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Abe Sargent
07-08-2003, 11:00 AM
I have recently found a game that may very well make my Top 10 Computer and Console Games of All Time.

I recently purchased a Game Boy Advance as an impulse purchase. I pciked up Zelda III and finished it in two days. So I checked a few reviews, and headed back to Meijer's and bought Castlevania - Aria of Sorrow and WarioWare Inc.

WarioWare lasted all of two days and I was on the third day of Aria of Sorrow. I was alomost finished, but I had to keep playing the same level over and over again, which is often one of the disadvantages of Castlevania games.

And I have to admit that I was disappointed with the GBA. These games took no time at all to play. I happened to be in Meijer's shopping for food and I decided to swing by the console section. There was a lady working there who played GameBoy. Since she knew the system, I explained my problem. She asked what games I had played, and then recommened to me Pokemon, either the Ruby or Sapphire version.

I was very sceptical. Pokemon is for kids. Still, nothing else had worked out. So, I picked up Pokemon Sapphire and headed out. Later that night, I loeaded it up figuring that I could learn the system.

The rest is history.

All day on July 4 I played Pokemon. I didn't eat anything other than 2 Granola bars and two pudding cups. I didn't even bathe.

On Saturday I bathed, played an hour of EU2, ordered Beef Quesadillas, and played Pokemon all day.

Sunday ditto.

Last night I raced him so I could load up the game and play more Pokemon.

The game tracks how many hours I've played - 43:06 is where I am at currently.

Pokemon Sapphire or Ruby is simply a masterful game. It is better than Final Fantasy, and very comparbale to it in terms of gameplay. It's really a FF style RPG with a twist. You fight with Pokemon instead of characters, and any monster you fight against you can also capture and use.

Like any good RPG, it is very deep. You can go get Gym Badges, put your Pokemon in contests, or complete side quests. It uses new abilites to open up new ares of the map, just like Final Fantasy and such.

The sheer volume of detail and depth is amazing. For example, various creatures and attacks are various elements. But it's not a simple rock-paper-scissors type elemental scale. Here are the elements that an attack or Pokemon can have:

Flying
Grass
Water
Ground
Rock
Steel
Electric
Fight
Psychic
Normal
Ghost
Dark
Poison

And I've heard rumors that there is a Dragon type too, but I won't read any spoliers or FAQs until I am done. You absolutely have to have a variety of types of Pokemon in your party, so you have to choose what to have and what to get rid of. All while finding Pokemon with good stats, good moves, and so forth.

For those Pokemon literate, I currently have the 7th Badge and am using:

A Sceptile, which started the game as a Treecko, one of the original Pkoemon you choose from
Magneton, which started as a Magnemite
Seviper, a posion Pokemon serpent creature that is unique to Sapphire
Pelipper, a water/flying Pokemn that began life as Wingull
An Aron that finally evolved last night, a Steel/Rock Pokemon.
And a Torkoal fire Pokemon that I am really displeased with and am about to replace.


Anyways, like the best RPGs ever, Pokemon has a lot of extra stuff to do that is not realted to winning the game, for example:

1). Side quests - you have several side quests which you don't get until later in the game.

2). Casino - There is a casino with slots and Pokemon Routlette. The slots are nothing but Pokemon Roulette is a neat and fun spin on classic Routlette which eventually can put the odds in your favor once you figure it out. Of course, there are items that can only be found in the Casino.

3). Grow berries - You can grow berries in loamy soil found throughout the world. Some berries are veyr rare, and you can grow them and cultivate them. Berries are better than items that do much the same thing for a variety of game reasons, so there are legitmate reasosn to do this.

4). Build Pokeblocks - This candy can only be made by blending berries, which is a little subgame, where the more accurate you arespinning a blender, the better your Pokeblocks.

5). Go to contests - This is hte deepest part of the game that you don't have to play. Your Pokemon are judged on one of five different characteristics, depending on which conttest you enter. Each move that your Pokemon has also has a contest rating. So you can go to a contest and compete with other Pokemon. Often, the best combat moves are boring in contests. There are various ranks of contests that you can enter Pokemon into.

6). Safari - There is a place later in the game where you can go on Safari and find unique Pokemon that cannot be found anywhere else. Some of the Pokemon there are familar faces from previous installations like Psyduck and Pikachu. Others are unique to the Sapphire/Ruby release.


In summation, this game is much deeper than "Some Kid's Game." It's really, really good. I think that if this game had been released as is for Super Nintendo (which the GMA is about on par with), then we would remember it as one of the greatest console games of all time. But because it is relagated to a system that some thinkiking of as a Child's Toy (GBA) with a game that kids play, with a cartoon, and that card game. Well, because of that I think the game gets a bad rap. This is an amazingly good game. I would die to see a PS2 version with 1000+ Pokemon, a huge world, and all of the accompanying bells and whistles.


-Anxiety

VPI97
07-08-2003, 11:05 AM
Shhh... don't spoil it for me!

I'm not allowed to play Pokemon Ruby until my 7 year old daughter finishes with it....I don't like playing in the midst of her game and you can only save one game at a time.


Edit - Also, you should pick up some of the older ones:
Pokemon Red
Pokemon Blue
Pokemon Yellow
Pokemon Crystal
Pokemon Silver
Pokemon Gold

(I think that's it)

The only major additions made to Sapphire and Ruby were the ability to blend berries and the dual Pokemon fights. The size of the worlds and the number of side quests are equally vast in the older games.

Fritz
07-08-2003, 11:45 AM
why didnt you post this in the games section?

TredWel
07-08-2003, 11:49 AM
Pokemon is one of the most immersive and subtely nuanced games I've ever played. It's too bad that the marketing for the game was aimed at young kids, it probably turned away a lot of gamers who would enjoy the game otherwise.

I logged over 300 hours on my old copy of Pokemon Silver. I highly suggest picking up one of the second generation games (Gold/Silver/Crystal) on the cheap.

Craptacular
07-08-2003, 11:58 AM
Man, these new glasses of mine are really screwing with my vision. I need to go back to the optometrist.

Leonidas
07-08-2003, 03:10 PM
Pokeman? Like the stupid, cuddly little Japanese characters that annoy the living F@%k out of me? Those same things that 6-year olds commit mass murder over their trading cards for at Toys R Us?

Bee
07-08-2003, 03:15 PM
I vaguely remember Marc Vaughan talking about one of the pokeman games, so you're not alone in your discovery.

sterlingice
07-08-2003, 04:28 PM
I've logged over 100 hours on both my Yellow and Silver carts and got close on Ruby but I set it down (in favor of Advance Wars). Problem with Ruby was that while the story was somewhat better, the lack of stuff from GSC (Gold/Silver/Crystal) irked me. No time of day shifts (yes, pyschotic little kids had to play at different times of day to catch all the Pokemon in the game), no complete set of Pokemon (in RS, you can only get ~200 of the 386 Pokemon whereas you could catch 250 minus the exclusives in GSC), and new "features" such as the berry growing (and subsequent contests) were just tedious (sure, not so bad early on, but wait until you get to the ones that have to be watered every couple of hours for 96 hours: it's just plain stupid).

FYI: I had a Combusken, Gardevoir, Wailmer, Tropius, Flygon, and Linoone.

Oh, that reminds me, another problem I seemed to run across was the lack of good Pokemon for some of the types. Electric and Fire, in particular, are lacking.

SI

Abe Sargent
07-08-2003, 04:55 PM
Originally posted by sterlingice
I've logged over 100 hours on both my Yellow and Silver carts and got close on Ruby but I set it down (in favor of Advance Wars). Problem with Ruby was that while the story was somewhat better, the lack of stuff from GSC (Gold/Silver/Crystal) irked me. No time of day shifts (yes, pyschotic little kids had to play at different times of day to catch all the Pokemon in the game), no complete set of Pokemon (in RS, you can only get ~200 of the 386 Pokemon whereas you could catch 250 minus the exclusives in GSC), and new "features" such as the berry growing (and subsequent contests) were just tedious (sure, not so bad early on, but wait until you get to the ones that have to be watered every couple of hours for 96 hours: it's just plain stupid).

FYI: I had a Combusken, Gardevoir, Wailmer, Tropius, Flygon, and Linoone.

Oh, that reminds me, another problem I seemed to run across was the lack of good Pokemon for some of the types. Electric and Fire, in particular, are lacking.

SI

Magnemite is an amazingly good Electtric Pokemon. I love Steel Pokemon. I am about to pitch my Torkoal for something else. But you don't need fire. I have Seviper, a poison Pokemon, and he is anti-Grass just like fire would be.

Besides, you has Combusken, which is probably the best pick of the initial three I'm thinking. And my Treecko was probably the worst because you can get lots of good grass pokemon early.


-Anxiety

Franklinnoble
07-08-2003, 05:00 PM
Am I the only one reading this who is struggling not to make fun of these guys? ;)

sterlingice
07-08-2003, 05:05 PM
Originally posted by Franklinnoble
Am I the only one reading this who is struggling not to make fun of these guys? ;)

I'm sure you don't have any guilty pleasures at all ;)

(And if you don't, then I kinda feel sorry since you lead an existence devoid of youthful and innocent fun)

SI

Franklinnoble
07-08-2003, 05:11 PM
Originally posted by sterlingice
I'm sure you don't have any guilty pleasures at all ;)

(And if you don't, then I kinda feel sorry since you lead an existence devoid of youthful and innocent fun)

SI

Hey, I don't have to feel guilty about my collection of vintage Transformers, OK?;)

sterlingice
07-08-2003, 05:12 PM
Originally posted by Franklinnoble
Hey, I don't have to feel guilty about my collection of vintage Transformers, OK?;)

I have one of those, too. And I'm a cartoon junkie and have a ton of legos and- hmm.. perhaps some moderation is in order.

SI

CAsterling
07-08-2003, 05:30 PM
Originally posted by Franklinnoble
Am I the only one reading this who is struggling not to make fun of these guys? ;)

No ;)

Marc Vaughan
07-09-2003, 07:26 AM
Pokemon rocks :D

I loved the pokemon games before my daughter cruelly stole them off me ... (yeah, I know they were meant to be hers - but surely I should check they're suitable first?) ....

PS. As far as the shows go, Yu-Gi-Oh beats pokemon hands down :D

Mota
07-09-2003, 05:28 PM
I really believe that Pokemon is a great game. I've probably sunk about 50 hours into various Pokemon games over the past year.

Your first thought is that it's a kid game, but there's a lot of depth to it, the game is really an RPG where you develop your Pokemon and put their strengths and weaknesses against other trainers.

Certainly a far cry from Hamtaro which is also marketed for little kids but can only be enjoyed by children.