Wither Midfield Ratings

[thealmighty]

Midfield begets possession, which begets scoring chances, right?

My problem is, after a year of Hattrick, I STILL am confounded by where, exactly, the midfield ratings come from.

Is the possession due to the rating (stars and such) or the stamina of the midfield? Or do the player ratings bring possession and stamina allows maintaining that advantage, or increasing it, in the 2nd half?

I STILL get a weak midfield though my players are better than they were 10 weeks ago (new players with better stats and several weeks of PM training tell me this is so).

How good/how many 'stars' do midfields need to get these passable and better ratings, and what, EXACTLY, is involved in the ratings? If I go all out offensive with both wingers and IMs, does this detract much from midfield? I read that offensive wingbacks help wing attack, but I assume they retard wing defense at the same time.

Where should I go/what should I read, to get a handle on how this stuff works?

I haven't put much study into the game, and have done well (won my series in div VI last year- not a bot group- and 2nd so far in div V series rated 22nd last week) but will need more intelligence and insight if I want to win series and move up.

Thanks for patience and help (if I get some with the long-windedness here).

[vex]

How many PICs did you get in at the beginning of the season?

[Mr. Wednesday]

The operative section in the rules is section 14, The Player. It gives qualitative descriptions of what goes into each zonal rating as well as what the effects of individual orders are.

[Vince]

From the HT Rules:

"In each half a number of attacking plays are made. The team with the strongest midfield are most likely to get the largest number of attacks. In the second half, the teams stamina starts to get important, this makes for a team with a strong midfield yet lacking in fitness might dominate a first half, while the other team take over in the second."

"Midfield -
Playmaking inner midfielders
Playmaking wingers"

So your midfield rating (Weak, Inadequate, Solid, etc) comes straight from your ratings there (I believe it's modified a bit by stamina). Possession is determined in the first half by your playmaking, and in the second half by your playmaking and stamina.

Scoring chances are granted seemingly slightly at random, and the team with better possession gets a weighted advantage in scoring chances.

Also from the HT rules...

"The home team are helped by their spectators. You´ll ordinarily have a larger percentage at possessing the ball home than away. Referees also tend to award the home side penaltys more often than the away side…

If the match is a derby - with two teams from the same region - neither team will get the home team advantage. "

It seems to me that the basic assumption is that homefield advantage is worth about one midfield rating. Team Spirit also plays a large role, but I don't know any specific ratio or anything.

[-Panther]

Stamina is equally important for a midfielder as playmaking.

A passable playmaker with excellent stamina will perform better, thus giving you a higher midfield rating than an excellent playmaker with poor stamina.

I see it like this (round up). stamina determines how much of his playmaking he can contribute.
<PRE style="font-size: 8pt; line-height: .75">
stamina % multiplier
excellent 100 1
solid 87.5 .88
passable 75 .75
inadequate 62.5 .63
weak 50 .5
poor 37.5 .38
wretched 25 .25
disastrous 12.5 .13
</PRE>I don't use 0 since even with disastrous stamina, they'll still contribute some of their playmaking.

player A
-- playmaking: excellent
-- stamina: excellent

player B
-- playmaking: excellent
-- stamina: passable

player C
-- playmaking: solid
-- stamina: excellent

player D
-- playmaking: passable
-- stamina: excellent

take the playmaking and multiply it by the stamina multiplier so

player A = 8 * 1 = 8 = excellent midfield value (%100)

player B = 8 * .75 = 6 = passable midfield value (%75)

player C = 8 * 1 = 7 = solid midfield value (%100)

player D = 6 * 1 = 6 = passable midfield value (%100)

so, the way I figure it, player B is no better than player D because of his lack of stamina.

I know my way will be torn apart but it's just what I go by. Odds are I could be very wrong :)

[KevinNU7]

Panther, I like it. I'd say the % should drop lower but that is just me. If you look at a solid PM with poor stamina and a passable PM with passable PM they usually perform about the same (2-2.5 stars)

[thealmighty]

I only got ONE PIC at the start of the season because I was coming in as a D VI team, so had tough opponents after week 1, and only won 2 cup games.

[vex]

Originally posted by -Panther
Stamina is equally important for a midfielder as playmaking.

A passable playmaker with excellent stamina will perform better, thus giving you a higher midfield rating than an excellent playmaker with poor stamina.

I see it like this (round up). stamina determines how much of his playmaking he can contribute.
<PRE style="font-size: 8pt; line-height: .75">
stamina % multiplier
excellent 100 1
solid 87.5 .88
passable 75 .75
inadequate 62.5 .63
weak 50 .5
poor 37.5 .38
wretched 25 .25
disastrous 12.5 .13
</PRE>I don't use 0 since even with disastrous stamina, they'll still contribute some of their playmaking.

player A
-- playmaking: excellent
-- stamina: excellent

player B
-- playmaking: excellent
-- stamina: passable

player C
-- playmaking: solid
-- stamina: excellent

player D
-- playmaking: passable
-- stamina: excellent

take the playmaking and multiply it by the stamina multiplier so

player A = 8 * 1 = 8 = excellent midfield value (%100)

player B = 8 * .75 = 6 = passable midfield value (%75)

player C = 8 * 1 = 7 = solid midfield value (%100)

player D = 6 * 1 = 6 = passable midfield value (%100)

so, the way I figure it, player B is no better than player D because of his lack of stamina.

I know my way will be torn apart but it's just what I go by. Odds are I could be very wrong :)


What about formidable stamina?

[-Panther]

since formidable stamina isn't truly permanent, it will drop to excellent, I don't consider it. and I've never heard anyone say their middies played any better (star or rating wise) with formidable stamina over excellent.

excellent and below will stay until they get old, but since formidable tends towards excellent, I doubt there is any difference worth warranting.