Movie sequels that should never have been

[Bonegavel]

The almighty (no relation to our thealmighty) dollar was the obvious reason for these travesties of filmdom, but which movies, worthy of watching, had sequels that should never have reached pre-production?

The first that comes to my mind is Highlander. Not the greatest movie ever made, but, by itself, it was decent enough to someday make an appearance on my selective list of personal DVDs. Highlander II: The Quickening (1991) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0102034/) is possibly the worst movie ever made, let alone just a bad sequel.

[FargoFreez aka fof playa]

Leprachaun 2 thru whatever. Did anyone know one of Jennifer Aniston's first roles was in this movie?

[Noble_Platypus]

Both of the Matrix sequels.

[Raiders Army]

Speed 2: No Keanu?
I'm beginning to think that the Star Wars Prequels should never have been made.
Same with the Matrix Reloaded and Revolutions, although visually, they were pretty cool.
Alien 3 was horrible.
Rocky V was not needed...especially after we beat the USSR :)

I agree that Highlander II should not have been made, and it may very well be the worst sequel ever made.

[Raiders Army]

Leprachaun 2 thru whatever. Did anyone know one of Jennifer Aniston's first roles was in this movie?
Word. Knew dat homey.

[Darkiller]

For once I have to agree with NP.
These two sequels just killed the original Matrix.

[Noble_Platypus]

Alien 3 Raiders Army?? Obviously you didnt see Aliens resurection. It made Aliens 3 look like an acadey award winner.

[DeToxRox]

CADDYSHACK 2!

Ugh.

[FargoFreez aka fof playa]

Blair Witch 2

[FargoFreez aka fof playa]

I was fine with the first Batman and I guess the second wasn't that bad as well (if I remember correctly), but the rest...

[Taur]

Well, since I hate sequels without the original actors I will go with.
1) The Flintstones II
2) Dumb & Dumber II

Both of these Sequels were just cheap ass movies that shouldn't even of made it to TV; let alone the big screen.

[Fonzie]

I wasn't very keen on the original "Grease", but I can understand its appeal and worth. "Grease 2," however, was an abomination.

[Senator]

Godfather IV - The Retirement Home Years.

[Fonzie]

How could I forget? Most of the odd-numbered Star Trek sequels were worthless, along with a few of the even numbered ones. It's so sad to see how that franchise has been run into the ground.

[EagleFan]

Caddyshack 2
Rocky 2 through 5 got progressively worse, with 5 being completely worthless
Anything Star Trek, but that even goes for the originals so I guess that's not really within the topic :).
Die Hard 2, the third one was great though.
American Wedding, the third installment of American Pie, the first two were quite funny, they ruined the overall formula with the final one.

[johnnyshaka]

SlapShot 2...argh!!!

[MikeVic]

I have a feeling The Mask 2 will suck ass. No Jim Carey? Bleh.

[Turd Ferguson]

The Air Bud series.
Major League 2 and Major League: Back to the minors
Karate Kid 2-3 -- I can't stand these movies.

[The_herd]

Teen Wolf 2 is definately worthy of this list.

[Sun Tzu]

From Dusk til Dawn 2 & 3
The Mummy Returns & The Scorpion King
Mortal Kombat II
2 Fast 2 Furious (although one could argue that the entire series should have never seen the light of day)
Honey I blew up the baby & Honey we shrunk ourselves
Jurassic Park III
Any movie involving the words "Tomb" and "Raider"
Pumpkinhead 2
Wes Cravens New Nightmare & Freddy's dead : The final nightmare
Halloween H20
Scary Movie 3
City Slickers 2 (this movie made about par, but compared to the original it was junk)
Tremors 2
Any movie involving the words "Charlies" and "Angels"
Under Seige 2 & 3
Blues Brothers 2000
and last but not least The Exorcist 2 (although 3 was pretty good)

I'm going to end this list now. All of this bad sequel talk is starting to stir up the blood.

[sabotai]

Leprachaun 2 thru whatever. Did anyone know one of Jennifer Aniston's first roles was in this movie?
Actually, she was in the first Leprachaun, not the second.

[Buddy Grant]

Blair Witch 2
Dumb and Dumbest (Dumb & Dumber 2)
Bad Boys 2
Caddyshack 2
Star Wars - Episode I, The Phantom Menace
Blues Brothers 2000
Speed 2
and of course Ghandi 2: The Vengeance

[FargoFreez aka fof playa]

Yeah, that's what I meant to imply, but it doesn't look that way I guess. My bad.

[cthomer5000]

Star Wars - everything after The Empire Strikes Back
Aliens, Alien 3, Alien Ressurection - just shit compared to the original

[Bad-example]

I will agree with Caddyshack 2...it was almost as bad as the original ;)

Exorcist 2 was actually the first terrible sequel to come to mind.

Alien 3 and 4 were horrendous.

Didn't see Speed 2 but could it really have been worse than the original?

Same with The Mummy.

[The_herd]

Predator II was a pretty crappy movie and destined to suck without Ah-nold.

[Qwikshot]

Star Wars - everything after The Empire Strikes Back
Aliens, Alien 3, Alien Ressurection - just shit compared to the original

Huh, Aliens?!? Aliens was a fantastic movie.

[sabotai]

Star Wars - everything after The Empire Strikes Back
Aliens, Alien 3, Alien Ressurection - just shit compared to the original
I know a lot of people don't like Return of the Jedi, but still. Don't you think the Star Wars movies would have ended kind of...strange if they just stopped with Empire? People may hate ROTJ, but considering how Empire ended, I think it's safe to say that it was a movie that had to be made. :)

[cthomer5000]

I know a lot of people don't like Return of the Jedi, but still. Don't you think the Star Wars movies would have ended kind of...strange if they just stopped with Empire? People may hate ROTJ, but considering how Empire ended, I think it's safe to say that it was a movie that had to be made. :)

While that may be true, it does not make ROTJ a good movie. That's where everything went wrong with Lucas... oh my.

ESB was a perfect movie.

[hukarez]

Star Wars - everything after The Empire Strikes Back
Aliens, Alien 3, Alien Ressurection - just shit compared to the originalOne's got to give 'Aliens' some credit at least! It was the only movie where Michael Biehn's character actually survives until the end. Well, at least, until the intro of Alien 3. :D

EDIT: In any case, I'd have to throw my hand down for Predator 2.

[Glengoyne]

Star Wars - everything after The Empire Strikes Back
Aliens, Alien 3, Alien Ressurection - just shit compared to the original
The fact that you mention Aliens along side those abominations is unforgivable, well close at least. Aliens is a different genre from Alien, and is one of the all time great action adventure movies. Alien is a sci fi horror flick. I agreee that It is one of the best horror flicks ever made. I think Aliens belongs in a different thread, "The Best Movie Sequels that have ever been".

Some people think that Aliens surpassed the original. I am not in that camp, but I do have a hard time deciding which one I enjoy more.

[sabotai]

While that may be true, it does not make ROTJ a good movie. That's where everything went wrong with Lucas... oh my.
No, it doesn't make it a good movie. But on the question of if it should have been made or not, considering the situation, it had to have been made.

[BigJohn&TheLions]

Superfly T.N.T.
Shaft in Africa
Graffiti Bridge
Beverly Hills Cop 2 & 3
Rambo: First Blood Part II
Rambo III
Robocop (every sequel, although #1 is nothing special)

[hukarez]

Robocop (every sequel, although #1 is nothing special)I guess I'm a sucker for Robocop II, especially since it was a Frank Miller story. Same for Batman Returns...

I guess I've always thought those two movies were overlooked, and the sequels following after really didn't much justice to either franchise. But...that's just me.

[Desnudo]

The fact that you mention Aliens along side those abominations is unforgivable, well close at least. Aliens is a different genre from Alien, and is one of the all time great action adventure movies. Alien is a sci fi horror flick. I agreee that It is one of the best horror flicks ever made. I think Aliens belongs in a different thread, "The Best Movie Sequels that have ever been".

Some people think that Aliens surpassed the original. I am not in that camp, but I do have a hard time deciding which one I enjoy more.

I think Aliens is one of the scariest movies ever made. I couldn't walk into a dark room for two weeks after seeing it. It still scares the hell out of me and the special effects haven't gotten old. From that great era where acting still counted for something, but they could still do decent special effects.

I would say Temple of Doom was an awful sequel, although I really enjoyed The Last Crusade.

[sterlingice]

and of course Ghandi 2: The Vengeance
You can't sneak that UHF reference past me. I'm onto you ;)

SI

[Coffee Warlord]

Any sequel to any 80's/early 90's horror movie ever made.

[Glengoyne]

... Highlander II: The Quickening (1991) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0102034/) is possibly the worst movie ever made, let alone just a bad sequel.
Both of the Matrix sequels.
About 20 minutes into the Matrix sequel, I leaned over to my friend and asked him when we find out that Zion is really Zeist. Since we had ages ago seen Highlander two together, I knew he would make the connection.

[hukarez]

About 20 minutes into the Matrix sequel, I leaned over to my friend and asked him when we find out that Zion is really Zeist. Since we had ages ago seen Highlander two together, I knew he would make the connection.
:D

[HornedFrog Purple]

I dunno but I hope they never make a sequel to Battlefield Earth. Worst movie ever made. Think of the children!

[Anthony]

blair witch 2.

matrix sequels.

look who's talking too

star wars prequels

teen wolf 2.

[Buccaneer]

Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom. Worse sequel after an original ever made. Imo.

[sterlingice]

blair witch 2.

matrix sequels.

look who's talking too

star wars prequels

teen wolf 2.
See- these are my problems with these lists (not to pick on HA- there's a lot like this): expectations versus delivered. I mean, I would never utter say, Reloaded, in the same breath with Blair Witch 2 unless I was talking about, say, movie sequels from the past 5 years. But, while Reloaded didn't deliver on expectations, it still had an ok plot and had amazing special effects scenes, which are some of the best ever filmed. BW2, well, that was a waste of film stock. Have some perspective.

SI

[GrantDawg]

Caddyshack 2 by far. I think they use this movie to torture prisoners in Cuba.

[tucker342]

While that may be true, it does not make ROTJ a good movie. That's where everything went wrong with Lucas... oh my.

ESB was a perfect movie.

Am I the only one who thinks that ROTJ was the best one?

[sabotai]

Yes.

[tucker342]

dola-

Here are two:
Caddyshack 2
Star Wars - Episode I, The Phantom Menace

[Draft Dodger]

The almighty (no relation to our thealmighty) dollar was the obvious reason for these travesties of filmdom, but which movies, worthy of watching, had sequels that should never have reached pre-production?

The first that comes to my mind is Highlander. Not the greatest movie ever made, but, by itself, it was decent enough to someday make an appearance on my selective list of personal DVDs. Highlander II: The Quickening (1991) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0102034/) is possibly the worst movie ever made, let alone just a bad sequel.

great choice.
it also completely ruins the original for me. I had seen bits and pieces - but not the whole thing - before seeing the Quickening in theaters with some friends (who were big fans of the first). I've never seen so many people walk out of a movie. It was DREADFUL as a movie, but, it was even worse as a sequel...as it completely destroyed all of the cool premises of the first movie.

I've since seen the original, but I just couldn't enjoy it with all the thoughts of the sequel clouding my brain. If there's a worse sequel (and I haven't read this whole thread), I can't think of it.

[Cringer]

I must be one of the 2 guys (the other being Lucas) in america that actually like all the Star Wars movies, including the new ones. :)

[timmae]

no one got Fletch Lives on the lists?!?!?

[Cringer]

no one got Fletch Lives on the lists?!?!?

Funny, my wife rented Fletch and Fletch Lives for us to watch this weekend, i don't mind it. Not as good as the first, but not too bad to me.

[Draft Dodger]

no one got Fletch Lives on the lists?!?!?

not the greatest sequel ever, but I can live with it.

[SplitPersonality1]

NOt much new to add here.

Temple of Doom
Dumb and Dumberer (worst sequel title perhaps??)
Caddyshack II
Amityville Horror II (and #1 sucked)
Porky's II - The Revenge
Exorcist II & III, Omen II & III & IV & V, Poltergeist II & III - fill-in-the-blank-horror-movie II & III & IV etc
They are contemplating making Snow Dogs II - Could the very end of the world be next?>??

[astralhaze]

I actually liked Alien 3. I even wrote a really long review of it at another board. It would have, for me anyway, been a perfect ending to the trilogy had that huge POS Resurrections not been made. I guess Alien vs. Predator is on the way now. Yipee :rolleyes:

[vex]

Dumb and Dumberer (worst sequel title perhaps??)



By FAR.

[Honolulu_Blue]

I still believe that Highlander 2 is /the/ worst movie I've ever seen in the theater. Not the worst movie I've ever seen, mind you, just the worst I've seen on the big screen. It was awful.

Return of The Jedi. Yes. This is where Lucas started to go wrong, but it's far, far, far from a bad movie. All that Jaba the Hutt stuff (save Boba Fett's lame ass death) was great. The space battle was great. The whole Luke, Vader, Emperor thing was fantastic. Great, great stuff.

Aliens?? Aliens a bad sequel??? Aliens is one of the best films of all time IMHO. Pure class all the way. As original a sequel as they come.

The rest are all bad sequels indeed.

[pjstp20]

I actually liked Alien 3. I even wrote a really long review of it at another board. It would have, for me anyway, been a perfect ending to the trilogy had that huge POS Resurrections not been made. I guess Alien vs. Predator is on the way now. Yipee :rolleyes:
I agree, I think Alien 3 is an extremly underrated film. The previous two were just too hard to live up to. The fact that the characters were under developed, and you couldnt tell one from the other killed it. It had a good plot and it was very well directed.

[BreizhManu]

agree with Alien 3 too, I liked that movie

[Honolulu_Blue]

I agree, I think Alien 3 is an extremly underrated film. The previous two were just too hard to live up to. The fact that the characters were under developed, and you couldnt tell one from the other killed it. It had a good plot and it was very well directed.

Yeah, not being able to tell the characters apart killed it. You basically had a bunch of bald, white dudes with English accents, one bald, white chick, and one bald, black guy. All the bald English dudes were pretty non-descript except for maybe the doctor, but he got bumped off pretty early on.

Though killing Hicks off-screen before the movie even begun was not a good way to start the film. Pissed off 95% of the fan base.

[Bad-example]

A few not mentioned:

The Jerk Too...no Steve Martin, truly terrible.

Thunderball...worst of the Bond films.

Son of the Pink Panther...unwatchable.

[The_herd]

I've heard they are also considering a sequel to the Goonies right now. That would probably end up on this list as well.

[BigJohn&TheLions]

no one got Fletch Lives on the lists?!?!?
'Cuz Fletch Lives ROCKED Cleavon Little was hilarious!

[Huckleberry]

My nominations are already here. Matrix: Reloaded and Major League 2. In fact, when my wife and I walked out of the theater at the end of The Matrix I said to her right then "that would be a great standalone movie, but they're going to ruin it with a sequel." Sometimes I hate being right. Still haven't brought myself to see Revolutions. Or Back to the Minors for that matter.

I have never been as hard on Return of the Jedi as others.

[Aylmar]

Am I the only one who thinks that ROTJ was the best one?

The Luke/Vader/Palpatine scenes in ROTJ are the best scenes in any of the five films. For those scenes alone, I rate ROTJ as the best of the orginal trilogy. Taken as a whole, however, ESB is clearly the best of the five, in my mind. So, you're not totally alone... :)

[astralhaze]

Though killing Hicks off-screen before the movie even begun was not a good way to start the film. Pissed off 95% of the fan base.
I think that is the main reason people hated it, but I actually liked that. Killing Hicks and the little girl left Ripley completely isolated and alone...again. She finds someone to hang on to with the Doctor, and then he gets offed as well. She had to be put in that position in order to do what she had to do and kill the Alien species once and for all.

That said, I agree with the lack of character development although I did think Charles Dutton's character was well developed. The doctor was the one that made me scratch my head. Why spend the time and focus developing him and then kill him about halfway through the movie? Didn't really make any sense.

Also a shame is that David Fincher got so much interference from the studio. It was, like all Fincher movies, exceedingly dark both visually and stylisticly, but the finished product was not a Fincher edit. Apparently Fincher has washed his hands of the film. Would have been interesting to see what he had done with it if left to his own devices.

[pjstp20]

I think that is the main reason people hated it, but I actually liked that. Killing Hicks and the little girl left Ripley completely isolated and alone...again. She finds someone to hang on to with the Doctor, and then he gets offed as well. She had to be put in that position in order to do what she had to do and kill the Alien species once and for all.

That said, I agree with the lack of character development although I did think Charles Dutton's character was well developed. The doctor was the one that made me scratch my head. Why spend the time and focus developing him and then kill him about halfway through the movie? Didn't really make any sense.

Also a shame is that David Fincher got so much interference from the studio. It was, like all Fincher movies, exceedingly dark both visually and stylisticly, but the finished product was not a Fincher edit. Apparently Fincher has washed his hands of the film. Would have been interesting to see what he had done with it if left to his own devices.
If you havent already you need to buy the Quadrilogy box set. It has a better version of Alien 3 on it that fills in some of what was missing in the theater release, it isn't a "Director's Cut" but better none the less.. Some of the scenes they cut boggle my mind. The suits were afraid because Fincher was a rookie at the time, but he still made a good movie until it was interfered with.

[Bonegavel]

I still believe that Highlander 2 is /the/ worst movie I've ever seen in the theater. Not the worst movie I've ever seen, mind you, just the worst I've seen on the big screen. It was awful.
This is really what urged me to post.

Back in 1991, my brother and I went to see this catastrophe on the strength of the first flick. We couldn't stop talking about how bad HII was, and for a long time after that, Highlander II became the descriptor for anything bad.

At the end of last year, I had stumbled upon it on some channel that I have now blocked from my set and during the Holidays, I reminded my brother of it and, to my suprise, his memories of the foul stench it left on our brains was quite vivid.

[sterlingice]

The Luke/Vader/Palpatine scenes in ROTJ are the best scenes in any of the five films. For those scenes alone, I rate ROTJ as the best of the orginal trilogy. Taken as a whole, however, ESB is clearly the best of the five, in my mind. So, you're not totally alone... :)
I've always agreed with this evaluation. Compared to the other two, nothing really happened in ESB (there were a lot more "dead" scenes) yet it's the most widely acclaimed. I'm partial to the first, myself.

SI

[Mr. Wednesday]

Up until I saw ESB in series when the special edition was released, I would have gone with one of the other two (most likely the first, because there were a number of things in ROTJ that left me a bit cold), but when I saw it again it pretty well cemented it for me. (I did also see the theatrical runs of the other two SEs.)

[PsychoCop]

Meatballs was a great flick... Meatballs 2 was beyond horrible.

[tabucko]

I'm gonna go with family flicks instead of sci-fi. I wasn't impressed with Karate Kid 2, never seen 3, and Home Alone 2, never seen 3. I guess IMO the originals should have been the end of the line for those franchises. Never seen the 3rd installment because they looked so damn dumb.

[SplitPersonality1]

I was at the videostore the other day and I saw Beethoven's 5th in the Kid's section.


Beethoven's 5th?!? I knew about #2, but I cannot believe they actually made 3 more of these horrible, horrible films.

I don't know what it is about animal movies. I'm also shocked that there have been at least 4 Air Bud films. Yikes!