Team Spirit... This is sad.....

[Havok]

This is my first week with a Solid coach with Poor leadership. Before him i had a passable coach with inadequate leadership. My team Spirint would drop from POE to delirious after the tuesday update, then from Delirious to satisfied after the economic update. That wasn't to bad really, i still had a high Satisfied for games....

But now with my Poor leadership coach my TS dropped from POE to delirious after the sunday update, then from delrious to satisfied after the TUESDAY UPDATE!!! You gotta be freaking kidding me. What the hell is the point of PIC'ing now?? If your TS falls 2 levels in 3 days??? I understand HT trying to make Leadership more important for coachs. But all this does is make the gap between new teams and older teams who can afford the rediculous amount of money for a solid/passable coach even greater.


Anyone have this problem with a coach with poor leadership???


P.S. my team leader is a Sympathetic/solid

[damnMikeBrown]

The conference's are rife with guys complaining about 8week drops in their coach leadership too. I don't know how common it is, but it's there. I'm hoping that a decent TS won't be the domain of the daytrader and already wealthy teams. If you have to fork over $2m every other yearl because the coach looses 2 levels of leadership per season, then that's just junk.

[-Panther]

I'd give it a week and see if it settles down a little. I've got a solid/poor coach and my TS averages ok.

poor seems to drop 1.5 levels between matches.

if you've got a low satisfied before the PIC, you'll go to high satisfied at next game 8 out of 10 times.

if mid satisfied before the PIC, you'll go low delirious at next game 8 out of 10 times.

if high satisfied before PIC, you'll go mid delirious at next game 8 out of 10 times.

poor LS is much more dependant on TS sublevel than high LS. some weeks it will drop what seems to the same before PIC.

atleast that's how my TS has been all season and I've got a sympathetic/passable leader.

as for your TS dropping that fast, mine never drops that fast, all I can think is maybe it dropped like that due to the initial loss of the inadequate LS coach. see if it levels off next week.

[daedalus]

Originally posted by damnMikeBrown
The conference's are rife with guys complaining about 8week drops in their coach leadership too. I don't know how common it is, but it's there. I'm hoping that a decent TS won't be the domain of the daytrader and already wealthy teams. If you have to fork over $2m every other yearl because the coach looses 2 levels of leadership per season, then that's just junk.That was a bug. NAIWF had that problem. It was fixed. The Rules page clearly states that it should be roughly 2 seasons for a drop.Skills decay
Coaches will slowly have their leadership skills decay. Decay will not start until the coach has been in the club for more than a season. Our "in character" reasoning is that a coach that might seem bustling with energy and inspiration when he first arrived, after a few seasons loses some of his "edge". He has simply grown bored with the job.

Finally, once a coach reaches disastrous leadership (and that would typically take perhaps 10 seasons for a coach starting with solid leadership), the decay starts hitting his trainer skills instead of the depleted leadership. Let us underline that the decay is very slow, although it will go somewhat faster for coaches with very high leadership, so a solid leader might go down to passable after 1-2 seasons (more likely after 2 seasons or more though).

[daedalus]

Originally posted by Havok
But now with my Poor leadership coach my TS dropped from POE to delirious after the sunday update, then from delrious to satisfied after the TUESDAY UPDATE!!! You gotta be freaking kidding me.My PoE has dropped to Delirious already (as of the Tuesday update) with my Weak Leadership coach. So, having it dropped to Satisfied isn't out of the realm of possibility.What the hell is the point of PIC'ing now?? If your TS falls 2 levels in 3 days???Simple: don't PIC. You went into a poor leadeship coach fully knowing it would allow your TS to drop quickly.I understand HT trying to make Leadership more important for coachs. But all this does is make the gap between new teams and older teams who can afford the rediculous amount of money for a solid/passable coach even greater.Or you could have given up the one extra week of training to go with a passable coach with a higher leadership, if TS is important to you.

[damnMikeBrown]

Daed, you're incorrect about it being a bug. The people complaining about it in the conference have received no redress about it, with the GM's they contacted saying that it's working as intended.

The rule says it might go down in 1-2 seasons. It's doesn't way it won't go down in 1/2 a season.

[daedalus]

Are they existing coaches or newly hired coaches?

For some reason, I'm under the impression that newly hired coaches are middle of the level and, if they say, it can take up to 2 seasons to go down, I can only assume that one season would be the minimum. (But, then, we all know where "assume" leads.)

For existing coaches, I'm guessing you're on your own, since it was random and you never knew how high a leadership you got within the level. Mine has already dropped a level.

[NAIWF]

Just to clarify, the reason mine was a bug was that my coach was hired after the season began. If it's a coach that was on the team last season, you're subject to losing a level at any time.

[DukeRulesMAB]

What daed said...my assumption is that pre-existing coaches (who have been hired for at least a season) are subject to begin dropping at any time. And the old coaches had "high" and "low" levels of leadership, so it might not take very long for a low passable (or whatever) to drop.