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BreizhManu
10-11-2003, 04:36 AM
Igor Albaret (17375869)
17 years, passable form, healthy
A pleasant guy who is temperamental and upright.
Has disastrous experience and weak leadership abilities.


Speciality: Head

Nationality: France
Assessed value: 44 000 Euro
Wage: 700 Euro/week
Owner: BZH Celtics FC
Warnings: 0


Stamina: inadequate Goaltending: disastrous
Playmaking: weak Passing: poor
Winger: inadequate Defending: inadequate
Scoring: poor Set Pieces: wretched

Transfer listed but I could use him as a backup wing back

Alf
10-11-2003, 04:29 PM
Gérard Mermaz (17371727)
17 years, passable form, healthy
A controversial person who is balanced and dishonest.
Has disastrous experience and disastrous leadership abilities.

Nationality: France
Assessed value: 43 000 Euro
Wage: 700 Euro/week
Owner: Alf Trickers
Warnings: 0


Stamina: inadequate Goaltending: disastrous
Playmaking: wretched Passing: poor
Winger: wretched Defending: solid
Scoring: wretched Set Pieces: wretched

On sale for $160K :D

mckerney
10-11-2003, 06:44 PM
Víctor Sequeiros (17394142)
18 years, passable form, healthy
A popular guy who is balanced and honest.
Has disastrous experience and passable leadership abilities.


Speciality: Head

Nationality: USA
Assessed value: 14 000 US$
Wage: 560 US$/week
Owner: Square Pegs
Warnings: 0


Stamina: weak Goaltending: disastrous
Playmaking: disastrous Passing: inadequate
Winger: poor Defending: weak
Scoring: poor Set Pieces: inadequate

Career Goals: 0
Career Hattricks: 0
League goals this season: 0
Cup goals this season: 0

Yawn

apoc
10-11-2003, 06:49 PM
Ernest Johnson (17394194)
22 years, passable form, healthy
A controversial person who is balanced and dishonest.
Has disastrous experience and inadequate leadership abilities.

Nationality: USA
Assessed value: 261 000 US$
Wage: 2 140 US$/week
Owner: Knights of the Apocalypse
Warnings: 0


Stamina: wretched Goaltending: passable
Playmaking: disastrous Passing: disastrous
Winger: disastrous Defending: disastrous
Scoring: disastrous Set Pieces: disastrous

DukeRulesMAB
10-11-2003, 06:50 PM
After two straight great pulls, we were due for a firing one, and got the expected.

David Mayes (17394275)
18 years, passable form, healthy
A controversial person who is calm and infamous.
Has disastrous experience and inadequate leadership abilities.

Nationality: USA
Assessed value: 8 000 US$
Wage: 540 US$/week
Owner: Frankfort United
Warnings: 0


Stamina: poor Goaltending: disastrous
Playmaking: weak Passing: poor
Winger: inadequate Defending: poor
Scoring: poor Set Pieces: wretched


Canned.

Raven Hawk
10-11-2003, 06:56 PM
I'm torn on this one. He is worse than my worst trainee, but he looks to be a only a couple of training weeks away from a pop in scoring. Hmmmm . . . decisions, decisions, decisions. . . .

Arden Dotson (17394146)
17 years, passable form, healthy
I speak US English!


A pleasant guy who is temperamental and dishonest.
Has disastrous experience and wretched leadership abilities.

Nationality: USA
Assessed value: 55 000 US$
Wage: 760 US$/week
Owner: Gargoyles
Warnings: 0


Stamina: poor Goaltending: disastrous
Playmaking: inadequate Passing: poor
Winger: weak Defending: poor
Scoring: passable Set Pieces: poor

NAIWF
10-11-2003, 06:58 PM
Marc Maples (17394202)
19 years, passable form, healthy
A pleasant guy who is temperamental and upright.
Has disastrous experience and wretched leadership abilities.

Nationality: USA
Assessed value: 114 000 US$

Stamina: disastrous Goaltending: inadequate
Playmaking: disastrous Passing: disastrous
Winger: disastrous Defending: disastrous
Scoring: disastrous Set Pieces: disastrous

Will be listed for 4K tomorrow

Havok
10-11-2003, 07:06 PM
Misfitz best ever youth pull.... if only he was 17!!!!!!!!!!

I guess i can't bitch much anymore, he should sell for at least 100k. Probally a good bit more. But of course, my number 1 rivial in my divison pulled a 18 year old solid PM,passable winger, inadequate passing :(


Pierre Marino (17394593)
18 years, passable form, healthy
A controversial person who is balanced and upright.
Has disastrous experience and inadequate leadership abilities.

Nationality: USA
Assessed value: 152 000 US$
Wage: 1 280 US$/week
Owner: Maniacal Misfitz
Warnings: 0


Stamina: weak Goaltending: disastrous
Playmaking: wretched Passing: wretched
Winger: poor Defending: solid
Scoring: solid Set Pieces: poor

-Panther
10-11-2003, 07:08 PM
hit excellent YS and got more shit

Duane Wilson (17394693)
19 years, passable form, healthy
A controversial person who is balanced and infamous.
Has disastrous experience and passable leadership abilities.

Speciality: Powerful

Nationality: USA
Assessed value: 28 000 US$
Wage: 640 US$/week
Owner: Tomahawks
Warnings: 0

Stamina: inadequate Goaltending: disastrous
Playmaking: poor Passing: passable
Winger: weak Defending: wretched
Scoring: weak Set Pieces: poor

thesloppy
10-11-2003, 07:34 PM
Derek Downing (17394829)
18 years, passable form, healthy
A pleasant guy who is balanced and honest.
Has disastrous experience and inadequate leadership abilities.

Nationality: USA
Assessed value: 68 000 US$
Wage: 840 US$/week
Owner: Hobo Chunks
Warnings: 0


Stamina: weak Goaltending: disastrous
Playmaking: weak Passing: wretched
Winger: passable Defending: solid
Scoring: wretched Set Pieces: wretched


Only notable pull for the chunks in a little while, and immediately moves into a starting wing-back role.

FrogMan
10-11-2003, 07:38 PM
WOOHOO!!! BEST... PITTBULL... PULLED... EVER!!!!

This dude is the perfect wingback trainee, nice solid/solid combination. The first time I get an outfielder with a solid skill, I get one with two. WOOT!!!!



Stuart Dunne (17395224)
17 years, passable form, healthy
A nasty fellow who is temperamental and honest.
Has disastrous experience and poor leadership abilities.


Speciality: Powerful

Nationality: Canada
Assessed value: 212 000 C$ this is 106 000 US$
Wage: 2 000 C$/week
Owner: Pintendre Pittbulls
Warnings: 0


Stamina: poor Goaltending: disastrous
Playmaking: wretched Passing: wretched
Winger: solid Defending: solid
Scoring: wretched Set Pieces: weak


I now his value isn't insanely high for a double solid dude, but he made my day. Will go on the market tomorrow as I don't train defense and I should be able to get more money from this 17 year old to maybe shop for a older, more experienced solid defender for cheaper.

Question to all defender trainers out there: what's the going rate for a player like that, this late in the season?

FM

Masked
10-11-2003, 07:43 PM
Cubs and Red Sox shooting for the World Series

Havok and I getting good youth pulls in the same week.

Off to stock up on canned goods and bottled water.


Florian Kent (17395551)
19 years, passable form, healthy
A sympathetic guy who is balanced and dishonest.
Has disastrous experience and solid leadership abilities.

Nationality: USA
Assessed value: 249 000 US$
Wage: 1 840 US$/week
Owner: South Bay Saints
Warnings: 0


Stamina: disastrous Goaltending: passable
Playmaking: disastrous Passing: disastrous
Winger: disastrous Defending: disastrous
Scoring: disastrous Set Pieces: wretched

Professor58
10-11-2003, 08:37 PM
Phillip Lim (17395672)
17 years, passable form, healthy
A sympathetic guy who is balanced and honest.
Has disastrous experience and wretched leadership abilities.

Nationality: USA
Assessed value: 100 000 US$
Wage: 980 US$/week
Owner: High Tops
Warnings: 0


Stamina: wretched Goaltending: disastrous
Playmaking: inadequate Passing: inadequate
Winger: weak Defending: weak
Scoring: solid Set Pieces: wretched


Since I train forwards, he will stay and get more training.

Havok
10-11-2003, 09:19 PM
Froogy gets the "I hate you" award this week!

Great pull man...

FrogMan
10-11-2003, 09:26 PM
wow, I feel so honored :blush: :D

FM

TonyR
10-11-2003, 09:27 PM
David Blackburn (17411931)
19 years, passable form, healthy
A pleasant guy who is balanced and honest.
Has disastrous experience and wretched leadership abilities.

Nationality: USA
Assessed value: 22 000 US$
Wage: 600 US$/week
Owner: Bearcats
Warnings: 0

Stamina: weak Goaltending: disastrous
Playmaking: weak Passing: wretched
Winger: poor Defending: wretched
Scoring: passable Set Pieces: weak
Not that bad of a pull. He stays for now.

FrogMan
10-11-2003, 09:31 PM
Still nobody has any idea at what price I should start him?

I know I could start him low and let the market take care of it, but I hate selling for less than fair value and I usually like starting my players a bit high. I draw a blank on this kind of 17yo player...

Anybody?

FM

BreizhManu
10-11-2003, 09:46 PM
Originally posted by FrogMan
Still nobody has any idea at what price I should start him?

I know I could start him low and let the market take care of it, but I hate selling for less than fair value and I usually like starting my players a bit high. I draw a blank on this kind of 17yo player...

Anybody?

FM

I have no idea, so I looked at the transfer market and saw a similar player (in sweden) :

Patrik Bergstedt (15754822)
19 years, inadequate form, healthy
A pleasant guy who is balanced and honest.
Has disastrous experience and weak leadership abilities.

Nationalité: Sverige
Assessed value: 229 000 Euro
Wage: 1 860 Euro/week
Owner: I BÖGERI
Warnings: 0


Stamina: inadequate Goaltending: disastrous
Playmaking: inadequate Passing: weak
Winger: solid Defending: solid
Scoring: poor Set Pieces: weak

current offer 64 k€

I'd say you should list him near his value

FrogMan
10-11-2003, 09:53 PM
yeah, but that player is 19yo, there should be a premium on my player because even though we're getting late in the season, he still is a 17yo, that's the factor I have a hard time figuring...

Thanks Breizh!

FM

TredWel
10-11-2003, 10:05 PM
John Hay (17412337)
17 years, passable form, healthy
A sympathetic guy who is temperamental and honest.
Has disastrous experience and weak leadership abilities.

Nationality: USA
Assessed value: 5 000 US$
Wage: 520 US$/week
Owner: Scranton Slime
Warnings: 0


Stamina: weak Goaltending: disastrous
Playmaking: wretched Passing: poor
Winger: poor Defending: poor
Scoring: weak Set Pieces: inadequate

The first quick fire in a couple of weeks.

GoldenEagle
10-11-2003, 11:17 PM
Cecil Cockrell
38 000 US$, 17 years, passable form
Has disastrous experience and weak leadership abilities [Technical]

Stamina: inadequate Keeper: disastrous
Playmaking: weak Passing: inadequate
Winger: poor Defending: poor
Scoring: inadequate Set Pieces: poor

Not a superstar, but better than nothing.

Fonzie
10-11-2003, 11:34 PM
"Excellent" YS:

Horace Mclendon (17412919)
17 years, passable form, healthy
A nasty fellow who is temperamental and dishonest.
Has disastrous experience and weak leadership abilities.

Speciality: Unpredictable

Nationality: USA
Assessed value: 14 000 US$
Wage: 560 US$/week
Owner: Gasmasters
Warnings: 0


Stamina: inadequate Goaltending: disastrous
Playmaking: wretched Passing: inadequate
Winger: weak Defending: wretched
Scoring: wretched Set Pieces: inadequate

-----------

Fired.

tucker rocky
10-12-2003, 01:00 AM
My pull wasn't even worth posting. Anyway fired quickly.

Havok
10-12-2003, 01:11 AM
Originally posted by FrogMan
Still nobody has any idea at what price I should start him?

I know I could start him low and let the market take care of it, but I hate selling for less than fair value and I usually like starting my players a bit high. I draw a blank on this kind of 17yo player...

Anybody?

FM

List him for like 250k... Im sure he will go much higher. I'd say you'll probally get at least 350k.

NAIWF
10-12-2003, 01:26 AM
Havoc's judgment sounds about right FM. If he didn't have the nasty/tempermental bit, I'd put a bid on him, but I already have 2 headhunters on the back line as it is and I can't afford a loss of a level of TS either ;)

mckerney
10-12-2003, 02:00 AM
I'm not sure if I'd trust Havok's judgement here. Sure he's been playing hattrick a while, but what the hell does he know about good youth pulls?

damnMikeBrown
10-12-2003, 03:49 AM
Jair Blanco (17412144)
20 years, passable form, healthy
A controversial person who is temperamental and honest.
Has disastrous experience and passable leadership abilities.

Nationality: USA
Assessed value: 155 000 US$
Wage: 1 380 US$/week
Owner: Aviators
Warnings: 0


Stamina: disastrous Goaltending: inadequate
Playmaking: disastrous Passing: disastrous
Winger: wretched Defending: disastrous
Scoring: disastrous Set Pieces: disastrous

He's a week or two from popping passable. Put him up for $1k.

Vince
10-12-2003, 05:59 AM
All of a sudden my youth squad is the promised land...my third solid pull in five weeks...

Charles Blum (17425771)
18 years, passable form, healthy
A sympathetic guy who is balanced and honest.
Has disastrous experience and weak leadership abilities.


Speciality: Technical

Nationality: USA
Assessed value: 24 000 US$
Wage: 620 US$/week
Owner: Isla Vista Vandals
Warnings: 0


Stamina: poor Goaltending: disastrous
Playmaking: weak Passing: poor
Winger: solid Defending: wretched
Scoring: disastrous Set Pieces: poor

Anyone interested in a solid winger? I'll probably put him on the market starting at like 20k...

Rich1033
10-12-2003, 06:42 AM
Very nice, I will keep him since I train scoring. In the 3 weeks since I have hit excellent YS I have had two good pulls. Its about freakin time :D


Courtney Terrell (17427142)
18 years, passable form, healthy
A pleasant guy who is calm and upright.
Has disastrous experience and passable leadership abilities.

Speciality: Technical

Nationality: USA
Assessed value: 91 000 US$
Wage: 960 US$/week

Stamina: inadequate Goaltending: disastrous
Playmaking: poor Passing: disastrous
Winger: weak Defending: poor
Scoring: solid Set Pieces: wretched

robbgmaier
10-12-2003, 07:19 AM
my third consecutive non-sucky youth pull

Dan Castellanos (17428468)
19 years, passable form, healthy
A controversial person who is balanced and honest.
Has disastrous experience and poor leadership abilities.

Nationality: USA
Assessed value: 98 000 US$
Wage: 1 020 US$/week
Owner: goldurnears
Warnings: 0


Stamina: weak Goaltending: disastrous
Playmaking: solid Passing: poor
Winger: weak Defending: passable
Scoring: wretched Set Pieces: poor



too bad about that stamina, or the fact that he is almost no longer a teenager. Now I just need to try and figure if he is close to popping in playmaking (I'm guessing no, I will spend some time on the transfer market this afternoon and try and figure it out).

FrogMan
10-12-2003, 08:28 AM
Originally posted by Havok
List him for like 250k... Im sure he will go much higher. I'd say you'll probally get at least 350k.

Thanks Havok. That's about what I had in mind, 250-300k. FWIW, HAM's transfer market evaluation tool says 986k C$ or 493k UC$, I find this kind of high, but wouldn't mind it one bit :)

I'll probably put him on the market around 1 or 2 pm eastern today, most probably starting him at 250 or 275k...

FM

FrogMan
10-12-2003, 09:59 AM
just to had to this possible price discussion for my youngster, I asked the question in the Canadian conference, in the youth pull thread and a div II Canadian defense trainer said at a rough guess, 1.2 to 1.5 million C$, that would be 600k to 750k US$ :eek:

I've got my doubts, but I'll take whatever will come around :)

FM

Havok
10-12-2003, 11:39 AM
Originally posted by mckerney
I'm not sure if I'd trust Havok's judgement here. Sure he's been playing hattrick a while, but what the hell does he know about good youth pulls?

OUCH!

Havok
10-12-2003, 11:41 AM
Originally posted by FrogMan
just to had to this possible price discussion for my youngster, I asked the question in the Canadian conference, in the youth pull thread and a div II Canadian defense trainer said at a rough guess, 1.2 to 1.5 million C$, that would be 600k to 750k US$ :eek:

I've got my doubts, but I'll take whatever will come around :)

FM

Hell it wouldn't surprise me if ya got 650k..... that is 1 badass youth pull

FrogMan
10-12-2003, 11:58 AM
I asked the guy who mentionned that price range if he was serious and he said he bought a very similar player 2 seasons ago and then plaid 1.5 mil C$ (750k U$)... Not getting my hopes up too much, I put Stuart on the market a few minutes ago with a starting price of 275k. Now it's wait and see :)

FM

condors
10-13-2003, 06:03 AM
Shannon Mora (17466595)
17 years, passable form, healthy
A pleasant guy who is balanced and righteous.
Has disastrous experience and wretched leadership abilities.

Nationality: USA
Assessed value: 36 000 US$
Wage: 660 US$/week
Owner: Flying Condors
Warnings: 0


Stamina: inadequate Goaltending: disastrous
Playmaking: inadequate Passing: wretched
Winger: weak Defending: weak
Scoring: inadequate Set Pieces: wretched

Doug5984
10-13-2003, 11:28 AM
Originally posted by FrogMan
WOOHOO!!! BEST... PITTBULL... PULLED... EVER!!!!

This dude is the perfect wingback trainee, nice solid/solid combination. The first time I get an outfielder with a solid skill, I get one with two. WOOT!!!!



Stuart Dunne (17395224)
17 years, passable form, healthy
A nasty fellow who is temperamental and honest.
Has disastrous experience and poor leadership abilities.


Speciality: Powerful

Nationality: Canada
Assessed value: 212 000 C$ this is 106 000 US$
Wage: 2 000 C$/week
Owner: Pintendre Pittbulls
Warnings: 0


Stamina: poor Goaltending: disastrous
Playmaking: wretched Passing: wretched
Winger: solid Defending: solid
Scoring: wretched Set Pieces: weak


I now his value isn't insanely high for a double solid dude, but he made my day. Will go on the market tomorrow as I don't train defense and I should be able to get more money from this 17 year old to maybe shop for a older, more experienced solid defender for cheaper.

Question to all defender trainers out there: what's the going rate for a player like that, this late in the season?

FM

I would say his market value is atleast $350k(probably a lot more), since I just sold my formidable defender and am looking for another trainiee- I would really like to buy this player.

bigjdotcom01
10-13-2003, 12:01 PM
My excellent youth squad produced a "fast food" employee. He is listed for $1K, hopefully some n00b will nibble.

FrogMan
10-13-2003, 12:06 PM
Originally posted by Doug5984
I would say his market value is atleast $350k(probably a lot more), since I just sold my formidable defender and am looking for another trainiee- I would really like to buy this player.

Doug, he's on the market in Canada. Starting price is 275k and there's already been a bid, by the current Canadian U20 coach :)

...

And as I type this, I see you have raised for him, thanks and good luck.

On IRC (#htcanada) yesterday, some people were saying he may go up to possibly 600k to 750k. One (me at least) can only hope :)

FM

Doug5984
10-13-2003, 12:24 PM
Originally posted by FrogMan
Doug, he's on the market in Canada. Starting price is 275k and there's already been a bid, by the current Canadian U20 coach :)

...

And as I type this, I see you have raised for him, thanks and good luck.

On IRC (#htcanada) yesterday, some people were saying he may go up to possibly 600k to 750k. One (me at least) can only hope :)

FM

well $600k seems a little to high for me, but I have a solid / solid (about to bump to excellent wingback) with very similar secondaries with a value of only $96k so I kinda think this player is a high defending (or winger)... In a few seasons he could be a great Solid / Outstanding wingback hopefully for me....

edit: I just noticed his bidding ends at 11:55 central time on wednesday, I have a test at 12....it will be close, but hopefully I can get him (might have to run to class and show up a few minutes late, yeah I know I am addicted to HT :p )

FrogMan
10-13-2003, 12:30 PM
the Canadian U20 coach is Fighting Monks and he just raised your 300k to 425k, WOOHOO!!!!

I don't know if he's online during the day though, good luck anyway!

FM

Doug5984
10-13-2003, 12:34 PM
I upped it to $450, hopefully that will help drive off buyers who may only slightly be interested and help me get a better deal...I won't be upping the price anymore until the bidding ends, I can't spend all my money on one player especially since I need help on offense

FrogMan
10-13-2003, 12:40 PM
I understand that. You may also be caught in a very tough fight with that Canadian manager. I don't know how much you have in the bank, but he's in div II in Canada and has been playing since April 2002 so he most probably knows what he's doing.

FM

FrogMan
10-13-2003, 12:51 PM
huh, Doug, I think the Fighting Monks want to get tough. They just raised the bid to 600k... Sorry for you, happy, happy for me :)

FM

Nyarlahotep
10-13-2003, 12:52 PM
Tory Henderson (17413029)
19 years, passable form, healthy
A sympathetic guy who is balanced and dishonest.
Has disastrous experience and weak leadership abilities.


Speciality: Powerful

Nationality: USA
Assessed value: 57 000 US$
Wage: 800 US$/week
Owner: Arkham Avengers
Warnings: 0


Stamina: weak Goaltending: disastrous
Playmaking: poor Passing: weak
Winger: weak Defending: passable
Scoring: inadequate Set Pieces: poor

Doug5984
10-13-2003, 02:04 PM
Originally posted by FrogMan
huh, Doug, I think the Fighting Monks want to get tough. They just raised the bid to 600k... Sorry for you, happy, happy for me :)

FM

well that is great news for you, I was pretty sure sicne he is in Div II that he def. has the money and the knowledge to get this player at market value (even higher if he watned to)...but I still had an outside shot, oh well time for me to go shopping for a excellent forward now.

Alf
10-15-2003, 05:26 AM
Originally posted by Alf
Gérard Mermaz (17371727)
17 years, passable form, healthy
A controversial person who is balanced and dishonest.
Has disastrous experience and disastrous leadership abilities.

Nationality: France
Assessed value: 43 000 Euro
Wage: 700 Euro/week
Owner: Alf Trickers
Warnings: 0


Stamina: inadequate Goaltending: disastrous
Playmaking: wretched Passing: poor
Winger: wretched Defending: solid
Scoring: wretched Set Pieces: wretched

On sale for $160K :D

Sold for $160K. The buyer plans to train him a couple of seasons and sell for $1.5M. Great !