McDonalds Selling its Soul?

[Desnudo]

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040415/ap_on_he_me/mcdonald_s_health

A couple of thoughts:

1. For some reason this article made me think of that Simpsons episode where Itchy and Scratchy become nonviolent due to Marge protesting and everyone stops watching. "They love, they love. They love, and love and love."

2. The majority of people are really fat in America. This is because they like to eat too much fatty food, like McDonalds.

3. People who are health conscious have such a negative image of McDonalds, and usually chain restaurants in general, that there is no way McDonalds will ever draw them in.

4. McDonalds will end up appealing to no one and should go back to doing what they do well. Making cheeseburgers and fries.

[QuikSand]

McDonalds will end up appealing to no one and should go back to doing what they do well. Making cheeseburgers and fries.

They are going to sell plenty more cheeseburgers and fries than they are the healthy happy meals... but that doesn't mean it's a bad idea to try this kind of offering. It's not like they are shutting down the grills and canceling the Big Mac for this... it's just another option.

[Desnudo]

Screw that. I want the other option to be a triple quarterpounder with cheese.

[HornedFrog Purple]

Isn't it their McSoul?

[sabotai]

Doesn't effect me, I usually go to Wendy's.

[Suicane75]

I miss the MCDLT, I miss it with all of my fat heart.

[Fidatelo]

McDonalds has a soul?

[Drake]

McDonalds has a soul?

Exactly.

[condors]

bring back the mcrib for the health food nuts like me

[Samdari]

I miss the MCDLT, I miss it with all of my fat heart.

They essentially still have it, its just called the Big'n'Tasty, and of course, it's missing that genius two sided styrofoam box, and the catchy "hot side hot, cool side cool" commercials.

[corbes]

Check this movie out.




http://www.iofilm.co.uk/io/mit/0/publicity.php

Controversy Attracts at Sundance

To generate publicity for your documentary it doesn’t hurt to stick your neck - or stomach - out. At least, not too far...

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There’s nothing like controversy to get you in the public eye. Hacks gobble it up. We all gobble it up. Especially when it strikes close to home.

Filmmaker Morgan Spurlock has been serving it up with relish in his documentary Super Size Me at the Sundance Film Festival in Utah.

For the Michael Moore-ish (it even sounds like Moore’s book Downsize This) investigation into America’s obsession with fast-food he ate McDonalds, accepting super sizes if offered, for a whole month to see what it would do to him.

"Morgan Spurlock took the fasttrack to becoming an obese American," is one of the taglines you find on the fast-food themed website. And "Super Size Me: a film of epic portions."

In the film, Spurlock, who ignored his doctor’s advice against doing the month-long stunt, takes a medical examination before and after. Spurlock says he put on almost 30 pounds (although he has since lost it) and ended up with a liver so punished that it resembled an alcoholic’s.

It remains to be seen whether the film, which just premiered at Sundance this past Saturday will follow anything like the meteoric trajectory of Bowling For Columbine, but the signs are good.

The film has created great buzz - interest from across the media, television and radio interviews, advance seat sell-outs, queues for rush tickets.

A stream of glowing reviews and a great distribution deal would cap a rollicking Sundance festival.

But is it too controversial?

There doesn’t appear to have been much legal outcry from McDonald’s thus far - that may be because after recent debacles and lengthy legal battles with the likes of the McLibel Two, McDonald’s resembles an elephant running away from a mouse.

There is also the issue of whether the large distributors, whose mother companies have fingers in other pies, will be afraid to piss off a major advertiser. I haven’t seen the film so I can’t say just how far it goes. But when you see the culture-jamming modus operandi of the Super Size Me crew - for instance, the redrawing of the Ronald McDonald clown into a obese version of himself - you get a pretty good idea of what to expect.

After Michael Moore’s Bowling For Columbine became the biggest grossing documentary of all time, distributor interest will not be put off easily. Gimmick movies, which this is to some extent, can do surprisingly well and with McDonalds-bashing now an international pastime there is a ready market. In truth, Super Size Me doesn't sound too controversial for distributors, it has just the right kind of controversy that gets a little film oodles of free publicity.

[WSUCougar]

McDonalds has a soul?Not trying to stir it up, just honestly curious.

By this quote are you implying that McDonald's is some kind of wickedly evil corporate monster, or are you just saying that as a humorous counter to the thread title?

And if the former, can you please explain.

If the latter, HAR! ;)

[Suicane75]

They essentially still have it, its just called the Big'n'Tasty, and of course, it's missing that genius two sided styrofoam box, and the catchy "hot side hot, cool side cool" commercials.

Everywhere? I don't recall ever seeing anything called BignTasty on the menu, although i must admit I dont really pay attention. Does it comes all together? Cause the beauty of the MCDLT was in fact the hot side hot and the cool side cool.

[Suicane75]

Ive heard of that movie and the premise just seems so outlandish as to take any of it seriously. It's like making a movie about walking across a super highway with your eyes closed and seeing what happens.

[sterlingice]

Perhaps dude should get off his fat ass and go outside. There's no way you gain 30 pounds in a month with just supersizing stuff unless you sit in front of a camera and make documentaries the rest of the month. And if he is eating fast food every day for a month, he gets what he deserves, too...

SI

[Desnudo]

Not trying to stir it up, just honestly curious.

By this quote are you implying that McDonald's is some kind of wickedly evil corporate monster, or are you just saying that as a humorous counter to the thread title?

And if the former, can you please explain.

If the latter, HAR! ;)

You are trying to stir it up sir. No threadjacking in my threads. Save it for the WTO rally.

[Samdari]

the beauty of the MCDLT was in fact the hot side hot and the cool side cool.

You're screwed. McD's latest incarnation of the Whopper is indeed pre-built.

I always wondered how the accomplished the cool side cool thing while the double wide box was under the heat lamp?

[Miller Time]

I miss the arch deluxe. Those things were the greatest. I worked at McD's for a few years back in the day, you would be sick to your stomach if you saw them cleaning out the grease traps each night. That said, I understand the fast food craze, and I can't fault them for trying to clean up their image. Kitchen Fresh Chicken anyone?? ;)

[Desnudo]

Perhaps dude should get off his fat ass and go outside. There's no way you gain 30 pounds in a month with just supersizing stuff unless you sit in front of a camera and make documentaries the rest of the month. And if he is eating fast food every day for a month, he gets what he deserves, too...

SI

I could gain 30 pounds in a month drinking nothing but stuff you buy at GNC. Pointless. People with agendas...

I miss the McDLT too. I really did like the cold side. Keeping the lettuce cool was a stroke of genius.

[Suicane75]

You're screwed. McD's latest incarnation of the Whopper is indeed pre-built.

I always wondered how the accomplished the cool side cool thing while the double wide box was under the heat lamp?


They actually had a divider that kept the burger side under the heat thingy while the cool side was shielded from it.

[Franklinnoble]

I miss the McDLT and the Arch Deluxe, too... dammit, this thread is making me hungry for extinct hamburgers.

[MikeVic]

I don't know if it's just me and a couple of people I know, but McDonald's food actually makes me sick. My stomach hurts, and I have to go to the washroom for a few minutes...

I've had this experience from the Arch Deluxe, Big Mac, McChicken (although not as bad), and anything with cheese....

[Samdari]

They actually had a divider that kept the burger side under the heat thingy while the cool side was shielded from it.

LOL, not at the one in Auburn, NY.

[Samdari]

I miss the McDLT and the Arch Deluxe, too... dammit, this thread is making me hungry for extinct hamburgers.

Well, the Big'N'Tasty is the arch deluxe.

[judicial clerk]

don't worry about McDonalds. They are going to be just fine and they are going to keep pumping out plenty of junk food and bringing in plenty of cash. I think they are only doing this so that soccer moms will stop there with the minivan full of chubby little kids. The mom will get the mcSalad while the kids get the burgers and fries. I think this move is akin to Bush in black neighborhoods. He is not necessarily doing it to garner the black vote, he is doing it to garner the middle of the road,white, middle class voter.

[corbes]

I don't know if it's just me and a couple of people I know, but McDonald's food actually makes me sick. My stomach hurts, and I have to go to the washroom for a few minutes...

Same here, MikeVic.

[Miller Time]

Well, the Big'N'Tasty is the arch deluxe.

Are you sure about that? The arch deluxe had a distinct bun and if I recall correctly they didn't toast it. In Canada at least the Big N' Tasty is called the Big Extra and quite frankly it is nasty.

Ya, if I eat that stuff now it goes right through me. I would eat all the time when I worked their because I either got it half off or didn't pay for it at all (brings back the memories of sneaking downstairs during a shift to polish off a burger.....to be young again )
:)

[Desnudo]

don't worry about McDonalds. They are going to be just fine and they are going to keep pumping out plenty of junk food and bringing in plenty of cash. I think they are only doing this so that soccer moms will stop there with the minivan full of chubby little kids. The mom will get the mcSalad while the kids get the burgers and fries.

If the mom is buying the McSalad then why is she so tubby too?

[sachmo71]

It's amazing how much weight you can lose just by watching what you eat. I hope this trend continues. It's nice to have options when I want to go out for a fast lunch.

[clintl]

Making cheeseburgers is not something McDonald's does well.

[Rizon]

McDonalds has a soul?

Of course.

Sincerely,

1982

[Miller Time]

I have always wondered what the obsession with McDonalds in particular is. It is a good place to take the kids and it is usually fast. But the food quality has never been great, chances are you are going to get something that has been cooked at least a half hour ago or has been sitting there for quite some time. Especially if you go at night, there is an allnight drive through right by my place and every now and then we'll go through late at night for some food, I have come to expect my fries to be gross, and my chicken to be stale. They now toast the buns to order, but before that they were just as bad. When I worked there about ten years ago, we used to put the fully made burger in the microwave for 15 seconds or so to heat them up.

All I know is, for my dollar there are better places to get fast food. Wendy's isn't bad, neither is Harveys and there are a tonne of local places that are good too.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Are you sure about that? The arch deluxe had a distinct bun and if I recall correctly they didn't toast it.
Y'know, now that you mention it, I remember that one -- it had a sort of funky humpbacked faux roll sort of bun.

[JonInMiddleGA]

I have always wondered what the obsession with McDonalds in particular is. Among other things, I'd say it stems from:
1) The best french fries (when fresh) in the history of potatoes.
2) The highest-dollar ad campaign for kids meal toys of any fast-food franchise.
3) The most recognizable logo in the fast-food biz.
4) They are freakin' everywhere. You might have to search for an Arby's or something, but there's a McD's at every other exit (or traffic light).

[Desnudo]

I have always wondered what the obsession with McDonalds in particular is. It is a good place to take the kids and it is usually fast. But the food quality has never been great, chances are you are going to get something that has been cooked at least a half hour ago or has been sitting there for quite some time. Especially if you go at night, there is an allnight drive through right by my place and every now and then we'll go through late at night for some food, I have come to expect my fries to be gross, and my chicken to be stale. They now toast the buns to order, but before that they were just as bad. When I worked there about ten years ago, we used to put the fully made burger in the microwave for 15 seconds or so to heat them up.

All I know is, for my dollar there are better places to get fast food. Wendy's isn't bad, neither is Harveys and there are a tonne of local places that are good too.

I don't know how old you are, but during the 80s fast food was McDonald's, Burger King, or a local pizza chain called Papa Gino's where I lived. I think there might have been one Wendy's in all of Massachusetts at the time. For the longest time Burger King had awful french fries. I don't know why they couldn't make good ones, but they were just soggy and disgusting with no salt. So you always went to McDonald's. Except for my dad who liked the Whaler.

Of course now you have tons better options. For example, almost every medium sized town has at least one gourmet quality sandwich shop that is far better tasting than fast food.

[andy m]

mcdonalds puts mind control substances in their food. the government pays them to do this.

[Chubby]

LOL, not at the one in Auburn, NY.

That's because it's Auburn...

I try and stay as far away from Auburn as humanely possible, and Fulton...

[GrantDawg]

Among other things, I'd say it stems from:
1) The best french fries (when fresh) in the history of potatoes.
2) The highest-dollar ad campaign for kids meal toys of any fast-food franchise.
3) The most recognizable logo in the fast-food biz.
4) They are freakin' everywhere. You might have to search for an Arby's or something, but there's a McD's at every other exit (or traffic light).One opening on Salem road tomorrow, with another opening 5 miles from it in about two months.

[Fidatelo]

Not trying to stir it up, just honestly curious.

By this quote are you implying that McDonald's is some kind of wickedly evil corporate monster, or are you just saying that as a humorous counter to the thread title?

And if the former, can you please explain.

If the latter, HAR! ;)

Just trying to be funny. :)

[Fidatelo]

I don't know if it's just me and a couple of people I know, but McDonald's food actually makes me sick. My stomach hurts, and I have to go to the washroom for a few minutes...

I've had this experience from the Arch Deluxe, Big Mac, McChicken (although not as bad), and anything with cheese....

I've never met anyone who has had anything but this experience. It is just part and parcel with the experience. And yet we all keep going back...

[Leonidas]

So is the idea of Mickey D's selling its soul by selling healthy foods kind of like Satan selling his soul to the Pope or am I just reading too much into this?

[ahbrady]

When I went to Boston a few years back, they had something like a McLobster sandwich. Has anyone actually gotten the nerve to try one of those?

[Craptacular]

McDonalds is pure evil. Too bad they get kids hooked early, before they realize that Wendy's, Burger King, Arbys, etc. all have better tasting food.

[sterlingice]

When I went to Boston a few years back, they had something like a McLobster sandwich. Has anyone actually gotten the nerve to try one of those?
Mc... Lobster?!? That's just plain creepy. Some kind of war crime against nature or something.

SI

[cuervo72]

Among other things, I'd say it stems from:
1) The best french fries (when fresh) in the history of potatoes.


I'll take Arby's curly fries instead. Or Burger King's, for that matter. Of course, I worked at BK in HS. My favorite was to take some of the chicken tenders (often the ones that had just gotten too old to sell, but were still good) and dip 'em in mayonnaise. MMMMMM boy!

Most of the time at Mickey D's I'll get the Big N' Tasty, which was indeed the Big Xtra (when McDonald's was trying to appeal to a market besides kids and teens with more "adult" sandwiches). I don't believe they toast anything on it...and the kids? They're lucky if they eat 4 bites of a hamburger and a few fries. I end up eating the rest, either after mine or in work the next day.

[Desnudo]

You always knew summer had arrived when the McLobster ads started running. For the record, I think they always advertised 100% lobster meat.

[cuervo72]

McDonalds is pure evil. Too bad they get kids hooked early, before they realize that Wendy's, Burger King, Arbys, etc. all have better tasting food.

My son knows all the local fast food chains (and actually prefers the local diner).

[General Mike]

They essentially still have it, its just called the Big'n'Tasty, and of course, it's missing that genius two sided styrofoam box, and the catchy "hot side hot, cool side cool" commercials.

The Big'n'Tasty, or as I call it, Small'n'Nasty, has nothing on the McDLT.

As far as fast food goes, I really wish we had Sonic up north, because it blows McDonald's/Burger King/Wendy's et al. out of the water. As far as the other big chains, I think they each have their things that they do well. I personally prefer, BK fries to McDonalds or Wendy's, even tho the other 2 can put out quality fries when you get them fresh out of the fryer. Arby's curly fries are in a class by themselves.I can't say I care for McDonald's burgers particularly at this point, but their chicken salads are pretty good, and the McFlurry is phenomenal. Burger King obviously has the King of Burgers in the Whopper, plus quality special menu items like the Chicken Club whatchamacalit. Wendy's has the Big Bacon Classic, which is to me, the closest thing to the Whopper. Then you have the other places which aren't traditional fast food like Panera and Au Bon Pain. That's what I'm talkin' 'bout.

[Bosco]

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/biondino/McLobster.jpg

[JeeberD]

McDonald's sucks ass. Why anyone goes there I'll never know...

[Desnudo]

Have you considered that it could be you that sucks ass and McDonald's that is great? Which is why everyone goes. Of course you'll never know for sure that your whole life might have been a lie.

[JeeberD]

No, I've been to McDonald's and been forced to eat their food. I've also eaten at Burger King and Wendy's and thoroughly enjoyed my visits.

McDonald's food tastes like crap. The only reason they get so many customers is because of marketing...

[Butter]

McDonald's fries are the best fries in the history of fry-making. Of course, they may add chopped up little kids to the grease to make them taste that way, but what I don't know won't hurt me.

[rkmsuf]

Can't beat the all white meat nuggetts

[GrantDawg]

Went to the new McD's this morning. It is going to have 24 hour drive-thru service. If you knew what this area was like 23 years ago when my family moved here, you'd know how weird that is.

Back then there was a yellow blinking light and a gas station falling in on itself at that corner and we had to drive 20 miles to buy groceries. Now there is a Publics strip center, two gas stations, a McD's, and according to last weeks paper, a plan to build a Walmart Supercenter there. This is definitely not the "woods" any longer.

[WSUCougar]

IMO, one positive aspect of McDonald's is consistency, once you've found a "good" franchise. Admittedly, the bad ones are wretched, but I know if I go to a good McD's franchise I will get great fries and a burger that tastes the same pretty much every time (unlike Wendy's or BK, for example, where you seemingly roll the damn dice every time). Usually at a good franchise, they are fast - their system is working - where as at other places (and Taco Bell is horrid this way) the wait can be simply brutal.

[Samdari]

That's because it's Auburn...

I try and stay as far away from Auburn as humanely possible, and Fulton...

I lived in Weedsport. For McDonald's then, it was Auburn or a 45 minute drive each way. Driving 45 minutes each way for McD's sort of defeats the purpose, no?

[JonInMiddleGA]

... and according to last weeks paper, a plan to build a Walmart Supercenter there.
And according to this week's paper (covnews.com), Home Depot is now looking to build near the proposed WM Supercenter (Corner of 142 & 20
I believe).

[GrantDawg]

And according to this week's paper (covnews.com), Home Depot is now looking to build near the proposed WM Supercenter (Corner of 142 & 20
I believe).
Yup. That Supercenter will be built first, with this one being the second in the county. When we moved here, there was just a K-mart, and a really crappy one at that!

[JonInMiddleGA]

As far as fast food goes, I really wish we had Sonic up north, because it blows McDonald's/Burger King/Wendy's et al. out of the water.
Blech, BK fries still suck AFAIC. I can't help but wonder if there might be regional differences in things like fries & such, stuff that different beyond regional menu items (like the frightening aforementioned McLobster)?

I know that Hardee's burgers used to vary from one location to the next, depending upon whether the store was a franchisee or a corporate owned unit. No idea whether anyone else has major differences like that.

Meanwhile, you're definitely correct about Sonic, they flat-out rock. I don't think I've ever gotten around to their hamburgers, I can't get past the country fried steak sandwich and now the breakfast toaster sandwiches. Breakfast ... it's not just for breakfast anymore :)

[Subby]

As long as their are poor people, there will be a McDonalds...

[Desnudo]

Blech, BK fries still suck AFAIC. I can't help but wonder if there might be regional differences in things like fries & such, stuff that different beyond regional menu items (like the frightening aforementioned McLobster)?

I know that Hardee's burgers used to vary from one location to the next, depending upon whether the store was a franchisee or a corporate owned unit. No idea whether anyone else has major differences like that.

Meanwhile, you're definitely correct about Sonic, they flat-out rock. I don't think I've ever gotten around to their hamburgers, I can't get past the country fried steak sandwich and now the breakfast toaster sandwiches. Breakfast ... it's not just for breakfast anymore :)

Don't knock the McLobster until you try it. I think my personal favorite were Rallys.

[Philliesfan980]

Don't knock the McLobster until you try it. I think my personal favorite were Rallys.


McLobster? I've heard of that product before, however it never made it out of the Massachusetts area (thats where it started right?). Was it expensive? And if it wasn't, what kind of crap meat did they use?

[ahbrady]

McLobster? I've heard of that product before, however it never made it out of the Massachusetts area (thats where it started right?). Was it expensive? And if it wasn't, what kind of crap meat did they use?

That's exactly what I meant. I would not feel comfortable eating cheap lobster meat. I'm the same way with a hotel. I want to find a good price, but too cheap scares me off.

[Franklinnoble]

That's exactly what I meant. I would not feel comfortable eating cheap lobster meat. I'm the same way with a hotel. I want to find a good price, but too cheap scares me off.
I prefer to rent my motel rooms by the hour.

[Desnudo]

McLobster? I've heard of that product before, however it never made it out of the Massachusetts area (thats where it started right?). Was it expensive? And if it wasn't, what kind of crap meat did they use?

100% lobster meat. It cost about as much as a lobster sandwich at a clam shack. Lobster really isn't that expensive in New England. It's like buying salmon in Seattle. Which is probably why they only sold it there.

[cartman]

I have always wondered what the obsession with McDonalds in particular is.

All I know is, for my dollar there are better places to get fast food. Wendy's isn't bad, neither is Harveys and there are a tonne of local places that are good too.

McDonald's sucks ass. Why anyone goes there I'll never know...

The thing about McDonalds, it consistency. It's consistently exactly the same, no matter where you go. If you are somewhere outside of your normal area, you can go to Mickey Ds and know exactly what you are getting. I never realized this until I stopped by a McDonalds in Italy. The Chicken McNuggets were EXACTLY the same as the ones in the US. Even the BBQ Sauce was the same.

So it's not that people go for the quality, they go because they are know what to expect. Harvey's might be a fine place to eat, Miller Time, but if I've never heard of it, and it's off the beaten path, chances are if I'm passing through the town, I'm doing a quick stop off at the Golden Arches.

[Leonidas]

When I lived in Hawaii I noticed McD's had a Spam McMuffin. Spam is stunningly popular in Hawaii. Some kind of holdover from WWII I am told. They even put Spam on pizza in Hawaii.

[JeeberD]

The McDonald's in Germany serve beer. That would be their one redeeming feature...

[Desnudo]

The McDonald's in Germany serve beer. That would be their one redeeming feature...

I was driving through Germany once and we were looking for a place to eat. We were in the countryside on the Autobahn and it was hard to find anything that looked like a restaurant until we saw a McDonald's at an off-ramp. We go in and everyone working there is dressed in quasi-American Western gear. The girls working the registers all have miniature cowboy hats hanging off their back on a string. The special of the month is "Der Western Mac." We get the tray and the sheet on it has an "Oregon Trail" maze game with a brief history of the American migration west, written in German.

[RendeR]

McDonalds is pure evil. Too bad they get kids hooked early, before they realize that Wendy's, Burger King, Arbys, etc. all have better tasting food.



I'm sorry, but to argue that burger king has better food than anything beyond the dumpster is going entirely too far. The only two things I will eat from BK is a double whopper with cheese or the bacon double cheeseburger, and even in those cases the burger tastes like cardboard with smoke flavor added.

McDonalds food isn't great, but flavor wise it is 1000% better than BK. I do love arby's curly fries, and I agree with others that any fast food joint even attempting to use lobster should be summarily burned to the ground.

[JeeberD]

Lay off the crack. BK's burgers are so much better that McDonald's that it's not even funny...

[Buccaneer]

2. The majority of people are really fat in America. This is because they like to eat too much fatty food, like McDonalds.

Not according to the Dems and Time (or was it Newsweek) that complains about all of the starving, poor children here in America. Aren't many children in the lower socio-economic classes overweight instead? There are too many undernourished children here (and throughout the world, as there always will be) but instead of complaining about fast food joints out there (that no one forces anyone to go to), shouldn't the emphasis be on the lack of attention and committment from the family and those around them?

As far as McD, I stopped going for a while. If anyone wants to lose weight, lower chloesterol, lower BP, stay away from fast food. If you don't need to, fast food (esp. McD) has always been a viable option.

[sterlingice]

As far as McD, I stopped going for a while. If anyone wants to lose weight, lower chloesterol, lower BP, stay away from fast food. If you don't need to, fast food (esp. McD) has always been a viable option.
If I have a choice, fast food is down on the lower rungs of what I want to eat. When it comes right down to it, it's not that great of a deal for my money. As a college student, I have neither in abundance, but I have slightly more time than money so I watch the food ads like a hawk and don't mind cooking for myself. I can spend $5 and get a value meal (minus the drink) or I can wait for a sale and get a 16 oz T-Bone steak and a much larger bag of fries for $2 more. Well, I can dream anyways, but I can get a lesser cut of meat (shoulder steak or something) and the fries and still get back 50c in change.

SI

[Dutch]

I remember my first Wendy's double classic when I got back from overseas...

Heaven on Earth...but you get used to the taste quickly and it's just a normal hamburger again after the first 10 or so that you eat. :)