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WSUCougar
02-06-2004, 01:40 PM
There are ten colors listed below in alphabetical order. I have randomly mixed their order and placed them in a vertical list numbered 1-10, top to bottom. The object of the game is to be the first to list them in their correct order. To obtain clues, you may ask each color any question, one at a time (one per post, and you may not post questions back to back).

1. Black
2. Blue
3. Brown
4. Gray
5. Green
6. Orange
7. Purple
8. Red
9. White
10. Yellow

Note the following:
> Each color can only see who is immediately ahead of them and behind them in line - and doesn't know what spot they are in unless it's first or last.
> The colors are divided into three groups as follows:

Cools (truth-tellers)
Blue
Green
Purple

Hots (liars)
Red
Orange
Yellow

Fickles (both)
Brown
Black
White
Gray

Fido
02-06-2004, 01:42 PM
Are fickles consistant? Does each always either lie or tell the truth or is their answer random?

rkmsuf
02-06-2004, 01:43 PM
Where is John Titor when I need him...

Coffee Warlord
02-06-2004, 01:48 PM
Welp, so much for that question!

QuikSand
02-06-2004, 01:50 PM
Note the following:
> Each color can only see who is ahead of them and behind them in line - and doesn't know what spot they are in unless it's first or last.

I think I bear the responsibility for this ambiguity... I think the proper wording should really be:

> Each color can only see who is immediately ahead of them and behind them in line - and doesn't know what spot they are in unless it's first or last.

QuikSand
02-06-2004, 01:51 PM
I wonder if it might be wise to keep this unrevealed, and instead justtell us how many of each there are in the group?

Though conditional questions can poke through this stuff, I fear.

WSUCougar
02-06-2004, 01:53 PM
Are fickles consistant? Does each always either lie or tell the truth or is their answer random?
They each fluctuate predictably back and forth between true and false answers (T/F/T/F), but their initial pattern may start with either.

Fido
02-06-2004, 01:56 PM
Blue - What color is in front of you?

WSUCougar
02-06-2004, 01:57 PM
Blue - What color is in front of you?
Orange

Coffee Warlord
02-06-2004, 02:04 PM
What color is behind you, Blueboy?

Fido
02-06-2004, 02:04 PM
Green- What color is in front of you?
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WSUCougar
02-06-2004, 02:09 PM
What color is behind you, Blueboy?
Black.

Green- What color is in front of you?
Red

Coffee Warlord
02-06-2004, 02:11 PM
Heh. As me and fido work out the obvious ones.

Yo Green. Who's on your ass.

Fido
02-06-2004, 02:17 PM
In Coffee's terms:

Purple - who's ass are you on?

Coffee Warlord
02-06-2004, 02:18 PM
And we'll just finish the Easy Obvious Ones by asking who Purple is behind.

Now for the fun questions!

Fido
02-06-2004, 02:21 PM
Red - who's NOT in front of you?

WSUCougar
02-06-2004, 02:28 PM
Yo Green. Who's on your ass.
Orange

Purple - who's ass are you on?
white

who Purple is behind
I'll assume that you meant who's behind purple: Gray

Coffee Warlord
02-06-2004, 02:41 PM
Yellow. Are you in first?

WSUCougar
02-06-2004, 02:43 PM
Red - who's NOT in front of you?
Orange

Yellow. Are you in first?
Yes

NOTE: Keep in mind that these are both liars, and nothing they say can be trusted. They are not merely "opposite of the truth" liars.

Coffee Warlord
02-06-2004, 02:46 PM
Are they 'anything but the truth' liars? IE they cannot say something that is true, correct? Or, as I re-read your above line...is it simply that they will say whatever the hell they want at any given time?

Fido
02-06-2004, 02:49 PM
Quote:
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Orange
NOTE: Keep in mind that these are both liars, and nothing they say can be trusted. They are not merely "opposite of the truth" liars.
Right, but Red is a liar, and therefore should not make truthful statements. The statement he just made is the truth - Orange is NOT in front of him.

Fido
02-06-2004, 02:50 PM
Gray - who is in front of you?

(it alternates t/f/t/f/ lets find out if its starting on t or f)

Coffee Warlord
02-06-2004, 02:51 PM
Gray, are you in last?

WSUCougar
02-06-2004, 02:55 PM
A liar's answers cannot be trusted, but that doesn't mean they can't be true. The only reason you know that Red's answer was true is because of prior questioning.

Otherwise, a liar becomes a truth-teller simply by reverse wording the questions as Fido did.

WSUCougar
02-06-2004, 02:56 PM
Gray - who is in front of you?
White

Gray, are you in last?
No

Fido
02-06-2004, 02:57 PM
[removed now irrelevant question about gray]

Coffee Warlord
02-06-2004, 02:59 PM
I should have the right answer, I think, depending on the answer to Fido's question.

Fido
02-06-2004, 03:00 PM
A liar's answers cannot be trusted, but that doesn't mean they can't be true. The only reason you know that Red's answer was true is because of prior questioning.

Otherwise, a liar becomes a truth-teller simply by reverse wording the questions as Fido did.
OK...so the three categories are:
Cools - answers can alwaysbe trusted
Hots - answers can never be trusted
Fickles - alternate between being a hot and a cool.

WSUCougar
02-06-2004, 03:00 PM
Gray - who is behind you?
Yellow

WSUCougar
02-06-2004, 03:01 PM
OK...so the three categories are:
Cools - answers can alwaysbe trusted
Hots - answers can never be trusted
Fickles - alternate between being a hot and a cool.
Correct

Fido
02-06-2004, 03:02 PM
White - who is in front of you?

Coffee Warlord
02-06-2004, 03:02 PM
Repeat Fido's question, now that he's in truth mode. Gray, who is behind you.

THEN I'll have the answer.

WSUCougar
02-06-2004, 03:05 PM
White - who is in front of you?
Yellow

Repeat Fido's question, now that he's in truth mode. Gray, who is behind you.
Red

Fido
02-06-2004, 03:07 PM
White - who is behind you?

WSUCougar
02-06-2004, 03:14 PM
White - who is behind you?
Purple

Fido
02-06-2004, 03:16 PM
Brown
White
Purple
Gray
Red
Green
Orange
Blue
Black
Yellow

WSUCougar
02-06-2004, 03:17 PM
Brown
White
Purple
Gray
Red
Green
Orange
Blue
Black
Yellow
Yup!

I'm gonna go dunk my head in an ice bucket now. My brain hurts.

Coffee Warlord
02-06-2004, 03:26 PM
Heh. Serves me right for going afk for 5 minutes.