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Flame Eater
02-13-2004, 08:30 AM
Anybody see it last night?

Jenna M (swim suit model) voluntarily left the game to be with her mother who was dying of cancer. Everybody cried when she left. At the end of the show the producers showed a little message that her mom died 8 days after her return from Survivor.

I'm glad she got back home in time. My father died of a sudden heart attack when I was 18. I didn't get to say good-by or anything.

rkmsuf
02-13-2004, 08:32 AM
For all the hype I heard about this being a really good episode I thought it was awful. I wasn't struck with emotion and that Home Depot build thing just didn't do it for me...

Subby
02-13-2004, 08:36 AM
My wife and I got chills when they mentioned her mother died just eight days later.

Probst asked her how she knew her mother was getting worse since she was stranded on an island without outside communication. Her response was something to the effect of, "She's my mother - I'm her only child...I just <i>know</i>..."

Say what you will about reality tv, but that was pretty powerful stuff....

rkmsuf
02-13-2004, 08:38 AM
I guess if I hadn't had seen the last series when all Jenna did was complain and almost quit I would have bought in more.

Obviously she did the right thing and it was good she got back but I found myself being annoyed for some reason. I mean why was she there in the first place?

Subby
02-13-2004, 08:39 AM
Obviously she did the right thing and it was good she got back but I found myself being annoyed for some reason. I mean why was she there in the first place? To win a million dollars, silly!

rkmsuf
02-13-2004, 08:40 AM
To win a million dollars, silly!

Thank you Mr. Helper...

Kind of hard to win if you have no intention of staying for the game...

Ksyrup
02-13-2004, 08:57 AM
I don't watch Survivor, but I happened to see the end last night after my wife finished watching Friends (God please take me now). I'm sorry, but I've seen those reality show expose`s, and what they show you isn't what is really going on. I have no clue, but my guess is that she was receiving updates from the producers and knew the end was near, and decided to leave at that point. In fact, they probably had that set up as a condition of her coming on the show.

The way she said that her mom was getting worse, and Probst had to cover her ass by asking how she knew, and she said she felt it...I don't buy it. I think she was either getting regular updates, or they had an agreement that if her mom took a turn for the worst, they would let her know. If that's the case, and they passed that staged event off as "compelling reality TV"...that makes me sick. When they ended the show with the "her mom died 8 days later" screen, I had the feeling in my gut that I was watching a psycho/ic John Edwards show or something.

rkmsuf
02-13-2004, 09:01 AM
You missed the best part then when Richard Hatch had a brawl with a shark...now that's entertainment...

mauchow
02-13-2004, 09:08 AM
You missed the best part then when Richard Hatch had a brawl with a shark...now that's entertainment...

Agreed. That was pretty funny.. I just can't believe he caught that thing with his bare hands. That was quite amazing. Hatch is quite a character too at the same time.

Of course yesterday this happened:

Shark Bite (http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040212/ap_on_re_au_an/australia_shark_attack_2)

About the same size as the one Hatch got, huh?

Subby
02-13-2004, 09:09 AM
I don't watch Survivor, but I happened to see the end last night after my wife finished watching Friends (God please take me now). I'm sorry, but I've seen those reality show expose`s, and what they show you isn't what is really going on. I have no clue, but my guess is that she was receiving updates from the producers and knew the end was near, and decided to leave at that point. In fact, they probably had that set up as a condition of her coming on the show.

The way she said that her mom was getting worse, and Probst had to cover her ass by asking how she knew, and she said she felt it...I don't buy it. I think she was either getting regular updates, or they had an agreement that if her mom took a turn for the worst, they would let her know. If that's the case, and they passed that staged event off as "compelling reality TV"...that makes me sick. When they ended the show with the "her mom died 8 days later" screen, I had the feeling in my gut that I was watching a psycho/ic John Edwards show or something. Don't be so cynical!!!! :)

Ksyrup
02-13-2004, 09:13 AM
It's the only way I can get through life. My wife still lives in Mickey Mouse Land, so someone in our family needs to be the "reality check."

rkmsuf
02-13-2004, 09:15 AM
It's the only way I can get through life. My wife still lives in Mickey Mouse Land, so someone in our family needs to be the "reality check."

When you start asserting that the show isn't really on an island but in a studio then I'll be concerned...

moriarty
02-13-2004, 10:35 AM
I have no clue, but my guess is that she was receiving updates from the producers and knew the end was near, and decided to leave at that point. In fact, they probably had that set up as a condition of her coming on the show.

The way she said that her mom was getting worse, and Probst had to cover her ass by asking how she knew, and she said she felt it...I don't buy it. I think she was either getting regular updates, or they had an agreement that if her mom took a turn for the worst, they would let her know. .

I completely agree. Even with the editing, this looked very scripted. I don't blame the producers for telling her, but I don't know why they couldn't just come out and say so.

BTW as I was watching I was saying what a wimp/quitter she was and how she was making up all the drama about her mom. Boy I felt like an idiot when they showed the note at the end.

Ksyrup
02-13-2004, 10:40 AM
I have no doubt that the emotion she showed was real. And that's partly why I view her statement that her mom was "getting worse" as a slip of the tongue. She was being a human being, not a reality show contestant at that point, and I think she let slip that she had gotten information since she's been on the show.

heybrad
02-13-2004, 10:51 AM
They just happened to have a boat waiting to take her home.

???

bbor
02-13-2004, 10:51 AM
It was a powerful show..do i think the producers told her something...yes...does it matter...no.

And when the message flashed at the end of the show there was nary a dry eye in the house.

rkmsuf
02-13-2004, 10:59 AM
It was a powerful show..do i think the producers told her something...yes...does it matter...no.

And when the message flashed at the end of the show there was nary a dry eye in the house.

nary a dry eye? come on...I guess I missed all the emotion then...

I suppose that's crass but I really don't tune in for an extended edition of general hospital...

Suicane75
02-13-2004, 11:09 AM
The minute they began asking the other contestents at the challenge what they thought of her decision I changed the channel. If she wanted to leave fine and I feel bad for her and it's a good decision, but I dont wanna watch the Sally Jessy Rapheal show.

Blade
02-13-2004, 11:40 AM
The minute they began asking the other contestents at the challenge what they thought of her decision I changed the channel. If she wanted to leave fine and I feel bad for her and it's a good decision, but I dont wanna watch the Sally Jessy Rapheal show.

Yah, I agree with you...it is her decision, if she wants to go, then it doesn't matter what anyone else's opinion is. I just felt like they were trying to milk some more drama out of it. As it was, she felt bad about being there, and knew she had made a bad decision, so that last thing she needs is the other contestants talking about how they would make a different decision.

Marmel
02-13-2004, 12:23 PM
The minute they began asking the other contestents at the challenge what they thought of her decision I changed the channel. If she wanted to leave fine and I feel bad for her and it's a good decision, but I dont wanna watch the Sally Jessy Rapheal show.

Then you missed Big Tom's hilarious response!

AgustusM
02-13-2004, 01:45 PM
I hate to be so crass about such a horrible thing and I surely wouldn't wish that on anyone.

But

1. to me she was always the most undeserving winner, a total drama queen and this just felt like more of the same - drama, pay attention to me kind of stuff (at least early on in the show with the bug bites and general whining)
2. what the hell was she thinking even going if she knew how sick her mom was, not to mention she already won once, why would she go at all. Wouldn't matter to me if I was penniless and had never been I don't understand why she would have gone at all.
3. more and more survivor feels "scripted" and less "real" - It seems to me they had to have told her something

having said all that I do feel for her and her family.

kingfc22
02-13-2004, 02:07 PM
All I have to say is Richard is cracking me up. All his sarcastic remarks and biting the shark after it bit him. Just too funny.

RPI-Fan
02-13-2004, 02:27 PM
They just happened to have a boat waiting to take her home.

???

I think they always have something around for emergencies (like in Season 2 when there was a serious injury with a fire or something).

rkmsuf
02-13-2004, 02:31 PM
That portion was obviously scripted. They knew before they rolled she was going home since she probably told the producers. I'll bet they didn't even set up the next challenge.

How could, within the span of two minutes, several other tribe members get so emotional unless they knew what was going on prior to the "shocking" anouncement...

bbor
02-13-2004, 02:59 PM
Her mother was in a recovery home...she took a turn for the worse after Jenna left for the island.

RK..The show is heavily edited...remeber that..so i am sure there was more than 2 minutes between when the contestants were told and when they started crying.

rkmsuf
02-13-2004, 03:00 PM
Her mother was in a recovery home...she took a turn for the worse after Jenna left for the island.

RK..The show is heavily edited...remeber that..so i am sure there was more than 2 minutes between when the contestants were told and when they started crying.

Good point...

Toddzilla
02-13-2004, 03:27 PM
1. to me she was always the most undeserving winner, .

Dude, anyone who lasts until the end in that game, day in and day out, and despite their personality flaws (1) doesn't get booted out and (2) convinces the people that *she booted out herself* to award her a million dollars deserves to win.