View Full Version : So whose going to see LOTR tomorrow night?
MrBug708
12-15-2003, 11:03 PM
I am. I never read the books and wasn't a fan til I saw the first movie. I saw it at 12:01 last year too.
FBPro
12-15-2003, 11:07 PM
Not seen any of them so chances are won't see this one.
Blade6119
12-15-2003, 11:07 PM
i want too, but we have finals wednesday...i see it sometime this week
mckerney
12-15-2003, 11:17 PM
Not I.
MrBug708
12-15-2003, 11:18 PM
Originally posted by Blade6119
i want too, but we have finals wednesday...i see it sometime this week
So do I, but I'm taking one for the team....:)
Celeval
12-15-2003, 11:19 PM
I've got tix to the back-to-back-to-back showings - extended editions of FotR and TTT leading right into the 11:00pm showing of RotK. :-D
cody8200
12-15-2003, 11:26 PM
Dammit I forgot it comes out at 12 tonight (its tuesday here already). I've got a damn final until 1215 on wednesaday and planned to go home (2 hours away) and watch it wednesday night with my friends. :( Now it will be too late as they will watch it tonight. I'll got see it anyway though on wednesday night...ill just sit next to someone and talk to them like I know them ;)
Neuqua
12-15-2003, 11:35 PM
I hope so.
tucker342
12-16-2003, 12:12 AM
I wish.....:(
sterlingice
12-16-2003, 12:12 AM
Originally posted by Blade6119
i want too, but we have finals wednesday...i see it sometime this week
Same here, so I'll be catching it next week.
SI
Turd Ferguson
12-16-2003, 12:16 AM
I have my cape and magic staff ready for the 11 pm show.
mckerney
12-16-2003, 12:25 AM
Originally posted by Turd Ferguson
I have my cape and magic staff ready for the 11 pm show.
Shouldn't it be robe and wizard hat?
Chief Rum
12-16-2003, 12:54 AM
I'm seeing it at midnight Tuesday.
CR
kingfc22
12-16-2003, 01:28 AM
12:01. I'll be there!!!
Peregrine
12-16-2003, 05:11 AM
Not tonight, but 11 am Wednesday morning I'll be there. Sounds like this one will be the best one yet.
Radii
12-16-2003, 10:16 AM
I'm going Friday
The_herd
12-16-2003, 10:20 AM
Not unless someone wants to babysit....
Blade6119
12-16-2003, 10:26 AM
Originally posted by The_herd
Not unless someone wants to babysit.... Depends on if you have a hot daughter or not...but if she needs babysitting she might be a little below my age(17)
Nyarlahotep
12-16-2003, 10:28 AM
Midnight tonight.
The_herd
12-16-2003, 10:28 AM
I have a 2 yo son....and I think we'll look for someone else now.
Sidhe
12-16-2003, 10:29 AM
Yeah my problem is I got two 2 1/2 year old kids that I can't drag with me, and my wife won't let me go without her..
WAH!!!!!
I have been dreaming of someone making live action movies of LoTR since around 1976 so you can imagine how happy I am..
But I won't be one of the first to see it.
I won't be happy with it anyway. I wasn't happy with the first two until I got the EE DVDs. I NEED MORE!
Blade6119
12-16-2003, 10:31 AM
Originally posted by The_herd
I have a 2 yo son....and I think we'll look for someone else now.
Yah...prob. smart...im not micheal jackson, so little boys arent my thing
rkmsuf
12-16-2003, 10:36 AM
The middle earth minions are wetting themselves...
Draft Dodger
12-16-2003, 10:38 AM
I'm going - I was willing to wait, but my wife is going crazy trying to avoid the trailers so that nothing gets spoiled for her.
KWhit
12-16-2003, 11:34 AM
23 posts in and no one has bashed Bug for his grammar yet?
You guys are slipping.
"So who's going to see LOTR tomorrow night?"
Ksyrup
12-16-2003, 03:20 PM
Never read the books, haven't seen any of the movies and probably won't see this one...but I have yet to read a better review for a movie than CNN.com gave this one.
Draft Dodger
12-16-2003, 03:33 PM
Originally posted by Ksyrup
Never read the books, haven't seen any of the movies and probably won't see this one...but I have yet to read a better review for a movie than CNN.com gave this one.
which begs me to ask, WTF are you waiting for?
:)
MrBug708
12-16-2003, 04:13 PM
Originally posted by KWhit
23 posts in and no one has bashed Bug for his grammar yet?
You guys are slipping.
"So who's going to see LOTR tomorrow night?"
They "we're" waiting for the grammar police to show up :D
Ksyrup
12-16-2003, 04:17 PM
Originally posted by Draft Dodger
which begs me to ask, WTF are you waiting for?
:)
Not interested in fantasy/sci-fi, plus, the wife and I have seen exactly 2 movies in the theater since our 4 year old was born. I never realized how little I cared about movies until I had a kid and stopped going. Now, we barely watch movies even at home.
Buccaneer
12-16-2003, 07:33 PM
Originally posted by FBPro
Not seen any of them so chances are won't see this one.
Ditto. But we have the first two on DVD so you never know...
astralhaze
12-16-2003, 07:34 PM
12:01 tonight I'll be there.
astralhaze
12-17-2003, 05:08 AM
Cross-posting with the ootp forum since I am freaking tired now and don't want to write this twice...
Just got back and I am quite spent, as you may imagine. On the whole, it was a great film...for three hours. Everything that you hope for it and want it to be, it is. The battle scenes are some of the best cinema I have seen, regardless of genre. Without throwing out any spoilers, the key moments are also very well done with taste and intelligence. You do not get cheated.
However, the last half hour of the film really drags and it didn't have to. Peter Jackson, for some reason that I cannot fathom, decided to cheat. At least three times, the screen fades to black for roughly 3-5 seconds. People would get up and be about to leave and the next scene would begin. False endings are normal for cheap horror movies, but for a film like this? Why? That is cheating the audience and I do knock the film down a bit for that.
Regardless, still well worth the wait and the three and half hours. If you are a fan of the books, or simply the first two films, you will not be disappointed.
kingfc22
12-17-2003, 05:39 AM
Just got home from the midnight showing and all I can say is WOW. What a great piece of work by Peter Jackson. I too thought the ending dragged on after the main story was finished. All-in-all, easily one of the best movies I've seen.
Chief Rum
12-17-2003, 06:14 AM
The ending would have dragged a little regardless, but I agree big time with astralhaze that Jackson's use of long fades on several occasions at the end really annoys.
I understand the man was trying to do an homage to the entirety of the series and the books with his endings. After all, it's more fitting that the end be as appropriately sized as the rest of the movies. Also, Tolkien wrote it that way (which I was also fine with).
But that teasing thing with the fades was just unnecessary. If Jackson simply just cut from one scene to the next, while some people would complain about the logn ending, I don't think it would be many and it certainly wouldn't be as obvious.
BTW, loved the movie for the most part. As a fan of the books, I have my little problems with small changes to the story, of course, but there weren't too many that I thought were unnecessary. Pellenor Fields kicks ass.
CR
Peregrine
12-17-2003, 06:41 AM
Never read the books, haven't seen any of the movies and probably won't see this one...but I have yet to read a better review for a movie than CNN.com gave this one.
I really recommend trying to see the first couple on DVD, many of my friends at work hadn't read the books either and weren't into the fantasy "scene" but they loved the movies as most people have, and are always talking about them now. :)
KWhit
12-17-2003, 08:31 AM
Originally posted by Peregrine
I really recommend trying to see the first couple on DVD, many of my friends at work hadn't read the books either and weren't into the fantasy "scene" but they loved the movies as most people have, and are always talking about them now. :)
My wife was the same way. She thinks I am so weird because I like fantasy stuff, but she loves these movies.
Celeval
12-17-2003, 09:39 AM
Peter Jackson is a god. Moments on that screen that I've been waiting to see since the time I first read the book a decade and a half ago, and he did them right.
I'm sure I'll start nitpicking after the third viewing or so with what was changed from the books (a handful of things), and what was cut (a good bit, some disappointing, some not), but it's top-5.
Bearcat729
12-17-2003, 10:05 AM
I think it was better than the second film.
I was hoping that the ending would be different with the actual return home and finding Saruman having taken over.
There is always hope with the extended DVD
GrantDawg
12-17-2003, 11:53 AM
Originally posted by Bearcat729
I think it was better than the second film.
I was hoping that the ending would be different with the actual return home and finding Saruman having taken over.
There is always hope with the extended DVD
No there's not. Peter Jackson is on record as saying he did not like that part of the book, and they did not film those scenes. That is the only thing really bad about this film, but since that is an omission instead of an addition, it is forgivable.
Greatest movie ever.
Sun Tzu
12-17-2003, 12:10 PM
I would kill to see another "Triumph the insult comic dog" routine at the first showing of this one. Does anybody have a link to the original for those who don't know what I'm talking about?
kingfc22
12-17-2003, 02:44 PM
Originally posted by Sun Tzu
I would kill to see another "Triumph the insult comic dog" routine at the first showing of this one. Does anybody have a link to the original for those who don't know what I'm talking about?
Wasn't that for a Star Wars opening?
Chief Rum
12-17-2003, 03:01 PM
Originally posted by kingfc22
Wasn't that for a Star Wars opening?
Yes it was, and still funny as hell. :)
CR
kingfc22
12-17-2003, 03:46 PM
Originally posted by Chief Rum
Yes it was, and still funny as hell. :)
CR
Yes. Yes it was.
Sun Tzu
12-17-2003, 04:16 PM
Which of these buttons calls your parents to pick you up?
rkmsuf
12-17-2003, 04:17 PM
You only get that option if you are at least +17 in spoiled ability...
Sun Tzu
12-17-2003, 04:20 PM
For those of you who don't know what we're talking about...
go here (http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/video/nerds.html)
....and click on the top "starwars nerds" link on the right.
Tekneek
12-17-2003, 06:21 PM
Originally posted by Celeval
I've got tix to the back-to-back-to-back showings - extended editions of FotR and TTT leading right into the 11:00pm showing of RotK. :-D
Ah. So you were over at the Regal 24? My wife and I were there, as well. Nice of all the sick people to show up. We caught something and had fevers when we woke up this morning.
Celeval
12-17-2003, 06:56 PM
Originally posted by Tekneek
Ah. So you were over at the Regal 24? My wife and I were there, as well. Nice of all the sick people to show up. We caught something and had fevers when we woke up this morning.
Yep... pretty good time. I was waiting in line starting about 10:30, my fiancee joined at one just before we got let in. Didn't get sick, tho (luckily).
Tekneek
12-17-2003, 07:06 PM
Originally posted by Celeval
Yep... pretty good time. I was waiting in line starting about 10:30, my fiancee joined at one just before we got let in. Didn't get sick, tho (luckily).
We showed up at 1:30 and sat in the second row. Not the best seats due to the way their screen works, but it got the job done. I heard somebody say they paid $200 for the tickets on ebay. I bought them the first day they were being sold. I never imagined people would be paying more than face value to see that.
Tex Schramm
12-18-2003, 12:47 AM
Never read the books, haven't seen any of the movies and probably won't see this one...but I have yet to read a better review for a movie than CNN.com gave this one.
New Line Cinema (I think) is a subsidiary of Time Warner, which also owns CNN.
Honolulu_Blue
12-18-2003, 01:18 AM
I went out and saw it last night. It was fantastic. An excellent film. Sure the ending may have dragged a bit, but the ending is for all three films. So, given that the other two movies had no real ending, I'll give Jackson sometime to wind things up the way he wanted.
Some of the scenes of the movie were absolutely perfect. Exactly, if not better, than I imagined when reading the book.
As for leaving out the whole Shire/Saruman thing. Good call. That part of the book sucked. It was a drag and felt bizarre. As far as the big scenes that Jackson cut (mainly Bombadill and the shire/Saruman thing), I would have cut and actually hoped would be cut. The one big change that bothered me was the Faramir thing (where he took Frodo to Osgiliath instead of letting him go basically right away). Oh well, I will live with that.
The size and scope of the films were fantastic. The acting top notch. The effects have no equal.
The series is a true cinematic achievement of the highest order.
astralhaze
12-18-2003, 01:23 AM
Honolulu,
Just wanted to clarify a bit. I didn't mind the actual scenes at the end. What bothered me was Jackson's stylistic choice of fading to black with a false ending not once, but three times.
Also, since I have never read the books, can someone give me a brief synopsis of the Saruman/Shire deal?
Honolulu_Blue
12-18-2003, 02:20 AM
Originally posted by astralhaze
Honolulu,
Just wanted to clarify a bit. I didn't mind the actual scenes at the end. What bothered me was Jackson's stylistic choice of fading to black with a false ending not once, but three times.
Also, since I have never read the books, can someone give me a brief synopsis of the Saruman/Shire deal?
There were a few fades in there. I think I would have been annoyed, but luckily I read your post before seeing the film and was ready for them. There was one quite long fade to black that was tricky...
I can't really give you a great synopsis of the whole thing. I haven't read that part in ages. I usually put the book down after the "big" ending. I just can't get into it.
SackAttack
12-18-2003, 05:10 AM
There were some nervous chuckles in the audience after the third one. Kind of a sense of "Okay, how much longer is this gonna run?"
A few folks didn't bother, and just bailed after they saw it come back after the first fade. Eh, to each their own.
All I have to say is between Legolas on the elephant and the undead army...this had better win an Oscar for special effects. Best picture too, but that's another story.
CleBrownsfan
12-18-2003, 06:50 AM
I saw LOTR last night and I have to say it became one of my top 5 movies of all time. People may say it dragged on in the end but I didn't want it to stop. I read the books and I have to say this is the first series of movies which I think they did a better job in the movies than the books.
It's a must see and it better win some Oscars!!!
ice4277
12-18-2003, 07:31 AM
I am pretty sure it will win Best Picture at the Oscars this year, not only for the quality (VERY good movie) but for what the trilogy has accomplished overall.
Honolulu_Blue
12-18-2003, 08:24 AM
Originally posted by CleBrownsfan
I read the books and I have to say this is the first series of movies which I think they did a better job in the movies than the books.
I couldn't agree more. These movies are better than the books. Don't get me wrong. The books are great. They are classics. They are epic in scope. They just aren't always fleshed out all that well. It's a great skeleton of a story. The characters are more well developed and fleshed out in the movies. Much more so, I think. The visualizations are great. The songs they decide to use are moving and well timed (instead of dull and distracting). There was no Bombadil. There was no scourge of the shire.
Samdari
12-18-2003, 08:29 AM
Originally posted by astralhaze
Honolulu,
Just wanted to clarify a bit. I didn't mind the actual scenes at the end. What bothered me was Jackson's stylistic choice of fading to black with a false ending not once, but three times.
Also, since I have never read the books, can someone give me a brief synopsis of the Saruman/Shire deal?
I have read the books probably 20 times. So....
And oddly enough H_B, the scenes in the Shire at the end are among my favorite in the book(s). To me, they do a wonderful job of completing the hobbit characters, by illustrating how all that has happened has changed them.
BOOK SPOILER ALERT.
After the crowning of the King. The hobbits eventually make it back to the shire. Instead of finding the idyllic, untouched by the events of the world home they left, they find that Saruman has taken over, and is running the shire as a dictatorship with a small army of "big people." The four adventuring hobbits rally the citizens of the shire and expel Saruman and his thugs.
There was also one big scene from TTT that was left out of that movie and (from what I hear) not included in the RoTK movie. After the defeat of Saruman's army at Helm's deep and the ruin of Isengard by the Ents, Gandalf and Theoden confront Saruman in his tower. Also a very powerful scene, in which Gandalf informs Saruman that he (Gandalf) is now the baddest-ass (badassest?) wizard in middle earth.
EDIT: While I do not wish to get into a huge debate on the relative quality of the movies vs book (both are awesome, IMO) your statement that the characters are better developed in the movies is way off base. How could they possibly have developed the characters better in the movies than the books, when all of the character development from the movies is also in the books, plus more that the movies leave out?
Honolulu_Blue
12-18-2003, 08:47 AM
Originally posted by Samdari
I have read the books probably 20 times. So....
And oddly enough H_B, the scenes in the Shire at the end are among my favorite in the book(s). To me, they do a wonderful job of completing the hobbit characters, by illustrating how all that has happened has changed them.
BOOK SPOILER ALERT.
After the crowning of the King. The hobbits eventually make it back to the shire. Instead of finding the idyllic, untouched by the events of the world home they left, they find that Saruman has taken over, and is running the shire as a dictatorship with a small army of "big people." The four adventuring hobbits rally the citizens of the shire and expel Saruman and his thugs.
There was also one big scene from TTT that was left out of that movie and (from what I hear) not included in the RoTK movie. After the defeat of Saruman's army at Helm's deep and the ruin of Isengard by the Ents, Gandalf and Theoden confront Saruman in his tower. Also a very powerful scene, in which Gandalf informs Saruman that he (Gandalf) is now the baddest-ass (badassest?) wizard in middle earth.
EDIT: While I do not wish to get into a huge debate on the relative quality of the movies vs book (both are awesome, IMO) your statement that the characters are better developed in the movies is way off base. How could they possibly have developed the characters better in the movies than the books, when all of the character development from the movies is also in the books, plus more that the movies leave out?
The Saruman scene was filmed and cut. It was supposed to be in ROTK (it will be in the extended version), but they felt like it messed with the narrative because the "bad guy" in the ROTK movie was Sauron, Saruman was old news. Christopher Lee was pissed.
As for character development. I just had a much better feel for the characters in the movie. There is some substance to the characters in the book (particularly Samwise), but other than that, I felt the characters were flat and sort of dull. The film, thanks to the great actors, some new/revised dialogue, and the action scenes, really breathed life (for me) into these characters.
Easy Mac
12-18-2003, 12:46 PM
saw it. Actually thought it was worse than the first two. The narrative did not flow as well in ROTK as it did in the previous 2. It was a good film, but no way this is the best picture of the year. I just didn't feel like Aragon's ascension to the king was as powerful as it should have been. The battles were alright, but they didn't have the same force as the TT's helm's deep. The emotion was more forced than natural (Gandalf's "death" in FOTR was great, but I didn't feel an emotional attachment in this movie). I liked it, but I'd have to say it was a bit dissapointing.
I'd say overall I liked the Matrix trilogy more than this just because I thought the ending was executed better. And there were just as many useless characters put in here as there were in the Matrix.
If I had to rate the three, I'd say FOTR, TT, and ROTK.
And can I say, if I hear one more person clapping at a fucking movie starting, I'll punch them. There's no fucking reason to clap when the movie starts. And is it wrong that I turned around and told a person to shut the fuck up because they kept giving a running commentary... Maybe I just need to see it alone to get a better vibe from it.
GrantDawg
12-18-2003, 01:57 PM
Originally posted by Easy Mac
saw it. Actually thought it was worse than the first two. The narrative did not flow as well in ROTK as it did in the previous 2. It was a good film, but no way this is the best picture of the year. I just didn't feel like Aragon's ascension to the king was as powerful as it should have been. The battles were alright, but they didn't have the same force as the TT's helm's deep. The emotion was more forced than natural (Gandalf's "death" in FOTR was great, but I didn't feel an emotional attachment in this movie). I liked it, but I'd have to say it was a bit dissapointing.
I'd say overall I liked the Matrix trilogy more than this just because I thought the ending was executed better. And there were just as many useless characters put in here as there were in the Matrix.
If I had to rate the three, I'd say FOTR, TT, and ROTK.
And can I say, if I hear one more person clapping at a fucking movie starting, I'll punch them. There's no fucking reason to clap when the movie starts. And is it wrong that I turned around and told a person to shut the fuck up because they kept giving a running commentary... Maybe I just need to see it alone to get a better vibe from it.
There is one in every crowd.
Samdari
12-18-2003, 02:00 PM
Originally posted by Easy Mac
I'd say overall I liked the Matrix trilogy more than this just because I thought the ending was executed better.
You are the first person I have heard express the idea that the Matrix trilogy actually has an ending.
EDIT: The annoying running commentary behind you has a tendency to ruin any movie. Perhaps the constant emotion of wanting to beat the shit out of that audience member kept you from getting emotionally attached to this movie.
GrantDawg
12-18-2003, 02:01 PM
Originally posted by Samdari
You are the first person I have heard express the idea that the Matrix trilogy actually has an ending.
Ditto.
Easy Mac
12-18-2003, 02:16 PM
I'm pretty sure the story they told in the Matrix (Neo's) was over.
I could easily argue, "what did Aragon do from then on?" "Merry and Pippin?" Gimli? Legolas? There was an ending for the central story (Neo and Frodo/the One Ring), but there are endless stories that could be written about all the other characters of the plot.
I may go see it tomorrow afternoon, since I won't have to hang out with my girl until later... Hopefully the crowd won't be insane again (The same thing happened in my viewing of Revolutions, but that didn't piss me off as much, I think it just grew this time as a combination from the last).
And did anyone else feel the previews were pretty piss poor (Spiderman 2, eh... Butterfly Effect, barf... the Mask 2, eck... there were 3 more, but I forgot them).
GrantDawg
12-18-2003, 02:28 PM
Originally posted by Easy Mac
I could easily argue, "what did Aragon do from then on?" "Merry and Pippin?" Gimli? Legolas? There was an ending for the central story (Neo and Frodo/the One Ring), but there are endless stories that could be written about all the other characters of the plot.
No, those stories were ended well. We know from the movie that Aragon became king, married Arwen, and they had a child.
It is not hard to guess the rest. Merry and Pippin continue their relationship in the Shire, though secretly because the Hobbits do not recognize gay marriage.
Gimli and Legolas continued to explore inter-racial gay love until Gimli called Legolas "Gladriel" once too often. They then split up, and dated only within their own race.
It was all pretty clearly summed up.
Easy Mac
12-18-2003, 02:34 PM
I thought Legolas went out to see and joined Captain Jack Sparrow's crew? I'm confused.
Not saying I hated the film or anything, I just thought it could have been better as compared to the previous two.
Do have to say that I absolutely loved the "you bow to no one" scene, and billy boyd's singing during the faramir "death" charge... those two were absolutely brilliant.
I think as a trilogy, this is by far the best, and should win an oscar based on that, but I don't think this is the most oscar-worthy of the three.
Samdari
12-18-2003, 02:34 PM
Originally posted by Easy Mac
I'm pretty sure the story they told in the Matrix (Neo's) was over.
FWIW, I did not like the first Matrix movie enough to see any of the others, so I have not seen this. I do know several people who were ga-ga over it though, and have been progressively disenchanted with the second and third. One of the most common complaints I have heard (both from live humans and reading the 'net) was that the ending either sucked or did not exist. Yours was literally the first opinion I'd heard saying anything positive of the way that ended.
rkmsuf
12-18-2003, 02:35 PM
besides, you needed a pee bucket to make it through the whole thing...
Honolulu_Blue
12-18-2003, 02:57 PM
Originally posted by rkmsuf
besides, you needed a pee bucket to make it through the whole thing...
You have the bladder of an infant.
rkmsuf
12-18-2003, 02:59 PM
Originally posted by Honolulu_Blue
You have the bladder of an infant.
But the intellect of at least a 5th grader and the unit of unbelievable proportions. Makes for an odd existance...
Turd Ferguson
12-18-2003, 08:36 PM
I agree with you Mac, I hate when people clap at the theater... Especially at the end of a movie!! I mean who are they clapping for? It's not a play!
Buccaneer
12-18-2003, 08:53 PM
Originally posted by Samdari
FWIW, I did not like the first Matrix movie enough to see any of the others, so I have not seen this. I do know several people who were ga-ga over it though, and have been progressively disenchanted with the second and third. One of the most common complaints I have heard (both from live humans and reading the 'net) was that the ending either sucked or did not exist. Yours was literally the first opinion I'd heard saying anything positive of the way that ended.
I hated Matrix 1 so it would have repulsive to me to even watch the sequels. As far as LOTR, any commercials I have seen all reminded me of watching a RTS click-fest game with its massive rushing armies and total chaos. I suppose there's a story or plot in there somewhere.
Sidhe
12-18-2003, 08:59 PM
I still haven't seen it.. :(
RE the scouring of the Shire..
Tolkein thought it was the most important part of the book because it's at that point that the Hobbits have accepted the world, and all its evil, and confronted it, and found they could live in it.
If you see the Shire as the protectorate that it was (which is not a real big part of the movie, granted) then the fact they took care of themselves is a bigger deal.
It's another way of treating the theme of the ring. The evil (which is basically our human weakness *to* evil) can be resisted by the hobbits, as Sam shows at the end. That being the case, they no longer need protecting.
They have become part of the world. Heck, they even got added to the Roll of the Ents.. whatever that was called.
..and so my geekness and education form a perfect circle exactly here...
Honolulu_Blue
12-19-2003, 01:31 AM
Originally posted by Buccaneer
I hated Matrix 1 so it would have repulsive to me to even watch the sequels. As far as LOTR, any commercials I have seen all reminded me of watching a RTS click-fest game with its massive rushing armies and total chaos. I suppose there's a story or plot in there somewhere.
Quite a bit actually.
Balldog
12-19-2003, 04:37 PM
"I didn't see Phantom Menice or The Attack of the Clones because I am 40 years old and I have been laid. So, Star Wars or LOTR really."
cincyreds
12-19-2003, 07:45 PM
I saw it yesterday, with my 9 yr old nephew.
I liked all the different endings, also thought it was the best one of all the 3.
I will probably go and see it again this weekend.
KWhit
12-22-2003, 07:52 AM
I am not one to throw compliments around (especially about movies), but good God was this an amazing film! My initial feeling is that this is the best movie series I have ever seen. I'll have to give it time to see if I still believe that once I let in sink in and bounce around my subconscious a little bit.
A few random thoughts: SPOILERS
There was only one real long fade to black - the one where Frodo and Sam are stuck on the rock surrounded by lava. The other fades were quick enough where an audience shouldn't have been fooled. It didn't bother me.
The one thing that Jackson uses that is so incredibly effective is his long shots. The ones where he pulls the camera back and gives you a view of the entirity of the setting. It really gives weight to the actions happening. Some examples: Gandolf riding the horse through the city of Mina Tirith. Of course, the armies converging. The beacons being lit. This technique made these movies seem more real than any special effects epic I have ever seen.
The elephants rocked! That whole scene was near-perfect.
Speaking of that, I think I want to be Legolas. Except that I believe he's gay (not that there's anything wrong with that!)
There is not a better soul in the world than Samwise Gamgee.
The spider (can't remember its name) was so realistic. It moved exactly how I picture a spider moving. I wouldn't be surprised if I had nightmares about that thing (I HATE HATE HATE spiders!)
I loved the "You bow to no one" moment. Sniff...
Gollum appearing crawling over the rock when Frodo has finally made it to Mt Doom was great. A bunch of people jumped and shrieked in the theatre.
A few nit-picky negatives:
Sam made it up the orc tower to save Frodo way too easily.
Arwen kind of bugged me. And can you believe she got 3rd billing in the credits!! Frodo, Gandolf, and then her! WTF!
Aragorn's coronation speech seemed forced. Like he was trying too hard to be kingly or something.
The ents bug me. I'm glad they were barely in this one.
Man, this was a rambling post. Sorry.
GrantDawg
12-22-2003, 09:13 AM
Originally posted by Balldog
"I didn't see Phantom Menice or The Attack of the Clones because I am 40 years old and I have been laid. So, Star Wars or LOTR really."
Dude, seen them all and I get laid all the time. I also enjoy movies and don't really care if they are geeky or not. That's called being a "grown-up". :)
GrantDawg
12-22-2003, 09:14 AM
BTW: Going again today with the wife. Probably will get laid after.
rkmsuf
12-22-2003, 09:17 AM
With or without your wizards hat and robe on?
GrantDawg
12-22-2003, 09:19 AM
Originally posted by rkmsuf
With or without your wizards hat and robe on?
With, of course. And a Rino.
KWhit
12-22-2003, 09:22 AM
So one of you and your wife's favorite games is Magicuser and Elf maiden too, huh?
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