Booms on "Static" Bars

[Southpaw330]

I'm sure this has been discussed somewhere that I can't find but I've seen three or four cases of this, on a rookie boom in his first camp. I'm virtually certain this isn't volatility at work here, though it may play some role, since all of the players have continued to gain in chunks over subsequent offseasons. I'm curious about other insights on this, as I'm sure plenty of people have seen this as well.

The trends I've noticed are:

1) The player's non-static bars appear low, relative to his bureau grade and combine scores, even in light of point two.

2) The player will have one or two relatively good(blues, maybe a single red) scores, but an otherwise very middling set of combine scores.

3) The player will have a static bar that lays to the right of the other bars - pre-draft - by a somewhat handsome margin, though not outstanding by any stretch e.g., the static will seem to lay at 45-55 and the rest of the bars will appear to be in the 10-20 range.

[Joker]

Handsome...yes there was a time...

I think it moved...

Static bar movement, will soon be a way of life.

Look at Clive Davis.

This kinda thing does not happen in Kansas.

Proceed, gentleman with caution.

that is all.

[aston217]

Static bars themselves do not move very much apart from volatility. However, you might be talking about a very common indication of a player who is heavily masked....and it's as you say:

-Strong static bar
-Non-static bars that are low, but a strong combine (which can be of varying degrees of strong-ness)

The vast, vast majority of players in FOF are very overrated and will drop potential in their rookie TCs, and continue unmasking downwards over the years.

The above is one indication of a player who is masked in the opposite way, and will slowly creep up over the years (but not experience much movement in his static bar, short of age or volatility).

[Ben E Lou]

Originally Posted by aston217

The vast, vast majority of players in FOF are very overrated and will drop potential in their rookie TCs, and continue unmasking downwards over the years.

This is not true. Last I checked it was either a very slight majority or a plurality of guys that drop in potential. Nowhere near a "vast, vast majority."

[Southpaw330]

Originally Posted by aston217

Static bars themselves do not move very much apart from volatility. However, you might be talking about a very common indication of a player who is heavily masked....and it's as you say:

-Strong static bar
-Non-static bars that are low, but a strong combine (which can be of varying degrees of strong-ness)

The vast, vast majority of players in FOF are very overrated and will drop potential in their rookie TCs, and continue unmasking downwards over the years.

The above is one indication of a player who is masked in the opposite way, and will slowly creep up over the years (but not experience much movement in his static bar, short of age or volatility).

These guys are not just volatility booms, they're steady creepers and a static bar will jump around ten points in their first camp. I don't know whether there is some interaction with volatility or not. I would need to go back and check but I'm pretty sure at least one of them was pretty low on the volatility spectrum (I realize this doesn't completely rule out a volatility boom). Also, the static bar is not always what I would call "solid."

[aston217]

Originally Posted by Ben E Lou

This is not true. Last I checked it was either a very slight majority or a plurality of guys that drop in potential. Nowhere near a "vast, vast majority."

OK, you're probably right. I said that completely wrong. There are more guys who are VO than in any other category, I guess that's what I mean. At least I thought so.

A static bar jumping 10 points sounds to me like volatility. It doesn't mean that they couldn't be creepers anyway. AFAIK volatility doesn't affect a player's unmasking direction.