FOF2K4: Something I just noticed

[Ben E Lou]

RB's seem to be FAR less likely than other positions to break out significantly. Virtually every top 20-rated back in the game is a first, or early-second round pick. Anyone else notice this?

[corbes]

RB's seem to be FAR less likely than other positions to break out significantly. Virtually every top 20-rated back in the game is a first, or early-second round pick. Anyone else notice this?
I just yesterday had a fourth-round RB break out right after the draft. I think it was something like 29/44 to 56/76.

I don't have details from the draft, but I know that he fit the main criteria of your "AAA" player status.

[rpommier]

Not really... I haven't had a pick in the top 20 in about 15yrs and always have to pay through the nose for a RB. I've only had 2 good ones and those were when I had losing seasons and better picks.

I'm certainly going to pay attention in my league and start hunting for them...

Roderick

[Ben E Lou]

Do a "Recommend" search on the highest current-valued RB's in your league and let me know what you see as far as when they were drafted.

[SackAttack]

Computer had a 6th rounder be Offensive ROY last year, and I had a 6th rounder rush for 800 yards as the 2nd string RB last night.

[Ben E Lou]

Computer had a 6th rounder be Offensive ROY last year, and I had a 6th rounder rush for 800 yards as the 2nd string RB last night.Yeah....but I'm talking from a pure ratings standpoint.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Do a "Recommend" search on the highest current-valued RB's in your league and let me know what you see as far as when they were drafted.
Okay, let's see ...

End of 2018 season
Top 13 RB's are 1st round picks, #14 is a 6th round, #15-20 are 1st rounders. So 19 of top 20 are 1st round picks.

By comparison
Top 6 WR's are 1stRd, #7 is 4thRd, #8 is 1st, #9 is 3rd, #10 is 2nd
11 thru 20 are 7 1st's, 2 2nd's, and 1 3rd.
So 14 of 20 WR's are 1st rounders.

Top 20 CB's are
13 - 1sts, 4 - 2nd Rd, 1 each - 4th, 6th & undrafted.

Top 20 QB's are
14 - 1sts, 3 - 2nd Rd, 1 each 3rd, 4th, & undrafted.

Interesting.

[gstelmack]

I had a 6th rounder rush for 800 yards as the 2nd string RB last night
800 yards as a second stringer is a pretty impressive game! How many yards did your starter generate, and was the other team's defensive line even playing? How lopsided was the score?

:D

[SackAttack]

Yeah....but I'm talking from a pure ratings standpoint.

So am I. Neither was projected to be any good, and both have blossomed, ratings-wise, into top 10 RBs.

[SackAttack]

800 yards as a second stringer is a pretty impressive game! How many yards did your starter generate, and was the other team's defensive line even playing? How lopsided was the score?

:D

My starter generated about 950 yards rushing. As far as the scores, well...

Week 1: 27 - 13
Week 2: 6 - 23
Week 3: 13 - 35
Week 4: 23 - 19
Week 5: 23 - 33
Week 6: 17 - 10
Week 7: BYE
Week 8: 20 - 26
Week 9: 24 -12
Week 10 14 - 7
Week 11: 30 - 24
Week 12: 16 - 3
Week 13: 34 - 28
Week 14: 31 - 10
Week 15: 14 - 11
Week 16: 3 - 12
Week 17: 35 - 10

Seven of the sixteen games were under 20 points for us, with only two games over 30. Basically, a lot of spinning our wheels, with not a lot to show for it on the scoreboard (although we did win the FO Bowl).

[SackAttack]

dola - dammit, I meant for the season, and not a single game. Did I ever, anywhere, say that he did it in one game? Bastard. :p

[corbes]

Here are my running back draft positions for 2 different careers I have. The first career is in 2007, so a good number of "real" players still exist in the league. I separated them from computer-generated players. The second career is in 2033, so all players are computer generated.

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The 8th round pick represents an undrafted free agent. I was going to analyze this data, but didn't feel it was necessary. Essentially, what it says is that top running backs in real life are far more likely to come from lower rounds than the computer generated players.

Or it means that the roster file I used to start the game (primelord's) combined with the X-factor created skewed results in the initial game file. The more I think about it, the more this explanation seems logical to explain my results.

But even if that left column is skewed, the two columns of game-generated players represents that only 2 top running backs out of 24 were drafted outside of the first round. (That makes my player, drafted in the fourth round, that much rarer!)

[gstelmack]

dola - dammit, I meant for the season, and not a single game. Did I ever, anywhere, say that he did it in one game? Bastard. :p
You said "last night". I was impressed.