How's this keeper...

BillyMadison · 05-30-2003, 04:44 PM

I've been told that since I'm not competing this season, and probably next for my Division Title... I could live with a high Inadequate goalie at age 24-27... Daedalus(sp?), said one wiht passable form around 100,000+ value would do... and I could get one for 10,000-15,000 $. First is this a good Idea, and second hows this guy look?

Paul Barrera (5512595)
24 years, passable form, healthy

A pleasant guy who is calm and honest.
Has wretched experience and poor leadership abilities.

Speciality: Unpredictable

Nationality: USA
Assessed value: 92 000 US$
Wage: 1 260 US$/week including 20% Bonus
Owner: FC Dylan
Warnings: 0

Stamina: excellent Goaltending: inadequate
Playmaking: disastrous Passing: disastrous
Winger: disastrous Defending: wretched
Scoring: disastrous Set Pieces: weak

BillyMadison · 05-30-2003, 04:51 PM

Heres another... I expect the price will go up a bit towards the deadline...

Miso Kovacevic (12088102)
25 years, weak form, healthy

A controversial person who is balanced and upright.
Has poor experience and solid leadership abilities.

Nationality: Hrvatska
Assessed value: 95 000 US$
Wage: 1 120 US$/week
Owner: Ramroders
Warnings: 0

Stamina: poor Goaltending: inadequate
Playmaking: wretched Passing: wretched
Winger: wretched Defending: wretched
Scoring: wretched Set Pieces: solid

BillyMadison · 05-30-2003, 04:55 PM

Here another one, a little younger and higher value...

2. Lasse Ragnarsson 22 500 US$ (opening price)
Belongs to: TUSE
Age: 23 years
Value: 117 000 US$
Deadline: 5/31/2003 at 18:09
Stamina: excellent Keeper: inadequate
Playmaking: disastrous Passing: disastrous
Winger: disastrous Defending: wretched
Scoring: disastrous Set Pieces: poor

FrogMan · 05-30-2003, 04:56 PM

I'm not sure I'd like having an "unpredictable" goalie... Other than that, he would be fine for your team. Look at my current keeper:

Ou Yang Yin-Hao (11693006)
18 years, solid form, healthy

A pleasant guy who is balanced and honest.
Has disastrous experience and inadequate leadership abilities.

Nationality: Canada
Assessed value: 182 000 C$ (that is 91k US$)
Wage: 1 840 C$/week
Owner: Pintendre Pittbulls
Warnings: 0

Stamina: poor Goaltending: inadequate
Playmaking: disastrous Passing: disastrous
Winger: wretched Defending: disastrous
Scoring: disastrous Set Pieces: disastrous

Not even worth 100k but he's giving me 2 stars every game he plays... Best of all, he was a youth pull... I'm waiting to pull a better one to make him my new starting keeper

FM

Nyarlahotep · 05-30-2003, 05:06 PM

I have to agree that an unpredictable would not be a good choice and the second is a drain on team spirit.

BillyMadison · 05-30-2003, 05:12 PM

Per Larsson (8746503)
23 years, poor form, healthy

A pleasant guy who is balanced and upright.
Has disastrous experience and weak leadership abilities.

Nationality: Sverige
Assessed value: 110 000 US$
Wage: 1 420 US$/week
Owner: FK Norra Järva
Warnings: 0

Stamina: wretched Goaltending: inadequate
Playmaking: disastrous Passing: disastrous
Winger: disastrous Defending: poor
Scoring: disastrous Set Pieces: disastrous

PilotMan · 05-30-2003, 05:18 PM

I notice that you are looking at a lot of international players. One thing to keep in mind is that 20% pay increase they are going to take when they come to the US and play. Inadequate keepers should be able to be found in plenty in the US and that can help keep your wages down.

BillyMadison · 05-30-2003, 05:24 PM

After searching the U.S.... i found nothing.

PilotMan · 05-30-2003, 05:28 PM

If you can wait on more week, I am sure there will be many inad youth pulls after tomarrow night. The only thing is the auctions won't end until after the next league match. O/w you're doin' fine.

BillyMadison · 05-30-2003, 05:33 PM

I don't want youth pulls... Looking for 24-27 year old guys, if im understanind you correctly.

GoldenEagle · 05-30-2003, 05:44 PM

Age has nothing to do with abillity.

dacman · 05-30-2003, 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BillyMadison
I don't want youth pulls... Looking for 24-27 year old guys, if im understanind you correctly.

Doesn't matter -- lots of vets hit the wire too after youth pulls because they've been replaced on the team.

illinifan999 · 05-30-2003, 05:52 PM

I remember playing this one guy who had an unpredictable keeper. One game he allowed one goal on maybe 6 chances. The next game he allowed 7 goals on 7 chances.

FrogMan · 05-30-2003, 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by illinifan999
I remember playing this one guy who had an unpredictable keeper. One game he allowed one goal on maybe 6 chances. The next game he allowed 7 goals on 7 chances.

Kind of like the Ron Hextall of Hattrick, very, very unpredictable

FM

Nyarlahotep · 05-30-2003, 06:07 PM

That last one looks good depending on the price.

FrogMan · 05-30-2003, 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Nyarlahotep
That last one looks good depending on the price.

Are you talking about that poor form one? if so, then I disagree. I always see a drop of two form level equals a drop of one main level for a given player. Read it somewhere around here, maybe from DataKing. Assuming that, that player who is three level below passable in form would be like a worst than weak keeper (inadequate minus 1.5 levels = middle between poor and weak)...

All that to say that an inadequate in passable form is nice, but I( wouldn't go below that kind of form...

FM

Nyarlahotep · 05-30-2003, 07:03 PM

If he is getting him for the long haul and has given up on this season (which he pretty much admitted to at the start of this thread) current form shouldn't matter too much, it is fairly easy to fix.

FrogMan · 05-30-2003, 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Nyarlahotep
If he is getting him for the long haul and has given up on this season (which he pretty much admitted to at the start of this thread) current form shouldn't matter too much, it is fairly easy to fix.

Yeah, but not all players will gain form, even with general training. I'm wary of players with bad form on the transfer markets. Some of them are incurable...

FM

BillyMadison · 05-30-2003, 07:54 PM

Stay away from weak form layers, eh? Thanks.

Im looking at slim-pickings though right now, I can wait a weak or two though.

FrogMan · 05-30-2003, 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BillyMadison
Stay away from weak form layers, eh? Thanks.

Im looking at slim-pickings though right now, I can wait a weak or two though.

Well, it's usually what I do. I've been wrong before, but I tell myself, why buy a player that will play a level or two below his abilities because of poor form. That holds true, uness the price is very good. Say you can get a inadequate keeper with the value you are looking for, but for about half the price you expect to pay, then you could gamble that his form could go up over the long term.

Even though you said you didn't want a youth pull, Monday and Tuesday are very good days to shop around, especially in bigger markets. Sometimes, there are so many players that almost identical that you can find some affordable players that fits exactly what you are looking for.

Good luck.

FM

Nyarlahotep · 05-30-2003, 08:13 PM

You can sometimes tell if they have a form problem by looking at their history, and I did say depending on price. I've gotten some good deals on players who lose form from riding the bench.

FrogMan · 05-30-2003, 08:32 PM

that is also true and I've tried that trick a few times, where I see a player in bad form going for cheap and when you look at his last match, you see a match that happened about a month ago...

FM

daedalus · 05-30-2003, 09:06 PM

As has been said, Tuesday is an awesome day to shop. Using an example in this thread . . . when Frogger pulls his solid keeper, he's likely to put his current keeper (above) up for sale. Unpredictable would be the one specialty I'd be leery with for a keeper.

FrogMan · 05-30-2003, 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by daedalus
As has been said, Tuesday is an awesome day to shop. Using an example in this thread . . . when Frogger pulls his solid keeper, he's likely to put his current keeper (above) up for sale.

Oh, man, how I'd looooove for that solid keeper pull to be true

FM

GoldenEagle · 05-30-2003, 10:54 PM

You may also want to wait and see if you can pull a high inadequate this week in your youth pull.

Bee · 05-31-2003, 07:15 AM

I have this guy for sell that might fit what you are looking for:

Code:

Marcin Kiwak (12169413)  
22 years, passable form, healthy  

A pleasant guy who is temperamental and dishonest.
Has disastrous experience and inadequate leadership abilities.

Nationality:  Polska  
Assessed value:  83 000  US$  
Wage:  1 224 US$/week  including 20% Bonus  
Owner:  Fairfax Fizz  
Warnings:  0  


Stamina:    wretched   Goaltending:    inadequate   
Playmaking:    disastrous   Passing:    disastrous   
Winger:    disastrous   Defending:    disastrous   
Scoring:    disastrous   Set Pieces:    passable

Nyarlahotep · 05-31-2003, 09:42 AM

I think he's looking for a high inadequate that he can get a steal on.

BillyMadison · 05-31-2003, 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Nyarlahotep
I think he's looking for a high inadequate that he can get a steal on.

Yea, Thanks.

05-30-2003, 04:56 PM	#4
FrogMan Hattrick Moderator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Pintendre, Qc, Canada	I'm not sure I'd like having an "unpredictable" goalie... Other than that, he would be fine for your team. Look at my current keeper: Ou Yang Yin-Hao (11693006) 18 years, solid form, healthy A pleasant guy who is balanced and honest. Has disastrous experience and inadequate leadership abilities. Nationality: Canada Assessed value: 182 000 C$ (that is 91k US$) Wage: 1 840 C$/week Owner: Pintendre Pittbulls Warnings: 0 Stamina: poor Goaltending: inadequate Playmaking: disastrous Passing: disastrous Winger: wretched Defending: disastrous Scoring: disastrous Set Pieces: disastrous Not even worth 100k but he's giving me 2 stars every game he plays... Best of all, he was a youth pull... I'm waiting to pull a better one to make him my new starting keeper FM __________________ A Black Belt is a White Belt who refused to give up... follow my story: The real life story of a running frog...

05-30-2003, 05:18 PM	#7
PilotMan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Seven miles up	I notice that you are looking at a lot of international players. One thing to keep in mind is that 20% pay increase they are going to take when they come to the US and play. Inadequate keepers should be able to be found in plenty in the US and that can help keep your wages down. __________________ He's just like if Snow White was competitive, horny, and capable of beating the shit out of anyone that called her Pops.

05-30-2003, 05:28 PM	#9
PilotMan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Seven miles up	If you can wait on more week, I am sure there will be many inad youth pulls after tomarrow night. The only thing is the auctions won't end until after the next league match. O/w you're doin' fine. __________________ He's just like if Snow White was competitive, horny, and capable of beating the shit out of anyone that called her Pops.

05-30-2003, 05:44 PM	#11
GoldenEagle Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Little Rock, AR	Age has nothing to do with abillity. __________________ Xbox 360 Gamer Tag: GoldenEagle014

05-30-2003, 05:52 PM	#13
illinifan999 Pro Rookie Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: VA	I remember playing this one guy who had an unpredictable keeper. One game he allowed one goal on maybe 6 chances. The next game he allowed 7 goals on 7 chances. __________________ Chicago Eagles 2 time ZFL champions We're "rebuilding"

05-30-2003, 04:51 PM	#2
BillyMadison High School Varsity Join Date: May 2003	Heres another... I expect the price will go up a bit towards the deadline... Miso Kovacevic (12088102) 25 years, weak form, healthy A controversial person who is balanced and upright. Has poor experience and solid leadership abilities. Nationality: Hrvatska Assessed value: 95 000 US$ Wage: 1 120 US$/week Owner: Ramroders Warnings: 0 Stamina: poor Goaltending: inadequate Playmaking: wretched Passing: wretched Winger: wretched Defending: wretched Scoring: wretched Set Pieces: solid

05-30-2003, 04:55 PM	#3
BillyMadison High School Varsity Join Date: May 2003	Here another one, a little younger and higher value... 2. Lasse Ragnarsson 22 500 US$ (opening price) Belongs to: TUSE Age: 23 years Value: 117 000 US$ Deadline: 5/31/2003 at 18:09 Stamina: excellent Keeper: inadequate Playmaking: disastrous Passing: disastrous Winger: disastrous Defending: wretched Scoring: disastrous Set Pieces: poor

05-30-2003, 05:06 PM	#5
Nyarlahotep College Benchwarmer Join Date: Mar 2003	I have to agree that an unpredictable would not be a good choice and the second is a drain on team spirit.

05-30-2003, 05:12 PM	#6
BillyMadison High School Varsity Join Date: May 2003	Per Larsson (8746503) 23 years, poor form, healthy A pleasant guy who is balanced and upright. Has disastrous experience and weak leadership abilities. Nationality: Sverige Assessed value: 110 000 US$ Wage: 1 420 US$/week Owner: FK Norra Järva Warnings: 0 Stamina: wretched Goaltending: inadequate Playmaking: disastrous Passing: disastrous Winger: disastrous Defending: poor Scoring: disastrous Set Pieces: disastrous

05-30-2003, 05:24 PM	#8
BillyMadison High School Varsity Join Date: May 2003	After searching the U.S.... i found nothing.

05-30-2003, 05:33 PM	#10
BillyMadison High School Varsity Join Date: May 2003	I don't want youth pulls... Looking for 24-27 year old guys, if im understanind you correctly.

05-30-2003, 06:07 PM	#15
Nyarlahotep College Benchwarmer Join Date: Mar 2003	That last one looks good depending on the price.

05-30-2003, 07:03 PM	#17
Nyarlahotep College Benchwarmer Join Date: Mar 2003	If he is getting him for the long haul and has given up on this season (which he pretty much admitted to at the start of this thread) current form shouldn't matter too much, it is fairly easy to fix.

05-30-2003, 07:54 PM	#19
BillyMadison High School Varsity Join Date: May 2003	Stay away from weak form layers, eh? Thanks. Im looking at slim-pickings though right now, I can wait a weak or two though.

05-30-2003, 08:13 PM	#21
Nyarlahotep College Benchwarmer Join Date: Mar 2003	You can sometimes tell if they have a form problem by looking at their history, and I did say depending on price. I've gotten some good deals on players who lose form from riding the bench.

05-30-2003, 08:32 PM	#22
FrogMan Hattrick Moderator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Pintendre, Qc, Canada	that is also true and I've tried that trick a few times, where I see a player in bad form going for cheap and when you look at his last match, you see a match that happened about a month ago... FM __________________ A Black Belt is a White Belt who refused to give up... follow my story: The real life story of a running frog...

05-30-2003, 09:06 PM	#23
daedalus Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2000	As has been said, Tuesday is an awesome day to shop. Using an example in this thread . . . when Frogger pulls his solid keeper, he's likely to put his current keeper (above) up for sale. Unpredictable would be the one specialty I'd be leery with for a keeper.

05-30-2003, 10:54 PM	#25
GoldenEagle Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Little Rock, AR	You may also want to wait and see if you can pull a high inadequate this week in your youth pull. __________________ Xbox 360 Gamer Tag: GoldenEagle014

05-31-2003, 09:42 AM	#27
Nyarlahotep College Benchwarmer Join Date: Mar 2003	I think he's looking for a high inadequate that he can get a steal on.

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