FOF8 on a Mac

Pyser · 11-23-2016, 10:34 AM

I got FOF7 to work through Wine pretty easily on my mac. Now that FOF8 looks like it's exclusively through Steam, I thought this might be a good place for us all to put our heads together to get it to run.

I used Wineskin for FOF7, which was 80% great (had to import/export through external FTP client for multiplayer, and never got box scores to open).

Please share any tips or success stories getting FOF8 running through Steam on your mac.

SegRat · 11-23-2016, 11:35 AM

I'm going to try it on Parrallels.

nilodor · 11-23-2016, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by SegRat

I'm going to try it on Parrallels.

+1

ezlee2 · 11-23-2016, 12:24 PM

I use VMWare Fusion and have for years

kcchief19 · 11-23-2016, 04:45 PM

I had no problems with FOF7 digital release using CrossOver, but never got it to work with the Steam version. I'm on Parallels 11 with Windows 10 now though and plan to try that with FOF8.

SegRat · 11-23-2016, 05:08 PM

Seems to be working using parallels

Pyser · 11-23-2016, 05:16 PM

Wineskin was giving me major problems, but I found PlayOnMac which worked, and was still free.

The guide in the link below was set up to install a different game, but it's the program that got me into Steam (vs WineSkin, which didn't)

Once you do this and actually run Steam, be prepared to wait a while (maybe up to a half hour?) while it updates Steam or pretends to update or whatever. It took a long time, but finally worked. Once it worked, I quit and reloaded Steam and it logged in right away. So was just that first time. Enjoy, mac users!

Steam Community :: Guide :: Playing on Mac using Wine (No Bootcamp, No VM)

totoro · 11-23-2016, 07:47 PM

Have FOF8 installed on Parallels and running.

digamma · 11-23-2016, 08:13 PM

For the folks using Parallels, are you using a separate version of steam you download through the Windows virtual machine or are you able to just buy and download through the mac version and then run the program in Parallels?

SegRat · 11-23-2016, 08:49 PM

No I installed steam on Parellel and purchased FOF8 that way.

kcchief19 · 11-23-2016, 09:19 PM

Running on Parallels 11 with Windows 10 with relatively no issues. Little sluggish opening up the browser for box scores the first time. My resources were a bit stressed tough because I had a few other things open and Windows was running updates.

Had issue with FOF7 with the scoreboard, but all appears well for now.

digamma · 11-24-2016, 06:22 AM

Also running smoothly using Parallels now.

Squirrel · 11-25-2016, 03:44 AM

Appreciate this isn't what you're asking Pyser but I play FOF on a Mac through boot camp. Fine for FOF 8 just as it was for 7.

It does look though like my 2011 MacBook Air is starting to get a bit outgunned by FOF 8. 50 year quick sim attempts are not for the faint hearted.

Logan · 11-25-2016, 08:11 AM

I've been Mac only at home for a while now. Just ordered a Chromebook. Will I be able to play this new version on it? I'm so out of the loop on computer gaming.

lungs · 11-25-2016, 08:41 AM

I skipped the last version of FOF. Couldn't resist this time. Pulled out an old cheap HP laptop and FOF8 works fine on there. But my goodness, I would much prefer to play on my Mac without jumping through hoops.

henry296 · 11-28-2016, 12:53 PM

Thanks for the PlayOnMac tip. I installed it and then steam and then bought FOF8. No issues so far on a new MacBook Air.

Icy · 11-28-2016, 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pyser

Wineskin was giving me major problems, but I found PlayOnMac which worked, and was still free.

The guide in the link below was set up to install a different game, but it's the program that got me into Steam (vs WineSkin, which didn't)

Once you do this and actually run Steam, be prepared to wait a while (maybe up to a half hour?) while it updates Steam or pretends to update or whatever. It took a long time, but finally worked. Once it worked, I quit and reloaded Steam and it logged in right away. So was just that first time. Enjoy, mac users!

Steam Community :: Guide :: Playing on Mac using Wine (No Bootcamp, No VM)

Awesome thanks!! installing FOF8 and some windows wargames using this!

I have windows 10 in bootcamp installed but hate to reboot every time.

henry296 · 11-29-2016, 07:23 AM

For those using PlayOnMac, are you able to see the play diagrams or the field when watching a game?

lungs · 11-29-2016, 01:50 PM

Ok, PlayonMac was hardly jumping through hoops. It's great to be able to play FOF on Mac!

fortheglory · 12-02-2016, 02:41 AM

Does anyone have a step by step guide of instructions on exactly how to use playonmac? I'm not very computer savvy. Any help is greatly apppreciated.

henry296 · 12-02-2016, 07:39 AM

1. Go to playonmac.com and download and install the application. It asked me to install something else.
2. Launch playonmac application
3. Install Steam from PlayOnMac.
4. Purchase FOF
5. Launch PlayOnMac and open steam.
6. Select FOF from within Steam and select Play.

fortheglory · 12-02-2016, 08:30 AM

Ok...my question is this? I already have steam installed, and have other games I use on my mac platform. Does this matter? Do I have to uninstall steam?

lungs · 12-02-2016, 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fortheglory

Ok...my question is this? I already have steam installed, and have other games I use on my mac platform. Does this matter? Do I have to uninstall steam?

No, you will have two versions of Steam, one will run through PlayonMac

fortheglory · 12-02-2016, 12:20 PM

Ok...thank you very much

fortheglory · 12-02-2016, 06:18 PM

One more question if you don't mind...will it be possible to ultizile mods such as logos and such?

lungs · 12-02-2016, 07:17 PM

Haven't tried that yet....

fortheglory · 12-02-2016, 08:18 PM

there must be a way....just need to locate the proper folders

fortheglory · 12-02-2016, 08:40 PM

I found a way...from playitonmac...go to open the directory....to "steamapps"...go to "common"...then to FOF 8 and to pictures.

bigkarlo1 · 12-10-2016, 10:21 AM

I use Crossover with no issues yet.

Pyser · 12-12-2016, 11:35 AM

Anyone up and running in a FOF8 multiplayer league on a mac?

Had to use FTP to import stage files in last version, but having problems with FTP in new version. Looking for a little help.

AboveNiagara · 12-21-2016, 12:29 AM

Anyone else having trouble getting the scoreboard / play diagrams to show up? I've tried running FOF8 via Crossover and PlayOnMac and everything works fine except for that. I even tried subbing out the scoreboard.bmp file for a custom one I saw on this forum...basically same result (I see a tiny image in top right where scoreboard should be. Was black before, now red).

Anyone have any ideas how to fix?

I'm on a Macbook Air from a couple years ago but can't imagine these lo-tech graphics are an issue.

Ben E Lou · 12-21-2016, 04:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pyser

Anyone up and running in a FOF8 multiplayer league on a mac?

Had to use FTP to import stage files in last version, but having problems with FTP in new version. Looking for a little help.

I've realized the issue with this: the files are now being compressed, which is great for upload/download speeds, but (apparently) not helpful for people using an FTP client. Apparently FOF8 is taking care of the compression/decompression as part of the upload/download processes.

I'll be re-instituting the auto-backup process in my leagues, which will mean that a zip file will automatically be uploaded as part of the regular sim process. Worse-case scenario is that you can grab that file and unzip it into the /leagues folder, FOF2K7-style. We'll find out later today, I guess, if the in-game FTP works for you post Allocation Draft.

henry296 · 12-21-2016, 07:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AboveNiagara

Anyone else having trouble getting the scoreboard / play diagrams to show up? I've tried running FOF8 via Crossover and PlayOnMac and everything works fine except for that. I even tried subbing out the scoreboard.bmp file for a custom one I saw on this forum...basically same result (I see a tiny image in top right where scoreboard should be. Was black before, now red).

Anyone have any ideas how to fix?

I'm on a Macbook Air from a couple years ago but can't imagine these lo-tech graphics are an issue.

Same issue for me on PlayOnMac.

Pyser · 12-22-2016, 01:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ben E Lou

I've realized the issue with this: the files are now being compressed, which is great for upload/download speeds, but (apparently) not helpful for people using an FTP client. Apparently FOF8 is taking care of the compression/decompression as part of the upload/download processes.

I'll be re-instituting the auto-backup process in my leagues, which will mean that a zip file will automatically be uploaded as part of the regular sim process. Worse-case scenario is that you can grab that file and unzip it into the /leagues folder, FOF2K7-style. We'll find out later today, I guess, if the in-game FTP works for you post Allocation Draft.

great news, thanks ben! i dont see the zip in todays file, will check again tomorrow

Ben E Lou · 12-22-2016, 05:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pyser

great news, thanks ben! i dont see the zip in todays file, will check again tomorrow

It's now linked from the top of the forum.

CCFL Forum

Index of /files

Ben E Lou · 12-22-2016, 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ben E Lou

I'll be re-instituting the auto-backup process in my leagues, which will mean that a zip file will automatically be uploaded as part of the regular sim process. Worse-case scenario is that you can grab that file and unzip it into the /leagues folder, FOF2K7-style. We'll find out later today, I guess, if the in-game FTP works for you post Allocation Draft.

To pyser...

1. Did you try importing in-game and that failed?
2. The good news is that having to pull some of the files (instead of all of them like I could when they were in the /export directory uncompressed) for copying forced me to move them *somewhere* on my local drive before uploading them to the server, so it seemed logical to make that a dropbox folder, which of course means that everything gets backed up.

Pyser · 12-22-2016, 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ben E Lou

To pyser...

1. Did you try importing in-game and that failed?
2. The good news is that having to pull some of the files (instead of all of them like I could when they were in the /export directory uncompressed) for copying forced me to move them *somewhere* on my local drive before uploading them to the server, so it seemed logical to make that a dropbox folder, which of course means that everything gets backed up.

1. Yes, any time I hit import I get "Import Succeeded. But no saved game was downloaded from the server. Please check with your commissioner."

2. GREATLY appreciated Ben. Sorry this is a such a pain. If this is an easy enough workaround for you (in multiple leagues) allowing me to stay in them, I'd be thrilled. If it's a pain in the butt every single export in 2-3 leagues just for me (well, and one other GML owner I know of), then I understand.

Pyser · 12-22-2016, 08:54 AM

This worked Ben, up and running!

Ben E Lou · 12-22-2016, 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pyser

2. GREATLY appreciated Ben. Sorry this is a such a pain. If this is an easy enough workaround for you (in multiple leagues) allowing me to stay in them, I'd be thrilled. If it's a pain in the butt every single export in 2-3 leagues just for me (well, and one other GML owner I know of), then I understand.

Not a huge deal. To be clear, all of this...

Quote:

2. The good news is that having to pull some of the files (instead of all of them like I could when they were in the /export directory uncompressed) for copying forced me to move them *somewhere* on my local drive before uploading them to the server, so it seemed logical to make that a dropbox folder, which of course means that everything gets backed up."

...is being done via code now. I spent a little over an hour this morning researching/coding/testing how to do it, but it's now done, will be used for today's midweek file, and it'll take like 5 minutes each to implement it for FOOL/GML/IHOF when the time comes for them. After that initial investment of time, it ends up being one extra click per sim to generate the zip file.

fortheglory · 12-22-2016, 04:34 PM

Can't get the graphics to work at all...so I guess I made a donation. For anyone wondering if FOF works on mac...the answer is "sort" of, but not really.

yabanci · 12-22-2016, 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fortheglory

Can't get the graphics to work at all...so I guess I made a donation. For anyone wondering if FOF works on mac...the answer is "sort" of, but not really.

maybe make a donation to Parallels if you can stomach it. Works fine with no hassle.

you can get version 11, which is what I use, for $30 right now (the thieves want $80 for ver. 12).

http://amzn.to/2hY1xFh

Pyser · 12-22-2016, 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yabanci

maybe make a donation to Parallels if you can stomach it. Works fine with no hassle.

you can get version 11, which is what I use, for $30 right now (the thieves want $80 for ver. 12).

Amazon.com: Parallels Desktop 11 for Mac

are you set up in any mp leagues? if so, does parallels work in game for importing and exporting?

yabanci · 12-22-2016, 11:34 PM

no, only single player so haven't tried it. Can't imagine it wouldn't work though. In three years I haven't come across anything that doesn't work exactly the same as on my windows pc.

Hobart · 12-23-2016, 01:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pyser

are you set up in any mp leagues? if so, does parallels work in game for importing and exporting?

I use parallels and have had no problem so far with CCFL in game imports and exports.

digamma · 12-23-2016, 07:07 AM

I also have played MP successfully on a Mac.

Pyser · 12-23-2016, 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by digamma

I also have played MP successfully on a Mac.

with fof8?

digamma · 12-23-2016, 11:25 AM

Yes, well, I've downloaded and uploaded a stage file successfully via the in game FTP.

Pyser · 12-23-2016, 11:30 AM

good to know. ben cracked the problem for importing in fof8 on a mac, but my first export was corrupt. 2nd worked. if problems persist, i'll switch to parallels

fortheglory · 12-24-2016, 04:45 AM

the only issue with parallels, is I believe it creates a partian in the hard drive ( I think) and that's not something I would want to do. Can anyone confirm?

TAFIV · 12-24-2016, 05:07 AM

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Originally Posted by fortheglory

the only issue with parallels, is I believe it creates a partian in the hard drive ( I think) and that's not something I would want to do. Can anyone confirm?

that's not actually possible, to make a new partition on a drive would require you to format the drive which would then require you to reinstall your OS.

i don't use it, but if anything it may be creating a virtual drive on your computer which is plausible since its emulating an entire operating system

11-23-2016, 11:35 AM	#2
SegRat High School Varsity Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Oshkosh, WI	I'm going to try it on Parrallels. __________________ USFL: Charlotte Fightn' Squirrels

11-23-2016, 05:08 PM	#6
SegRat High School Varsity Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Oshkosh, WI	Seems to be working using parallels __________________ USFL: Charlotte Fightn' Squirrels

11-23-2016, 08:49 PM	#10
SegRat High School Varsity Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Oshkosh, WI	No I installed steam on Parellel and purchased FOF8 that way. __________________ USFL: Charlotte Fightn' Squirrels

11-25-2016, 03:44 AM	#13
Squirrel Mascot Join Date: Jul 2016	Appreciate this isn't what you're asking Pyser but I play FOF on a Mac through boot camp. Fine for FOF 8 just as it was for 7. It does look though like my 2011 MacBook Air is starting to get a bit outgunned by FOF 8. 50 year quick sim attempts are not for the faint hearted. Last edited by Squirrel : 11-25-2016 at 03:45 AM.

11-28-2016, 12:53 PM	#16
henry296 College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Pittsburgh, PA	Thanks for the PlayOnMac tip. I installed it and then steam and then bought FOF8. No issues so far on a new MacBook Air. __________________ "It's a great day for hockey" - "Badger" Bob Johnson

11-23-2016, 12:24 PM	#4
ezlee2 n00b Join Date: May 2006	I use VMWare Fusion and have for years

11-23-2016, 04:45 PM	#5
kcchief19 Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Kansas City, MO	I had no problems with FOF7 digital release using CrossOver, but never got it to work with the Steam version. I'm on Parallels 11 with Windows 10 now though and plan to try that with FOF8.

11-23-2016, 05:16 PM	#7
Pyser Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Los Angeles	Wineskin was giving me major problems, but I found PlayOnMac which worked, and was still free. The guide in the link below was set up to install a different game, but it's the program that got me into Steam (vs WineSkin, which didn't) Once you do this and actually run Steam, be prepared to wait a while (maybe up to a half hour?) while it updates Steam or pretends to update or whatever. It took a long time, but finally worked. Once it worked, I quit and reloaded Steam and it logged in right away. So was just that first time. Enjoy, mac users! Steam Community :: Guide :: Playing on Mac using Wine (No Bootcamp, No VM)

11-23-2016, 07:47 PM	#8
totoro n00b Join Date: Aug 2004	Have FOF8 installed on Parallels and running.

11-23-2016, 08:13 PM	#9
digamma Torchbearer Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: On Lake Harriet	For the folks using Parallels, are you using a separate version of steam you download through the Windows virtual machine or are you able to just buy and download through the mac version and then run the program in Parallels?

11-23-2016, 09:19 PM	#11
kcchief19 Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Kansas City, MO	Running on Parallels 11 with Windows 10 with relatively no issues. Little sluggish opening up the browser for box scores the first time. My resources were a bit stressed tough because I had a few other things open and Windows was running updates. Had issue with FOF7 with the scoreboard, but all appears well for now.

11-24-2016, 06:22 AM	#12
digamma Torchbearer Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: On Lake Harriet	Also running smoothly using Parallels now.

11-25-2016, 08:11 AM	#14
Logan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: NYC	I've been Mac only at home for a while now. Just ordered a Chromebook. Will I be able to play this new version on it? I'm so out of the loop on computer gaming.

11-25-2016, 08:41 AM	#15
lungs Pro Rookie Join Date: May 2002 Location: Prairie du Sac, WI	I skipped the last version of FOF. Couldn't resist this time. Pulled out an old cheap HP laptop and FOF8 works fine on there. But my goodness, I would much prefer to play on my Mac without jumping through hoops.

11-29-2016, 07:23 AM	#18
henry296 College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Pittsburgh, PA	For those using PlayOnMac, are you able to see the play diagrams or the field when watching a game? __________________ "It's a great day for hockey" - "Badger" Bob Johnson

11-29-2016, 01:50 PM	#19
lungs Pro Rookie Join Date: May 2002 Location: Prairie du Sac, WI	Ok, PlayonMac was hardly jumping through hoops. It's great to be able to play FOF on Mac!

12-02-2016, 02:41 AM	#20
fortheglory Mascot Join Date: Dec 2010	Does anyone have a step by step guide of instructions on exactly how to use playonmac? I'm not very computer savvy. Any help is greatly apppreciated.

12-02-2016, 07:39 AM	#21
henry296 College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Pittsburgh, PA	1. Go to playonmac.com and download and install the application. It asked me to install something else. 2. Launch playonmac application 3. Install Steam from PlayOnMac. 4. Purchase FOF 5. Launch PlayOnMac and open steam. 6. Select FOF from within Steam and select Play. __________________ "It's a great day for hockey" - "Badger" Bob Johnson

12-02-2016, 08:30 AM	#22
fortheglory Mascot Join Date: Dec 2010	Ok...my question is this? I already have steam installed, and have other games I use on my mac platform. Does this matter? Do I have to uninstall steam?

12-02-2016, 12:20 PM	#24
fortheglory Mascot Join Date: Dec 2010	Ok...thank you very much

12-02-2016, 06:18 PM	#25
fortheglory Mascot Join Date: Dec 2010	One more question if you don't mind...will it be possible to ultizile mods such as logos and such?

12-02-2016, 07:17 PM	#26
lungs Pro Rookie Join Date: May 2002 Location: Prairie du Sac, WI	Haven't tried that yet....

12-02-2016, 08:18 PM	#27
fortheglory Mascot Join Date: Dec 2010	there must be a way....just need to locate the proper folders

12-02-2016, 08:40 PM	#28
fortheglory Mascot Join Date: Dec 2010	I found a way...from playitonmac...go to open the directory....to "steamapps"...go to "common"...then to FOF 8 and to pictures.

12-10-2016, 10:21 AM	#29
bigkarlo1 n00b Join Date: Dec 2016	I use Crossover with no issues yet.

12-12-2016, 11:35 AM	#30
Pyser Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Los Angeles	Anyone up and running in a FOF8 multiplayer league on a mac? Had to use FTP to import stage files in last version, but having problems with FTP in new version. Looking for a little help.

12-21-2016, 12:29 AM	#31
AboveNiagara n00b Join Date: Dec 2016	Anyone else having trouble getting the scoreboard / play diagrams to show up? I've tried running FOF8 via Crossover and PlayOnMac and everything works fine except for that. I even tried subbing out the scoreboard.bmp file for a custom one I saw on this forum...basically same result (I see a tiny image in top right where scoreboard should be. Was black before, now red). Anyone have any ideas how to fix? I'm on a Macbook Air from a couple years ago but can't imagine these lo-tech graphics are an issue.

12-22-2016, 08:54 AM	#38
Pyser Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Los Angeles	This worked Ben, up and running!

12-22-2016, 04:34 PM	#40
fortheglory Mascot Join Date: Dec 2010	Can't get the graphics to work at all...so I guess I made a donation. For anyone wondering if FOF works on mac...the answer is "sort" of, but not really.

12-22-2016, 11:34 PM	#43
yabanci College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jun 2003	no, only single player so haven't tried it. Can't imagine it wouldn't work though. In three years I haven't come across anything that doesn't work exactly the same as on my windows pc.

12-23-2016, 07:07 AM	#45
digamma Torchbearer Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: On Lake Harriet	I also have played MP successfully on a Mac.

12-23-2016, 11:25 AM	#47
digamma Torchbearer Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: On Lake Harriet	Yes, well, I've downloaded and uploaded a stage file successfully via the in game FTP.

12-23-2016, 11:30 AM	#48
Pyser Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Los Angeles	good to know. ben cracked the problem for importing in fof8 on a mac, but my first export was corrupt. 2nd worked. if problems persist, i'll switch to parallels

12-24-2016, 04:45 AM	#49
fortheglory Mascot Join Date: Dec 2010	the only issue with parallels, is I believe it creates a partian in the hard drive ( I think) and that's not something I would want to do. Can anyone confirm?

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