God Bless The Kobe-Stopper

Kodos · 05-07-2003, 10:44 PM

What a fun game this has been to watch! GO SPURS!!!

bigdawg2003 · 05-07-2003, 11:17 PM

Yeah, Bowen was UNCONSCIOUS tonight. I have a hard time seeing the Lakers pull this one out.

JeeberD · 05-07-2003, 11:23 PM

I hate the Lakers!!!!

MrBug708 · 05-07-2003, 11:26 PM

Like those Kings and Blazers of the past?

Guess George was more important than we though

With the reign being disrupted, I hope we dont go one year routes with Pippen and Malone. Pippen is overated and Malone's been the Lakers nemesis for 18 years. Too bad we'll draft real high. Maybe a trade for Mr. Brand of the Clippers?!?

So many questions. Shaw, Horry, Walker, and Mdvedenko are gone

AgPete · 05-07-2003, 11:34 PM

Kodos, you are on a mission to destroy the Cowboys. Are the Lakers on your agenda too? You are a one man dynasty fighting machine!

MrBug708 · 05-10-2003, 12:02 AM

What happened to te Kobe stopper?

TroyF · 05-10-2003, 10:04 AM

Actually, the Kobe stopper had a pretty good game stopping Kobe. Kobe got a lot of points on transition and a ton at the foul line. 19 free throw attempts. Still, he shot 10-23 from the floor, which the Spurs will take anyday of the week.

The problem the Spurs had was that nobody could hit a shot outside of Duncan. The other guys shot 27% from the floor. (the other starters were 20% from the floor) Most of the misses were open J's that didn't go down. Those misses led to transition baskets.

All in all, everything went right for the Lakers. They shot 50%+ from the floor, went to the line 40 times, held the Spurs to 40% from the floor and had 21 assists. That makes the series 1-0 (Lakers) when everything goes right for the Lakers, 1-0 (Spurs) when everything goes right for the Spurs and 1-0 (Spurs) when both teams suck.

TroyF

heybrad · 05-10-2003, 11:38 AM

Forget about the Kobe-stopper. How about the Ref-Stopper, Jack Nicholson.

tucker342 · 05-10-2003, 12:04 PM

That was great

Kodos · 05-10-2003, 12:20 PM

They should have thrown him out. Just because you're a celebrity doesn't give you a free pass to be an ass.

Nobody was predicting a sweep here. Go Spurs.

BTW, I don't mind good dynasties, like the late-nineties Broncos. But the Lakers must die.

JeeberD · 05-10-2003, 12:30 PM

Two Super Bowls is a dynasty? Sorry, no...

But I guess for a Dolphins fan two SB's must seem like an unimaginable dream...

Kodos · 05-10-2003, 12:35 PM

Um. Only undefeated season in league history.

The Cowboys are probably a pretty good team in the jail league.

heybrad · 05-10-2003, 12:43 PM

Aliens become very bitter when they dont win titles.

JeeberD · 05-10-2003, 01:20 PM

I'm so sorry, Kodos. My memory must be going. Or is it just that I don't remember everything that happened 30 YEARS AGO...

ACStrider · 05-11-2003, 01:22 AM

I'm a die hard Mavs fan, but if the Mavs losing was a requirement for the Lakers to be knocked out, I would take the Mavs and Lakers loss anyday...that is until Shaq, Kobe, and Phil Jackson are gone, then it might be a different story.

Kodos · 05-11-2003, 12:20 PM

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Originally posted by ACStrider
I'm a die hard Mavs fan, but if the Mavs losing was a requirement for the Lakers to be knocked out, I would take the Mavs and Lakers loss anyday...that is until Shaq, Kobe, and Phil Jackson are gone, then it might be a different story.

God bless you son. Sacrificing for the greater good. I'm tearing up...

tucker342 · 05-11-2003, 02:57 PM

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Originally posted by ACStrider
I'm a die hard Mavs fan, but if the Mavs losing was a requirement for the Lakers to be knocked out, I would take the Mavs and Lakers loss anyday...that is until Shaq, Kobe, and Phil Jackson are gone, then it might be a different story.

Wow you must really hate the lakers...

tucker342 · 05-11-2003, 04:37 PM

Lakers ahead by one with 10 mins left

tucker342 · 05-11-2003, 05:19 PM

LAKERS WIN!!!

TroyF · 05-11-2003, 05:26 PM

Then the free throws start. . .

I know there is a lot of Laker haters here (as well as some fans) You guys are just going to have to hit the realization: As long as the NBA wants the Lakers to win, they'll win. The Spurs did everything they had to do to win this game tonight. Held the Lakers to under 40% from the field, shot nearly 45% themselves. . . and watched the Lakers go to the line almost 50 times. Unbelievable.

Ummm. . . two quick memos guys: Throwing the ball in the air, taking two steps and catching it is called traveling. It's been in the rule book for about 100 years. Read your rule book. When a player has his arms straight up and another guy hits him in the stomach with an elbow, you don't give the guy with his arms straight up his 6th foul. Again, it's a very simple call, it's in the rule book. The real amazing thing? The Spurs were called for breathing on Shaq most of the game, yet when they fouled Fisher at the end of the game, the refs didn't call it and cost the Spurs 10 seconds. Nice.

All the Lakers have to do to win #4 is get the ball to Shaq in the post and have Kobe drive the ball the entire fourth quarter. They do that, they can put Larry, Curly and Moe out with em and it won't matter.

TroyF

MrBug708 · 05-11-2003, 09:39 PM

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All the Lakers have to do to win #4 is get the ball to Shaq in the post and have Kobe drive the ball the entire fourth quarter. They do that, they can put Larry, Curly and Moe out with em and it won't matter.

Care for some cheese?

TroyF · 05-11-2003, 10:08 PM

Mr. Bug,

Nah, already had some. Tell me the statement above isn't true.

Nevermind, you're a Laker fan. You're so blinded by it you couldn't see what's going on if it hit you over the head with a 2 iron. Like comparing last year's game 5 of the conference finals with game 6. Laughable.

TroyF

MrBug708 · 05-11-2003, 10:13 PM

Troy, who shot more foul shots in the game? Spurs need to suck it up and drive to the hole. Duncan will get the calls. He's the freaking MVP! Look at Game 1 when he was presented the trophy?!?

Its HOLE, not WHOLE Oy!

MrBug708 · 05-11-2003, 10:13 PM

Dola

Lakers were killed in Game 5 of last year vs the Kings. The Kings got every call. I doubt you even watched the game though. It was pathetic

TroyF · 05-11-2003, 10:31 PM

MrBug,

I watched the game. 2 of Shaq's 6 fouls were questionable in my mind. Two. The Kings shot 33 free throws in game #5 (Lakers had 23) In game 6, the Lakers shot 27 free throws in just the fourth quarter alone.

The funny thing about game 5 was that the Lakers actually had more free throw attempts than the Kings did in the second half of that game (17-15)

TroyF

heybrad · 05-12-2003, 01:12 AM

Why do some people throw out stats when it fits their argument and ignore stats when it doesnt fit their argument?

TroyF · 05-12-2003, 01:57 AM

HeyBrad,

Not sure. What stats am I missing? Game 1 of this series? I've already admitted the Spurs got more calls in that game, but also said the Lakers were their own worst enemies because Kobe didn't drive the ball and Shaq didn't touch it late. Had either of those occured, the FT discrepency wouldn't have been there.

What other games would I be missing? Has there ever been a game where an opposing team, in the Shaq/Kobe era, took 27 free throws in the final quarter of a game against the Lakers? How many times has a team ever had 40 FT attempts against them? I mean, what am I missing? The Lakers hadn't had a 40FT game in this years playoffs. . . until snagging two in a row after falling behind 2-0. Just an abnormality? I suppose. The stats from today's game were again amazing though. The Spurs beat the Lakers in every conceivable category outside of free throw attempts and the offensive boards Shaq kept pushing people off for (err, I mean hustled for, yeah, that's it. everyone gets 10 offensive rebounds in a game with 2 fouls called on them)

Just fanning the flames. I know you Laker fans will never agree with me. I know some people who don't care think I whine too much. I know many others don't care about basketball. I only know what I see. Today the better basketball team lost.

TroyF

Alf · 05-12-2003, 03:17 AM

hey TroyF, can I be Joe so I can play with Kobe and Shaq ?

LA has to feed Shaq with balls : easy game plan !

heybrad · 05-12-2003, 10:16 AM

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Originally posted by TroyF
HeyBrad,

Not sure. What stats am I missing? Game 1 of this series? I've already admitted the Spurs got more calls in that game, but also said the Lakers were their own worst enemies because Kobe didn't drive the ball and Shaq didn't touch it late. Had either of those occured, the FT discrepency wouldn't have been there.

TroyF

Lets look at this angle today. This is a chicken and egg argument. Is Kobe not driving to the basket causing him to get no calls... or... was Kobe driving to the basket, realizing that he's not getting any calls being on the road and all, and adjusts his game? Just something to think about. I'm pretty sure I know how you'll view this.

I fully expect the calls to shift to San Antonio for game 5. It would stick to how the series has gone up to this point. God forbid the Spurs actually win this series. It would completely blow out the conspiracy theory or does the conspiracy theory only apply when the Lakers win.

cuervo72 · 05-12-2003, 10:46 AM

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Originally posted by heybrad
Lets look at this angle today. This is a chicken and egg argument. Is Kobe not driving to the basket causing him to get no calls... or... was Kobe driving to the basket, realizing that he's not getting any calls being on the road and all, and adjusts his game? Just something to think about. I'm pretty sure I know how you'll view this.

I fully expect the calls to shift to San Antonio for game 5. It would stick to how the series has gone up to this point. God forbid the Spurs actually win this series. It would completely blow out the conspiracy theory or does the conspiracy theory only apply when the Lakers win.

The NBA should work on a conspiracy to form an Eastern Conference.

MylesKnight · 07-24-2003, 09:41 AM

Shouldn't this girl from the Mountains of Colorado actually be known as the real "Kobe-Stopper"?

(I know, I know, that was a bit of a low blow)..

Anrhydeddu · 07-24-2003, 09:42 AM

Wish she was able to stop Kobe.

CamEdwards · 07-24-2003, 09:55 AM

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Originally posted by MylesKnight
Shouldn't this girl from the Mountains of Colorado actually be known as the real "Kobe-Stopper"?

(I know, I know, that was a bit of a low blow)..

Skydog got a bunch of shit for smiling about the death of the Hussein Bros.

So what should happen to you for joking about an alleged rape?

Break out the tar and feathers, boyz!

MylesKnight · 07-24-2003, 09:56 AM

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Originally posted by CamEdwards
Skydog got a bunch of shit for smiling about the death of the Hussein Bros.

So what should happen to you for joking about an alleged rape?

Break out the tar and feathers, boyz!

Bring it on..

ice4277 · 07-24-2003, 09:57 AM

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Originally posted by MylesKnight
(I know, I know, that was a bit of a low blow)..

Yeah but from the sounds of it, that's what got her in trouble in the first place...

The_herd · 07-24-2003, 11:54 AM

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Originally posted by ice4277
Yeah but from the sounds of it, that's what got her in trouble in the first place...

........and someone goes even lower

The Afoci · 07-24-2003, 12:00 PM

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Originally posted by The_herd
........and someone goes even lower

He licked his ass, ew! That is just gross!

The_herd · 07-24-2003, 12:04 PM

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Originally posted by The Afoci
He licked his ass, ew! That is just gross!

Could you please elaborate on how that is possible.......actually, never mind, please don't. Forget this post ever existed.

The Afoci · 07-24-2003, 12:10 PM

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Originally posted by The_herd
Could you please elaborate on how that is possible.......actually, never mind, please don't. Forget this post ever existed.

Um, well, Kobe is on his back and he just starts licking lower and lower then BOOM, the man is at ass. Throw on some jelly and toss that salad.

I think I may or may not have mental issues, I will let the chipmunk decide.

He says no, so I am good.

05-07-2003, 11:17 PM	#2
bigdawg2003 High School Varsity Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Austin, Texas, USA	Yeah, Bowen was UNCONSCIOUS tonight. I have a hard time seeing the Lakers pull this one out. __________________ I didn't even know Elvis was from Memphis. I thought he was from Tennessee.

05-07-2003, 11:23 PM	#3
JeeberD General Manager Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Town of Flower Mound	I hate the Lakers!!!! __________________ UTEP Miners!!! I solemnly swear to never cheer for TO

05-10-2003, 12:30 PM	#11
JeeberD General Manager Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Town of Flower Mound	Two Super Bowls is a dynasty? Sorry, no... But I guess for a Dolphins fan two SB's must seem like an unimaginable dream... __________________ UTEP Miners!!! I solemnly swear to never cheer for TO

05-10-2003, 01:20 PM	#14
JeeberD General Manager Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Town of Flower Mound	I'm so sorry, Kodos. My memory must be going. Or is it just that I don't remember everything that happened 30 YEARS AGO... __________________ UTEP Miners!!! I solemnly swear to never cheer for TO

05-11-2003, 01:22 AM	#15
ACStrider High School JV Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Austin, TX	I'm a die hard Mavs fan, but if the Mavs losing was a requirement for the Lakers to be knocked out, I would take the Mavs and Lakers loss anyday...that is until Shaq, Kobe, and Phil Jackson are gone, then it might be a different story. __________________ "I'm evil." "Oh you are not!" "Oh I am too." -- Brak

05-07-2003, 11:26 PM	#4
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	Like those Kings and Blazers of the past? Guess George was more important than we though With the reign being disrupted, I hope we dont go one year routes with Pippen and Malone. Pippen is overated and Malone's been the Lakers nemesis for 18 years. Too bad we'll draft real high. Maybe a trade for Mr. Brand of the Clippers?!? So many questions. Shaw, Horry, Walker, and Mdvedenko are gone

05-07-2003, 11:34 PM	#5
AgPete College Prospect Join Date: Jan 2001	Kodos, you are on a mission to destroy the Cowboys. Are the Lakers on your agenda too? You are a one man dynasty fighting machine! __________________ Click here for the FOF2004 World Football League Dynasty (WFL) - Football Goes Global! OOTP5 Psychology Experiment (Incomplete but fun read for MLB fans.) The FOFC All-Time NFL Team - Voted on by FOFC members.

05-10-2003, 12:02 AM	#6
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	What happened to te Kobe stopper?

05-10-2003, 10:04 AM	#7
TroyF Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Actually, the Kobe stopper had a pretty good game stopping Kobe. Kobe got a lot of points on transition and a ton at the foul line. 19 free throw attempts. Still, he shot 10-23 from the floor, which the Spurs will take anyday of the week. The problem the Spurs had was that nobody could hit a shot outside of Duncan. The other guys shot 27% from the floor. (the other starters were 20% from the floor) Most of the misses were open J's that didn't go down. Those misses led to transition baskets. All in all, everything went right for the Lakers. They shot 50%+ from the floor, went to the line 40 times, held the Spurs to 40% from the floor and had 21 assists. That makes the series 1-0 (Lakers) when everything goes right for the Lakers, 1-0 (Spurs) when everything goes right for the Spurs and 1-0 (Spurs) when both teams suck. TroyF

05-10-2003, 11:38 AM	#8
heybrad Norm!!! Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Manassas, VA	Forget about the Kobe-stopper. How about the Ref-Stopper, Jack Nicholson.

05-10-2003, 12:04 PM	#9
tucker342 Pro Starter Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Iowa City, IA	That was great

05-10-2003, 12:20 PM	#10
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	They should have thrown him out. Just because you're a celebrity doesn't give you a free pass to be an ass. Nobody was predicting a sweep here. Go Spurs. BTW, I don't mind good dynasties, like the late-nineties Broncos. But the Lakers must die.

05-10-2003, 12:35 PM	#12
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	Um. Only undefeated season in league history. The Cowboys are probably a pretty good team in the jail league.

05-10-2003, 12:43 PM	#13
heybrad Norm!!! Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Manassas, VA	Aliens become very bitter when they dont win titles.

05-11-2003, 04:37 PM	#18
tucker342 Pro Starter Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Iowa City, IA	Lakers ahead by one with 10 mins left

05-11-2003, 05:19 PM	#19
tucker342 Pro Starter Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Iowa City, IA	LAKERS WIN!!!

05-11-2003, 05:26 PM	#20
TroyF Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Then the free throws start. . . I know there is a lot of Laker haters here (as well as some fans) You guys are just going to have to hit the realization: As long as the NBA wants the Lakers to win, they'll win. The Spurs did everything they had to do to win this game tonight. Held the Lakers to under 40% from the field, shot nearly 45% themselves. . . and watched the Lakers go to the line almost 50 times. Unbelievable. Ummm. . . two quick memos guys: Throwing the ball in the air, taking two steps and catching it is called traveling. It's been in the rule book for about 100 years. Read your rule book. When a player has his arms straight up and another guy hits him in the stomach with an elbow, you don't give the guy with his arms straight up his 6th foul. Again, it's a very simple call, it's in the rule book. The real amazing thing? The Spurs were called for breathing on Shaq most of the game, yet when they fouled Fisher at the end of the game, the refs didn't call it and cost the Spurs 10 seconds. Nice. All the Lakers have to do to win #4 is get the ball to Shaq in the post and have Kobe drive the ball the entire fourth quarter. They do that, they can put Larry, Curly and Moe out with em and it won't matter. TroyF

05-11-2003, 10:08 PM	#22
TroyF Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Mr. Bug, Nah, already had some. Tell me the statement above isn't true. Nevermind, you're a Laker fan. You're so blinded by it you couldn't see what's going on if it hit you over the head with a 2 iron. Like comparing last year's game 5 of the conference finals with game 6. Laughable. TroyF

05-11-2003, 10:13 PM	#23
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	Troy, who shot more foul shots in the game? Spurs need to suck it up and drive to the hole. Duncan will get the calls. He's the freaking MVP! Look at Game 1 when he was presented the trophy?!? Its HOLE, not WHOLE Oy! Last edited by MrBug708 : 05-11-2003 at 10:15 PM.

05-11-2003, 10:31 PM	#25
TroyF Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	MrBug, I watched the game. 2 of Shaq's 6 fouls were questionable in my mind. Two. The Kings shot 33 free throws in game #5 (Lakers had 23) In game 6, the Lakers shot 27 free throws in just the fourth quarter alone. The funny thing about game 5 was that the Lakers actually had more free throw attempts than the Kings did in the second half of that game (17-15) TroyF

05-12-2003, 01:12 AM	#26
heybrad Norm!!! Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Manassas, VA	Why do some people throw out stats when it fits their argument and ignore stats when it doesnt fit their argument?

05-12-2003, 01:57 AM	#27
TroyF Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	HeyBrad, Not sure. What stats am I missing? Game 1 of this series? I've already admitted the Spurs got more calls in that game, but also said the Lakers were their own worst enemies because Kobe didn't drive the ball and Shaq didn't touch it late. Had either of those occured, the FT discrepency wouldn't have been there. What other games would I be missing? Has there ever been a game where an opposing team, in the Shaq/Kobe era, took 27 free throws in the final quarter of a game against the Lakers? How many times has a team ever had 40 FT attempts against them? I mean, what am I missing? The Lakers hadn't had a 40FT game in this years playoffs. . . until snagging two in a row after falling behind 2-0. Just an abnormality? I suppose. The stats from today's game were again amazing though. The Spurs beat the Lakers in every conceivable category outside of free throw attempts and the offensive boards Shaq kept pushing people off for (err, I mean hustled for, yeah, that's it. everyone gets 10 offensive rebounds in a game with 2 fouls called on them) Just fanning the flames. I know you Laker fans will never agree with me. I know some people who don't care think I whine too much. I know many others don't care about basketball. I only know what I see. Today the better basketball team lost. TroyF

05-12-2003, 03:17 AM	#28
Alf Pro Starter Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Rennes, France	hey TroyF, can I be Joe so I can play with Kobe and Shaq ? LA has to feed Shaq with balls : easy game plan ! __________________ FOFL - GML - IHOF - FranceStats

07-24-2003, 09:41 AM	#31
MylesKnight College Benchwarmer Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Neptune Beach, Florida	Shouldn't this girl from the Mountains of Colorado actually be known as the real "Kobe-Stopper"? (I know, I know, that was a bit of a low blow).. __________________ IT'S ALL ABOUT THE BLACK & GOLD!!

07-24-2003, 09:42 AM	#32
Anrhydeddu Resident Curmudgeon Join Date: Oct 2002	Wish she was able to stop Kobe.

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