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Leonidas
12-11-2003, 08:22 PM
Be warned from the start, this is a depressing vent post.

Got a call from a good frined of mine today telling me a mutual friend of ours has been missing in Iraq since October. This is a guy we both have known for over 10 years. He is also one of the finest men I have ever had the privilege of knowing.

His car was found, along with his unfired weapon and $40K in cash (for whatever mission he was on), all untouched, and no sign of him. Knowing how these folks operate over there, I am pretty certain he is dead, and his death was likely not a pleasant one. The circumstances of his disappearance are a message unto themself. The unused weapon a sign of the swiftness and surety of capture. The untouched money a message that all your power and money cannot buy us.

I've been over there myself, along with many companions and had little to no problem, but that was during major hostilities, when things were strangely safer than they are now.

When I first met Kirk he was one of those people that strikes you as just another big old geek. But I found him to be a renaissance man. A musician, a great athlete, a historian of some note, an outstanding scholar, and a fine husband and father of four wonderful children. After we went through tech school I was honored by his wonderful comments about me as he accepted his award as our Distinguished Graduate. Kirk made wonderful comments about everyone in our class, but he made them all personal. He was the kind of guy who was damn good at everything he did, but he had that special ability to ensure everyone admired him for it, no one who really knew him was ever jealous.

We didn't stay much in touch, but sometimes that's the nature of our business. We all know eventually we'll run into each other at one assignment or another. And if not, I know at least five people off the top of my head at any given time I am certain who could get me in contact with him.

The last time I saw Kirk was three years ago at a gym on Langley AFB, Virginia. He was trying to get in the National Guard because he had a great civilian job offer. The last thing he told me was that he was getting out because the pay was the difference between sending his kids to state school and sending them to Ivy League.

Now I'm trying to search my vast net of friends for his wife's address and phone number to find out how he happened to be where he was and if there is anything in the world I am capable of doing to help her and her kids. The military has a good life insurance policy for when you die, but I have no idea what they do for a family when you are MIA. I'm quite sure she will already have had similar calls many times over, but it doesn't mean I still shouldn't do it.

Sorry to drop this depressing bomb on you guys, but I needed to vent. I always knew when I first committed to this business the day would come when somebody I was close to would come to such a situation, but I never knew how much it would affect me. I'm still searching for an appropriate emotional reaction. Quite possible when I talk to his wife I'll just lose it altogether.

I love my work, but today I find it a bit diminished.

Dutch
12-11-2003, 08:48 PM
Is there a news report on this somewhere???

sachmo71
12-11-2003, 09:11 PM
Sorry to hear of your loss...actually, I guess it's all of our loss.

Draft Dodger
12-11-2003, 09:20 PM
sorry to hear about this

CamEdwards
12-11-2003, 09:33 PM
it's a sad story, Leonidas. I'm really sorry to hear about your friend. Let us know what you find out about benefits... maybe we here at FOFC can help raise some money for his wife and kids.

tucker342
12-11-2003, 09:43 PM
:( very sad to hear.

*trying my hardest not to say anything about the war........................................




I hope everything turns out okay for his family:(

Leonidas
12-11-2003, 10:10 PM
I got an email from the guy who told me about this and it had a news article and I don't want to attach it because it had way too much personal detail. Sorry, but his wife even had to leave her home because of local media coverage and I don't want to make a big deal out of this. I talked to my wife about it and she thoroughly chastised me about the whole offering to help deal saying if it were her she'd refuse and be offended.

Anyway, the article my friend sent me said that he was working for a contractor under the Army basically working as an errand boy who from some unknown reason was working that day without his interpretor. He had a flat tire, made a cell call for help, and when help arrived 45 minutes later he was gone. And it appeared he was working near Tikrit where Saddam is from and few Westerners dare travel.

So he is no longer under military coverage, which I fear means he will get less than his due for any search and rescue. I also fear it means he gets less than optimal coverage for his family, but I can't say for sure without knowing what the company he worked for had to offer.

Now I'm really pissed because Kirks was too damn smart to work in that part of Iraq alone and am wondering why the F he was there. Probably something I will never know the answer to.

Anyway, thanks for your support guys.

Tekneek
12-11-2003, 11:43 PM
Sorry to hear about that.

A cousin of my wife's left for Kuwait on December 10. We took him out to a hockey game the night before he left for South Carolina to get to know his new unit (they transferred him from his normal unit (which is not being called up) to one that was going active) a few weeks ago. He said he has to be there for a year before his tour of duty is finished.

MizzouRah
12-12-2003, 02:48 AM
Sorry to hear this, your friend is in my prayers. Hopefully, he will be found....



Todd

cincyreds
12-12-2003, 07:53 AM
Like everyone else Leonidas, I am sorry to hear about this.

My older brother has been over there twice now and still he refuses talk about anything that he had done while he was over there.

The only thing he says is, "it was either my life or theirs".

So that tells me that he probably had to kill someone while he was there.

I cannot even begin to understand.

And to think that while we were young, all of those bee-bee gun shootouts we had in woods in our neighborhood were just for fun. Now I guess they are not anymore.

Thoughts and prayers go to you and your friend and his wife and family. It is hard dealing with the unknown, the mystery that is always there, very frustrating for sure.

Dutch
12-12-2003, 11:44 AM
http://209.157.64.200/focus/f-news/1018225/posts offers some details. But no coverage from American or major world news sources...

In any event, I hope he is okay.