Something I may be a little clueless about...

[Poli]

I like/hate The Afoci and all, but the running for Canada thing confused me. I mean, after all, I know Canada replaced North Dakota as a state in 1993 and all...but that's not the issue here.

What I have seen is (no offense to anyone but The Afoci, please) that apparently players can run for training positions outside of their own country. I suppose I should have put 2 and 2 together when I found out Lytic was a trainer in Korea (I hope that's right). I just thought maybe he was currently stationed there or something. Kind of confused me, but not to the point I wanted to investigate or even casually question why.

Then as I recall, I think I've heard some other rumblings about others trying to win training positions in various countries.

I know most of us want to take a training position. And there's just two in any country. Makes the picking kind of tight. We see it here as well. How many people will start throwing their name in the hat. Might get to the point where we really do need a FOF vote before we head over to HT and vote.

I suppose I am just wondering what your motive would be to take a training position out of your own country. We're not allowed to have teams in other countries, so why should we be allowed to be elected there?

To me, it seems we should support our "foreign" players in their host countries and allow them to try and get these positions, if they so choose. Case in point, FrogMan. He'd probably make a fabulous trainer. Yet as far as I know, he didn't garner a vote either.

I'll end my rambling here by stating again I'm a little clueless about all this.

[FrogMan]

I heart you, ardent :)

Now to the case in point. My guess as to why somebody would want to take over a trainer position in a small country, I would think it's because of the challenge of trying to raise that country's competitive level. I'm sure lytic is not only managing their U20 team, but als fairly active on their conference, helping them out become a stronger nation. I'd see it as a mission.

As to why I didn't get a vote, I didn't expect any. First and foremost because I didn't advertise myself as being in the running. While you (my friend, ardent) think highly of me, there are some way better managers than me in Canada. some players who've been at it for far longer than I and are much more involved in the Canadian HT community on the conferences for example. I may post a whole lot in here, but there are only 4 of us Canadians in here (not complaining, it's a simple fact) and I think I have posted a grand total of 15 times on the conferences. Really not enough for a div IV manaher to attract attention at all. That, and the fact that I'm not so sure I'd have fun as a national manager. Way too political for me...

FM

[lytic]

I ran in South Korea, cause the South Korean that was the current manager didn't know what he was doing. I had posted on South Korea before I knew I could run there, since I had been there with the military.
Then Indyracing (former USA U20 Coach) ran and won in Nippon (Japan). He told me that you can run in any country. I was like... "oh." Then the SK U20 trainer went inactive. So I did my best to get players together and wait to see if he would come back. He finally came back and hired me as his "assistant coach." Basically I did all the work and he got all the credit. He sent me everyones stats and I searched for better ones and set lineups.
Needless to say, the South Koreans saw that I was doing all the work and I knew what I was doing. I had stiff competition and won by 1 vote against "TeamJULOP" from Sweden and beat the current U20 "Hello2" by 2 votes.

Why did I take the job? I wanted to help South Korea get better ratings and to help all the managers become better so they could enjoy this game (the game I hate so much) more! They don't have Hangul, so they have to work on broken English ratings and rules. I try my best to explain what is going on in this game. I have more people training better, I have people investing in the Youth Squad, and I have people telling me about their Youth Pulls and asking for advice!
South Korea is no longer a bottom 3 team... and I feel like I have turned them around. I don't think I am the sole reason, but it does feel good knowing that I could be a good reason why 30 people enjoy this game (even though I hate it). I will run again, and then hopefully pass the ropes to a South Korean Manager. I am getting them on their feet, teaching them to walk... pretty soon, they will be running.

Sure I wasn't the best manager for the job, I grew with South Korea. I was the one that was willing to put the time in to make SK better. I know TP6 or apoc would have done a better job. I pinged them a lot in the beginning. Even Gib and I have pung each other during our tours as U20 managers.
Now for the semi-selfish side...
#1 It is pretty cool to run a country.
#2 I can use this experience to help my platform for when I run in the USA.
#3 I learned a lot from the bests in the world.

I hope that gives you more insight in my South Korea tie...
I felt I could make U20 SK a better team; I feel I succeeded.

I'd be willing to tell more if you have any more questions.

[Poli]

Lytic,

It wasn't my intent to question you, per say. I was just wondering why I was hearing so much about others doing this. I figured you were probably stationed there, without asking. When I heard others talking about running in different countries, it confused me.

I see your point that you wanted to help S. Korea, and that is cool. It did provide you w/ experience as to some day possibly being the US coach, if that's what you desire.

Not that I want to question the others wanting to run in other countries, but I would think it would be a big ordeal to being a trainer in that sort of capacity and take a lot of time and dedication. I would hope that others trying to be elected in these positions realize this.

[lytic]

Getting a country on it's feet is A LOT OF WORK!
Language barriers can hinder as well.

I was just trying to give a little more insight why someone would do that. I was actually asked by "nzfooty" in SK to run. I was helping everyone and basically running the U20 team.

[damnMikeBrown]

It's all about the grift. . .