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JeeberD
04-13-2004, 11:25 PM
No thanks for these memories (http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=schoenfield/040407)

By David Schoenfield
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No sport causes as much misery as baseball. As Satchel Paige once said, "You can look it up."

We give to you -- with much pleasure, actually, because it makes us all feel part of one happy, miserable baseball family -- the most misery-inducing moments for each team over the past 25 years.

Why 25 years? You got to forget about it after that long. Yes, Red Sox fans, even Bucky Bleepin' Dent.

Anaheim Angels -- The Angels were just one strike away from reaching the World Series in the 1986 ALCS when Boston's Dave Henderson hits a go-ahead home run off Donnie Moore.

Arizona Diamondbacks -- We all felt the pain as Byung-Hyun Kim crouched on the mound at Yankee Stadium, unable to comprehend giving up a game-tying home run in the ninth inning of the World Series for the second straight game.

Atlanta Braves -- Mark Wohlers' hanging slider to Jim Leyritz, Game 4, 1996 World Series. Braves blow 6-0 lead to the Yankees and eventually lose in 10 innings -- and lose the Series after winning the first two games.

Baltimore Orioles -- The O's started the 1988 season with a 12-0 loss to the Brewers. And things got worse -- 21 consecutive losses worse.

Boston Red Sox -- Mookie. Buckner. Ball. Glove. Under. Knight. Pain. Misery. Agony. Torture.

Chicago Cubs -- You kids may know only of Steve Bartman, but real Cubs fans know the pain of the ball rolling through the long legs of Leon Durham, Chicago's 3-0 lead over San Diego in Game 5 of the 1984 NLCS evaporating quicker than you can say "Let's play two."

Chicago White Sox -- On July 31, 1997, the White Sox trailed the Indians by 3 1/2 games in the AL Central, when penurious owner Jerry Reinsdorf raised the white flag by trading pitchers Wilson Alvarez, Roberto Hernandez and Danny Darwin to the Giants for prospects. (Close second: uniforms with collars. Close third: Disco Demolition Night.)

Cincinnati Reds -- Hey, Reds fans: He did it. Get over it and move on.

Cleveland Indians -- It's a routine groundball to Tony Fernandez ...

Colorado Rockies -- Even fans knew that signing Mike Hampton -- a good but overrated pitcher who had pitched in two great pitchers' park (Astrodome, Shea Stadium) -- for eight years at $121 million was a bold but reckless move.

Detroit Tigers -- 2003.

Florida Marlins -- Four hours after the Marlins win the 1997 World Series, owner Wayne Huizenga sells off Kevin Brown, Moises Alou, Al Leiter, Jeff Conine and Robb Nen for a month's worth of free rentals at Blockbuster.

Houston Astros -- The most underrated of misery-inducing franchises, with October 12, 1980 absorbing the biggest shot to the abdomen: Nolan Ryan fails to hold a 5-2 lead in the 8th inning of Game 5 of the NLCS against the Phillies, who win the game and a trip to the World Series in the 10th.

Kansas City Royals -- The Tony Muser Era finishes a strong second to any highlight of Willie Wilson batting in the 1980 World Series.

Los Angeles Dodgers -- Tom Niedenfuer, meet Jack Clark.

Milwaukee Brewers -- You mean besides the past 11 years? Let's try Game 7 of the '82 World Series, Brewers leading the Cardinals 3-1 in the bottom of the 6th. Starter Pete Vuckovich is replaced by Bob McClure after giving up two singles. McClure gives up a walk, single, single ... game over, Series lost.

Minnesota Twins -- A week after the 2001 World Series, the Twins are one of two teams earmarked for contraction by commissioner Bud Selig.

Montreal Expos -- The Expos actually made the playoffs once, back in 1981. The deciding game of the NLCS was tied 1-1 when manager Jim Fanning replaces starter Ray Burris with Steve Rogers in the 9th. Rick Monday homers to send the Dodgers to the World Series.

New York Mets -- Following the utter joy of Robin Ventura's 15th-inning grand-slam single to win Game 5 of the 1999 NLCS against the Braves and then Mike Piazza's homer in Game 6 to help the Mets rally from a 5-0 deficit, Kenny Rogers had Mets fans cursing for weeks after he walked in the series-winning run with the bases loaded in the bottom of the 11th.

New York Yankees -- Before the dynasty, the Yankees were just another franchise. When Edgar Martinez doubled in Ken Griffey Jr. in the 1995 playoffs, fans everywhere rejoiced. Yankee fans, bless them, cried big, fat tears of misery.

Oakland Athletics -- Gibson's homer still hurts, that '90 Series sweep still causes cold sweats, the McGwire trade still induces strange rashes, but Jeremy Giambi's failure to slide makes A's fans feel a numbness in the brain which forces them to curl up into a fetal position.

Philadelphia Phillies -- Why the hell was Mitch Williams in the game?

Pittsburgh Pirates -- In the endless string of the space-time continuum, when the play happens over and over and over, Sid Bream gets thrown out at home plate. Every time. Except one.

St. Louis Cardinals -- Sure, Don Denkinger is the convenient scapegoat, but maybe if Jack Clark catches that foul pop or Darrell Porter doesn't allow that passed ball, then maybe the Royals don't score two runs to win the game and for sure Whitey don't blow his top in Game 7.

San Diego Padres -- What happens when an opponent (Tino Martinez) hits a grand slam in the World Series after he taken what-should've-been-called strike three (from Mark Langston) on the previous pitch? The misery index goes up. Way up.

San Francisco Giants -- Giants fans are quiet about their misery, but they too have suffered mightily, having never a won a World Series in San Francisco. Just like they didn't win in 2002 when they blew a 5-0 lead in the 7th inning of Game 6. Just like when you mention the name "Scott Spiezio" to Giants fans, they just stare at you in silence.

Seattle Mariners -- Teams which win a record 116 games are supposed to win the World Series. When you don't, when a rookie named Alfonso Soriano wins the crucial game of a playoff series with a 9th-inning home run off your Japanese closer, your gut cries out in pain like you've just eaten some bad sushi.

Tampa Bay Devil Rays -- March 29, 2004: General manager Chuck Lamar is given a two-year contract extension.

Texas Rangers -- Ahh, you're thinking of the time Lenny Randle punched out manager Frank Lucchesi, but that happened in 1977. So we're going with the trade that sent Alex Rodriguez to the Yankees and punched a big hole in the hearts of Rangers fans.

Toronto Blue Jays -- In one of the biggest collapses of all time, the Blue Jays lose their last seven games of 1987, including the final three to Detroit (all by one run) as the Tigers win the pennant with Frank Tanana's 1-0 shutout in the season's final game.

David Schoenfield is an editor for ESPN.com.
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Some interesting stuff here. Gotta wonder about what they chose for the Rangers when almost everyone out here seems much happier with the team after the trade, though.

Thanks goodness I was only three for the Astros moment. Lord know what I might have done if I had seen that...

MrBug708
04-13-2004, 11:28 PM
Scott Boras has screwed them over. A-Rod and Chan Ho

Eaglesfan27
04-13-2004, 11:30 PM
No thanks for these memories (http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=schoenfield/040407)

[i]By David Schoenfield
Page 2

No sport causes as much misery as baseball. As Satchel Paige once said, "You can look it up."

We give to you -- with much pleasure, actually, because it makes us all feel part of one happy, miserable baseball family -- the most misery-inducing moments for each team over the past 25 years.

Why 25 years? You got to forget about it after that long. Yes, Red Sox fans, even Bucky Bleepin' Dent.

Philadelphia Phillies -- Why the hell was Mitch Williams in the game?



So they could play that awesome closing music.

Nwobhm
04-13-2004, 11:39 PM
I thought rivera allowing the winning run in the bottom of the 9th vs arizona would have been a better choice for the yankees' pain

MrBug708
04-13-2004, 11:45 PM
I agree RE Yankees

mckerney
04-13-2004, 11:46 PM
All of baseball: The birth of Roger Clemens


In Clemens defense, he was a guy who always knew what team he belonged to:
http://www.digitalstar.com/mckerney/images/412514.JPG

MrBug708
04-13-2004, 11:52 PM
I think it was a WS at first. After that first one though, Clemens was on EBay alert. Good thing the Dodgers fired Kevin Malone, or the Rocket would be a Dodger.

klayman
04-14-2004, 12:27 AM
Chicago Cubs -- You kids may know only of Steve Bartman, but real Cubs fans know the pain of the ball rolling through the long legs of Leon Durham, Chicago's 3-0 lead over San Diego in Game 5 of the 1984 NLCS evaporating quicker than you can say "Let's play two."
Bah! They still would have got pasted by the Tigers in the WS. That would have hurt more.

Vince
04-14-2004, 12:35 AM
F*ck Scott Spezio.

MrBug708
04-14-2004, 12:36 AM
F*ck Scott Spezio.

Shouldn't it be Dusty Baker?

I mean 5-0 lead....

Ksyrup
04-14-2004, 07:22 AM
No thanks for these memories (http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=schoenfield/040407)

By David Schoenfield
Page 2

Philadelphia Phillies -- Why the hell was Mitch Williams in the game?



100+ years of pain and suffering, and this is the best he could come up with?! This is a team that has had decades of futility that rivaled what the Tigers suffered through in one year last year, and he picks this moment? Hell, I was tickled pink that that team had a winning record that year, let alone made it to the World Series. Sure, it sucked to lose in that fashion, but I felt like a Carolina Panther fan after it was over - just glad I wasn't staring at another 1-15 season and ahppy to have been there.

Why was he in the game - because he was the fucking closer, you moron! He pitched that way all year - you either trade his ass before the season starts, or you take the good with the bad - and most of it was good in 1993. I've always fucking hated Mitch Williams because he blew me off for an autograph when he was with the Cubs, but I didn't question his being in that game. I questioned his being on the team in the first place. But since he was there, he was the right choice.

Ksyrup
04-14-2004, 07:25 AM
Bah! They still would have got pasted by the Tigers in the WS. That would have hurt more.
True. The cool thing about it would have been all of the similarities between the 1945 WS and the 1984 WS. I don't remember all of them 20 years later, but there was a list as long as the Lincoln/Kennedy coincidences about that potential WS - the same two teams, Steve Trout was on the Cubs, his grandfather was on the Tigers in 1945, etc. There were a bunch, but that's all I can remember.

spleen1015
04-14-2004, 07:28 AM
While 1988 is a very bad time in the history of the Orioles, I view Peter Angelos becoming the owner of the franchise as the worst moment in Baltimore Orioles history.

RendeR
04-14-2004, 09:13 AM
I disagree with the Reds reference, Rose being a collosal fuckup is not a misery to reds fans or the team itself.


Having the best overall record in baseball the year the strike created two halves of a season, and NOT MAKING THE PLAYOFFS. yeah, that hurts......


Oh and to someone elses remarks..I watched every pitch of that Astro's Phillies game...Talk about agony, holy shit on a stick batman. It just crushed your nuts to watch that game slip away.

MikeVic
04-14-2004, 09:39 AM
I'm not old enough to have seen the Monday thing for the Expos... but if you're any bit of an Expos fan, you have to remember the strike season... their team was awesome that year. And then the strike happened, and the team got dismantled. :(

Huckleberry
04-14-2004, 09:58 AM
Ksyrup -

I find your theory on closers incredibly odd. You would rather have the guy they call the closer in the game than the best option for your team.

John Galt
04-14-2004, 10:03 AM
I thought rivera allowing the winning run in the bottom of the 9th vs arizona would have been a better choice for the yankees' pain

No way. It was painful, but we were pretty spoiled by then. The loss to the Mariners just hurt because after years of failures by George, we thought we were finally going to win in the postseason. After that game, I wasn't sure we weren't going to be stuck in the Tartabull years again.

John Galt
04-14-2004, 10:05 AM
Ksyrup -

I find your theory on closers incredibly odd. You would rather have the guy they call the closer in the game than the best option for your team.

Yeah. He has made that argument in a few different threads and it all revolves around a "closer mentality." 90% of baseball history did not have a "closer mentality" and I think it is time we stop letting a silly, meaningless statistic dictate strategy.

JeeberD
04-14-2004, 03:43 PM
100+ years of pain and suffering, and this is the best he could come up with?!


No thanks for these memories (http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=schoenfield/040407)

We give to you -- with much pleasure, actually, because it makes us all feel part of one happy, miserable baseball family -- the most misery-inducing moments for each team over the past 25 years.

Does that help answer your question? :)

Maple Leafs
04-14-2004, 04:12 PM
Toronto Blue Jays -- In one of the biggest collapses of all time, the Blue Jays lose their last seven games of 1987, including the final three to Detroit (all by one run) as the Tigers win the pennant with Frank Tanana's 1-0 shutout in the season's final game.Not a bad choice, although in reality the defining moment of the 1987 collapse was Tony Fernandez being taken out at second base at Exhibition Stadium, landing on a seam in the turf and breaking his wrist. It was pretty much season over right then, we just didn't know it yet.

Still, I'd make my Blue Jay moment Jim Sundberg's wind-aided bases loaded triple in the first ever ALCS Game Seven, in 1985.

Bad-example
04-14-2004, 04:37 PM
As far as the Dodgers' worst moment, I would vote for the day that 3/4 of the Dodgers invaded the stands and had a donnybrook with the fans. There were like 20 Dodger uniforms fighting paying customers...and they didn't even get the stolen hat back!

Also, didn't the LA fans throw souvenier baseballs onto the field in the 9th inning one game? I'd call that a low point.

Shkspr
04-14-2004, 04:46 PM
Couldn't have been LA fans. They're already out of the park by the 7th.

Gallifrey
04-14-2004, 05:07 PM
Baseball's worst moments? 1994 to the present. And Bonds moving up the home run list, getting stronger as the years go by. Amazing!

CraigSca
04-14-2004, 10:49 PM
As an O's fan, 1988 was pretty horrible. However, for me, the worst moment of the last 25 years was Jeffrey Maier. Kudos to you, young man - you suceeded in interfering with a ball in play and became a minor celebrity because of it.

Buccaneer
04-14-2004, 10:54 PM
Why 25 years? You got to forget about it after that long.Jerk. What is he, 19 years old?

DiG
04-14-2004, 11:02 PM
I'm not old enough to have seen the Monday thing for the Expos... but if you're any bit of an Expos fan, you have to remember the strike season... their team was awesome that year. And then the strike happened, and the team got dismantled. :(

I think that even Jeffrey Loria winning a title last year was worse than that loss in '81. Still doesn't beat '94 though...

Sharpieman
04-14-2004, 11:07 PM
Another one for Giants fans was the one game playoff against the Cubs. That was a gut wrencher.

MrBug708
04-14-2004, 11:16 PM
As far as the Dodgers' worst moment, I would vote for the day that 3/4 of the Dodgers invaded the stands and had a donnybrook with the fans. There were like 20 Dodger uniforms fighting paying customers...and they didn't even get the stolen hat back!

Also, didn't the LA fans throw souvenier baseballs onto the field in the 9th inning one game? I'd call that a low point.


I was going to make some corrections, til I Saw where you live.....

Sharpieman
04-14-2004, 11:30 PM
I think LA fans can remember Sept. 18, 1997 pretty clearly too:
"It was an epic game played between two historical foes in a situation that would help determine which club played in October and which went home. It was only fitting that the Giants-Dodgers tilt on the afternoon of Sept. 18, 1997, at Candlestick Park should provide a pair of memorable moments. After San Francisco won the first of a two-game series to draw within one game of front-running Los Angeles, the Giants and Dodgers went to extra innings tied at 5-5. While the game was later decided in the 12th inning, the contest could have been lost much sooner if not for the gutsy pitching of Rod Beck, who escaped a none-out, bases-loaded jam in the top of the 10th to preserve the 5-5 tie. After the first three hitters reached base, San Francisco's closer got Todd Zeile on a called third strike before inducing future Hall of Famer Eddie Murray to bounce into an inning-ending, 4-2-3 double play. Beck went on to toss three scoreless innings, bringing the Giants and Dodgers to the bottom of the 12th, still deadlocked at 5-5. Heading into the bottom of the 12th inning, Los Angeles turned to left-handed reliever Mark Guthrie, and Giants catcher Brian Johnson greeted him by homering on the first pitch of the frame, driving the game-winning blast into the left field bleachers to catapult the Giants into a first-place tie and send 52,140 fans into delirium." - From the Giants website. ;)
I was in the bleachers on that day.

k0ruptr
04-14-2004, 11:41 PM
someone needs to do a football version of this.

JeeberD
04-15-2004, 11:14 AM
someone needs to do a football version of this.

Dallas Cowboys

Either Jackie Smith's dropped TD in the Super Bowl against the Steelers or that motherfucker, "The Catch"...

KevinNU7
04-15-2004, 11:15 AM
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primelord
04-15-2004, 11:21 AM
Jerk. What is he, 19 years old?
I think his point was if it has been 25 years and you are still bitter about a moment for your team it is probably time to let it go.

mckerney
04-15-2004, 11:29 AM
Dallas Cowboys

Either Jackie Smith's dropped TD in the Super Bowl against the Steelers or that motherfucker, "The Catch"...

Though I'm sure all that made up for "The Push" :mad:

B & B
04-15-2004, 11:46 AM
Baseball's worst moments? 1994 to the present. And Bonds moving up the home run list, getting stronger as the years go by. Amazing!


My thoughts exactly.

Maple Leafs
04-15-2004, 12:31 PM
I think his point was if it has been 25 years and you are still bitter about a moment for your team it is probably time to let it go.Which is just wrong.

I think you only "let it go" when your team wins a championship. When that happens, all other painful memories become void.

If the Leafs don't win a Cup in my lifetime, I will take a burning hatred of Kerry Fraser to my grave.

klayman
04-15-2004, 01:36 PM
if? :D

Maple Leafs
04-15-2004, 01:46 PM
if? :D(Sobs)

JeeberD
04-15-2004, 11:56 PM
Though I'm sure all that made up for "The Push" :mad:

Ah, gotta love THE Hail Mary... :)

mckerney
04-16-2004, 12:09 AM
Ah, gotta love THE Hail Mary... :)

It must have taken a lot of praying by Staubach for that not to get called. :mad: :mad: :mad:

JeeberD
04-16-2004, 12:38 AM
Totally, completely clean... :)

mckerney
04-16-2004, 12:47 AM
Clean plays don't get refs hit with whiskey bottles.

JeeberD
04-16-2004, 12:54 AM
Do dirty plays cause the losing QB's dad to die of a heart attack?

Huckleberry
04-16-2004, 01:18 AM
First of all, stop blaming Drew Pearson for the fact that the Minnesota DB couldn't keep his footing. :D

More importantly, it's not like the Vikings would have actually won the Super Bowl.

SackAttack
04-16-2004, 01:19 AM
I dunno. I've seen a <i>lot</i> of Dodger baseball over the years, although I was just 4 years old for Jack Clark's HR.

What stands out most in my mind, though, is the 11-1 lead LA blew in the 9th inning against the Phillies during the early 90s.

Woof.

mckerney
04-16-2004, 01:20 AM
More importantly, it's not like the Vikings would have actually won the Super Bowl.



:mad: :mad: :mad: http://www.ootp5league.org/forums/html/emoticons/2up.gif :mad: :mad: :mad:

SackAttack
04-16-2004, 01:55 AM
(Sobs)

Would it help if I told you that my dad's from Montreal, and he considers the Maple Leafs to be the Chicago Cubs of the NHL?

No?

Ah, well, had to share. ;)

OldGiants
04-16-2004, 10:22 AM
No sport causes as much misery as baseball. As Satchel Paige once said, "You can look it up."
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Hard to be impressed by a writer who doesn't even know that it was Casey Stengel, not Paige, who made the words, "you can look it up" his catch phrase.