QuikSand
06-24-2003, 11:01 AM
Here's a story I received from Churchill Downs today:
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Churchill Downs Wednesday Pick Six Carryover at $329,989; Hollywood Park Upward of $170,000
For a sixth consecutive day on Sunday, racing fans failed to hit the Churchill Downs Pick 6 wager, resulting in a carryover of $329,989 for the track's Wednesday racing card. Hollywood Park also enters Wednesday racing on a substantial carryover, with $174,449 in the Pick 6 pool.
Wednesday's $2 minimum Pick 6 wager will be conducted on Churchill Downs races 5 through 10 and on Hollywood Park races 3 through 8. Official racing programs for Wednesday's card will be available on Tuesday, June 24. Post time for Wednesday's first race is 1:15 p.m. ET at Churchill Downs and 1:20 p.m. PT at Hollywood Park. Post time for the first of the Churchill Downs Pick 6 races is scheduled for 3:25 p.m. ET. Hollywood Park's Pick Six kicks off at 2:20 p.m. PT.
For more information, visit www.churchilldowns.com or www.hollywoodpark.com
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If anyone here miht like to discuss teh races for tomorrow (especially at Churchill Downs), I'd be interested. I'm planning to try to play the Pick 6, and see what happens - with that much carryover money coming in, Wednesday's Pick 6 pool can be a positive expectation play, not something you see much of in horseracing.
QuikSand
06-24-2003, 09:43 PM
Okay, after my first run through it, I have my first round of picks. The line represents a meaningful space between selections, so far:
5th
#12 SOUTH CHRISTIAN
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#1 THOMPSON GEE
#5 THE CRAFTSMAN
6th
#9 STAIRWAY TO HEAVEN
#6 SILVER IRON
7th
#2 DANCIN RAHY
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#9 MANNIE'S MISTAKE
8th
#3 SHAKE THE BANK
#8 FORMAL DECREE
9th
#7 HALORY LEIGH
#5 WOOF
10th
#4 ADREAMISBORN
I'll probably knock a couple more off this list before putting a bet down... I'm going with a combination of value and quality in the above- we'll see how it pans out.
QuikSand
06-25-2003, 02:01 PM
Well, after three races at CD, it looks like we've been clapping erasers over our heads - no winner had paid over $5.40 yet.
Certainly doesn't bode well for lynch's picks... and probably not mine, either. (Not that I believe there is such a thing as "favorite bias" in racing...)
QuikSand
06-25-2003, 03:06 PM
Well, that was really fun!
5th Race - Churchill Downs - Wednesday, June 25th, 2003
Conditions: 7F Dirt. FOR MAIDENS, THREE YEAR OLDS AND UPWARD . Three Year Olds 116 lbs.; Older 124 lbs. CLAIMING PRICE $30,000, for each $2,500 to $25,000 2 lbs.
Value of Race: $20,000 1st $12,400 2nd $4,000 3rd $2,000 4th $1,000 5th $600 Mutuel Pool: $229,459 Pick 3 Pool: $40,863 Exacta Pool: $221,023 Superfecta Pool: $68,708 Trifecta Pool: $179,604
# Horse A/S M/E Wgt PP St 1/4 1/2 Str Fin Jockey Odds
2 Favorite Magic 3 G L 116 2 6 3hd 42 21 1/2 12 1/4 Velasquez Cornelio H. 6.40
12 South Christian 3 C L b 116 11 1 21/2 1hd 11 21 1/4 Sellers Shane J. *1.60
3 Nippert 3 C L f 116 3 3 63 51 45 31 1/4 Court Jon Kenton 4.80
11 This Is Doc 3 G L b 116 10 2 41 3hd 3hd 48 Meche Lonnie 25.10
9 Camaron's Harbor 4 C L 124 8 4 51/2 65 6hd 53/4 Castaneda Bonnie 34.90
1 Thompson Gee 3 C L bf 116 1 10 1010 1015 9hd 6nk Kuntzweiler Greta 20.20
6 Unleash the Law 3 G L b 116 6 5 1hd 21 1/2 5hd 72 Guidry Mark 4.90
10 Elegant Ambassador 3 C L 116 9 9 95 81 1/2 81/2 82 3/4 Moss Rick 34.00
5 The Craftsman 3 G L 116 5 7 71 1/2 73 74 91/2 Borel Calvin H. 4.90
7 What a Rebel 3 G L b 116 7 8 83 95 1/2 1022 10 Mojica Orlando 91.60
4 Classic Beech 3 C L b 121 4 11 11 11 11 11DNF Deegan Joseph 77.30
Off Time: 3:26 Start: 11 went. Good for all but 6. Track: Fast Weather: Cloudy 89o
Fractions: :224, :453, 1:11, 1:234 (:22.84, :45.64, 1:11.04, 1:23.88)
# Horse Win Place Show
2 Favorite Magic 14.80 5.80 4.00
12 South Christian 3.40 2.60
3 Nippert 3.20
Pedigree: 2 - Favorite Magic, Bay Gelding, 3, by Favorite Trick - Magic Feeling (IRE) by Magical Wonder
Wager Type Payoff Winning Numbers Pool
$1 Pick 3 $108.80 4/8-8-2 (3 Correct) $40,863
$2 Exacta $49.00 2-12 $221,023
$1 Superfecta $1,636.80 2-12-3-11 $68,708
$2 Trifecta $207.80 2-12-3 $179,604
Race Summary
FAVORITE MAGIC, well placed inside from early on, eased out and split foes three wide in the upper stretch and drove clear under urging. SOUTH CHRISTIAN angled in early to duel for the lead, battled with UNLEASH THE LAW, gained a slight edge on the turn, showed the way into the final furlong and was second best. NIPPERT, never far back while four wide, came a bit wider for the drive and offered a mild gain. THIS IS DOC tracked the pace four wide into the final furlong and flattened out when the test came. CAMARON'S HARBOR followed the pace five wide into the stretch, held his position but couldn't menace. THOMPSON GEE, outrun to the stretch, improved position but wasn't a threat. UNLEASH THE LAW stumbled at the start, quickly recovered, angled inside to gain a slim lead, dueled until the stretch while inside of SOUTH CHRISTIAN and tired in the drive. ELEGANT AMBASSADOR never menaced. THE CRAFTSMAN bobbled at the start and was finished leaving the turn. WHAT A REBEL was done early. CLASSIC BEECH dwelt at the start, was outrun always and distanced in the stretch.
Owners: 2 - Joseph Lacombe Stable, Inc.; 12 - Robert S. Mitchell Trust; 3 - Bentley L. Smith; 11 - Penny Fires, Mike Pulgiano & Pauline Donahoe; 9 - Al Profitt; 1 - Phillip Spangler; 6 - Stony Oak Farm; 10 - Paul C McDonald, III; 5 - John E. Callaway; 7 - Swingley, Jim and Duane; 4 - Teamroo Murray W Johnson & William Bradford
Trainers: 2 - Eddie Kenneally; 12 - Randy L. Morse; 3 - Carl A. Nafzger; 11 - William H. Fires; 9 - Don J. Combs; 1 - Winston R. Skaggs; 6 - Bobby C. Barnett; 10 - Forrest Kaelin; 5 - Mark Danner; 7 - Duane Swingley; 4 - Murray W. Johnson
Breeders: 2 - R. C. Durr & George Budig (KY); 12 - William Lussky (KY); 3 - Bentley L. Smith (KY); 11 - William H. Fires (KY); 9 - John R. Gaines Thoroughbreds (KY); 1 - Sherman Mitchell Jr & Phillip Spangler (KY); 6 - Newbyth Stud (KY); 10 - Live Oak Stud (KY); 5 - Richard S. Kaster (KY); 7 - Ron Brown (IN); 4 - Murray Johnson (IL)
Scratched: Blown Overboard, Jaycejace, Razz Beret
QuikSand
06-25-2003, 05:44 PM
The formatting wil be awful, but here are the remaining results:
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6th Race - Churchill Downs - Wednesday, June 25th, 2003
Conditions: Claiming, $13,500, Open 4 yo's & up, 1 1/16M, Dirt.
Off Time: 3:58 Start: 12 went. Good for all. Track: Fast Weather: Clear 89o
Fractions: :234, :474, 1:134, 1:402, 1:471 (:23.87, :47.94, 1:13.92, 1:40.45, 1:47.37)
# Horse Jockey Weight Win Place Show
3 I'm So Silly LeJeune, Jr. Sidney P. 119 32.00 13.40 8.00
6 Focus On Marty Kuntzweiler Greta 117 9.20 5.60
9 Stairway to Heaven Ccamaque Marco A. 123 15.20
Pedigree: 3 - I'm So Silly, Chestnut Gelding, 4, by Tejano Run - Risk Factor by Jade Hunter
Wager Type Payoff Winning Numbers Pool
$1 Pick 3 $575.00 8-2-3 (3 Correct) $33,369
$2 Exacta $285.00 3-6 $205,430
$1 Superfecta $18,794.70 3-6-9-4 $69,610
$2 Trifecta $8,384.20 3-6-9 $186,316
Owner: Kyle M. Cox
Trainer: Kyle M. Cox
Breeder: Hill 'n' Dale Farm & Ingrid I. Boak (KY)
Also Ran: 4 - Gala Bear, 1 - Eldoret, 12 - Eccentric Tycoon, 7 - Silver Ikon, 11 - Eternal Echo, 10 - Lush, 8 - Canyon Pass, 5 - Apalachee Island, 2 - Butterfly Boy
Scratched: Monarch's Gold, A Secret Scoop
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7th Race - Churchill Downs - Wednesday, June 25th, 2003
Conditions: Claiming, $18,000, Open 3 yo's & up, 1 1/16M, Dirt.
Off Time: 4:29 Start: 11 went. Good for all. Track: Fast Weather: Clear 89o
Fractions: :232, :473, 1:124, 1:391, 1:461 (:23.46, :47.70, 1:12.81, 1:39.37, 1:46.20)
# Horse Jockey Weight Win Place Show
6 Dilechance Court Jon Kenton 120 17.00 11.00 7.60
8 Northern Catch Velasquez Cornelio H. 118 6.20 4.80
11 Devil's Dandy Martinez, Jr. Jose R. 120 11.20
Pedigree: 6 - Dilechance, Dark Bay or Brown Gelding, 4, by American Chance - Dilettante by Personal Flag
Wager Type Payoff Winning Numbers Pool
$1 Pick 3 $5,614.70 2-3-6 (3 Correct) $41,591
$2 Exacta $105.00 6-8 $306,834
$1 Superfecta $7,666.20 6-8-11-1 $56,787
$2 Trifecta $1,731.60 6-8-11 $183,869
Owner: Robert Lawrence
Trainer: Robert M. Lawrence
Breeder: John D. Gunther (KY)
Also Ran: 1A - Kiss Me Jim, 7 - Exposer, 3 - Earth Shaking, 10 - Boone'ssimplydbest, 4 - Highland Thunder, 9 - Mannie's Mistake, 5 - Toomuchinformation, 2 - Dancin Rahy
Scratched: Pubelo Run
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8th Race - Churchill Downs - Wednesday, June 25th, 2003
Conditions: Allowance, $47,400, Open 3 yo, 1 1/16M, Turf.
Off Time: 4:59 Start: 7 went. Good for all. Track: Firm Weather: Cloudy 89o
Fractions: :231, :462, 1:104, 1:371, 1:441 (:23.30, :46.40, 1:10.96, 1:37.38, 1:44.38)
# Horse Jockey Weight Win Place Show
2 Bim's Baby Bun Bejarano Rafael 116 38.00 16.00 6.40
4 Chicken Soup Kid McKee John 116 15.00 5.00
3 Shake the Bank Lopez James 120 2.60
Pedigree: 2 - Bim's Baby Bun, Gray or Roan Colt, 3, by Othello - Sweet Ora Bim by Pass the Tab
Wager Type Payoff Winning Numbers Pool
$1 Pick 3 $5,614.50 3-6-2 (3 Correct) $48,521
$2 Exacta $438.20 2-4 $189,484
$2 Trifecta $1,732.20 2-4-3 $219,205
Owner: Trautwein, Marshall and Jackie
Trainer: Felix E. Chavez
Breeder: Marshall Trautwein & Jackie Trautwein (KY)
Also Ran: 1 - Double Slam, 5 - Groovy Chief, 7 - Tortoni, 6 - Shiny Meadow
Scratched: Formal Decree, Here's to Andrew
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9th Race - Churchill Downs - Wednesday, June 25th, 2003
Conditions: Allowance, $46,100, F & M (fillies and mares) 3 yo's & up, 7F, Dirt.
Off Time: 5:32 Start: 10 went. Good for all. Track: Fast Weather: Cloudy 89o
Fractions: :23, :46, 1:102, 1:222 (:23.01, :46.16, 1:10.54, 1:22.46)
# Horse Jockey Weight Win Place Show
7 Halory Leigh Velasquez Cornelio H. 114 7.20 3.80 3.40
6 Sultry Sal Guidry Mark 116 4.20 3.20
3 Red Cell Bejarano Rafael 110 6.40
Pedigree: 7 - Halory Leigh, Chestnut Filly, 3, by Halory Hunter - Graceful Leigh by Clever Trick
Wager Type Payoff Winning Numbers Pool
$1 Pick 3 $1,170.40 6-2-2/7 (3 Correct) $36,125
$2 Exacta $25.60 7-6 $255,977
$1 Superfecta $611.40 7-6-3-9 $83,031
$2 Trifecta $178.00 7-6-3 $232,470
Owner: Jerry Crawford
Trainer: Dale L. Romans
Breeder: Al Profitt & Larry Demeritte (KY)
Also Ran: 9 - Chirimoya, 5 - Woof, 8 - Perky Peaks, 10 - Padmore, 1 - Sugar Candy, 11 - Del Rae, 4 - Key Approval
Scratched: Saratoga Humor
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10th Race - Churchill Downs - Wednesday, June 25th, 2003
Conditions: Maiden Special Weight, $44,900, Open 3 yo's & up, 1 1/2M, Turf.
Off Time: 6:03 Start: 10 went. Good for all. Track: Firm Weather: Cloudy 89o
Fractions: :462, 1:121, 1:391, 1:041, 2:29 (:46.41, 1:12.36, 1:39.35, 1:04.39, 2:29.00)
# Horse Jockey Weight Win Place Show
6 Rowans Park Day Pat 116 5.60 3.20 2.60
4 Adreamisborn Sellers Shane J. 124 3.00 2.60
10 Jazz Fest Weekend Velasquez Cornelio H. 124 3.20
Pedigree: 6 - Rowans Park, Chestnut Colt, 3, by Irish River (fr) - Suivi by Diesis (GB)
Wager Type Payoff Winning Numbers Pool
$1 Pick 3 $294.50 2-2/7-6 (3 Correct) N/A
$1 Pick 4 $3,579.50 6-2-2/7-6 (4 Correct) N/A
$2 Pick 6 $3,407.00 2-3-6-2-2/7-6 (5 Correct) N/A
$2 Pick 6 $1,168,136.80 2-3-6-2-2/7-6 (6 Correct) N/A
$1 Daily Double $10.70 7-6 N/A
$2 Exacta $14.60 6-4 N/A
$1 Superfecta $191.70 6-4-10-9 N/A
$2 Trifecta $68.60 6-4-10 N/A
Owner: Melnyk, Eugene and Laura
Trainer: Anthony L. Reinstedler
Breeder: Britton House Stud Ltd. (KY)
Also Ran: 9 - Roman Centurion, 3 - Steady Streak, 5 - Chance 'ola, 7 - Four Two Won, 8 - Pleasant Wind, 1 - Admit, 2 - St. Onge
lynchjm24
06-25-2003, 05:59 PM
Originally posted by QuikSand
By my count, Lynch gets two winners, I get one, and both of us fail to cash a nickel from the affair. Alas...
It figures, I spent about an hour looking at that. The other day I walked into the sportsbook at Bally's in LV, and hit 2 exactas in 5 mintues just looking at the screens and taking some combination of the 3rd, 4th and 5th choices.
I was pretty happy with Chicken Soup Kid in the 8th - paid 15.00 to place.
I guess it was a day for buying into a huge pick 6 ticket, paid over a million one.
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