Ping Fritz, Re: American Idol Midget

[heybrad]

Get ready to start dialing the phone buddy.

I watch American Idol with my daughter and last night the show just got 10 times more interesting. A midget was moved to the second round.

[rkmsuf]

they were overly kind. no mercy to the midget population dammit...

[Subby]

I thought her audition was poignant.

[Fritz]

little people make me happy

[BigJohn&TheLions]

I would have liked to see more of her presentation. I found it to be a bit... umm... what's the word I'm looking for?

[rkmsuf]

abbreviated?

[Subby]

I think her performace was a little affected (to use Paula Abdul's favorite big word). On the other hand, she had a great voice and a dynamic personality. She might not make it much farther, but I think she earned her ticket to the Hollywood audition...

[cuervo72]

I think she did a good job. She was a little affected, and could have used a little less makeup. But she earned her way to the next round.

That last guy....they should have him on Letterman or something. He was a riot.

[rkmsuf]

I think she did a good job. She was a little affected, and could have used a little less makeup. But she earned her way to the next round.

That last guy....they should have him on Letterman or something. He was a riot.

She bang, she bang...

[Ksyrup]

He could replace the void left by the two Indian guys.

There's nothing better than the American Idol auditions. I would pay hundreds of dollars for a 2-day ticket to sit in on the auditions in a particular city. The number of people who not only think they can sing, but that they are recording-contract good, is astounding. Some can sing, but just aren't up to that level. Others...I can't even believe they showed up, much less got angry or upset at not being picked.

[rkmsuf]

He could replace the void left by the two Indian guys.

There's nothing better than the American Idol auditions. I would pay hundreds of dollars for a 2-day ticket to sit in on the auditions in a particular city. The number of people who not only think they can sing, but that they are recording-contract good, is astounding. Some can sing, but just aren't up to that level. Others...I can't even believe they showed up, much less got anger or upset at not being picked.

They do a good job in the cattle call auditions to insure that Randy, Paula and Simon get to see the best and the worst.

It's amazing that after two editions of this people are continually amazed and baffled by what they are looking for. It makes for funny tv...

[Sun Tzu]

I was laughing so hard at the asian fellow. If you didn't burst out in laughter everytime he got to the "she bangs" chorus line then you don't have a shred of a sense of humor in your.

[rkmsuf]

I was laughing so hard at the asian fellow. If you didn't burst out in laughter everytime he got to the "she bangs" chorus line then you don't have a shred of a sense of humor in your.

Combined with the arm movement it was tear inducing...

and I think it was actually "she bang"...

[Subby]

He doesn't have any professional training.

[rkmsuf]

He doesn't have any professional training.

You're kidding...

[BigJohn&TheLions]

I think she did a good job. She was a little affected, and could have used a little less makeup. But she earned her way to the next round.

That last guy....they should have him on Letterman or something. He was a riot.
SHe was a LITTLE affected??? :rolleyes:

[Sun Tzu]

Is it true that the asian guy that was on last night was actualy The Afoci?

[sabotai]

He could replace the void left by the two Indian guys.

There's nothing better than the American Idol auditions. I would pay hundreds of dollars for a 2-day ticket to sit in on the auditions in a particular city. The number of people who not only think they can sing, but that they are recording-contract good, is astounding. Some can sing, but just aren't up to that level. Others...I can't even believe they showed up, much less got angry or upset at not being picked.
My favorite is when after they are told no, they start singing again as if it'll change something. I always laugh when they do that.

It's amazing that after two editions of this people are continually amazed and baffled by what they are looking for. It makes for funny tv...
I know. People walk out and bitch about not knowing what they want. Is it such a secret that no one else knows they are looking for pop singers?

[rkmsuf]

Or how "it doesn't matter what they think" or "they are stupid". Go make it on your own then and don't waste time in line if you are so good.

You hear that over and over...

[sabotai]

EDIT: Nondola

I laughed out loud when Simon said no to the guy after asking him what he would do with a million dollars and he gave Simon the biggest BS answer ever. It was classic.

[MacroGuru]

My wife can't watch the brutality of Simon, I love it.

Last night, we were glued, cause we were waiting for the "She Bang" guy.

[rkmsuf]

EDIT: Nondola

I laughed out loud when Simon said no to the guy after asking him what he would do with a million dollars and he gave Simon the biggest BS answer ever. It was classic.

that guy was like a mimbo...

he had money going to all sorts of charities...

[sabotai]

Or how "it doesn't matter what they think" or "they are stupid". Go make it on your own then and don't waste time in line if you are so good.

You hear that over and over...
Yeah, and the "they don't know anything" or "they don't know what they are talking about" lines. Really? They don't!? Ok.

[MacroGuru]

I loved it as well. If the guy would have been as truthful as the girl saying she wanted a pink thunderbird, he would have made it.

edit: Thought I did a Dola

[heybrad]

I laughed out loud when Simon said no to the guy after asking him what he would do with a million dollars and he gave Simon the biggest BS answer ever. It was classic.
"I would give 100,000 to charity, then I'd invest 2000, then I'd give more to charity."

[rkmsuf]

My wife can't watch the brutality of Simon, I love it.

Last night, we were glued, cause we were waiting for the "She Bang" guy.

I don't see how he's all that brutal. Of the 3, he's the closest to a real world audition...

He's usually right on and is honest. For true aspiring performers they should appreciate that and listen up...he's in the business; they are not...

[Subby]

EDIT: Nondola

I laughed out loud when Simon said no to the guy after asking him what he would do with a million dollars and he gave Simon the biggest BS answer ever. It was classic. The best part of his answer was that he said he would set aside $2,000 of the one million dollars for investment purposes :)

[MacroGuru]

I don't see how he's all that brutal. Of the 3, he's the closest to a real world audition...

He's usually right on and is honest. For true aspiring performers they should appreciate that and listen up...he's in the business; they are not...
You are correct, and I explained that to her last night. She finally understood.

I also liked the prison guard that tried to get a second audition, and then when security asked them to leave, she sang the entire way.

[heybrad]

I wonder if he would have made it through if he had answered "Two chicks at the same time, man."

[Buzzbee]

little people make me happy

Only because they are waist high.

[Ksyrup]

I don't see how he's all that brutal. Of the 3, he's the closest to a real world audition...

He's usually right on and is honest. For true aspiring performers they should appreciate that and listen up...he's in the business; they are not...
I agree, although two things he does make him appear worse than he his:

1. He's constantly telling people that they are "the worst singers he's ever heard." You can only use that one so many times before it loses its affect and starts to sound unnecessarily mean.

2. He rarely distinguishes between truly awful singers and OK singers in his criticisms. I understand that for purposes of the competition, all sub-standard contestants are "awful," but I think he ought to save the really mean comments for the people who are truly *awful*, and be more honest with those who can sing a little, but not up to the quality of this show. Until they get an attitude or act as if they can't believe he doesn't think they are the greatest thing since sliced bread - then they're fair game, as far as I'm concerned.

I just think he tells too many people they are "awful" or "horrible," when they aren't as awful or horrible as many of the other contestants. I know it's his shtick, but it gets tiresome. And as someone who generally supports his criticisms, it makes it that much more difficult to defend him when he sends a chick with an OK voice off the stage crying when he tacks on an unnecessary "zinger" to play up to his persona. He can be honest while saving the brutality for those who deserve it.

[rkmsuf]

I agree, although two things he does make him appear worse than he his:

1. He's constantly telling people that they are "the worst singers he's ever heard." You can only use that one so many times before it loses its affect and starts to sound unnecessarily mean.

2. He rarely distinguishes between truly awful singers and OK singers in his criticisms. I understand that for purposes of the competition, all sub-standard contestants are "awful," but I think he ought to save the really mean comments for the people who are truly *awful*, and be more honest with those who can sing a little, but not up to the quality of this show. Until they get an attitude or act as if they can't believe he doesn't think they are the greatest thing since sliced bread - then they're fair game, as far as I'm concerned.

I just think he tells too many people they are "awful" or "horrible," when they aren't as awful or horrible as many of the other contestants. I know it's his shtick, but it gets tiresome. And as someone who generally supports his criticisms, it makes it that much more difficult to defend him when he sends a chick with an OK voice off the stage crying when he tacks on an unnecessary "zinger" to play up to his persona. He can be honest while saving the brutality for those who deserve it.

Maybe in the real world that is true but the show did a 29 last night.

Part of the appeal is Simon and the way he can polarize people. Without him the show isn't nearly as interesting. No one wants to hear Paula tell people they are nice and ok. He has openly said that part of the appeal of the show is humiliation. While I don't think he's humiliating people others do and that generates a buzz or interest. That was his approach with Cupid and other shows he has produced.

Judging by the ratings I'd say he is correct...

[Ksyrup]

It's certainly entertaining. And really, I'd rather him be too honest than what Paula does. I mean, seriously, someone could shit on a plate and hand it to her, and she'd have a hard time saying something negative.

[rkmsuf]

It's certainly entertaining. And really, I'd rather him be too honest than what Paula does. I mean, seriously, someone could shit on a plate and hand it to her, and she'd have a hard time saying something negative.

Never mind throwing water in the judges face...let's get fecal. Now that would be a ratings grabber...

[ISiddiqui]

Well I also think Simon plays it up a bit for ratings. Of course most of the time he is spot on. I mean, people think HE'S mean? What do you think regular people on the street would say about these people? Probably much worse.

[KevinNU7]

she bang, she bang

LOL!

[KevinNU7]

From Fox's Online Recap of the Show
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...Moving on, we have William Hung. Oh, don’t be so immature! Billy Hung, he’s not so good. Back to C.A.D. and Berkeley’s engineering program for him. Although if he builds bridges like he sings, we’re all gonna die!

[cthomer5000]

I agree, although two things he does make him appear worse than he his:

1. He's constantly telling people that they are "the worst singers he's ever heard." You can only use that one so many times before it loses its affect and starts to sound unnecessarily mean.

2. He rarely distinguishes between truly awful singers and OK singers in his criticisms. I understand that for purposes of the competition, all sub-standard contestants are "awful," but I think he ought to save the really mean comments for the people who are truly *awful*, and be more honest with those who can sing a little, but not up to the quality of this show. Until they get an attitude or act as if they can't believe he doesn't think they are the greatest thing since sliced bread - then they're fair game, as far as I'm concerned.

I just think he tells too many people they are "awful" or "horrible," when they aren't as awful or horrible as many of the other contestants. I know it's his shtick, but it gets tiresome. And as someone who generally supports his criticisms, it makes it that much more difficult to defend him when he sends a chick with an OK voice off the stage crying when he tacks on an unnecessary "zinger" to play up to his persona. He can be honest while saving the brutality for those who deserve it.

You hit on my every feeling about Simon perfectly. I think the guy is hilarious, and makes the show what it is. Still, he's told way too many people they were the worst he's ever heard.

I think he just needs a thesaurus to widen things up a bit. And you're dead on about him needing to differentiate between "Eh, you're ok... but not good enough" and "She Bang!" level of bad.


I gotta give Paula some credit for becoming a slightly more legit judge this season. She's gone from saying every single person should advance to being "fairly" objective. At least she's not an auto-yes anymore.

And Randy just wishes he was Simon, he brings next-to-nothing to the table.

Every year I enjoy the first few episodes. As soon as they get into the weekly vote-offs, i stop watching. The cattle calls are the only interesting part of the show (to me).

[cthomer5000]

It's certainly entertaining. And really, I'd rather him be too honest than what Paula does. I mean, seriously, someone could shit on a plate and hand it to her, and she'd have a hard time saying something negative.

Not nearly as much as in past seasons. She's still a pushover, but she was just ridiculous in past seasons. She basically said yes to everyone, probably seeing too much of herself in them. Face it, it's tough to have someone that everyone knows was at best an OK singer telling them they aren't good enough.

[The Afoci]

Is it true that the asian guy that was on last night was actualy The Afoci?

Yep.

[The Afoci]

I like to dance as well as sing. I am the total package.

[MacroGuru]

And you never had professional training!

[The Afoci]

Or sexual intercourse with anything besides my hand or the wall.

[Franklinnoble]

And you never had professional training!

Just because prostitution is illegal in most of the U.S. doesn't mean that the midgets who practice it aren't "professional."

[Ksyrup]

...let's get fecal.
Isn't that an Olivia Netwon-John song? Maybe someone from Hawaii will be so kind as to give us their rendition tonight...

[Ksyrup]

Not nearly as much as in past seasons. She's still a pushover, but she was just ridiculous in past seasons. She basically said yes to everyone, probably seeing too much of herself in them. Face it, it's tough to have someone that everyone knows was at best an OK singer telling them they aren't good enough.
Admittedly, I came late to the table on this show. Never saw the first one, and only started watching the second one once they got through the cattle calls. I can't stand the vote-offs, but my wife watched every one. This is the only entertaining part for me.

I love Randy Jackson, but only because I remember him with his bubble butt and Grace Jones hairdo when he was the bassist for Journey on their Raised On Radio tour. Good times.

[MJ4H]

I absolutely love this show. Mainly because of the early audition phase. Nothing yet this season has come close to the sheer comic genius of the guy from last season that tried to sing the Star Spangled Banner. He didn't even know the words. I was hooked on the show from THAT instant.

[ISiddiqui]

Paula has been much better. Simon said yes to a girl with a 'Hawaii loves Simon' shirt and Paula and Randy said no. Paula was the swing no vote... amazing. Then again, Simon just liked the shirt :D.

[sabotai]

I thought she was good enough to get ot the next round. They've let in people I thought were worse last night and last week....

[Ksyrup]

That was unbelievable. She had to be the only person to get Simon's vote and not make it to the next round.

My wife is pregnant, and in the 6th month, the baby is sitting pretty squarely on the bladder, causing her to have to go to the bathroom pretty frequently - and to have less control than usual. Well, we're watching tonight, and William Hung comes on again, and we're laughing through his whole "performance," and then he stops, and gets that look on his face and does something strange with his mouth...and we lost it. But my wife really lost it. She *literally* - and I don't mean figuratively - peed her pants.

William Hung made my wife pee her pants. I hope he's happy.

[KevinNU7]

William Hung made my wife pee her pants. I hope he's happy.The Afoci will have a field day with this

[rkmsuf]

That was unbelievable. She had to be the only person to get Simon's vote and not make it to the next round.

My wife is pregnant, and in the 6th month, the baby is sitting pretty squarely on the bladder, causing her to have to go to the bathroom pretty frequently - and to have less control than usual. Well, we're watching tonight, and William Hung comes on again, and we're laughing through his whole "performance," and then he stops, and gets that look on his face and does something strange with his mouth...and we lost it. But my wife really lost it. She *literally* - and I don't mean figuratively - peed her pants.

William Hung made my wife pee her pants. I hope he's happy.

Had the same reaction last night. When She Bang came on again I lost it. I need that for a screen saver or something...

When he was just standing there staring I had tears...

"skat lady" was interesting...more scary than funny though...

[KevinNU7]

Any find any pictures of William Hung online yet?

[rkmsuf]

Any find any pictures of William Hung online yet?


http://www.idolfan.org/pictures/seasonthree/la/231.jpg

http://www.idolfan.org/pictures/seasonthree/la/225.jpg

[Ksyrup]

That first picture - I think that's the one! That's right after he finishes. He looks like a dog that just got caught eating out of the cat box and is waiting for punishment.

[Thomkal]

Let's not forget though that Simon can be wrong about people. Case in point, none other than Clay Aiken. He didn't like Clay from the start (can't remember but I think he voted no to him going to Hollywood?) because of his "better suited for Broadway" style. He only warmed up to him later in the show when he lost some of that style. Clay went on to have the #1 album for the year I think?

And another example was that guy (who really was dreadful) who went down and got five people on the beach to say they liked him (and he was better on the beach without all that stupid dancing and weird interpretation of the song he sang for the audition)

So it would be nice if could seperate his comments from those with truly no talent to those who with some training might improve greatly. I thought the long red-haired girl from yesterday or the day before's audition was a good example of this. She probably wasn't good enough to go to Hollywood, but she had some talent and potential.

Overall I wasn't impressed as much with the talent this year than last. I'm not sure any voice stood out for me like Clay, Ruben, and Kimberley Locke's did last year. It will be interesting to see next weeks shows when the judges pick their favorite audition.

[Ksyrup]

Clay is better suited for Broadway, despite what millions of mindless music -"hearers" (most people don't really listen to music) think. He could quite possibly be this generation's Barry Manilow - although I can't think of an NFL QB he resembles. He's got a great voice, but an "idol" he is not.

Not there's anything wrong with that. But I think Simon was dead-on correct about him.

Come to think of it, Clay does kinda look like Kirk Reuter, so at least he got a general "resembles a professional athlete" thing going on...

Otherwise, as I said previously in this thread, I agree that he needs to distinguish between those with no talent and those with not enough talent.

[rkmsuf]

Let's not forget though that Simon can be wrong about people. Case in point, none other than Clay Aiken. He didn't like Clay from the start (can't remember but I think he voted no to him going to Hollywood?) because of his "better suited for Broadway" style. He only warmed up to him later in the show when he lost some of that style. Clay went on to have the #1 album for the year I think?

And another example was that guy (who really was dreadful) who went down and got five people on the beach to say they liked him (and he was better on the beach without all that stupid dancing and weird interpretation of the song he sang for the audition)

So it would be nice if could seperate his comments from those with truly no talent to those who with some training might improve greatly. I thought the long red-haired girl from yesterday or the day before's audition was a good example of this. She probably wasn't good enough to go to Hollywood, but she had some talent and potential.

Overall I wasn't impressed as much with the talent this year than last. I'm not sure any voice stood out for me like Clay, Ruben, and Kimberley Locke's did last year. It will be interesting to see next weeks shows when the judges pick their favorite audition.

They didn't show very many successful auditions since you'll have much more air time for the real talent going forward. I'm sure there are some good ones in there.

I wasn't impressed with Clay either and agreed with the Broadway opinion until Aiken changed some of his schtick. Even now I don't particularly like him much.

I do think the three work very well together. Simon looks for the style, the visuals and great voice talent. He wants excellence out of the gate. Randy sees more of the potential and coachability. I suppose Paula falls in the middle...

[sabotai]

Simon did vote Clay to Hollywood during the audition (if I remember, it was just him and Randy that day). But he told him to work on his look (you have to admit, he did not look like an "idol").

It was later during the live shows with the audience that Simon said Clay would be better suited for Broadway. At which time everyone decided to boo Simon. I didn't get that. He tells Clay he could make a fortune on Broadway...and he gets boo'ed.

[MacroGuru]

William Hung Desktop to be released soon!