few winger questions

[saintjo]

im not 100% sure how the wingers contribute, so i thought i would ask on here. i ask because i just upgraded one of my wingers from...
Player A:
Stanima-Passable
Playmaking-Inad
Winger-Passable

to...
Player B:
Stanima-Excellent
Playmaking-Solid
Winger-Passable

Question 1. A winger contributes to the midfield rating. Obviously, if he is played "Towards the middle" he contributes more. But if a winger is played "Offensive", will he contribute to the midfield as much as if he were played "Normal"?

Question 2. I used to play Player A "Towards the Middle" in my games. Can I expect Player B to contribute at least the same (if not more) to the midfield rating while playing "Offensive" or "Normal" than with Player A "Towards the Middle"? It is a 2 level jump in playmaking and 1 level in stanima, so I am hoping for a descent jump in this players midfield contribution. My hope is that I can at least maintain my midfield rating, while increasing that sides attack rating.

[BreizhManu]

Question 1. A winger contributes to the midfield rating. Obviously, if he is played "Towards the middle" he contributes more. But if a winger is played "Offensive", will he contribute to the midfield as much as if he were played "Normal"?

No clearly no

Question 2. I used to play Player A "Towards the Middle" in my games. Can I expect Player B to contribute at least the same (if not more) to the midfield rating while playing "Offensive" or "Normal" than with Player A "Towards the Middle"? It is a 2 level jump in playmaking and 1 level in stanima, so I am hoping for a descent jump in this players midfield contribution. My hope is that I can at least maintain my midfield rating, while increasing that sides attack rating.

On normal he will perform at least the same (and probably better), on offensive he'll perform less

[TargetPractice6]

Actually BM, setting s winger to offensive doesn't decrease his contribution to the midfield. It decreases his contribution to the defense.

[Masked]

I would expect the second player to contribute more to midfield when played normal or offensive compared to playing the first player as a winger towards the middle. The two level jump in both stamina and playmaking is pretty significant.

[saintjo]

great, thanks for eveyones help.

[robbgmaier]

Actually BM, setting s winger to offensive doesn't decrease his contribution to the midfield. It decreases his contribution to the defense.

I think there is one and only one BM, and BreizhManu is no BM :)

[TargetPractice6]

I didn't want to type his whole name :)

Plus I've seen him called BM in IRC before.

[Mr. Wednesday]

Question 1. A winger contributes to the midfield rating. Obviously, if he is played "Towards the middle" he contributes more. But if a winger is played "Offensive", will he contribute to the midfield as much as if he were played "Normal"?Yes. See Section 14, The Player. Offensive sacrifices defense for winger contribution to wing attack.

I can't answer your question 2, though... you might need to experiment.

[Poli]

I bought an excellent winger on the Ukraine U-20 team. Sent HT mail to the guy asking what he'd like the guy trained for. "Winger". Dang it.

He's excellent there, but poor at playmaking. I thought for sure he'd say playmaking.

Any thoughts? Should I train him for winger or playmaking? Which would be more beneficial?

[damnMikeBrown]

His PM is so bad, that winger is the only thing that would make him look better. So what, you train him and he pops to weak PM. wow...he'd be a formidable winger by that time. So you train him some more, and he pops to inad PM. Wow, he'd have been an Outstanding winger by that time.

You make the call Outstanding winger or a Excellent Wing with Inad PM. I don't think there's any question he's a winger trainee.

[Poli]

His PM is so bad, that winger is the only thing that would make him look better. So what, you train him and he pops to weak PM. wow...he'd be a formidable winger by that time. So you train him some more, and he pops to inad PM. Wow, he'd have been an Outstanding winger by that time.

You make the call Outstanding winger or a Excellent Wing with Inad PM. I don't think there's any question he's a winger trainee.

Duly noted.

Thanks, DMB.

[daedalus]

Question 1. A winger contributes to the midfield rating. Obviously, if he is played "Towards the middle" he contributes more. But if a winger is played "Offensive", will he contribute to the midfield as much as if he were played "Normal"?The question has already been answered in this thread, just remember it like this: playing "offensive" boosts his winger skill while lowering his defensive skill. playing "toward middle" boosts his playmaking skill while lowering his winger and defensive skill.
Question 2. I used to play Player A "Towards the Middle" in my games. Can I expect Player B to contribute at least the same (if not more) to the midfield rating while playing "Offensive" or "Normal" than with Player A "Towards the Middle"? It is a 2 level jump in playmaking and 1 level in stanima, so I am hoping for a descent jump in this players midfield contribution. My hope is that I can at least maintain my midfield rating, while increasing that sides attack rating.You can probably playing the new winger "offensive" to get an offensive boost (based on the fact that you're no longer playing him with a penalty to his winger skill) while still either maintaining or even improving midfield contribution from that wing.

But don't forget that passing matters how much your winger will contribute to your offense. Remember: your winger's passing skill is the third highest contributor to your wing attack.

[daedalus]

I bought an excellent winger on the Ukraine U-20 team. Sent HT mail to the guy asking what he'd like the guy trained for. "Winger". Dang it.

He's excellent there, but poor at playmaking. I thought for sure he'd say playmaking.

Any thoughts? Should I train him for winger or playmaking? Which would be more beneficial?His PM is so bad, that winger is the only thing that would make him look better. So what, you train him and he pops to weak PM. wow...he'd be a formidable winger by that time. So you train him some more, and he pops to inad PM. Wow, he'd have been an Outstanding winger by that time.

You make the call Outstanding winger or a Excellent Wing with Inad PM. I don't think there's any question he's a winger trainee.As dMB said, I wouldn't really bother with anything below inadequate. I snagged a solid playmaker and an excellent playmaker last year, both with inadequate winger skill to train them up as possession winger - I'm aiming them toward 3-4-3 teams - and they're now passable with a chance to pop solid by the end of the season. I think that's a worthwhile effort. That might be the way to go for you.