FA QB turns down $20mil/season to stay a FA

[Chubby]

I have a QB who I have ridden for 12 years. In year 12, he gets hurt and is never the same so I draft a top QB to replace him. I let the older QB's contract run out as I can't afford both of them. He gets offered over $20 million a year by the Eagles only to turn it down and stay a FA on my roster before the draft.

Anyone else see this? This is nuts! His loyalty is a 6 so I know it's not that.

[Hurst2112]

" I just want to play for a winner."

Yeah right.

Strange occurance. I would like to think there is a logical FOF explanation for this happening.

Let us know if he gets picked up in the late FA period.

If not, possibly keep him with a 1 year deal to help the new guy (if he's that kind of a QB).

Also, I am not real sure how this works but is the loyalty rating affected by any coach or scout ratings? Is the 6 a flat number or is it dependent upon other ratings?

[corbes]

Obviously, his agent is Scott Boras, who insists that he has a 5-year, $150 million offer "on the table."

[Chubby]

Yup he got signed by SF in the 1st week of Late FA for like $7.5mil a season over 2 years (the Philly deal was for 4 years I think)

[Greyroofoo]

I once had 2 qbs on my roster, a former overall #1 pick and was in the high 80s overall. The other one was an up-and-coming qb. Initially he wanted 100mil/5yrs type deal that may owner refused to pay. To my surprise he wasn't signed by the draft. I tried to sign him after the draft (the initial price was 38/5yrs) and he wouldn't sign. So he went through post-draft free agency w/o getting signed. After training camp some team had signed him to a 1yr/850k deal! What a steal!

[Shepp]

What probably happened was that the team that made the 20 mil offer didn't have the cap room available to sign him when he accepted. If the player had any other offers they are deleted and the player goes back to the free agent pool basically starting over from scratch.

[dunkem]

I think this is the one area that needs the help the most - free agency and the high salary demands from the top players in the later rounds of the initial period. There are just way too many high quality players who fall through both free agency periods only to be "stolen" for the 1 year minimum. Every year I go through free agency, it bugs me that there are all-pro caliber players signing for the 1 year minimum just because the AI didn't lower its salary demands sufficiently during the free agency periods.

Sometimes I think that the salary cap isn't what's preventing some of the teams from signing these players too. At the beginning of the season, there are a lot of teams that could have afforded to pay some of these high quality players realistic money for what the player might be worth. There may be a handful of teams which are slim on cap room, but the majority are pretty safe.

Hopefully in a future patch, the AI can get tweaked a little. I think all quality players should reflect offers during the free agency periods even if the offers fail to meet the player's salary demands. It's insane for an all-pro to go through the late free agency period without either a) receiving satisfactory offers from the AI teams or b) lower the player's demands sufficiently to receive a "satisfactory" offer. As I mentioned in another thread, if the computer teams with cap room would pick these guys up at a half way decent price, it wouldn't be so bad, but the minimum is not a "steal", it's a bug.

[amdaily]

If the AI would simply resign it's own players prior to the FA period, a large portion of this problem would be resolved. But then again, perhaps they are not resigning their players because the demands are so high.

Another thing about the computer AI is their liberal use of the cap out offer. Whenever you take a new job, pay close attention to the contacts of your players (all 13 of them anyways :)). Based on the signing bonus money they will be receiving for, say the next 4 years, you can tell they had renegioated 3 times in the past 3 years. And these players always have a base salary of $500K for year 1, and then $4.5 million in years 2 and 3. This AI backloading needs to stop too. (And on that note, it is possible for the human plaer to backload excessively as well; that should be fixed). This signing bonus money draining the AI's cap (due to this renegioations) is probably another of the causes for not locking up their players long term prior to the FA period.

[Peregrine]

I think this is the one area that needs the help the most - free agency and the high salary demands from the top players in the later rounds of the initial period. There are just way too many high quality players who fall through both free agency periods only to be "stolen" for the 1 year minimum. Every year I go through free agency, it bugs me that there are all-pro caliber players signing for the 1 year minimum just because the AI didn't lower its salary demands sufficiently during the free agency periods.

I've definitely noticed this. I think the problem is that when a player's offer falls through because of the cap, somehow they don't get reflagged properly, I have never seen one of these players signed after their first offer fell through, even in 2nd free agency. They inevitably fall through into one-year cheap contract land, even for top free agents. I think it might be a bug, but even if it's just draft logic, it needs to be addressed.

[Anthony]

i'd really like to see the insane contract demands stop. one thing i notice is that the players are not willing to budge very much from their demands either.

and i'd like to see more movement by the coaches. some coaches are on the same team for like eons.