2014 NFL Regular Season, Week 7

[Abe Sargent]

Enter the Browns.

Are we going to see two ties this year?

[JPhillips]

I thought the NFL was moving past this stupid walk it off mentality towards concussions. From Marvin Lewis:

"I coached defenses and linebackers for a long time and concussions didn't linger," Lewis told reporters on Wednesday. "Now we have found that because of the media and things they seem to linger longer. There's a lot of attention paid to it. I don't know why they linger longer. I don't remember them lingering like they do now."

[gstelmack]

There was a lot of talk on local sports radio about that, very very stupid thing for Marvin Lewis to say.

The key, Marvin, is we now have research that shows they linger well past the stage where you used to think they lingered...

[Grover]

Tom-Tom Brady...

[EagleFan]

Am I the only one that just walked up and smacked their TV? It's just a pavlovian response to seeing that guy, some people just have this look that make you want to smack them upside the head.

[DaddyTorgo]

Fucking run defense Patriots. Jeezus.

[jeff061]

It's very frustrating, they always seem to be in position but can't quite make the play.

[Lathum]

I bet a coworker lunch today, who is a Browns fan, that the Browns would lose one of the next 3 games vs the Raiders, JAgs, and Buccs.

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by jeff061

It's very frustrating, they always seem to be in position but can't quite make the play.

Maybe the effect of the short week coupled with losing Mayo?

[Abe Sargent]

Could the Jets actually pull this out

[DaddyTorgo]

WOW

3rd and Goal from the 19 and Brady scrambles and finds Amendola who catches the ball behind him while in mid-jump and comes down in the endzone.

[Abe Sargent]

Jets answer - can they get that conversion?

[DaddyTorgo]

It's disgusting to me that the Jets are still in this game.

[Abe Sargent]

Nope!

[DaddyTorgo]

Ugh

[EagleFan]

This is ugly two minute offense, they have no right even having a chance.

[EagleFan]

So well done by the Jets on that drive? What was the announcer smoking?

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by EagleFan

This is ugly two minute offense, they have no right even having a chance.

Was pretty ugly the Pats couldn't get a first down with 2:33 left in order to kill the game off too though.

[Butter]

Originally Posted by EagleFan

So well done by the Jets on that drive? What was the announcer smoking?

Crack. He was smoking crack.

[Galaril]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

Was pretty ugly the Pats couldn't get a first down with 2:33 left in order to kill the game off too though.

Won't complain if that is the Pats team that shows up in two and half weeks at Gillette against the Broncos:-)

[SteveMax58]

As much as its fun to pick on Rex...I don't know what more I'd expect from this Jets team than what he's done. Sure you don't want them at 1-6, but given their schedule so far, its certainly not totally unexpected.

I mean, lets be honest here. Gino Smith is NOT an Andrew Luck talent that is just not being groomed along well enough. While I wouldn't put all of the losses on him necessarily, there is a ceiling on what he can do to actually win games (not just "not lose them"). And I'm not so sure his ceiling is much higher than what we've seen.

2000 Ravens scenarios aside....I don't understand what Jets ownership could possibly be thinking Rex should be doing better (assuming they do fire him). I mean, that was the way it worked in the 80s, 90s, and into the 00s...but I thought we've learned from the coaching carousels of those days to know when the coach is to blame vs "we just aren't a good enough team". I guess thats why they are still the Jets.

[stevew]

I can't imagine any scenario where I'd watch the jets play

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by Galaril

Won't complain if that is the Pats team that shows up in two and half weeks at Gillette against the Broncos:-)

My expectations are low. They made Geno Smith look like a legit NFL QB last night.

[Julio Riddols]

I think Geno has potential to be something, but I feel like the OC in New York has no idea how to craft an offense to suit his strengths.. They do have a strong run game this year, a nice one two punch, but the defense is done. They're not even average. If this was the old Jets D with the current offense, they might actually be a threat like when they went to the playoffs with Sanchez.

[Galaril]

Did referee help New England Patriots avoid penalty on blocked field goal? | Shutdown Corner - Yahoo Sports

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by Galaril

Did referee help New England Patriots avoid penalty on blocked field goal? | Shutdown Corner - Yahoo Sports

What a clickbait headline.

[Arles]

That's stupid. Refs do stuff like that every game. If the goal of a penalty is to avoid situations that may cause injuries - I'd be upset if the refs didn't atleast try to remove that situation from the start. I'm no Pats fan, but I agree it is pure clickbait.

[Arles]

Dola, I also think it's a stupid penalty to begin with. If you're going to have a penalty to prevent defenders from getting into situations where they may injure someone - I would think outlawing a corner blitz would be more useful. Plenty of QBs (ie, Troy Aikman and Steve Young) have suffered brutal concussions as a result of blind side CB blitzes. Of course, this is football and the point is often to hit the opponent hard. So, the idea of penalizing where someone lines up because they "may" do an illegal hit is a little silly.

[BishopMVP]

Originally Posted by Galaril

Won't complain if that is the Pats team that shows up in two and half weeks at Gillette against the Broncos:-)

We've got a tough 6 game stretch coming up... I'm guessing we go at least 3-3, but no idea which ones we win.

[jeff061]

Pats and Jets games always seem to reference an oddity in results. I'm not panicking, yet.

[Buccaneer]

If the Pats can beat Miami and Buffalo, they'll be in good shape for the division again. How that will result for an AFC seeding, I don't know.

[BishopMVP]

Originally Posted by jeff061

Pats and Jets games always seem to reference an oddity in results. I'm not panicking, yet.

I'm not panicking... I could just easily see us beating Denver or winning at Indy and SD while losing to Chicago or Detroit. Even 2-4 in that stretch puts us at 7-6 with games vs Buffalo/Miami/Jets to close it out.

[kingfc22]

Percy Harvin to the Jets? Per Jay Glazer.

Wow...

Guess it's Carroll who's losing the locker room in the NFC West.

[Super Ugly]

Wow.

[Solecismic]

I would really like to know what the Jets gave up. The Seahawks spent a lot last year to get him, and have used him effectively.

[SegRat]

That's crazy.

[SegRat]

Seattle will receive a conditional draft pick in 2015, which will range from a second- to fourth-round pick, a source told ESPN's John Clayton.

[Galaril]

Originally Posted by SegRat

That's crazy.

Yes that is crazy.Might be bad news for the rest of the AFC East. They got on one side Decker and Harvin on the other.

[Solecismic]

Cap reasons are completely out, unless the Seahawks want to turn around and trade for someone expensive.

Is Harvin putting in the work? Well, he's getting 7.4 TAs (touch attempts) per game and that has generated enough yardage and chance for the big play that opponents have to game-plan against his specific contributions from the slot.

He is slightly injured, but not enough that the Jets have a problem acquiring $6 million worth of salary for this season.

He must be a tremendous PITA in the locker room. Either that, or the conditional is likely to be the 2 and the Seahawks were hoping for more of a deep threat.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by Solecismic

I would really like to know what the Jets gave up. The Seahawks spent a lot last year to get him, and have used him effectively.

Harvin has 22 receptions for 133 yards and no touchdowns. He also has 92 rushing yards on 11 carries.

you really consider that effective?

[MikeVic]

I think you can definitely argue that he was a dynamic threat in the offense and even if stats aren't nuts, teams had to consider him in game planning. Now he's gone and they don't have anything to replace that... And this is a team that had the talent to win the super bowl. I think it's pretty weird, and can only really see it if he's the biggest headache in the locker room.

[stevew]

That 2nd rounder is likely to be in the 30s. I like Seattle's receivers. If he's truly a pain in the ass, moving him is a no brainer.

[BillJasper]

Originally Posted by stevew

That 2nd rounder is likely to be in the 30s. I like Seattle's receivers. If he's truly a pain in the ass, moving him is a no brainer.

I don't think this damages Seattle's chances of repeating.

[BillJasper]

Harvin feels like a 'fuck you' to the next GM/Head Coach combo of the Jets.

[stevew]

Hopefully Winston to the Jets happens just so they can keep their plans to be the east coast version of the Raiders alive.

[Thomkal]

As a Cardinal fan, I am very glad Seattle traded Harvin before my beloved Cardinals had to play them this season.

Seems to be a bit of bizarre timing by the Jets coming off a loss that sent them to 1-6. Jets likely have to get to 9-7 to have a chance to make the playoffs, and with a shaky QB starting, not sure how much this will help them reach that goal. Though maybe they are looking at this as a move for the future rather than this season.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...e-percy-harvin

[evil homer]

harvin has no guaranteed money after this year, and the jets had $20 million in cap space left this year, so absorbing the approx 6-7 million left this year is no problem. they can cut him at the end of the year with no cap hit, and if he's so bad, the conditional will probably be a 4th and that is worth the shot on a talent like harvin. if he's good, they could always renegotiate the deal to make it more team friendly if they want to keep him around.

[JPhillips]

If the Jets don't keep him long term it's a wasted draft pick. They aren't going anywhere this year, so this deal is silly unless it's for the future.

[Abe Sargent]

Originally Posted by JPhillips

If the Jets don't keep him long term it's a wasted draft pick. They aren't going anywhere this year, so this deal is silly unless it's for the future.

Eric Decker needs someone across from him to do stuff. This is the sort of move they should have done all along. Its low risk at this point, though, even if oit doesn;t pan out long term.

[BishopMVP]

Originally Posted by Solecismic

Cap reasons are completely out, unless the Seahawks want to turn around and trade for someone expensive.

Is Harvin putting in the work? Well, he's getting 7.4 TAs (touch attempts) per game and that has generated enough yardage and chance for the big play that opponents have to game-plan against his specific contributions from the slot.

He is slightly injured, but not enough that the Jets have a problem acquiring $6 million worth of salary for this season.

He must be a tremendous PITA in the locker room. Either that, or the conditional is likely to be the 2 and the Seahawks were hoping for more of a deep threat.

This was definitely done for cap reasons, albeit going forward, not this season. Sherman, Thomas and Chancellor got their big deals, and Wilson and the whole LB core all need new contracts by 2016 (plus guys like Lynch and Okung who aren't really underpaid.) Somebody had to go, and waiting until the offseason to choose Harvin would have added $5m to their 2016 cap. (There is also the extra few million they can now add on to their 2015 cap via rollover, but I'll admit I don't fully understand that.)