearing lots of reports and hype.
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Old 01-12-2012, 06:37 AM   #4
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Great job clap. I'm doing better. But tell me this. How the hell can Chipper Jones get to 500 when he's averaging 17 HR a year the past 4 years and 15 the past 3 years. and he's 40 now with still 47 HR to go...IF they play him and IF he doesn't get injured and IF he doesn't retire.

I guess stupid doesn't look at stats. Lesson learned.

If you go down the list of active players there's not very many with enough years left to get to 500. I think Miguel Cabrera is the closest with a real shot at doing it.
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Old 01-12-2012, 06:42 AM   #5
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Old 01-12-2012, 07:01 AM   #6
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If you go down the list of active players there's not very many with enough years left to get to 500. I think Miguel Cabrera is the closest with a real shot at doing it.

Yeah I did that and went with Vladi as he was only 37 and at least there's a possibility he could do it if he lasts 4-5 more years. I just don't think there's any way Chipper can do it.

Oh and THANKS sterlingice! This was great. Excellent quick turnaround!
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Old 01-12-2012, 07:10 AM   #7
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I had all the top answers, but forgot to send in my entry, damn!
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Old 01-12-2012, 07:11 AM   #8
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I forget who sent the comment to me with their answers, but it is pretty striking how much of a dropoff there is between the Phillies and the rest of the NL and the results show this.

That was me I think and it was stunned to see that.

Claphamsa, congrats!

I know I second-guessed a couple of mine. I should've gone Teixera over Konerko and I just can't bring myself to pick Wrigley for the ballpark.

Great round SI, thanks for the quick turnaround as well!
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Old 01-12-2012, 07:15 AM   #9
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I had all the top answers, but forgot to send in my entry, damn!

That's what everyone says

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Old 01-12-2012, 07:17 AM   #10
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Yes, but not everyone admits they are going to do it before hand lol. Just from when I read the initial thread I did have Florida, Wrigley and the Cardinals, but I probably would have said Ryan Howard and no idea what I would have put for the Royals.
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Old 01-12-2012, 07:19 AM   #11
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For Howard, I was thinking he could be like a Thome bopper guy who eventually gets to DH and rack some homers in his mid and late 30's
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Old 01-12-2012, 07:26 AM   #12
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I think my answer of Prince Fielder will prove to be "right". Miggy is probably 32 and he could always miss a season or two for rehab.
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Old 01-12-2012, 07:27 AM   #13
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I think my answer of Prince Fielder will prove to be "right". Miggy is probably 32 and he could always miss a season or two for rehab.

For some reason, I just see him as a guy who falls off a cliff in a hurry. And, yeah, probably because subconciously I see him as someone who /is/ 32 already.

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Old 01-12-2012, 07:32 AM   #14
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The correct answer may end up being Mike Stanton
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I had all the top answers, but forgot to send in my entry, damn!


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Old 01-12-2012, 07:38 AM   #16
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Being a Chicago fan I just assumed East Coast bias and purposefully didn't put down Wrigley. At least the other answer I didn't actually believe in, the 500 Homers, I got the best response.
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Old 01-12-2012, 07:40 AM   #17
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Wow, I've never done that well before.
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Old 01-12-2012, 08:29 AM   #18
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It occurred to me on my drive to work that the game is called I'm With Stupid and since Chipper Jones is a stupid answer...
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Old 01-12-2012, 08:41 AM   #19
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Old 01-12-2012, 09:05 AM   #20
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It occurred to me on my drive to work that the game is called I'm With Stupid and since Chipper Jones is a stupid answer...

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Old 01-12-2012, 09:21 AM   #21
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If you go down the list of active players there's not very many with enough years left to get to 500. I think Miguel Cabrera is the closest with a real shot at doing it.

That was why I picked Vlad, 36 years old and only needs a couple seasons of 20 to get it.
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Old 01-12-2012, 09:53 AM   #22
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I should have figured East Coast bias for the spring training answer. My answer was dumb, not Stupid.

I am surprised so many still went with the Cardinals when they lost Pujols. I mean, I know the team wasn't just one player, but that's one heck of a player to lose and still expect to be one of the top two teams in the NL. I went with the Marlins. Maybe we hold this in November, they would have gotten more consideration.

I had Ryan Howard. I completely forgot about Chipper and even Vladdy. If I didn't go Howard, I was thinking Fielder or Berkman or Miggy.
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Old 01-12-2012, 09:59 AM   #23
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I went with the Cards because they won the last title. Stupid doesn't like thinking. Same reason I said Prince would stay with the Brewers.
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Old 01-12-2012, 10:38 AM   #24
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If you go down the list of active players there's not very many with enough years left to get to 500. I think Miguel Cabrera is the closest with a real shot at doing it.

Agreed. I actually chose Tex because I thought stupid would like that answer. I wouldnt have considered Chipper.
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Old 01-12-2012, 10:51 AM   #25
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Wow, my attempted logic went out the window.

Went with Busch Stadium because that is where the last game of baseball was played last year.

Went with Pujols because this isn't MMR and there are no wrong answers. Figured that more people would say him simply because they were told not to.

Went with the Brewers instead of actually trying to guess where as I figured that would be the common route.

Went with 100 because I hoped that everyone would like nice round numbers and that is the number that jumps out.

At least I nailed Florida and Cardinals.

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Old 01-12-2012, 11:04 AM   #26
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Wow, my attempted logic went out the window.

Went with Busch Stadium because that is where the last game of baseball was played last year.

Went with Pujols because this isn't MMR and there are no wrong answers. Figured that more people would say him simply because they were told not to.

Went with the Brewers instead of actually trying to guess where as I figured that would be the common route.

Went with 100 because I hoped that everyone would like nice round numbers and that is the number that jumps out.

At least I nailed Florida and Cardinals.


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Old 01-12-2012, 11:09 AM   #27
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Old 01-12-2012, 11:25 AM   #28
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I thought Albert would get a few more votes on #3 as well, but I went with Chipper.

He's the closest to 500 on the active list, even closer than Pujols. And while I don't think he gets there, it was the tried and true way to answer an IWS question.

All in all, I would have done better if I didn't answer like a Royals fan so much.
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I almost went with A-Rod for #3. Stupid surprised me.
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Old 01-12-2012, 11:43 AM   #30
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It occurred to me on my drive to work that the game is called I'm With Stupid and since Chipper Jones is a stupid answer...

Stupid's answer would normally be the power hitter most in the news. Prince Fielder was in another question for crying out loud.

Too many baseball folks going for the "right" answers here threw off those of us that try to game the IWS questions...

(not that I often game it very well... )
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This was a really good set of questions BTW.
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Wow, my attempted logic went out the window.

Went with Busch Stadium because that is where the last game of baseball was played last year.

Went with Pujols because this isn't MMR and there are no wrong answers. Figured that more people would say him simply because they were told not to.

Went with the Brewers instead of actually trying to guess where as I figured that would be the common route.

Went with 100 because I hoped that everyone would like nice round numbers and that is the number that jumps out.

At least I nailed Florida and Cardinals.



So YOU were the one! Wow that was really stupid. I bow to your stupidity. There should be an achievement unlocked for EF now.
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Old 01-12-2012, 11:55 AM   #33
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Most of the folks around here are pretty smart, IMO. So, I figured they would look at active players and make an educated choice. It looks like they just picked the guy on the top of the list that wasn't Pujols.

Then with the NLCS question, I wouldn't have thought in a million years that the answer would be the Cardinals. They've lost Pujols and LaRussa. No fucking way they make it in my mind.

I got the rest of the questions right at least.
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I figured the Larkin thing would have the Reds in people's minds.

And actually the Brewers WERE my first guess for Prince. THen the Cubs, then finally after I read more stuff, the Nationals.

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I figured the Larkin thing would have the Reds in people's minds.

And actually the Brewers WERE my first guess for Prince. THen the Cubs, then finally after I read more stuff, the Nationals.

I picked the Nats because they were the last team I heard were interested.
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Old 01-12-2012, 12:11 PM   #36
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Doh....I changed from Wrigley field to Fenway Park

but the real problem was elsewhere in my plotting.

There I was thinking that repeating historical results would provide a win, what with Stupid favoring a six to nine national championship game.

However, historical results are apparently trumped by round numbers, and 70 is a rounder answer than 71.
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I actually thought the most popular team in the world would have been the Stadium everyone would want to go to...
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This has now surpassed Hot or Not for fun in a thread.
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Where's the love for Andruw Jones?

Since he stopped taking steroids, he doesn't hit any more HR.
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Oh well, I think that was my best result in a baseball themed IWS ever, by a huge margin. Steroids or not.

My other out was the stadium question, I thought baseball related stuff requires at least some mentioning of the Yankees.
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Old 01-12-2012, 05:22 PM   #43
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Old 01-12-2012, 06:48 PM   #44
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Probably the best I've ever done with one of these

You had the lead for a while in my tabulating because the HR list was so split and almost all of the Reds votes for best NL team came early.

Same with Solecismic because Wrigley and Fenway were neck and neck for a while until Wrigley pulled away.

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This has now surpassed Hot or Not for fun in a thread.

I would throw everyone from answer #3 out of my bed. But that would mainly be because I'd be going "Why the hell is someone else (not my wife) in my bed?!? This is my bed!"

Now it's your turn to call me an internet nerd who lives in his mother's basement and gets no play

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Old 01-12-2012, 06:49 PM   #46
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I am happy that I got to make someone "Big League Chew", too. And it's not like cormes answers were bad. This wasn't one of those pseudo-MMR ones that you sometimes get where someone is just trying to be a smart-a with every question. For instance, he had the Brewers for NL champ- that's not that odd. I mean, they were in the NLCS last year and they're one Yuni better. And Camden, which is a great place to watch a game. But both were 1s and that sort of thing kills an IWS score.

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Old 01-12-2012, 10:04 PM   #48
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Great questions, and as far as AZ/Fla, living in AZ I picked Florida. Weather here is good and all, but we don't have beaches.
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Great job clap. I'm doing better. But tell me this. How the hell can Chipper Jones get to 500 when he's averaging 17 HR a year the past 4 years and 15 the past 3 years. and he's 40 now with still 47 HR to go...IF they play him and IF he doesn't get injured and IF he doesn't retire.

I guess stupid doesn't look at stats. Lesson learned.

Stupid just looked at who was next on the list. Stupid doesn't over think.
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