Where's the love?

-Panther · 05-01-2003, 08:26 AM

I get no respect anymore I tell ya,

pre-wednesday I was tied at 34th in the rankings, after wednesday
I get bumped completely off the chart

No love for the underdog I tell ya

FrogMan · 05-01-2003, 08:33 AM

HUH?!? What are you talking about? I'm not following you here.

I still have not updated the rankings with the cup results. Your team is still in there at #34...

FM

-Panther · 05-01-2003, 08:36 AM

now your toying with my emotions right?

please say you are... must.....be.....sane.....

I swear I just checked the site and I was not on there....
checked it now and I'm there...

God, I've got to take a vacation................

FrogMan · 05-01-2003, 08:52 AM

need......to.....sleep....instead......of......daytrade......in.......hattrick.....

FM

-Panther · 05-01-2003, 09:01 AM

daytrade? HA I can't bid 1k on a player lol....

"you don't have enough funds to make that offer"

If I knew the values to daytrade, I'd be much wealthier than I am lol

vex · 05-01-2003, 09:12 AM

I know the feeling, -Panther. Right now I'm somewhere around -$290,000.

Qwikshot · 05-01-2003, 10:23 AM

Hi I'm Qwikshot, and I was a daytrader, I don't daytrade anymore.

lytic · 05-01-2003, 10:26 AM

Daytraders Anonymous?

-Panther · 05-01-2003, 11:33 AM

I wish my debt was from daytrading lol... instead I'm stuck with -193k (-222k saturday night) from dumb "I'm new and don't know what I'm doing, so I'll hit the transfer wire" mistakes. Oh what I'd give to have it all over to do again

AKnightofNi · 05-01-2003, 01:38 PM

"I'm new and don't know what I'm doing, so I'll hit the transfer wire" mistakes. Oh what I'd give to have it all over to do again."

-Panther and others, as I have signed-up for a team but not gotten one yet, what exactly are are the mistakes you refer to so I don't make them...or should I start a new thread?

McSweeny · 05-01-2003, 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AKnightofNi
"I'm new and don't know what I'm doing, so I'll hit the transfer wire" mistakes. Oh what I'd give to have it all over to do again."

-Panther and others, as I have signed-up for a team but not gotten one yet, what exactly are are the mistakes you refer to so I don't make them...or should I start a new thread?

even with our help you are bound to make several stupid or foolish mistakes early while you are still learning the game. It's all well and good to get lots of advice and read(and re-read) the rules, but nothing beats actually game experience

FrogMan · 05-01-2003, 01:49 PM

wait before you really know what a good player is before trying to marginally improve your team. By that, I mean learn what skills are needed for what position, i.e. scoring/passing for a forward, etc...

Look at your team very, very well. Maybe post your roster in a separate thread in here for other to comment on. Try to find who's worth anything and who needs to be fired rightaway...

I'm sure others can think of many other things not to do in the beginning

FM

-Panther · 05-01-2003, 01:49 PM

until you've got a firm grasp on how the TW works and a somewhat decent knowledge of what's 'acceptable' for a specific
skill/value, stay away from the transfer wire

.

also, don't fill your team with all 17-18 y/o players. only get the
young trainees for what you intend to train. If you're training
playmaking, why pay 200k for a 17 y/o solid scorer when you can
pay 100-125k for an older one that will do just fine. The 17 y/o
won't get any playmaking training since he's playing Forward, so
why get one that young and pay so much more....

Me, I paid 'high' prices for mediocre players because I didn't know
what the 'acceptable' price range for that type of player was.

hence the 190-220k debt I'm crawling out of....

-Panther · 05-01-2003, 01:52 PM

don't get worried or discouraged, if you don't make mistakes, you're doing something wrong.... mistakes lead to better knowledge and understanding of how the game works...

dacman · 05-01-2003, 01:55 PM

You could do what I did, and not get to involved transfer-wise until you've had your team for a few weeks and learned some of the ropes. I only made 1 "mistake" transfer-wise and it wasn't all that bad, really.

Airhog · 05-01-2003, 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by -Panther
until you've got a firm grasp on how the TW works and a somewhat decent knowledge of what's 'acceptable' for a specific
skill/value, stay away from the transfer wire .

also, don't fill your team with all 17-18 y/o players. only get the
young trainees for what you intend to train. If you're training
playmaking, why pay 200k for a 17 y/o solid scorer when you can
pay 100-125k for an older one that will do just fine. The 17 y/o
won't get any playmaking training since he's playing Forward, so
why get one that young and pay so much more....

Me, I paid 'high' prices for mediocre players because I didn't know
what the 'acceptable' price range for that type of player was.

hence the 190-220k debt I'm crawling out of....

to each his own I guess, since we are talking about low skill level players, its not a bad idea to get the younger guys, especially if your in a low division.

My reasoning is that if you dont get promoted in the next few seasons, you dont have to worry about continually replacing your older guys, which just eats up more of your funds that you could be spending on slowly improving your team.

-Panther · 05-01-2003, 03:37 PM

I'm not saying go get a bunch of 30+ y/o players... but 22-24 is a
good place to start and they're, for the most part, cheaper than
their younger counterparts. I've got 17-19 y/o guys all over (except middies

) simply because I still don't know what I want to
train. Scary isn't it? I'm seriously considering winger since it seems
to be a disliked training regement by many, more for me.

vex · 05-01-2003, 03:44 PM

At 22-24 they can still be a little pricey. I would say go for 25-27 y/o players.

Havok · 05-01-2003, 03:49 PM

FOFC's newest daytrader right here

vex · 05-01-2003, 04:13 PM

I would be if I had the money

Airhog · 05-01-2003, 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AKnightofNi
"I'm new and don't know what I'm doing, so I'll hit the transfer wire" mistakes. Oh what I'd give to have it all over to do again."

-Panther and others, as I have signed-up for a team but not gotten one yet, what exactly are are the mistakes you refer to so I don't make them...or should I start a new thread?

Here is what I reccomend. Take stock of your team, and use the website mybest team to set your first lineup. Also, go grab HAM while you are at it....

Now after you have done this, wait at least a few weeks before altering your lineups. Look at the players that consistantly get less that 2 stars ratings, these are the guys you want to replace.

http://hattrickgameday.tripod.com/hattrick/id16.html

read all of the info here, this gives you an idea of what is needed for each skill.

At the lower levels, midfield is crucial. I would reccomend you try to get the best midfield you can afford. Also if you keeper is worse than passable, upgrade him too.

AKnightofNi · 05-01-2003, 06:28 PM

So, as my girlfriend (now wife) used to say, "Slow down, you freakin' idiot."

FrogMan · 05-01-2003, 06:44 PM

he, he, he,

Also, here are two sites that helped me quite a lot at the beginning of my new life as a hattricker:

http://www.databased.at/hattrick/index.asp

http://hem.passagen.se/hammervald/ab...tics_index.htm

Best of luck!

FM

AKnightofNi · 05-01-2003, 11:26 PM

thanks.

I have inhaled them as best I could.

05-01-2003, 08:33 AM	#2
FrogMan Hattrick Moderator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Pintendre, Qc, Canada	HUH?!? What are you talking about? I'm not following you here. I still have not updated the rankings with the cup results. Your team is still in there at #34... FM __________________ A Black Belt is a White Belt who refused to give up... follow my story: The real life story of a running frog...

05-01-2003, 08:52 AM	#4
FrogMan Hattrick Moderator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Pintendre, Qc, Canada	need......to.....sleep....instead......of......daytrade......in.......hattrick..... FM __________________ A Black Belt is a White Belt who refused to give up... follow my story: The real life story of a running frog...

05-01-2003, 09:01 AM	#5
-Panther High School Varsity Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Lost	daytrade? HA I can't bid 1k on a player lol.... "you don't have enough funds to make that offer" If I knew the values to daytrade, I'd be much wealthier than I am lol __________________ Stupidity is an Equal Opportunity Employer.

05-01-2003, 10:23 AM	#7
Qwikshot Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: ...down the gravity well	Hi I'm Qwikshot, and I was a daytrader, I don't daytrade anymore. __________________ "General Woundwort's body was never found. It could be that he still lives his fierce life somewhere else, but from that day on, mother rabbits would tell their kittens that if they did not do as they were told, the General would get them. Such was Woundwort's monument, and perhaps it would not have displeased him." Watership Down, Richard Adams

05-01-2003, 10:26 AM	#8
lytic College Benchwarmer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: back in Nebraska (for a couple years)	Daytraders Anonymous? __________________ Hattrick stuff: SouthPark Cows' General Manager (Est Season 16) U20 South Korea Trainer (Season 19-22) Hattrick Moderator (since Season 22) Evil Gargs' Hater (since Season 18) -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-- My Pro Soccer Story

05-01-2003, 08:36 AM	#3
-Panther High School Varsity Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Lost	now your toying with my emotions right? please say you are... must.....be.....sane..... I swear I just checked the site and I was not on there.... checked it now and I'm there... God, I've got to take a vacation................ __________________ Stupidity is an Equal Opportunity Employer.

05-01-2003, 09:12 AM	#6
vex Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Tulsa	I know the feeling, -Panther. Right now I'm somewhere around -$290,000.

05-01-2003, 11:33 AM	#9
-Panther High School Varsity Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Lost	I wish my debt was from daytrading lol... instead I'm stuck with -193k (-222k saturday night) from dumb "I'm new and don't know what I'm doing, so I'll hit the transfer wire" mistakes. Oh what I'd give to have it all over to do again __________________ Stupidity is an Equal Opportunity Employer.

05-01-2003, 01:38 PM	#10
AKnightofNi n00b Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Texas, of course.	"I'm new and don't know what I'm doing, so I'll hit the transfer wire" mistakes. Oh what I'd give to have it all over to do again." -Panther and others, as I have signed-up for a team but not gotten one yet, what exactly are are the mistakes you refer to so I don't make them...or should I start a new thread? __________________ it,it,it

05-01-2003, 01:49 PM	#12
FrogMan Hattrick Moderator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Pintendre, Qc, Canada	wait before you really know what a good player is before trying to marginally improve your team. By that, I mean learn what skills are needed for what position, i.e. scoring/passing for a forward, etc... Look at your team very, very well. Maybe post your roster in a separate thread in here for other to comment on. Try to find who's worth anything and who needs to be fired rightaway... I'm sure others can think of many other things not to do in the beginning FM __________________ A Black Belt is a White Belt who refused to give up... follow my story: The real life story of a running frog...

05-01-2003, 01:52 PM	#14
-Panther High School Varsity Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Lost	don't get worried or discouraged, if you don't make mistakes, you're doing something wrong.... mistakes lead to better knowledge and understanding of how the game works... __________________ Stupidity is an Equal Opportunity Employer.

05-01-2003, 01:55 PM	#15
dacman College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: speak to the trout	You could do what I did, and not get to involved transfer-wise until you've had your team for a few weeks and learned some of the ropes. I only made 1 "mistake" transfer-wise and it wasn't all that bad, really. __________________ No signatures allowed.

05-01-2003, 03:37 PM	#17
-Panther High School Varsity Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Lost	I'm not saying go get a bunch of 30+ y/o players... but 22-24 is a good place to start and they're, for the most part, cheaper than their younger counterparts. I've got 17-19 y/o guys all over (except middies ) simply because I still don't know what I want to train. Scary isn't it? I'm seriously considering winger since it seems to be a disliked training regement by many, more for me. __________________ Stupidity is an Equal Opportunity Employer.

05-01-2003, 03:44 PM	#18
vex Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Tulsa	At 22-24 they can still be a little pricey. I would say go for 25-27 y/o players.

05-01-2003, 03:49 PM	#19
Havok College Starter Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Florida	FOFC's newest daytrader right here __________________ Maniacal Misfitz - We're better than you and we know it!

05-01-2003, 04:13 PM	#20
vex Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Tulsa	I would be if I had the money

05-01-2003, 06:28 PM	#22
AKnightofNi n00b Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Texas, of course.	So, as my girlfriend (now wife) used to say, "Slow down, you freakin' idiot." __________________ it,it,it

05-01-2003, 06:44 PM	#23
FrogMan Hattrick Moderator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Pintendre, Qc, Canada	he, he, he, Also, here are two sites that helped me quite a lot at the beginning of my new life as a hattricker: http://www.databased.at/hattrick/index.asp http://hem.passagen.se/hammervald/ab...tics_index.htm Best of luck! FM __________________ A Black Belt is a White Belt who refused to give up... follow my story: The real life story of a running frog...

05-01-2003, 11:26 PM	#24
AKnightofNi n00b Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Texas, of course.	thanks. I have inhaled them as best I could. __________________ it,it,it

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