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Three injuries, one match. Two of my forwards, including Jerome. BS. I quit.
JeeberD
04-20-2004, 12:52 AM
For a second there I thought that I was being pinged, and I was wondering why in the hell you were doing it here. But then I realized that you were just swearing. Silly Hattie players...
fantastic flying froggies
04-20-2004, 03:37 AM
For a second there I thought that I was being pinged, and I was wondering why in the hell you were doing it here. But then I realized that you were just swearing. Silly Hattie players...
what are you doing here anyway ?
JeeberD
04-20-2004, 05:13 PM
I was bored. Wondered if there was anything worth reading over here.
There wasn't... ;) :D
lytic
04-20-2004, 05:27 PM
you're fired!
JeeberD
04-21-2004, 12:37 AM
:eek:
I've never been fired before... :(
You've never played HT either, correct? Give it a try. :)
JeeberD
04-21-2004, 05:59 PM
I signed up for a team probably a year, year-and-a-half ago. I fiddled around with it for about a week, but I was totally and completely lost. That's the extent of my Hattie experience...
I signed up for a team probably a year, year-and-a-half ago. I fiddled around with it for about a week, but I was totally and completely lost. That's the extent of my Hattie experience...
Crapt. We lost you?
Vince
04-21-2004, 06:18 PM
Year, year-and-a-half ago, we weren't nearly this strong...you should try again :)
lytic
04-21-2004, 07:00 PM
then I can unfire you.
JeeberD
04-21-2004, 08:13 PM
Maybe I'll give it another shot.
Just maybe...
Havok
04-21-2004, 08:29 PM
Maybe I'll give it another shot.
Just maybe...
Resistance is Futile...... You will be assimilated
Masked
04-21-2004, 08:53 PM
Maybe I'll give it another shot.
Just maybe... Wow, the post rate on this board would triple...http://dynamic2.gamespy.com/%7Efof/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif
JeeberD
04-21-2004, 08:54 PM
Wow, the post rate on this board would triple...http://dynamic2.gamespy.com/%7Efof/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif
Hey!!!
You're probably right... :(
JeeberD
04-22-2004, 01:24 AM
DOla-
I hate all of you bastards!
I signed up for a team tonight... :(
fantastic flying froggies
04-22-2004, 02:30 AM
[Vader voice]
AH AH AH ! WE HAVE YOU NOW !
[/Vader voice]
lytic
04-22-2004, 07:14 AM
So post the team name... :p
You are unfired!
JeeberD
04-22-2004, 12:24 PM
I don't officially have the team as of yet, but the team's name will be the Lewisville Lakers. I don't really now the rules of how to properly name a soccer team... ;)
FrogMan
04-22-2004, 12:27 PM
I don't officially have the team as of yet, but the team's name will be the Lewisville Lakers. I don't really now the rules of how to properly name a soccer team... ;)
with the many weird names we see around here, there's no rules, really ;)
Hey, welcome aboard, I'm sure you'll find plenty of people to help you out around here :)
FM
mckerney
04-22-2004, 02:31 PM
I don't officially have the team as of yet, but the team's name will be the Lewisville Lakers. I don't really now the rules of how to properly name a soccer team... ;)
Congratulations. You've taken your first step into a larger world...
Havok
04-22-2004, 07:02 PM
My best advice Jeeber is..... "ASK QUESTIONS!!!"
If you don't know somthing.... ask!
If you wanna buy a guy but not sure how much he's worth.... ask!
Etc... etc...
So many new HT'ers screw up they're team when they first get it..... but the new guys around here that ask questions and don't get transfer market happy usually build a solid team very fast.
Good luck!!!
TargetPractice6
04-22-2004, 07:33 PM
Just don't train passing in your first two weeks like I did.
lytic
04-22-2004, 07:38 PM
read the entire FOFC FAQ.... (yeah right)
JeeberD
04-25-2004, 10:58 PM
My best advice Jeeber is..... "ASK QUESTIONS!!!"
If you don't know somthing.... ask!
OK, so I got my team. What now? I tried to go through the FAQ a couple of days ago but didn't get very far. I guess the first thing I should do is try again, eh?
This sure sounds like it's gonna be more work than fun... ;)
Mr. Wednesday
04-25-2004, 11:01 PM
Read this thread: http://dynamic2.gamespy.com/~fof/forums/showthread.php?t=20213
It was a bunch of advice for OldGiants, who I think got off to a pretty good start.
DukeRulesMAB
04-25-2004, 11:26 PM
Jeeber, I'd do a copy and paste of your players page. People can chime in with who's worth keeping, who should be fired, and what you should pick up in your early days.
JeeberD
04-26-2004, 02:02 AM
Here's my roster...
» Players CHPP
Your 18 players
Benjamin Muniz
212 000 US$, 23 years, inadequate form
Has poor experience and passable leadership abilities
Stamina: weak Keeper: wretched
Playmaking: inadequate Passing: solid
Winger: poor Defending: inadequate
Scoring: solid Set Pieces: inadequate
Bing Poh-Fah
6 000 US$, 20 years, wretched form
Has disastrous experience and weak leadership abilities [Quick]
Stamina: passable Keeper: disastrous
Playmaking: poor Passing: weak
Winger: poor Defending: poor
Scoring: weak Set Pieces: wretched
Carl Lemon
169 000 US$, 21 years, inadequate form
Has wretched experience and weak leadership abilities
Stamina: inadequate Keeper: wretched
Playmaking: passable Passing: inadequate
Winger: weak Defending: inadequate
Scoring: passable Set Pieces: passable
Clement Saylor
127 000 US$, 24 years, inadequate form
Has wretched experience and passable leadership abilities
Stamina: disastrous Keeper: inadequate
Playmaking: wretched Passing: wretched
Winger: disastrous Defending: wretched
Scoring: disastrous Set Pieces: passable
Collin Simpson
0 US$, 42 years, weak form
Has passable experience and weak leadership abilities
Stamina: disastrous Keeper: disastrous
Playmaking: wretched Passing: wretched
Winger: disastrous Defending: wretched
Scoring: disastrous Set Pieces: disastrous
Darnell Tanner
112 000 US$, 29 years, inadequate form
Has wretched experience and weak leadership abilities [Technical]
Stamina: weak Keeper: wretched
Playmaking: weak Passing: passable
Winger: weak Defending: passable
Scoring: passable Set Pieces: inadequate
Duane Meade
24 000 US$, 23 years, inadequate form
Has wretched experience and wretched leadership abilities
Stamina: weak Keeper: disastrous
Playmaking: poor Passing: wretched
Winger: poor Defending: passable
Scoring: weak Set Pieces: disastrous
Hud Stephens
56 000 US$, 20 years, weak form
Has disastrous experience and disastrous leadership abilities [Head]
Stamina: weak Keeper: wretched
Playmaking: weak Passing: passable
Winger: inadequate Defending: poor
Scoring: inadequate Set Pieces: wretched
Jacob Peoples
22 000 US$, 22 years, weak form
Has disastrous experience and weak leadership abilities [Unpredictable]
Stamina: weak Keeper: disastrous
Playmaking: weak Passing: inadequate
Winger: inadequate Defending: inadequate
Scoring: disastrous Set Pieces: wretched
Jamie Conroy
12 000 US$, 28 years, wretched form
Has weak experience and inadequate leadership abilities [Head]
Stamina: weak Keeper: disastrous
Playmaking: inadequate Passing: weak
Winger: inadequate Defending: disastrous
Scoring: poor Set Pieces: inadequate
Jamison Melton
1 000 US$, 22 years, weak form
Has disastrous experience and wretched leadership abilities [Head]
Stamina: passable Keeper: disastrous
Playmaking: wretched Passing: wretched
Winger: disastrous Defending: weak
Scoring: wretched Set Pieces: solid
Kelley Mclendon
4 000 US$, 30 years, poor form
Has weak experience and inadequate leadership abilities [Quick]
Stamina: weak Keeper: wretched
Playmaking: weak Passing: weak
Winger: poor Defending: weak
Scoring: poor Set Pieces: disastrous
Ken Mcallister
43 000 US$, 24 years, weak form
Has disastrous experience and weak leadership abilities [Quick]
Stamina: wretched Keeper: disastrous
Playmaking: inadequate Passing: passable
Winger: inadequate Defending: poor
Scoring: inadequate Set Pieces: passable
Kurtis Davis
38 000 US$, 25 years, poor form
Has poor experience and passable leadership abilities
Stamina: poor Keeper: disastrous
Playmaking: inadequate Passing: wretched
Winger: weak Defending: disastrous
Scoring: solid Set Pieces: weak
Lee Anderson
17 000 US$, 28 years, wretched form
Has poor experience and poor leadership abilities
Stamina: wretched Keeper: wretched
Playmaking: passable Passing: passable
Winger: poor Defending: poor
Scoring: wretched Set Pieces: inadequate
Raymond Orourke
57 000 US$, 29 years, inadequate form
Has weak experience and weak leadership abilities [Powerful]
Stamina: poor Keeper: disastrous
Playmaking: weak Passing: passable
Winger: wretched Defending: solid
Scoring: weak Set Pieces: wretched
Ronald Latham
39 000 US$, 24 years, inadequate form
Has poor experience and weak leadership abilities [Head]
Stamina: passable Keeper: disastrous
Playmaking: wretched Passing: inadequate
Winger: passable Defending: wretched
Scoring: inadequate Set Pieces: inadequate
Sol Crowley
21 000 US$, 25 years, wretched form
Has poor experience and poor leadership abilities
Stamina: poor Keeper: disastrous
Playmaking: poor Passing: poor
Winger: inadequate Defending: passable
Scoring: inadequate Set Pieces: wretched
BishopMVP
04-26-2004, 03:39 AM
[/b]Benjamin Muniz
212 000 US$, 23 years, inadequate form
Has poor experience and passable leadership abilities
Stamina: weak Keeper: wretched
Playmaking: inadequate Passing: solid
Winger: poor Defending: inadequate
Scoring: solid Set Pieces: inadequate
Great forward to start out with.
Bing Poh-Fah
6 000 US$, 20 years, wretched form
Has disastrous experience and weak leadership abilities [Quick]
Stamina: passable Keeper: disastrous
Playmaking: poor Passing: weak
Winger: poor Defending: poor
Scoring: weak Set Pieces: wretched
Utter crap. Completely useles in every aspect of the game. Fire him. Too bad, because he has a nice name.
Carl Lemon
169 000 US$, 21 years, inadequate form
Has wretched experience and weak leadership abilities
Stamina: inadequate Keeper: wretched
Playmaking: passable Passing: inadequate
Winger: weak Defending: inadequate
Scoring: passable Set Pieces: passable
Good all-around player. Can fill in at forward, defense or midfield. Best bet is give him a week or two of stamina training and he'll be a decent Inner Midfielder
Clement Saylor
127 000 US$, 24 years, inadequate form
Has wretched experience and passable leadership abilities
Stamina: disastrous Keeper: inadequate
Playmaking: wretched Passing: wretched
Winger: disastrous Defending: wretched
Scoring: disastrous Set Pieces: passable
Not too bad as a goalie. You'll probably want a passable, but this guy is a high enough inadequate it might be worth waiting.
Collin Simpson
0 US$, 42 years, weak form
Has passable experience and weak leadership abilities
Stamina: disastrous Keeper: disastrous
Playmaking: wretched Passing: wretched
Winger: disastrous Defending: wretched
Scoring: disastrous Set Pieces: disastrous
Your coach. Weak Leadership isn't bad, but the thing that really matters is coaching skill. If he's anything less than passable (ie, not passable, solid or excellent), you'll probably want to fire him and buy a Passable/Poor for fairly cheap
Darnell Tanner
112 000 US$, 29 years, inadequate form
Has wretched experience and weak leadership abilities [Technical]
Stamina: weak Keeper: wretched
Playmaking: weak Passing: passable
Winger: weak Defending: passable
Scoring: passable Set Pieces: inadequate
[b]Another player who could play defense or forward.[/b]
Duane Meade
24 000 US$, 23 years, inadequate form
Has wretched experience and wretched leadership abilities
Stamina: weak Keeper: disastrous
Playmaking: poor Passing: wretched
Winger: poor Defending: passable
Scoring: weak Set Pieces: disastrous
[b]Decent defender[/b]
Hud Stephens
56 000 US$, 20 years, weak form
Has disastrous experience and disastrous leadership abilities [Head]
Stamina: weak Keeper: wretched
Playmaking: weak Passing: passable
Winger: inadequate Defending: poor
Scoring: inadequate Set Pieces: wretched
[b]Will be a decent backup at forward and winger for you early on. Unfortunately he'll probably be starting.[/b]
Jacob Peoples
22 000 US$, 22 years, weak form
Has disastrous experience and weak leadership abilities [Unpredictable]
Stamina: weak Keeper: disastrous
Playmaking: weak Passing: inadequate
Winger: inadequate Defending: inadequate
Scoring: disastrous Set Pieces: wretched
[b]Possible backup at Winger/Wingback. You won't want him around for long, but he'll be a little useful early on.[/b]
Jamie Conroy
12 000 US$, 28 years, wretched form
Has weak experience and inadequate leadership abilities [Head]
Stamina: weak Keeper: disastrous
Playmaking: inadequate Passing: weak
Winger: inadequate Defending: disastrous
Scoring: poor Set Pieces: inadequate
[b]Maybe a backup Towards Middle winger after some stamina training.[/b]
Jamison Melton
1 000 US$, 22 years, weak form
Has disastrous experience and wretched leadership abilities [Head]
Stamina: passable Keeper: disastrous
Playmaking: wretched Passing: wretched
Winger: disastrous Defending: weak
Scoring: wretched Set Pieces: solid
[b]Oooohhhh! A solid! Too bad it's in Set Pieces. Crap, fire him.[/b]
Kelley Mclendon
4 000 US$, 30 years, poor form
Has weak experience and inadequate leadership abilities [Quick]
Stamina: weak Keeper: wretched
Playmaking: weak Passing: weak
Winger: poor Defending: weak
Scoring: poor Set Pieces: disastrous
[b]Crap. Fire him (although we might be forced to hold onto him until you can buy a player or two.)[/b]
Ken Mcallister
43 000 US$, 24 years, weak form
Has disastrous experience and weak leadership abilities [Quick]
Stamina: wretched Keeper: disastrous
Playmaking: inadequate Passing: passable
Winger: inadequate Defending: poor
Scoring: inadequate Set Pieces: passable
[b]Best suited to play Winger, but Forward and Inner Mid are possibilities, although the latter is probably ruled out because he would need too much stamina training[/b]
Kurtis Davis
38 000 US$, 25 years, poor form
Has poor experience and passable leadership abilities
Stamina: poor Keeper: disastrous
Playmaking: inadequate Passing: wretched
Winger: weak Defending: disastrous
Scoring: solid Set Pieces: weak
[b]Solid forward. You'll be putting up some decent offensive ratings.[/b]
Lee Anderson
17 000 US$, 28 years, wretched form
Has poor experience and poor leadership abilities
Stamina: wretched Keeper: wretched
Playmaking: passable Passing: passable
Winger: poor Defending: poor
Scoring: wretched Set Pieces: inadequate
[b]Would be a useful Inner Mid, but his wretched stamina kills it and he's too old to be a project for a couple seasons.[/b]
Raymond Orourke
57 000 US$, 29 years, inadequate form
Has weak experience and weak leadership abilities [Powerful]
Stamina: poor Keeper: disastrous
Playmaking: weak Passing: passable
Winger: wretched Defending: solid
Scoring: weak Set Pieces: wretched
[b]Nice defenseman.[/b]
Ronald Latham
39 000 US$, 24 years, inadequate form
Has poor experience and weak leadership abilities [Head]
Stamina: passable Keeper: disastrous
Playmaking: wretched Passing: inadequate
Winger: passable Defending: wretched
Scoring: inadequate Set Pieces: inadequate
[b]Decent Winger[/b]
Sol Crowley
21 000 US$, 25 years, wretched form
Has poor experience and poor leadership abilities
Stamina: poor Keeper: disastrous
Playmaking: poor Passing: poor
Winger: inadequate Defending: passable
Scoring: inadequate Set Pieces: wretched
[b]Decent Wingback[/b]That leaves us with a possible lineup of:
GK: Clement Saylor
WB: Sol Crowley, Duane Moore (played Defensively)
CD: Raymond Orourke
IM: Carl Lemon, Lee Anderson (played Offensively)
W: Ronald Latham, Hud Stephens (Both played Offensively)
F: Kurtis Davis, Darnell Tanner, Benjamin Muniz
With Jamie Conroy backing up IM, Jacob People backing up Winger, and Ken McAlister backing up the Forward spot.
This is just for the immediate juncture. I recommend stamina training for 2 weeks, which will turn Lemon into a good IM and help Anderson and McAllister turn into potential backups. The 3-4-3 with only 2 IM's is a horrible formation to run long-term. You'll want to buy 2 decent Inner Midfielders (I recommend Passable Playmaking skill, at least Inadequate Stamina if you buy them before your 2 weeks of training stamina or Solid+ Stamina if you wait until after.) I'd suggest pumping $20,000 a week into your YS (Won't become very profitable for at least a season, and even then will depend on luck) and then pulling GK's until you pull one that is at least Passable. Usually I'd say don't even bother pulling until your up to around Weak YS, but you need a backup keeper so desperately that even a Poor would actually help your team by providing a little depth. If your coach isn't at least Passable, you'll want to buy one. Most importantly, determine what you want to train and in the next two weeks, while you are training stamina, buy trainees (17/18, possibly 19 if they are higher-level) for that position (getting secondaries now will cost you more but will significantly benefit you down the road), get your passable coach, hire some assistant coaches (either assistant or Goalkeeping depending on what you pick to train.) Winger and Goalkeeping training are the easiest/quickest early on, but GK long-term will hurt you profit-wise. You already have 3 decent forwards, and none are real young, so I'd avoid that area. Playmaking training is a possibility, especially since you already need to buy some players there, and Lemon is trainable. If you go this route, try buying your trainees before you do stamina training, because players with anything lower than passable stamina will be cheap, and they can get bumped up to passable/solid Stamina quickly. Don't ever consider training defense.
I'm sure others have something to share and can expand on this/disagree with some of what I said, and if you have questions on any of what I said, just ask. Another thing to do is READ THE RULES. Aside from asking questions here, that is where you'll learn the most about the game.
sterlingice
04-26-2004, 03:46 AM
Unfortunately, this isn't quite up to my normal standards as I had to rush through it, but it's a good place to start. You have $300K (really, $500K including debt) to play with and how you spend it will go a long way towards determining how good your team will be. The first thing you have to realize about hattrick is that day to day operations won't make you any money. I'm in Div IV, but I make under $200K every two week cycle from things like crowds and sponsors once expenses are taken out. However, I've sold some players for $2M plus and that's how you really build your team.
A minor rule of thumb: get starters who are passable or higher in their primary skills. A second, if you are buying players, try to get them as young as possible, at least under 25 with these guys you're getting. You don't want a guy you'll just have to replace next season.
GK: Saylor
He's going to be gone as soon as you can afford a good passable or solid keeper but he's what you have for now. He'll be a serviceable backup once you upgrade.
WD: Crowley
Crowley's not great but he'll do once he gets back up to good form. You need a second wingback but they don't come cheap since you need players with good defense and good wing skill. If you can find another youngish (under 25) pass def/inad wing for under $25K, jump on him. Then you can play 2 wing defenders and only one middle defender which balances out your defense better.
CD: Orourke, Meade
I think Orourke's a good sale candidate. With counterattacking quite popular and his powerful speciality, he could sell for quite a bit. However, he's 29 and may not sell that highly so if you don't get a good price for him (>$50K), you might want to just hang onto him. Meade is, well, he's there. You need a warm body to fill the spot, so he'll do.
MI:
WI: Stephens, Mcallister
Hud and Ken are a bit crappy but they're as good as you have right now. Both have ok playmaking so they will contribute to your midfield. Both have passable passing so they will be good offensive wingers. Mcallister is quick. Unfortunately neither are great wingers.
FO: Muniz, Tanner
You're loaded at forward. Muniz is a star and will be with you for quite a while. If you decide you need more cash, he's the guy to sell because he'll net good cash and you have some subs. Tanner's a pass/pass in the two primary skills for a striker (scoring and passing).
To do
Coach: Fire your coach and get a pass/poor coach (internal) 79600. This is the most important thing you can do right now. If you don't it will take forever to train up players.
Fire: Poh-Fah, Melton, Mclendon - They're utterly useless and you're wasting cash on their salary.
Sell: Orourke, Davis, Anderson, Latham - For sales, make sure to put them up in the afternoon as it's easily the best time to sell. There's lots of North Americans on during the day and a ton of Europeans enjoying their evening hattrick fix.
Limbo: Conroy, Peoples - They will either be subs or you will just ditch them.
To Buy: Get that wing defender mentioned above, if you can. Also, if you have the cash once you've bought everything else, start looking at a passable keeper. But here comes your big expense.
Training: Your midfield sucks. Plain and simple. And in hattrick, midfield wins you games early on. So, I think it's the perfect thing for you to train. You kill two birds with one stone- you improve your starters and get good trainees. You have $210K sitting around (roughly) after getting a coach. So, look for 6 trainees at under $35K each. I really haven't prices midfield trainees lately, but if you're patient, you should be able to find six 17yo or 18yo players with passable playmaking and inad or higher stamina. Secondaries are nice, but you can't really afford them yet. For trainees, you play your 3 best for fixtures and your 3 backups for friendlies. That way, they all get training for the week. I'd love to explain the ins-and-outs of training but I'm about to crash so someone else can have that pleasure. Speaking of which, schedule a friendly for this week. Find someone in the USA (if you go internationally, you have to pay $6K which you can't afford right now) or someone willing to come internationally to your stadium.
Anyways, that's it for now. It's kindof a shoddy job due to all the mess this week involving school but it's a decent start and a lot of others around here can help you quite a bit more :D
SI
BishopMVP
04-26-2004, 03:52 AM
SI's is better, but mine was first ;)
Only thing I'd disagree with is that Carl Lemon can be a trainee so you only need to buy 5. Also, wingers get half-training, so you might consider purchasing some players there but don't worry about that too much. But I agree Anderson is better sold, because some idiot won't realize how much the wretched stamina will hurt him at IM.
Vince
04-26-2004, 03:54 AM
Benjamin Muniz
212 000 US$, 23 years, inadequate form
Has poor experience and passable leadership abilities
Stamina: weak Keeper: wretched
Playmaking: inadequate Passing: solid
Winger: poor Defending: inadequate
Scoring: solid Set Pieces: inadequate
Ben is a great forward to start with. Plus, he's relatively young, and already has Poor experience...not bad at all. Probably your best player.
Bing Poh-Fah
6 000 US$, 20 years, wretched form
Has disastrous experience and weak leadership abilities [Quick]
Stamina: passable Keeper: disastrous
Playmaking: poor Passing: weak
Winger: poor Defending: poor
Scoring: weak Set Pieces: wretched
Bing here is rather useless...I'd keep him on as a backup forward.
Carl Lemon
169 000 US$, 21 years, inadequate form
Has wretched experience and weak leadership abilities
Stamina: inadequate Keeper: wretched
Playmaking: passable Passing: inadequate
Winger: weak Defending: inadequate
Scoring: passable Set Pieces: passable
Carl has a pretty broad range of talents...he'd probably be best as an Inner Midfielder.
Clement Saylor
127 000 US$, 24 years, inadequate form
Has wretched experience and passable leadership abilities
Stamina: disastrous Keeper: inadequate
Playmaking: wretched Passing: wretched
Winger: disastrous Defending: wretched
Scoring: disastrous Set Pieces: passable
Clement is a goaltender, and not a very good one. Keep him for now, but try to get a passable guy Soon.
Collin Simpson
0 US$, 42 years, weak form
Has passable experience and weak leadership abilities
Stamina: disastrous Keeper: disastrous
Playmaking: wretched Passing: wretched
Winger: disastrous Defending: wretched
Scoring: disastrous Set Pieces: disastrous
I'm guessing he's your coach...what's important is his rating as a coach. Should be 'A XXX coach with...' somewhere on his dealio. If he's not at least Passable, I'd go buy a passable coach with terrible leadership. The ability of your coach determines how fast your players train and improve, which is basically your major source of income.
Darnell Tanner
112 000 US$, 29 years, inadequate form
Has wretched experience and weak leadership abilities [Technical]
Stamina: weak Keeper: wretched
Playmaking: weak Passing: passable
Winger: weak Defending: passable
Scoring: passable Set Pieces: inadequate
Another great all-around guy...probably a forward.
Duane Meade
24 000 US$, 23 years, inadequate form
Has wretched experience and wretched leadership abilities
Stamina: weak Keeper: disastrous
Playmaking: poor Passing: wretched
Winger: poor Defending: passable
Scoring: weak Set Pieces: disastrous
Duane is going to be a defender.
Hud Stephens
56 000 US$, 20 years, weak form
Has disastrous experience and disastrous leadership abilities [Head]
Stamina: weak Keeper: wretched
Playmaking: weak Passing: passable
Winger: inadequate Defending: poor
Scoring: inadequate Set Pieces: wretched
Should be an offensive Winger.
Jacob Peoples
22 000 US$, 22 years, weak form
Has disastrous experience and weak leadership abilities [Unpredictable]
Stamina: weak Keeper: disastrous
Playmaking: weak Passing: inadequate
Winger: inadequate Defending: inadequate
Scoring: disastrous Set Pieces: wretched
Hmmm...I'd say another winger.
Jamie Conroy
12 000 US$, 28 years, wretched form
Has weak experience and inadequate leadership abilities [Head]
Stamina: weak Keeper: disastrous
Playmaking: inadequate Passing: weak
Winger: inadequate Defending: disastrous
Scoring: poor Set Pieces: inadequate
An Inner Midfielder...needs some stamina though.
Jamison Melton
1 000 US$, 22 years, weak form
Has disastrous experience and wretched leadership abilities [Head]
Stamina: passable Keeper: disastrous
Playmaking: wretched Passing: wretched
Winger: disastrous Defending: weak
Scoring: wretched Set Pieces: solid
Could fly as a defender, and double as your Set Pieces specialist.
Kelley Mclendon
4 000 US$, 30 years, poor form
Has weak experience and inadequate leadership abilities [Quick]
Stamina: weak Keeper: wretched
Playmaking: weak Passing: weak
Winger: poor Defending: weak
Scoring: poor Set Pieces: disastrous
Hm. Pretty terrible...if anywhere, Inner Midfield, I guess.
Ken Mcallister
43 000 US$, 24 years, weak form
Has disastrous experience and weak leadership abilities [Quick]
Stamina: wretched Keeper: disastrous
Playmaking: inadequate Passing: passable
Winger: inadequate Defending: poor
Scoring: inadequate Set Pieces: passable
Another Inner Midfielder, but DEFINITELY needs some stamina.
Kurtis Davis
38 000 US$, 25 years, poor form
Has poor experience and passable leadership abilities
Stamina: poor Keeper: disastrous
Playmaking: inadequate Passing: wretched
Winger: weak Defending: disastrous
Scoring: solid Set Pieces: weak
Too bad he's got wretched passing. He can be another forward.
Lee Anderson
17 000 US$, 28 years, wretched form
Has poor experience and poor leadership abilities
Stamina: wretched Keeper: wretched
Playmaking: passable Passing: passable
Winger: poor Defending: poor
Scoring: wretched Set Pieces: inadequate
Inner midfielder, but again, needs stamina.
Raymond Orourke
57 000 US$, 29 years, inadequate form
Has weak experience and weak leadership abilities [Powerful]
Stamina: poor Keeper: disastrous
Playmaking: weak Passing: passable
Winger: wretched Defending: solid
Scoring: weak Set Pieces: wretched
Your best defender to start with.
Ronald Latham
39 000 US$, 24 years, inadequate form
Has poor experience and weak leadership abilities [Head]
Stamina: passable Keeper: disastrous
Playmaking: wretched Passing: inadequate
Winger: passable Defending: wretched
Scoring: inadequate Set Pieces: inadequate
Another decent offensive winger. Inadequate set pieces is a nice bonus.
Sol Crowley
21 000 US$, 25 years, wretched form
Has poor experience and poor leadership abilities
Stamina: poor Keeper: disastrous
Playmaking: poor Passing: poor
Winger: inadequate Defending: passable
Scoring: inadequate Set Pieces: wretched
Another defender.
Proposed starting lineup:
Forwards - Kurtis Davis, Ben Muniz
Wingers - Ronald Latham, Jacob Peoples
Inner Midfielders - Lee Anderson, Ken McAllister, Carl Lemon
Central Defender - Sol Crowley
Wingbacks - Raymond O'Rourke, Duane Mead
Goalie - Clement Saylor
Fire - Bing Poh-Fah
Quick rundown of the positions and what is important to each:
Forward: Scoring, Passing (Forwards contribute to all your Offensive ratings)
Winger: Winger, Playmaking, Stamina, Defending, Passing (Wingers contribute mainly to your Offensive side ratings; they add a little to wing defense and to midfield)
Inner Midfield: Playmaking, Stamina, Defending, Passing (Midfielders contribute to your midfield, and a TINY bit to central attack and defense)
Defenders: Defending (Duh)
Goalkeeper: Keeper (Keepers account for all three defensive ratings, and play a large role in each of those ratings).
And for a concise rundown of the denominations:
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They keep going from there, but you probably won't need to know them for a while.
Vince
04-26-2004, 03:56 AM
And I'm really slow :)
SI and Bishop have the right idea...you need a training program.
Edit - I'd disagree with SI about the only buying 25 or younger though...the guys you are buying now are only there to get you out of the crappiest of the crappy divisions. I wouldn't hesitate to buy 28-30 yos at the positions you're getting now, especially if you're not looking to buy higher than Passable. You should be making money within a season, and these guys won't lose value for at least a year or two. You can also probably get the older guys a bit cheaper...
sterlingice
04-26-2004, 03:57 AM
Dola- looks like someone already beat me to the punch. :)
One last warning: don't just go out shopping on the transfer wire with an open checkbook and without planning out your spending. Every single one of us has done it and we have all regretted it. Look at the market and look at lots of players before you spend cash. If you see a player and you think "I'll never see a bargain like this again", YOU ARE WRONG! Again, we've all made this mistake and the only way to make your initial bucks last are to spend them wisely because you won't get that kind of cash again for quite a while (until you sell off your first round of trainees).
And how the heck could you have a team named the Lakers?!? :mad::p
SI
sterlingice
04-26-2004, 03:58 AM
Holy crap, I thought that was a dola and 3 more posts snuck through. Oh, and Bishop is 100% right about Lemon.
SI
BishopMVP
04-26-2004, 04:02 AM
Nobody touches it for an hour and a half then we all post within 15 minutes. Interesting. At least they are both in earlier time zones. I'm going to bed.
sterlingice
04-26-2004, 04:10 AM
Edit - I'd disagree with SI about the only buying 25 or younger though...the guys you are buying now are only there to get you out of the crappiest of the crappy divisions. I wouldn't hesitate to buy 28-30 yos at the positions you're getting now, especially if you're not looking to buy higher than Passable. You should be making money within a season, and these guys won't lose value for at least a year or two. You can also probably get the older guys a bit cheaper...
There are certainly two sides of this coin. If you have the time to shop around, you can find a 23yo for the price most 28-30yos are going for. Then, when you want to sell them in a couple of seasons for an upgrade, they will have resale value whereas a 30-32yo will not.
However, you will be able to get 28yo+ guys for very very cheap so if you want to save money early on, then this is a good way. The best way to get quality for cheap early on is to get old guys with weak or higher experience. You'll get an extra half star of performance without having to pay for it because the cost of the performance is offset by the fact that they will have no resale value.
So you can get better performance now or you can have these guys as collateral with resale value later. You might want to go the veteran route early to save your cash so you can spend more on trainees. You might even want to invest in a veteran at each position for quality backups at under $10K cost.
SI
lytic
04-26-2004, 07:13 AM
did anyone say expand your arena to 16k using the arena formula?
Havok
04-26-2004, 09:44 AM
i'd list Benjamin Muniz for 250-300k..... he should sell for at least 300k i think. I know he's a good forward to have on your team, but you could build a VERY nice training program with the money you make off him.
JeeberD
04-26-2004, 11:56 AM
Thanks for all the advice, guys. I probably don't have time to implement it all today, but maybe tomorrow night I'l get busy with it all. You guys have actually got me excited about this...something that I didn't think could ever happen... :)
And how the heck could you have a team named the Lakers?!? :mad::p
Well, I live in Lewisville now and one of the main features of this town is Lewisville Lake. It seemed like a natural fit. You better believe that my colors aren't purple and gold though... :D
Mr. Wednesday
04-26-2004, 08:33 PM
OK, you're starting out in division V, so we can scout your series using Hatstats USA (http://usa.hatstats.info). Hatstats is awesome, but it only goes down to division V in the U.S. Before I scout, I'll tell you that you're going to have a tough go of things for the next six weeks in the average division V series. Most of them are strong enough that you'll do well to get up to sixth place. You're starting out in a big hole, too -- 8th place, seven points out of 7th, nine out of 6th (and the 6th is a demotee from IV!!!). I see the Velvets are neighborly, you might want to take them up on their offer of assistance.
OK, on to Hatstats... oh my. :eek :eek: You caught a rough series, one through six are all competent players, seven is good enough to be an even match and you'll be playing your return match at their place. Don't get discouraged if you don't have much success at the start, just stick with the program. You'll probably have to spend a season in VI.
My main recommendation here is going to be, don't upgrade your stadium, not now. You're not going to win, your supporters aren't going to be happy, you're going to have trouble filling the one you've got. Watch your money, it's going to be tight for the rest of the season. Get your training program going, and next season, you should be looking to expand to somewhere in the 12,000 to 15,000 range.
lytic
04-27-2004, 08:50 AM
He will lose money if he doesn't expand. He won't get a roof nor VIP seats. If you build it, they will come.
Also if you don't do it in the beginning, it usually takes people a long time to get the kinda money to do it.
Mr. Wednesday
04-27-2004, 11:52 AM
Good point with the seats under roof and VIP boxes... I wouldn't recommend building as big, though... maybe to 12,000 instead of 15?
lytic
04-27-2004, 01:48 PM
I dunno why I came up with 16k... but it's seemed to work with the people that ask me for advice.
Since he should get demoted soon, than I guess he could always expand later.
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