Economists Question

[TheTrainisComming]

looks Like ive bitten off more than i can chew for a bit. I am currently at:
Cash funds: -354 536 US$ (-434 019) US$
looks like I have 2 weeks if I things don't change. my main question is how mayn economists should I hire. I can work around selling some players and i have a couple leage home games so it's not as bleak as it seams so any ideas?

Kel

[vex]

I think 1 will do it, sure someone else will know.

[terpkristin]

I remember seeing something about economists and the their effect based on how much debt you were in. I just found it, it was in Hattricks, http://www.databased.at/hattrick/index.asp
I seem to remember reading somewhere else that you should never have more than 3 economists, that they just didn't help all that much, but I don't honestly remember where I saw that or the rationale. I do know that Hattricks has an "Econoy Calculator" so you can figure out how many to hire....
Just remember, if you hire more, that maens more salary you have to pay, making your money go all that much faster....

~terpk

[TheTrainisComming]

well here is the whole financial situation

Cash funds: -354 536 US$ (-437 019) US$
Sponsors: dancing in the streets
Supporter Club: 568 members
Supporters: satisfied


This week

Revenue Expenses
Crowd 0 Arena 5 094
Sponsors 33 600 Wages 30 422
Financial 0 Interest 17 727
Temporary 660 Temporary 9 000
Staff 34 500
Youth squad 20 000
Total revenue 34 260 Total expenses 116 742
Expected income/loss -82 482


Last week

Revenue Expenses
Crowd 1 254 Arena 5 094
Sponsors 32 850 Wages 33 010
Financial 0 Interest 8 646
Temporary 121 140 Temporary 235 615
Staff 34 500
Youth squad 20 000
Total revenue 155 244 Total expenses 336 864
Last week´s income/loss -181 620



Investment in the Youth squad: 20 000 US$ / week

Goaltending Coaches: 3
Assistant Coaches: 7
Sport Psychologists: 1
Spokepersons: 10
Economists: 1
Physiotherapists: 0
Doctors: 0


this is after a stadium upgrade of 175,000

[KevinNU7]

fire 7 spokepersons. Hire two econmists. Cut the youth program to 10k unless you are already at solid. In the future fire 1 or 2 keeper coaches and hire 1 or 2 assistant coaches (3 is too much for a non keeper training team).

Place someone up for sale. You team wages are very high, how big is your team?

[TheTrainisComming]

I have 32 with 4 temp players.( on the block now)

[KevinNU7]

Do you really need more then 22?

I only have 19, including the coach. If you are one of those people that wants to have a full B team then you could do with 22. If you got rid of 10 guy that would be 5k you'd save per week, at a minimum

[Desnudo]

I'd offload 14 or even 16 of those players. What division are you in?

[Bee]

32??

That's like an A, B and C squad!

I'd definitely sell about 10 guys. If you can get enough for them, you might not even need to hire any economists.

[TheTrainisComming]

ok... how about some help here then I'm looking to cut to 20 that would mean 12 get the axe I'm training PM now,

Currently Selling:
Leif Kraus
Tudorel Diaconu
Roberto Kampen
Pedro Menotti
Sasa Vukovic


The 32 players

Philip Cavanaugh
54 000 US$, 23 years, solid form
Has wretched experience and inadequate leadership abilities


Stamina: inadequate Keeper: disastrous
Playmaking: weak Passing: weak
Winger: disastrous Defending: poor
Scoring: passable Set Pieces: wretched

Theo Lemons
57 000 US$, 18 years, passable form
Has disastrous experience and weak leadership abilities [Technical]


Stamina: weak Keeper: disastrous
Playmaking: passable Passing: poor
Winger: wretched Defending: poor
Scoring: passable Set Pieces: solid

Lassi Hoikkala
54 000 US$, 18 years, passable form
Has disastrous experience and weak leadership abilities


Stamina: wretched Keeper: disastrous
Playmaking: passable Passing: poor
Winger: wretched Defending: poor
Scoring: passable Set Pieces: wretched

Eloy Brink
31 000 US$, 21 years, wretched form
Has wretched experience and poor leadership abilities [Unpredictable]


Stamina: solid Keeper: disastrous
Playmaking: inadequate Passing: wretched
Winger: weak Defending: poor
Scoring: passable Set Pieces: wretched

Sergiu Dedu
79 000 US$, 19 years, inadequate form
Has disastrous experience and disastrous leadership abilities


Stamina: excellent Keeper: disastrous
Playmaking: weak Passing: inadequate
Winger: weak Defending: weak
Scoring: inadequate Set Pieces: passable

Jesse Scarborough
83 000 US$, 24 years, solid form
Has disastrous experience and weak leadership abilities


Stamina: passable Keeper: wretched
Playmaking: wretched Passing: weak
Winger: passable Defending: inadequate
Scoring: inadequate Set Pieces: passable

Chester Berger
157 000 US$, 25 years, solid form
Has wretched experience and wretched leadership abilities


Stamina: passable Keeper: wretched
Playmaking: solid Passing: weak
Winger: weak Defending: inadequate
Scoring: inadequate Set Pieces: passable

Norm Reed
87 000 US$, 18 years, solid form
Has disastrous experience and weak leadership abilities [Powerful]


Stamina: inadequate Keeper: disastrous
Playmaking: passable Passing: poor
Winger: inadequate Defending: inadequate
Scoring: weak Set Pieces: wretched

Agostino Romero
33 000 US$, 20 years, excellent form
Has disastrous experience and inadequate leadership abilities


Stamina: inadequate Keeper: disastrous
Playmaking: passable Passing: weak
Winger: poor Defending: wretched
Scoring: wretched Set Pieces: wretched

Clair Chung
13 000 US$, 20 years, inadequate form
Has disastrous experience and passable leadership abilities


Stamina: weak Keeper: disastrous
Playmaking: poor Passing: poor
Winger: passable Defending: weak
Scoring: poor Set Pieces: weak

Peter Fröer
40 000 US$, 19 years, passable form
Has disastrous experience and weak leadership abilities


Stamina: solid Keeper: disastrous
Playmaking: poor Passing: poor
Winger: wretched Defending: passable
Scoring: weak Set Pieces: poor

Abel Parra
56 000 US$, 28 years, solid form
Has weak experience and poor leadership abilities [Quick]


Stamina: weak Keeper: wretched
Playmaking: inadequate Passing: weak
Winger: weak Defending: passable
Scoring: weak Set Pieces: poor

Otto Lackner
37 000 US$, 21 years, solid form
Has wretched experience and inadequate leadership abilities [Powerful]


Stamina: excellent Keeper: disastrous
Playmaking: poor Passing: poor
Winger: weak Defending: passable
Scoring: poor Set Pieces: poor

Roland Is
54 000 US$, 19 years, passable form
Has disastrous experience and weak leadership abilities


Stamina: poor Keeper: disastrous
Playmaking: weak Passing: inadequate
Winger: weak Defending: inadequate
Scoring: weak Set Pieces: poor

Ovidiu Robu
129 000 US$, 19 years, passable form
Has disastrous experience and weak leadership abilities


Stamina: wretched Keeper: inadequate
Playmaking: disastrous Passing: disastrous
Winger: disastrous Defending: disastrous
Scoring: wretched Set Pieces: inadequate

Ezra Gandy
208 000 US$, 19 years, solid form
Has disastrous experience and inadequate leadership abilities


Stamina: weak Keeper: passable
Playmaking: wretched Passing: disastrous
Winger: disastrous Defending: disastrous
Scoring: wretched Set Pieces: disastrous

Alexander Alvarez
42 000 US$, 25 years, passable form
Has wretched experience and weak leadership abilities

Stamina: excellent Keeper: wretched
Playmaking: inadequate Passing: inadequate
Winger: inadequate Defending: weak
Scoring: wretched Set Pieces: passable

Censonis Marjugovs
46 000 US$, 19 years, solid form
Has disastrous experience and inadequate leadership abilities

Stamina: weak Keeper: disastrous
Playmaking: wretched Passing: wretched
Winger: wretched Defending: inadequate
Scoring: passable Set Pieces: inadequate

Dane Self
59 000 US$, 20 years, weak form
Has disastrous experience and passable leadership abilities

Stamina: passable Keeper: disastrous
Playmaking: poor Passing: wretched
Winger: passable Defending: weak
Scoring: inadequate Set Pieces: poor

Don Vega
0 US$, 41 years, weak form
Has wretched experience and inadequate leadership abilities

Stamina: weak Keeper: wretched
Playmaking: disastrous Passing: disastrous
Winger: disastrous Defending: disastrous
Scoring: disastrous Set Pieces: wretched

Kent Magnusson
48 000 US$, 21 years, solid form
Has disastrous experience and poor leadership abilities

Stamina: passable Keeper: disastrous
Playmaking: weak Passing: poor
Winger: passable Defending: poor
Scoring: weak Set Pieces: poor

King Capps
47 000 US$, 25 years, passable form
Has poor experience and inadequate leadership abilities [Quick]

Stamina: solid Keeper: wretched
Playmaking: inadequate Passing: disastrous
Winger: inadequate Defending: inadequate
Scoring: wretched Set Pieces: passable

Leif Kraus
32 000 US$, 26 years, weak form
Has disastrous experience and inadequate leadership abilities [Technical]

Stamina: passable Keeper: disastrous
Playmaking: passable Passing: disastrous
Winger: weak Defending: weak
Scoring: poor Set Pieces: disastrous

Lucjusz Siadaczka
40 000 US$, 18 years, weak form
Has disastrous experience and weak leadership abilities [Powerful]

Stamina: inadequate Keeper: disastrous
Playmaking: passable Passing: poor
Winger: wretched Defending: inadequate
Scoring: weak Set Pieces: weak

Luther Wilcox
22 000 US$, 20 years, weak form
Has disastrous experience and weak leadership abilities

Stamina: solid Keeper: disastrous
Playmaking: poor Passing: wretched
Winger: wretched Defending: passable
Scoring: wretched Set Pieces: passable

Manuel Antonio Bossio
34 000 US$, 20 years, inadequate form
Has disastrous experience and weak leadership abilities

Stamina: inadequate Keeper: disastrous
Playmaking: passable Passing: poor
Winger: wretched Defending: inadequate
Scoring: weak Set Pieces: weak

Pedro Menotti
114 000 US$, 22 years, inadequate form
Has disastrous experience and poor leadership abilities

Stamina: passable Keeper: inadequate
Playmaking: wretched Passing: disastrous
Winger: disastrous Defending: disastrous
Scoring: disastrous Set Pieces: disastrous

Remo Ciulla
43 000 US$, 20 years, weak form
Has disastrous experience and passable leadership abilities

Stamina: solid Keeper: disastrous
Playmaking: wretched Passing: poor
Winger: inadequate Defending: inadequate
Scoring: inadequate Set Pieces: poor

Richard Pineda
50 000 US$, 25 years, passable form
Has poor experience and inadequate leadership abilities [Head]

Stamina: weak Keeper: wretched
Playmaking: inadequate Passing: passable
Winger: poor Defending: inadequate
Scoring: wretched Set Pieces: poor

Roberto Kampen
104 000 US$, 31 years, weak form
Has poor experience and wretched leadership abilities

Stamina: excellent Keeper: inadequate
Playmaking: disastrous Passing: disastrous
Winger: wretched Defending: disastrous
Scoring: disastrous Set Pieces: weak

Sasa Vukovic
129 000 US$, 20 years, passable form
Has disastrous experience and inadequate leadership abilities

Stamina: disastrous Keeper: inadequate
Playmaking: disastrous Passing: disastrous
Winger: disastrous Defending: disastrous
Scoring: disastrous Set Pieces: wretched

Tudorel Diaconu
75 000 US$, 20 years, inadequate form
Has disastrous experience and weak leadership abilities

Stamina: wretched Keeper: inadequate
Playmaking: disastrous Passing: disastrous
Winger: disastrous Defending: disastrous
Scoring: disastrous Set Pieces: poor

[terpkristin]

Looking right off the bat, it appears you have about 6 keepers (players that have Keeper skill greater than wretched). You can probalby offload 4-5 of them (4 if you want to have a reserve keeper, 5 if you don't care).

I didn't go into detail on the rest of your squad, I'll try to look tonight after my dinner.

~terpk

[terpkristin]

Ok I've gone thru your entire roster. You can take my suggestions with a grain of salt, I didn't do the most thorough evaluation of your players, just looked at primary skills, supporting secondaries, and really looked for skills that were inadequate or above.

First off, you have 6 keepers. I'd get rid of 3 or 4 of them.
Certainly you can transfer market:
Kampen
Diaconu
Menotti

If you wanted one more, you could also transfer market: Vukovic

As for field players, these seemed to offer the least in terms of secondary skills:
Philip Cavanaugh
Agostino Romero
Clair Chung
Abel Parra
Kent Magnusson
Leif Kraus

So there are 9 or 10 players (depending on how you feel about having a 3rd GK) that you could probably easily relieve of their duties on your team, hopefully saving yourself some money (getting rid of some of your GK's, most of which are valued at over 100k will DEFINITELY help). Try transfer marketing all of your players, they may not sell, but it's worth giving it a shot before just firing them. Also, put your players out so that they expire right around league match time on Sunday (early Monday HT time), as that tends to be one of the primo times for people to look for recruits...

Good luck!!!
~terpk

[daedalus]

Originally posted by KevinNU7
fire 7 spokepersons. Hire two econmists. Cut the youth program to 10k unless you are already at solid. In the future fire 1 or 2 keeper coaches and hire 1 or 2 assistant coaches (3 is too much for a non keeper training team).I'm down with a lot of what Kevin said. The exception being the 3 goalkeeping coach part, I've had to move to the 3-7 ratio to keep my keeper in decent form - some people have had success with just 1 or 2, a lot of it will depend on how your starting keeper reacts to it.

Just because you CAN have 10 staffer at particular spots and some of the better off teams does, doesn't mean you HAVE to. When you're in the process of building up, consider ramping up the staff slowly. Having 3-5 spokesperson will do you well AND keep your financial situation more stable. Consider having 3, if your team is doing well, and only ramping up to 5, if your team is struggling and you need to keep Sponsors happy. Same thing with Sports Psychologist and having about 1-3 of them. Your team will train fastest with 10 coaches but you could slow it down a little and still have success with, say, 7 and not put yourself too deep into the poor house. Consider having 1-3 Physiotherapists on hand and setting training to as high as your can (97-100). As Kevin said, having 2-3 economists on hand to keep your interest payment down when your debt is above the dreaded 200 000 mark. Otherwise, 1 will do you just fine. Also, as Kevin said, if your Youth Program is still below solid, cut spending down to 10 000 (middle level) for now. At that spending level, it will cap you at Passable Youth Program. Annoying? Yes. But your team won't go away so quick. Once you get your econimics back in gear and pushes it back to 20 000 (maximium level), it will quickly jump to Solid and you can keep advancing then.

Slow but steady. DK's team is a good model for that. If you haven't already, you might consider checking out his dynasty.

[TheTrainisComming]

Thanks for all the help guys!!! If you have any other suggestions on how I can save/make money let me know.