Any FBCB fans want to do a league?

[SirFozzie]

Basically what the topic says, I don't know of any FBCB leagues running, althoguh I don't really hang out at the FB forums, and I know quite a few FOFCers have this game.

Hey Heavy.. any chance we can get the post 2004-2005 Conference movement as an option in a patch? :)

Foz

[HeavyReign]

Originally posted by SirFozzie
Basically what the topic says, I don't know of any FBCB leagues running, althoguh I don't really hang out at the FB forums, and I know quite a few FOFCers have this game.

Hey Heavy.. any chance we can get the post 2004-2005 Conference movement as an option in a patch? :)

Foz

I think most people were waiting for the html output before starting a league. Now that it is available I think we'll start to see a few spring up.

As far as the new alignment, it could be possible once everything is sorted out for sure. The main complication is how the game would handle two version of the default league files. That would complicate things when editing the default settings.

[Radii]

I would likely be interested in joining a league.

[Philliesfan980]

I have to get the game, but I'd like to join something as well. Maybe I'll pick it up this weekend.

[SirFozzie]

Cool. That's three.

[Calis]

I know this is an oldie, but anything ever come of this?

After spending the last 3 days binging on FBCB, I have an itch to try it out multi.

Well, I have an urge to try some text sim multi, and this seems to be the one I'd enjoy the most.

Anywho, if anyone is still interested, add my name to the list.

[alterra]

Me too

[Marmel]

I'm game.

[The_herd]

Count me in. I'm interested.

[Dutch]

Sounds interesting to try, count me in.

[alterra]

Not sure if I should make this a new thread, but isn't the Big XII play as two conferences? In the game, it looks like just one conference to me...

[MrBug708]

If it gets going, I'll be more then happy to join. I'll need to buy the game, but that's fine. So Long as I get UCLA

[SirFozzie]

Looks like we have about 10... do we all want to be one conference, or spread about?

We could always do some East Coast-West Coast stuff (without the drive bys and the hypocritical calls for peace from the people who incited the damn thing, if you ask me), and put five in a conference in the East, and five in a west coast conference..



Alterra: the Big XII has two divisions, but it is one conference, I believe

[The_herd]

I would be interested in taking Marshall. Taking them to the NCAA tourney for the 1st time would make me a very happy coach.

[Dutch]

I guess it comes down to what would be more fun.

Do we want to have 10 guys in 10 different divisions or 10 guys in one division? That's a tough call that I can't make.

[GoldenEagle]

I would like to join as soon as I can afford the game, I may get it for Christmas.

[Calis]

I actually like the idea of splitting us up best.

Having us all over the place would basically make it playing SP imo, but it might be bad if we're all in the same conference also.

I think the coast idea could work, or a variation of. That would give us a good split.

Either way, I'm game. I'm not picky on which team I have either, so I can go anywhere.

[The_herd]

I like the East Coast/West Coast I idea. I think we should try to be in different conferences. It would be more interesting to see how the programs grow as opposed to stepping all over each year.

[SirFozzie]

Having 2-4 to a conference would allow rivalries-conference pride to flourish I think

[SirFozzie]

Talking with Marmel, on this:

East/West seems to work: Both Marm and I want to be Big East teams (he's a 'Cuse fan and me a BC fan, as if you didn't know), so here's what we're thinking:

two conferences per "Coast", with 2-4 people in each conference..

total of 10-12 coaches to start

[The_herd]

Sounds good here, I'm willing to jump in just about any conference except the SEC. If anyone wants to start out in the Mid-Majors I'm game for that.

[Calis]

Sounds like a plan, does it have to be an actual coast though? :)

I'm a Big XII man through and through.

I can really do about any conference though, I do however have a dislike for anything on the West Coast, so I'd prefer it not be that.

If I could be my Jayhawks, even better.

[SirFozzie]

Trying to see what folks want, besides, the Big XII is plenty west for me, although I know somebody (forget who) wanted a Cali team

[HeavyReign]

Originally posted by alterra
Not sure if I should make this a new thread, but isn't the Big XII play as two conferences? In the game, it looks like just one conference to me...

The Big 12 doesn't split the standings in basketball like they do in football:

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/confstandings?confID=8

The schedule is based on the split conference though like it is in real life.

[Chief Rum]

If there's room, I would be willing to do this. I see Kyle has already claimed UCLA. But he doesn't have the game. I do. ;) If I couldn't get UCLA, I would take Arizona or Stanford.

CR

[SirFozzie]

Chief: I'd be willing to take as many as we can, not a set amount, so sure, you'd be welcome :)

[GoldenEagle]

Chief - you have had the game, and what no dynasty report?

I am ashamed. ;)

[Godzilla Blitz]

As much as I'd like to, I'll have to pass. I'll follow along, though.

[alterra]

Big Ten, anybody? I'd like Wisconsin...

[SirFozzie]

Darn, was hoping we could grab ya GB,

you know you'll have a spot if you ever want to join, right? :)

[Godzilla Blitz]

SirFozzie,

Thanks! I will follow along and if it doesn't look like it will be too time consuming, I might ask to jump in during the second or third year if there is still room.

I have an irregular work schedule and lots of family demands now, so I've been avoiding things that have deadlines and stuff, but I actually gave this one some thought. With no trading involved, I think the time demands might be something I could handle, especially when our new baby starts to settle down (which will be soon, I hope).

Thanks again. I look forward to seeing how things go.

[cartman]

Hey Foz,

I just picked this game up, and would be interested in joining in. It looks like there really hasn't been a decision yet for how to structure the teams, but I'd vote for the dispersal theory, and only have 2 or 3 teams from each conference be player controlled.

My preferences for teams:

Texas
Gonzaga
Florida
St. Louis

[lcjjdnh]

I'm game too if no one minds. I'll take Seton Hall as long as it fits into whatever alignment you guys propose.

[SirFozzie]

welcome folks. It's going to be a few days as I figure out how to do this, and what to give everybody points wise or what have you,

But I think we're pretty much agreed that 2-4 should be a decent conference

[The_herd]

As I said above I'm flexable on what conference I play in, but would prefer to start in a mid-major. I would be willing to take Pepperdine if Cartman grabs the 'Zags. Other teams I'm interested in are:

Marshall
Louisville
Fresno State

[Balldog]

I'd like to join.

[MrBug708]

I'll defer UCLA to Chief and take Arizona

[Balldog]

If we go different conferences I'd take Ga Tech, otherwise I don't really care which team I get.

[SirFozzie]

Ok: If you want a team, post your FIRST choice (unless someone's already taken it)

Foz-BC (Big East)
MrBug: Arizona (PAC 10)
Marmel: Syracuse (Big East)
alterra: Wisconsin (Big 10)
Calis: Kansas (Rock, Chalk, JAYHAWK-Big XII)
Balldog: Ga Tech
The_Herd: Marshall (?)

[SirFozzie]

Oh yeah:

Chief Rum UCLA (Pac 10)

[Alan T]

I suck at basketball games as much as I do football games...


Since Balldog has my team, I guess I will go with Uconn since its just down the street from where I live :)

Have I mentioned recently how much fun Thanksgiving dinner was with the inlaws who work at Uconn since my team beat them? :) :)

[Balldog]

We could be better off going with just one conference, especially if we only have 9 players.

[MrBug708]

But no one is taking teams that are poor in prestige, so we'd all have to agree to take a conference that is poor all the way through

[Easy Mac]

If you guys can hold off a week for me to get the game, I'm all for it. I just need to re-establish the cash.

Sign me up for an ACC team (or a team from whatever east coast conference we use)

ACC
Clemson
FSU
Wake

Big East
Miami
VT
Pitt

[lcjjdnh]

I'll take Seton Hall (Big East)

[Balldog]

Originally posted by MrBug708
But no one is taking teams that are poor in prestige, so we'd all have to agree to take a conference that is poor all the way through

I agree. After looking at default prestige for teams in some conferences, here are some that look like everyone would start on the somewhat of the same page.

Missouri Valley Conference
Bradley - 56
Creighton - 75
Drake - 41
Evansville - 47
Illinois State - 54
Indiana State - 61
Northern Iowa - 52
Southern Illinois - 70
SW Missouri State - 56
Wichita State - 47

The Southern Conference is similar with exception of one team and overall the prestige is a lot lower.

Its just a suggestion. I would think it would make for a more competitive environment. Does not matter to me, either way I want to join.

[Calis]

Yeah, I have no problem switching to a low prestige conference if that's what people want.

I especially like the MVC if I get Wichita State, those are my hometown boys. :)

Overall though, I'll play in any conference as any team, and I can go with us all in one conference or split up, both have their advantages.

[The_herd]

I'd much rather see us go about 3 to conference. It would be better to get people playing teams they are interested in and care about. That would also give us more of a chance in meeting each of in the tourney.

I'm very flexible as to who I'll be. I'm willing to join someone in a low prestige conference, but I really would like to see us somewhat spread out to allow each person's program to grow a bit.

[Chief Rum]

I agree with herd. I don't we're that far from having at least three in every major conference. We already have two in the Pac-10, two in the ACC (coutning Easy Mac), and at least one in the other major conferences (Big 12, Big Ten, SEC, C-USA). We also have maybe 3-4 guys who haven't really picked teams yet, just given lists, I think. Maybe if we pushed what we want to do a little harder on the board (maybe a new thread?), we can find those third or fourth teams for a lot of these conferences.

CR

[tim86432]

Is it too late to get in?

[Chief Rum]

No, it isn't. In fact, we are probably still looking for a few more. :)

CR

[Alan T]

Between marm (Syracuse), Fozzie (BC) and me (Uconn), we have three in the Big East as well

[Balldog]

I'm cool with that as well.

[lcjjdnh]

Originally posted by Alan T
Between marm (Syracuse), Fozzie (BC) and me (Uconn), we have three in the Big East as well

I offered to take Seton Hall making four, would that be ok?

[SirFozzie]

Yeah, that's about the limit, 4 to a conference I'd think Unless we have like 6-8 who want a conference

[SirFozzie]

here's the rule set I was going to use for our league:

Starting Season 2003
Attribute Style 0-100
Human Coaches Fired? Yes (but I can understand if folks want to leave this off)
Game Logs? Not unless folks want to, I don't know how much room it'd take up for 16 coaches game logs
Randomize Team Prestige: No
Play-In Game: Yes
Conference Promotions/Demotions: No
Conference Prestige Updates: Yes
Academic Suspensions: Yes.

[The_herd]

I like those. I'm all for coaches getting fired, makes you work a little harder and puts some pressure on ya. The attributes on a 0-100 style is almost a must for me, there is no other way to play it IMO.

These settings are the most realistic you could have and thats what I'm for, so it sounds good here.

[SirFozzie]

Also, we have to decide what level of coaching points we want. I figure we want to be GOOD coaches, if not gods, so maybe level 10 (300 Points?)

(100+20 for each level, Level 0=Hard, level 7=-Normal, 15=Easy)

[Balldog]

I like them as well, I'd say anywhere between 7-10 for coaching level.

[lcjjdnh]

2 Comments:

Personally, I like the A-F letter system for evaluation but I'd be willing to use the 0-100 scale. What do you find is so beneficial to this scales as oppossed to any other one? I only use A-F because I started using it the first time I played and haven't changed since but I'm interested in why you like 0-100 so much.

Second, I like to play on level 7, making a someone whose above average in some things, and average in the rest but on the other hand, we're just competing amongst ourselves, so it's even for everybody in the end.

[Easy Mac]

I like the idea of having something set up to where there are 4 players in a conference.

Just to ease this out of the gate (we can change things around later after we get the sim rolling) why don't we do this:

4 PAC 10 teams
4 Big East teams
4 Big XII teams
4 ACC teams

I think this would be the easiest way. Then maybe we could just schedule eachother outside of conference play.

[Alan T]

Originally posted by lcjjdnh
I offered to take Seton Hall making four, would that be ok?

Sorry.. didnt mean to exclude you. Was an oversight on missing your post. I will blame it on Dan Reeves :)

[Easy Mac]

Updated as of Dec. 1, 2003 8:07 pm

UNOFFICIAL OFFICIAL BEGINNING TEAM LIST:

Big East
SirFozzie - BC
Marmel - Syracuse
lcjjdnh - Seton Hall
Alan T - UConn

Pac 10
Chief Rum - UCLA
mrBug708 - Arizona
Dutch - USC
Radii - Stanford

Big XII
Calis - Kansas
cartman - Texas
Balldog - Oklahoma
alterra - Colorado

CUSA
Shorty3281 - Cincinnati
The_herd - Louisville
Easy Mac - Memphis
tim86432 - South Florida

[Balldog]

If Alan T wants GA Tech he can have them and I'll take Oklahoma.

[The_herd]

Originally posted by lcjjdnh
What do you find is so beneficial to this scales as oppossed to any other one?

You know, I really can't answer it. I just don't like looking at the A-F ratings, thats one of the problems I had with TDCB. I think its easier to get a feel for a player with the 0-100 ratings. I have a real problem getting into the A-F ratings for some reason.

[Alan T]

Originally posted by Balldog
If Alan T wants GA Tech he can have them and I'll take Oklahoma.


Its ok. marmel told me that he wants to actually beat me in something, and he likely should have no problem doing it here.. You can keep Tech (Anyhows if I took them, I would run them into the ground anyhows.. and I wouldnt enjoy that).. :)

[Balldog]

Originally posted by The_herd
You know, I really can't answer it. I just don't like looking at the A-F ratings, thats one of the problems I had with TDCB. I think its easier to get a feel for a player with the 0-100 ratings. I have a real problem getting into the A-F ratings for some reason.

What about 0-20?

[SirFozzie]

personally, my reason for selecting 0-100 is that it provides a better varience between players, and those are the ratings it basically uses in the game, I believe

[korme]

I would take Cincinnati.

Anyone consider the possibility of doing the future conference changes? Like when the time comes move them to the Big East.

[The_herd]

If you take Cincy, I'm willing to be Louisville. It'd be nice to get one more conference USA player as well.

[Easy Mac]

I'd be willing to take Memphis if Balldog wants to switch to Oklahoma. That way we can just scratch the ACC and put in CUSA.

[tim86432]

I'll take South Florida if you need another conference USA

[SirFozzie]

Ok, Big East and C-USA complete, from what I See. The Big XII and Pac 10 look to be the other two conferences.

[Dutch]

I'll take USC.

[SirFozzie]

Ok.. 2 spots left. One in the Pac 10 (USC, UCLA, 'Zona) and one in the Big XII (Oklahoma, Texas, Kansas)

[tim86432]

I'll take Iowa State if you need another Big XII

[SirFozzie]

Er, Tim, you're already taking the fourth spot in C-USA, I believe ;)

[tim86432]

oops thanks

[Easy Mac]

bump

[SirFozzie]

Since a couple folks are getting this game in the near future/for christmas, when do you want to start?

[alterra]

Well, if nobody else wants to play in the Big Ten with me, will I have to switch to another school? My first pick is Wisconsin, but if y'all would rather I play in the Big XII I'll take Colorado...

[Alan T]

I can start whenever. I wouldnt mind starting as soon as we got enough people. We can always add more people in later right? (I am guessing that is possible?)

This way it does not lose momentum :)

[Radii]

I just found this thread got really active after being away for most of the weekend... ok what conferences do I get to pick from here? First choice is North Carolina but if everyone else has abandoned the ACC I can go elsewhere np.

[SirFozzie]

Radii:

Big East (4) (BC, UConn, 'Cuse Seton Hall
C-USA (4) S.Florida, Memphis, Louisville, Cincy
Pac-10 (3) (Zona, USC, UCLA)
Big XII (4) (Texas, Oklahoma, Colorado, Kansas)

Looks like the current "hole" is Pac-10 only. If we get enough interest we can open up a fifth conference

And since folks are ready to go, I will create the initial file as 2000, sim to 2003, and then add the human coaches in, a week from today (I work Tues-thurs, Sat and Sunday 2 AM-Noon before having three days off Mon Tues Wed)

[Alan T]

Sounds good Fozzie. getting it out before a weekend would be cool (especially since I travel alot for work over the next few weeks :)

[Radii]

I'll go ahead and take Stanford then.

[MrBug708]

Poor Dutch, he took a low major team

[RPI-Fan]

I'll play whenever you want to add another team.

[HornedFrog Purple]

I planned on getting this after x-mas. If you can add me in when I get it then I will take TCU. I will steal every prospect from Zephyr, Texas. :D

[RPI-Fan]

FWIW, SirFoz: The A-F ratings still are on a 0-100 scale, they're just masked into the letter grade form.

So during the game, your "C+" PF would still have his playing effected by his actual rating (probably a 60 or so).

[Dutch]

I wanted UCLA but they were taken, so then I thought about Arizona, but they were taken. Damn, there are over a hundred teams in the game and the only ones I would consider were taken. So I checked my FBCB career and saw that USC went to the final 4 like 4 times. I took them. I hate USC. :)

[MrBug708]

Well, if you suck, at least you know you made a team worth it, suck

[Easy Mac]

bump.

So it looks like we have 16 teams set, just look above for my unffocial official team list.

So if anyone is about ready to go, I say lets. I can probably get the game by the time we are ready to start.

[Neuqua]

I'll probably get in with the second batch of owners, so let me know when you guys expand on the 16.

[SirFozzie]

Ok. I'll do my best to have a file up on Thursday night/Friday :)

[SirFozzie]

Dolabumping for the new thread. Simming 2000-2003 now.

[henry296]

I might be interested in the 4th Big 10 Team, but how much work is it. Do you do your recruiting and set your lineup/depth chart for the month and send a file to the commish?

todd

[Balldog]

Originally posted by henry296
I might be interested in the 4th Big 10 Team, but how much work is it. Do you do your recruiting and set your lineup/depth chart for the month and send a file to the commish?

todd

Probably, I can't imagine it being overwhelming. We can't trade or sign free agents.