World Cup starts this Friday!!!

FrogMan · 06-05-2003, 07:45 PM

Tomorrow marks the beginning of World Cup III in Hattrick world.

I know USA will not be active in the first two rounds, since they are ranked in the top 8 in the world, but some countries of other users will be in action tomorrow.

Among FOFCers countries that will be in action tomorrow...
Canada plays Eesti
England plays Uruguay
France plays Prathet Thai

Good luck to them, and from me
GO CANADA!!!

FM

BillyMadison · 06-05-2003, 07:49 PM

Thats cool... do they run this every 4 years like in real life? GO USA! But I think we all know who will win... Sverige... Who won the last 2?

Nyarlahotep · 06-05-2003, 07:53 PM

They run every other year alternating with the U-20's. Sweden has won every year in fact I think they have only ever lost two games.

BillyMadison · 06-05-2003, 07:53 PM

Thats unfortunate... wish they would do something to level the playing field.

FrogMan · 06-05-2003, 07:54 PM

Somebody might know better than me, but I think they do it every other season, alternating with the U20 world cup.

I would guess that Sverige won the first two, but I'm not sure...

Click on "World Cup" on the left in Hattrick...

FM

Edit: Nyarl beat me to it...

Nyarlahotep · 06-05-2003, 08:02 PM

I just wanted to add that I love the banner ad they did for it.

FrogMan · 06-05-2003, 08:05 PM

agreed, it is very, very cool...

FM

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TargetPractice6 · 06-05-2003, 09:35 PM

Sweden has won every WC (U20 and full) thus far. However, we (USA) did beat them in a friendly. USA is the only other team aside from Sweden to make it to the quaterfinals every season so far (U20 and full). This will be the season we make it to the semis.

AccardoOutfit29 · 06-05-2003, 09:58 PM

Can't wait to watch some of the action. Would be great if the US could transfer some of the friendly success to the cup.

NAIWF · 06-05-2003, 10:28 PM

Just for Frog Man, I will be rooting for Estonia tomorrow. That blatant display of anti-American sentiment will not be tolerated 'round here buddy

Seriously though, all North American teams will get cheered for by me as well as anyone facing Sweden aka Hat Trick's Evil Empire/Yankees.

FrogMan · 06-06-2003, 10:22 AM

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Originally posted by NAIWF
Just for Frog Man, I will be rooting for Estonia tomorrow. That blatant display of anti-American sentiment will not be tolerated 'round here buddy Seriously though, all North American teams will get cheered for by me as well as anyone facing Sweden aka Hat Trick's Evil Empire/Yankees.

NAIWF, I know you've included the obligatory

in your comment, but I hope you don't see me, or any comments I've made here, as anti-American. I know many Quebecers have made fools of themselves with anti-American comments and/or attitude, but believe me I'm not one of them. I probably got more American friends than I have from Quebec and my son has dual citizenship American/Canadian, as he was born in the States...

I don't want to open a can of worms and I'm pretty sure it wasn't your intentions either, I just wanted to make my position clear, as it seems it differs a bit to the one taken by many other Quebecers... I'll follow about the same cheering plan you proposed, Go Canada, Go USA, Go anybody who plays against Sweden

Anybody thinks USA could repeat their friendly win over Sweden if they ever play each other in the Cup? I have not followed international HT games enough to even have an opinion, that's why I'm asking...

FM

NAIWF · 06-06-2003, 11:08 AM

I was just being silly since I know you were just supporting Canada, but it's fun making the obligatory exchange rate jokes and things like that. On an entirely un-HT related note I thought it was idiotic the way that ESPN tried to play up Serena Williams being booed as anti-Americanism. It couldn't be that she's an obnoxious player or WAY too cocky, or that she mocked France earlier in the event right?

Back to HT, if Canada wasn't playing a WC Qualifier today, the only match I'd watch is the USA u-20 team. As far as the US beating Sweden in the Cup, I'm going to say it probably won't happen because it would be a Semifinal or Final match if I read the situation correctly and I'm sure Sweden would MOTS. You can MOTS World Cup games right?

Hopefully Sweden gets upset before that happens and we can take the Cup, sorta like what the New Jersey Nets were hoping when the Lakers got beat this year. What's that? The Nets are already down 1-0 in the NBA Finals . . . damnit

DataKing · 06-06-2003, 11:13 AM

I'll be rooting for our brothers from north of the border today, but Team Canada needs to be careful. Team Estonia is one of those border-line teams that just might surprise some people. I'll be sure to watch the match today.

MylesKnight · 06-06-2003, 01:00 PM

Can someone please give a breakdown of the whole World Cup format? Does it differ from the actual World Cup, ie; 32 Teams, in 8 Groups of 4 Format?

Also, are we able to follow these Matches just as we can regular H-trick Matches?

THANKS!!

DataKing · 06-06-2003, 01:04 PM

You can find all of this information under the "World Cup" Section of the main menu on the left hand portion of the screen. And yes, you can follow these games just like regular Hattrick matches.

MylesKnight · 06-06-2003, 01:06 PM

Thanks DK.. Duh, what was I thinking.. It's just right there in front of my eyes..

Oh hey, one follow up though, do Lower Seeded Teams host these Preliminary Round Matches?

NAIWF · 06-06-2003, 01:07 PM

Click on the World Cup -> matches to watch whatever you want to

This round is knock out. Winners meet next week in knock out before qualifying for group play. The schedule is under

World Cup -> matches -> World Cup

DataKing · 06-06-2003, 01:08 PM

I think the "better" team gets the advantage of hosting these matches.

I always manage to confuse myself by talking about lower and higher seeds. Are higher seeds better, because they're "higher," or are lower seeds better, because of the lower number of the seed.

Bah. I think you get the idea. Canada is more highly ranked, and therefore is playing host to the Estonian team as we speak.

MylesKnight · 06-06-2003, 01:12 PM

Thanks NAIWF.. A shame to see the South African's just barely miss out on the WC.. Oh well, they'll make up for it on the Rugby trail..

..DK, I know what you're saying. One of the only things in the world where we talk about lower being better and higher being worse is when it comes to seeding for sporting events and such.

I just figured we'd have the "worse" seeded team hosting in this as has been the case in the US Cup.. Oh well... Thanks for the info.

FrogMan · 06-06-2003, 01:14 PM

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Originally posted by MylesKnight
Thanks DKOh hey, one follow up though, do Lower Seeded Teams host these Preliminary Round Matches?

All matches are played in Nederland, at least for that round. Don't know about the rest though..

FM

NAIWF · 06-06-2003, 01:26 PM

Anybody watching anything good? I've got these three open.

0-0 Canada/Estonia
1-0 England/Uruguay (playing a 1-6-3, d'oh)
0-1 Thailand/France

DataKing · 06-06-2003, 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by FrogMan
All matches are played in Nederland, at least for that round. Don't know about the rest though..

FM

Oh yeah. Duh. Brain fart on my part.

All matches take place in the Netherlands for this year's cup, including the preliminaries going on right now.

Speaking of which, Team Canada has had two scoring opportunities in the first 27 minutes, but have failed to convert. Estonian keeper Tarmo Parts, only 19 years old, made a spectacular block to keep the match scoreless.

bbor · 06-06-2003, 01:28 PM

Hmm..i guess team Canada did'nt want any of my players

NAIWF · 06-06-2003, 01:35 PM

I just looked down most of the top teams games and everything is still pretty close and holding to form. This is the first World Cup I've seen of any kind, so my question is does it basically go according to the ranks? I mean we all assume Sweden will win, but are there ever any real upsets before we get to the final?

FrogMan · 06-06-2003, 01:37 PM

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Originally posted by DataKing
Speaking of which, Team Canada has had two scoring opportunities in the first 27 minutes, but have failed to convert. Estonian keeper Tarmo Parts, only 19 years old, made a spectacular block to keep the match scoreless.

Kind of ironic, Parts is the starting keeper for a team named High Park FC, team that is based in Toronto, Canada

FM

FrogMan · 06-06-2003, 01:38 PM

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Originally posted by bbor
Hmm..i guess team Canada did'nt want any of my players

I heard they wanted them for the U-6 world cup, but since they are all older than 6, they were not allowed to compete

FM

DataKing · 06-06-2003, 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by NAIWF
I just looked down most of the top teams games and everything is still pretty close and holding to form. This is the first World Cup I've seen of any kind, so my question is does it basically go according to the ranks? I mean we all assume Sweden will win, but are there ever any real upsets before we get to the final?

You do get the occasional surprise team, from what I have seen. If I remember correctly, Poland did surprisingly well in the last World Cup.

portnoise · 06-06-2003, 01:52 PM

How is Russia winning 3-0 with a 2-6-2?

Easy Mac · 06-06-2003, 01:53 PM

You know, if I had a rich team, I would buy the best players from other countries, then release them... ah semi-cheating.

Easy Mac · 06-06-2003, 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by portnoise
How is Russia winning 3-0 with a 2-6-2?

You're allowed to play with these formations, you just don't get training from them.

FrogMan · 06-06-2003, 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Easy Mac
You know, if I had a rich team, I would buy the best players from other countries, then release them... ah semi-cheating.

I think there's a rule against firing a player who is on a national team. Maybe if you got to him before he got on the national team, then maybe you could do it, evil man

FM

Easy Mac · 06-06-2003, 01:57 PM

Hey, I'd do anything for America... as long as it involved soccer and non-killing.

NAIWF · 06-06-2003, 02:02 PM

Latvia is actually tied with Oceania 1-1 despite running an 0-8-2. If they win, I think that would be a good indicator that defense is useless in this game.

NAIWF · 06-06-2003, 02:15 PM

Canada finally scored, leading to loud ribbits from Quebec

bbor · 06-06-2003, 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by FrogMan
I heard they wanted them for the U-6 world cup, but since they are all older than 6, they were not allowed to compete

FM

If there was a Wretched World cup...where player's rated wretched or worse could only play...My whole team would get picked....

And they'd rawk

bbor · 06-06-2003, 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by NAIWF
Latvia is actually tied with Oceania 1-1 despite running an 0-8-2. If they win, I think that would be a good indicator that defense is useless in this game.

Sounds like the WC is making a mockery of the Hattie game engine...perhaps this will force the programmers to lay off the way midfield controls the game so much.

FrogMan · 06-06-2003, 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by NAIWF
Canada finally scored, leading to loud ribbits from Quebec

WOOT! WOOT! BUD-WEIS-ER!!!

FM

Easy Mac · 06-06-2003, 02:25 PM

"Canada finally scored"

*shudders* I've seen Canadian women, not something I want to think about.

FrogMan · 06-06-2003, 02:30 PM

Now 2-0 Canada!!!! GO CANADA!!!

FM

NAIWF · 06-06-2003, 02:33 PM

Latvia leads 2-1 w/13 minutes left with ZERO defenders *sigh*

NAIWF · 06-06-2003, 02:33 PM

3-0 Canada, time to find another game to watch.

MylesKnight · 06-06-2003, 02:46 PM

Holy ___, someone get Uruguay on the phone and let them know the World Cup started today..

ENGLAND 9, URUGUAY 0

MylesKnight · 06-06-2003, 02:48 PM

The Aussies and Latvia are headed to Extra Time, Tied at 2..

Also, India and Indonesia are all squared at 3, with OT just underway..

MylesKnight · 06-06-2003, 02:51 PM

[size=large]AUSSIES WIN!! 3-2 [/size]

NAIWF · 06-06-2003, 02:53 PM

I think it's pretty sad that game went to OT in the first place. Just look at the ratings Latvia's defense put up with NO defenders. The dev team need to fix that ASAP imho.

MylesKnight · 06-06-2003, 02:58 PM

(Official Indonesian Soccer Jingle).. "In-Dough... Knee-Sha... Indough-nesia Rocks the Spot!!"

sterlingice · 06-06-2003, 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by FrogMan
I think there's a rule against firing a player who is on a national team. Maybe if you got to him before he got on the national team, then maybe you could do it, evil man

FM

There was a flap about this a couple of months ago. IIRC, it involved some Swedes, but I'm not sure if they were the ones buying up the players or if it was the Sweedish national team that was getting raided.

SI

sterlingice · 06-06-2003, 03:44 PM

Did Lytic's South Korea team make it? Or was he coaching U-20?

SI

TargetPractice6 · 06-06-2003, 04:41 PM

He's the U20 coach.

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06-06-2003, 11:13 AM	#14
DataKing Pro Rookie Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Chicago	I'll be rooting for our brothers from north of the border today, but Team Canada needs to be careful. Team Estonia is one of those border-line teams that just might surprise some people. I'll be sure to watch the match today. __________________ Current Games Diablo III (BattleTag: DataKing#1685) Allegiances: Chicago Bears - Detroit Red Wings - Kansas Jayhawks Awards: 2011 Golden Scribe - Other Sports Category (The Straight(away) and Narrow - A Forza Motorsport 3 Dynasty)

06-06-2003, 01:00 PM	#15
MylesKnight College Benchwarmer Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Neptune Beach, Florida	Can someone please give a breakdown of the whole World Cup format? Does it differ from the actual World Cup, ie; 32 Teams, in 8 Groups of 4 Format? Also, are we able to follow these Matches just as we can regular H-trick Matches? THANKS!! __________________ IT'S ALL ABOUT THE BLACK & GOLD!!

06-05-2003, 07:49 PM	#2
BillyMadison High School Varsity Join Date: May 2003	Thats cool... do they run this every 4 years like in real life? GO USA! But I think we all know who will win... Sverige... Who won the last 2?

06-05-2003, 07:53 PM	#3
Nyarlahotep College Benchwarmer Join Date: Mar 2003	They run every other year alternating with the U-20's. Sweden has won every year in fact I think they have only ever lost two games.

06-05-2003, 07:54 PM	#5
FrogMan Hattrick Moderator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Pintendre, Qc, Canada	Somebody might know better than me, but I think they do it every other season, alternating with the U20 world cup. I would guess that Sverige won the first two, but I'm not sure... Click on "World Cup" on the left in Hattrick... FM Edit: Nyarl beat me to it... __________________ A Black Belt is a White Belt who refused to give up... follow my story: The real life story of a running frog... Last edited by FrogMan : 06-05-2003 at 07:54 PM.

06-05-2003, 08:02 PM	#6
Nyarlahotep College Benchwarmer Join Date: Mar 2003	I just wanted to add that I love the banner ad they did for it.

06-05-2003, 09:35 PM	#9
TargetPractice6 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Lexington, KY	Sweden has won every WC (U20 and full) thus far. However, we (USA) did beat them in a friendly. USA is the only other team aside from Sweden to make it to the quaterfinals every season so far (U20 and full). This will be the season we make it to the semis.

06-05-2003, 10:28 PM	#11
NAIWF College Prospect Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: New York, NY	Just for Frog Man, I will be rooting for Estonia tomorrow. That blatant display of anti-American sentiment will not be tolerated 'round here buddy Seriously though, all North American teams will get cheered for by me as well as anyone facing Sweden aka Hat Trick's Evil Empire/Yankees.

06-06-2003, 11:08 AM	#13
NAIWF College Prospect Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: New York, NY	I was just being silly since I know you were just supporting Canada, but it's fun making the obligatory exchange rate jokes and things like that. On an entirely un-HT related note I thought it was idiotic the way that ESPN tried to play up Serena Williams being booed as anti-Americanism. It couldn't be that she's an obnoxious player or WAY too cocky, or that she mocked France earlier in the event right? Back to HT, if Canada wasn't playing a WC Qualifier today, the only match I'd watch is the USA u-20 team. As far as the US beating Sweden in the Cup, I'm going to say it probably won't happen because it would be a Semifinal or Final match if I read the situation correctly and I'm sure Sweden would MOTS. You can MOTS World Cup games right? Hopefully Sweden gets upset before that happens and we can take the Cup, sorta like what the New Jersey Nets were hoping when the Lakers got beat this year. What's that? The Nets are already down 1-0 in the NBA Finals . . . damnit

06-06-2003, 01:04 PM	#16
DataKing Pro Rookie Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Chicago	You can find all of this information under the "World Cup" Section of the main menu on the left hand portion of the screen. And yes, you can follow these games just like regular Hattrick matches. __________________ Current Games Diablo III (BattleTag: DataKing#1685) Allegiances: Chicago Bears - Detroit Red Wings - Kansas Jayhawks Awards: 2011 Golden Scribe - Other Sports Category (The Straight(away) and Narrow - A Forza Motorsport 3 Dynasty)

06-06-2003, 01:06 PM	#17
MylesKnight College Benchwarmer Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Neptune Beach, Florida	Thanks DK.. Duh, what was I thinking.. It's just right there in front of my eyes.. Oh hey, one follow up though, do Lower Seeded Teams host these Preliminary Round Matches? __________________ IT'S ALL ABOUT THE BLACK & GOLD!!

06-06-2003, 01:07 PM	#18
NAIWF College Prospect Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: New York, NY	Click on the World Cup -> matches to watch whatever you want to This round is knock out. Winners meet next week in knock out before qualifying for group play. The schedule is under World Cup -> matches -> World Cup

06-06-2003, 01:08 PM	#19
DataKing Pro Rookie Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Chicago	I think the "better" team gets the advantage of hosting these matches. I always manage to confuse myself by talking about lower and higher seeds. Are higher seeds better, because they're "higher," or are lower seeds better, because of the lower number of the seed. Bah. I think you get the idea. Canada is more highly ranked, and therefore is playing host to the Estonian team as we speak. __________________ Current Games Diablo III (BattleTag: DataKing#1685) Allegiances: Chicago Bears - Detroit Red Wings - Kansas Jayhawks Awards: 2011 Golden Scribe - Other Sports Category (The Straight(away) and Narrow - A Forza Motorsport 3 Dynasty)

06-06-2003, 01:12 PM	#20
MylesKnight College Benchwarmer Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Neptune Beach, Florida	Thanks NAIWF.. A shame to see the South African's just barely miss out on the WC.. Oh well, they'll make up for it on the Rugby trail.. ..DK, I know what you're saying. One of the only things in the world where we talk about lower being better and higher being worse is when it comes to seeding for sporting events and such. I just figured we'd have the "worse" seeded team hosting in this as has been the case in the US Cup.. Oh well... Thanks for the info. __________________ IT'S ALL ABOUT THE BLACK & GOLD!!

06-06-2003, 01:26 PM	#22
NAIWF College Prospect Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: New York, NY	Anybody watching anything good? I've got these three open. 0-0 Canada/Estonia 1-0 England/Uruguay (playing a 1-6-3, d'oh) 0-1 Thailand/France

06-06-2003, 01:28 PM	#24
bbor Pro Starter Join Date: May 2001 Location: toronto	Hmm..i guess team Canada did'nt want any of my players __________________ Pumpy Tudors Now that I've cracked and made that admission, I wonder if I'm only a couple of steps away from wanting to tongue-kiss Jaromir Jagr and give Bobby Clarke a blowjob.

06-06-2003, 01:35 PM	#25
NAIWF College Prospect Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: New York, NY	I just looked down most of the top teams games and everything is still pretty close and holding to form. This is the first World Cup I've seen of any kind, so my question is does it basically go according to the ranks? I mean we all assume Sweden will win, but are there ever any real upsets before we get to the final?

06-06-2003, 01:52 PM	#29
portnoise H.S. Freshman Team Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Toronto	How is Russia winning 3-0 with a 2-6-2?

06-06-2003, 01:53 PM	#30
Easy Mac Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Here	You know, if I had a rich team, I would buy the best players from other countries, then release them... ah semi-cheating.

06-06-2003, 01:57 PM	#33
Easy Mac Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Here	Hey, I'd do anything for America... as long as it involved soccer and non-killing.

06-06-2003, 02:02 PM	#34
NAIWF College Prospect Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: New York, NY	Latvia is actually tied with Oceania 1-1 despite running an 0-8-2. If they win, I think that would be a good indicator that defense is useless in this game.

06-06-2003, 02:15 PM	#35
NAIWF College Prospect Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: New York, NY	Canada finally scored, leading to loud ribbits from Quebec

06-06-2003, 02:25 PM	#39
Easy Mac Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Here	"Canada finally scored" shudders I've seen Canadian women, not something I want to think about.

06-06-2003, 02:30 PM	#40
FrogMan Hattrick Moderator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Pintendre, Qc, Canada	Now 2-0 Canada!!!! GO CANADA!!! FM __________________ A Black Belt is a White Belt who refused to give up... follow my story: The real life story of a running frog...

06-06-2003, 02:33 PM	#41
NAIWF College Prospect Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: New York, NY	Latvia leads 2-1 w/13 minutes left with ZERO defenders sigh

06-06-2003, 02:46 PM	#43
MylesKnight College Benchwarmer Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Neptune Beach, Florida	Holy ___, someone get Uruguay on the phone and let them know the World Cup started today.. ENGLAND 9, URUGUAY 0 __________________ IT'S ALL ABOUT THE BLACK & GOLD!!

06-06-2003, 02:48 PM	#44
MylesKnight College Benchwarmer Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Neptune Beach, Florida	The Aussies and Latvia are headed to Extra Time, Tied at 2.. Also, India and Indonesia are all squared at 3, with OT just underway.. __________________ IT'S ALL ABOUT THE BLACK & GOLD!!

06-06-2003, 02:51 PM	#45
MylesKnight College Benchwarmer Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Neptune Beach, Florida	[size=large]AUSSIES WIN!! 3-2 [/size] __________________ IT'S ALL ABOUT THE BLACK & GOLD!!

06-06-2003, 02:53 PM	#46
NAIWF College Prospect Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: New York, NY	I think it's pretty sad that game went to OT in the first place. Just look at the ratings Latvia's defense put up with NO defenders. The dev team need to fix that ASAP imho.

06-06-2003, 02:58 PM	#47
MylesKnight College Benchwarmer Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Neptune Beach, Florida	(Official Indonesian Soccer Jingle).. "In-Dough... Knee-Sha... Indough-nesia Rocks the Spot!!" __________________ IT'S ALL ABOUT THE BLACK & GOLD!! Last edited by MylesKnight : 06-06-2003 at 02:59 PM.

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06-06-2003, 04:41 PM	#50
TargetPractice6 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Lexington, KY	He's the U20 coach.