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John Kerry
06-19-2004, 11:40 AM
Get off my side!

I'm John Kerry, and I approve this message.

Glengoyne
06-19-2004, 11:45 AM
Too funny

Dutch
06-19-2004, 12:16 PM
lol,

Don't listen to him, Flasch, you're doing great.

Flasch186
06-19-2004, 12:46 PM
John:

we were right man!! the prison abuse scandal is getting some much needed light shed on it and it looks like it DOES climb higher then the middle class troops theyre trying to throw to the wolves. And Ir ead today that Bush's friend Kenneth Lay actually is going to get indicted, ironically right when all that bad press from the California scandal happened. As long as the truth keeps coming out and people dont by into the rhetoric that consistently comes from the WH, like Saddam having ties to Al Qaeda, (how does he keep saying that when everyone knows they dont) you'll win in November. Just dont let me down, you better speak the truth and your admin better do the same when youre in or ill vote your ass out too.

Dutch
06-19-2004, 02:02 PM
Flasch,

Do you blame the Music Industry and their leaders for Michael Jackson and R. Kelly's child abuse problems?

Flasch186
06-19-2004, 02:06 PM
nope their own morals and ethics, much like the pols. at the WH as well, poor morals and ethics.

EDIT - misguided morals and ethics....im sure that they believe that they are on the right track, so IMO, poor.

Dutch
06-19-2004, 03:09 PM
Your answers are always so confusing! What the hell are you saying, exactly. The Record Industry head honcho's are responsable for MJ and RK or not?

EagleFan
06-19-2004, 03:16 PM
John:

we were right man!! the prison abuse scandal is getting some much needed light shed on it and it looks like it DOES climb higher then the middle class troops theyre trying to throw to the wolves. And Ir ead today that Bush's friend Kenneth Lay actually is going to get indicted, ironically right when all that bad press from the California scandal happened. As long as the truth keeps coming out and people dont by into the rhetoric that consistently comes from the WH, like Saddam having ties to Al Qaeda, (how does he keep saying that when everyone knows they dont) you'll win in November. Just dont let me down, you better speak the truth and your admin better do the same when youre in or ill vote your ass out too.


I guess you don't believe Russia about Sadaam and ties to terrorists now? Funny how when they say something that supporst your arguement, you make it a headline. Sorry, didn't mean to piss on your illogical parade.

Joe
06-19-2004, 04:17 PM
Get off my side!

I'm John Kerry, and I approve this message.


Get off your side? How about get outta your ass.

John Kerry
06-19-2004, 05:12 PM
Get off your side? How about get outta your ass.


Tell me about it.

:(

Noop
06-19-2004, 05:29 PM
Very Sad. I don't a problem with him supporting Kerry much like we have alot of Bush fans who will vote for him either way it goes...

Flasch186
06-19-2004, 06:26 PM
I think it is halarious that the right is using the Russia report as evidence when it was Produced by the Saddam regime itself. Very trustworthy source. Wasnt it the Saddam regime who would go on TV while the bombs were falling and claim that they were winning the war. Use a report with some credibility behind it.

BTW, i dont support JK as much as I dislike the admin we have now. They lie, they cheat, they steal and yet they still have supporters INCREDIBLE. Exactly what is their argument when they try to tell the UN that they should be immune to War Crimes.....that is preposterous. If anything they should be proud that they arent immune, that they hold up the very highest of standards as well....oh wait, perhaps they should be scared.

Schmidty
06-19-2004, 06:43 PM
Democrats never lie. Democrats never cheat.

Is that your mantra?

MrBug708
06-19-2004, 06:50 PM
I had a friend who got a DUI. I guess that means I support people who drink and drive....

Desnudo
06-19-2004, 06:53 PM
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BTW, i dont support JK as much as I dislike the admin we have now. They lie, they cheat, they steal and yet they still have supporters INCREDIBLE. Exactly what is their argument when they try to tell the UN that they should be immune to War Crimes.....that is preposterous. If anything they should be proud that they arent immune, that they hold up the very highest of standards as well....oh wait, perhaps they should be scared.

The US stance has always been that we try our soldiers under our judicial/court martial systems. That's nothing new from this administration. The last thing I would want is some French or German judge presiding over a panel in a case that could decide American soldiers futures.

And lieing, cheating, and stealing seems to be the general trend among our last few presidents. And I assume you voted to reelect President Clinton? Two rights don't make a wrong, but I don't know why you find the idea of someone retaining support shocking.

EagleFan
06-19-2004, 07:38 PM
I think it is halarious that the right is using the Russia report as evidence when it was Produced by the Saddam regime itself.


Where in the hell are you getting crap like this? Are you so filled with your own BS opinions that you just make up your own stories? Are you Michael Moore?

Buccaneer
06-19-2004, 07:45 PM
I really wish people would stop quoting Flasch.

sabotai
06-19-2004, 09:30 PM
I really wish people would stop quoting Flasch.

Gonna have to agree with you there. I tired once and I guess I'm the fool for it.

SFL Cat
06-19-2004, 09:41 PM
They lie, they cheat, they steal and yet they still have supporters INCREDIBLE.

Yeah, damn that President Clinton....oh wait....

chinaski
06-19-2004, 11:45 PM
Yeah, damn that President Clinton....oh wait....

Clinton didnt kill 900+ Americans and 10,000+ innocent Iraqis either.

Joe
06-20-2004, 12:06 AM
yeah, he decided that ignoring terrorism was a better bet

chinaski
06-20-2004, 12:31 AM
I think you have him confused with Reagan.

SunDancer
06-20-2004, 12:51 AM
Where's Madonna when you need her, and her views and "morals"?

MrBug708
06-20-2004, 01:09 AM
i thought her name is Esther now?

Flasch186
06-20-2004, 09:10 AM
Democrats never lie. Democrats never cheat.
Is that your mantra?

No but I cant vote for someone who is doing that now.


And lieing, cheating, and stealing seems to be the general trend among our last few presidents. And I assume you voted to reelect President Clinton? Two rights don't make a wrong, but I don't know why you find the idea of someone retaining support shocking.


Ill take a lie over a BJ any day over the countless lies that have come out since Bush took office....should I list them here, I did in some other threads and it is soo long that it takes some time. Actually no need to, Im sure that even right wingers admit that the admin has lied, they just think it was for the right cause.



Originally Posted by Flasch186
"The information was prepared by saddam's Regime"

Im sure it was just as trustworthy as Chalabi's info. This crap is ridiculous, why dont we just throw darts at map and go there, seems like the intel isnt any better.

Is this the same quote Ksyrup put up? I can't find your quote in the article, but Ksyrup's quote is saying that the "attacks" were being prepared by Saddam's Regime, not the "information about the attacks." I think you've misread this (unless you are referring to a different quote in the article that I can't find).

The above part , starting at "is this the same..." came from another thread where i was quoted above that, I dont know how to make that reflected here though....just learned the manual quote thing :)


I stand corrected, I took someone else's quote and assumed it to be true. It turns out that I cannot find that quote in the article after re-reading it and stand corrected. AND AM ABLE TO CHANGE MY OPINION. Now that is incredibly open minded, dontcha think? Now those who will not see the Moore movie because they dont want to, THAT is closed minded. (again Sab. if you dont have time or dont wantt o support it financially, would be legitimate reasons)


yeah, he decided that ignoring terrorism was a better bet (re: Clinton)

What a load of horsecrap. Clinton did all he could and had regard for innocent lives. He tried on numerous occasions to get Bin Laden, via cruisemissle strikes, etc. He passed on the info. that Bin LAden was the GREATEST threat to the US and yet until 9/11 it was absolutely ignored in all the speeches by any of the admin up til that point. Bush simply didnt believe it and that is a fact.

j25352857
06-20-2004, 09:24 AM
Clinton did some good in fighting terrorism... but he did chase Bin Laden out of the Sudan and into Afghanistan, where its proving impossible to catch him.


And about the movie... why is it being close minded if you don't want to see it? There are a ton of movies people choose not to see based on reviews or previews or whatever. Are all the people who didnt want to see Gigli because of what they heard about it close minded? I don't need to see that movie to know Affleck sucks cock.

Flasch186
06-20-2004, 09:28 AM
If you are interested in the topic, and want to cast opine on it, then it is my opine, that you should see as much info. as possible when creating your opinion and judgments. Some people in the other thread are panning the movie before even seeing it and I disagree with that. Panning the person would be fine, but not the product without seeing it, that is closed minded IMO.


and Bush chased him out of afghanistan into Kashmir, not sure that is resoundingly better.

Noop
06-20-2004, 11:03 AM
Flasch I too find it funny after all the lies people will still blindly vote for him come election day. I am sorry but voting for Bush is condeming yourself to a future police state with this so called Patriot Act and war on terror.

Bush = Very Bad
Kerry = Bad

Big Government = Very Very Bad Idea. Why do you want the government to do everything for you? Bunch of lazy go for nothing dummies is what I say....{end of rant}

MIJB#19
06-20-2004, 11:10 AM
"You are either with us right-wing politicians or with the Republicans!"

This annual US politics joke was brought to you by an extreme left-sided Dutchmen, who will now chicken out and not interfere with political topics for another year.

SFL Cat
06-20-2004, 11:47 PM
Where's Madonna when you need her, and her views and "morals"?

Madonna has *gasp* morals? :eek:

famatu
06-21-2004, 03:11 AM
Flasch is the reason I quit the USFL. I posted a link, THIS LINK (http://masada2000.org/historical.html) that tells the truth about the Israel vs. Palestine conflict and he deleted all my posts. The left LOVES the 1st amendment - as long as they agree with what you say!

mckerney
06-21-2004, 03:24 AM
Flasch is the reason I quit the USFL. I posted a link, THIS LINK (http://masada2000.org/historical.html) that tells the truth about the Israel vs. Palestine conflict and he deleted all my posts. The left LOVES the 1st amendment - as long as they agree with what you say!

But I'm sure that Flasch took the time to thoroughly read the site so that he could get another view of the issue. He's not the close minded type that would completey ignore one side, that way he couldn't get all the possible information out there....

Flasch186
06-21-2004, 07:00 AM
Wait a second, I deleted the Post because the entire thread was getting incendiary. I couldnt care less about the validity of your argument when it comes to keeping fights out of my league (I just kicked someone out of the league for being too abrasive and pissing everyone off - just so happens to be the guy you were fighting with TOO). If you are going to speak the truth about the history of palestine please speak the truth as to why I deleted the post also, and also my comments that went along with it. I see that not including what I said ALSO makes my deletions much more controversial rather than telling the whole story. It was another argument with the "teenager", that forced me to edit the thread eliminating both your comments and his anti-semitic remarks (WHICH have no place on a FOF league's msg. board) and perhaps you should also write that I agree(d) with you or some of what you said, Im Jewish, not that that has any bearing at all on the validity of the link, or the argument.

And also to say I deleted "ALL" of your posts helps the cause as well, right? I only deleted the ones that involved you and the other person and the one's that got personal, calling eachother names. I deleted his posts as well. Keep in mind that I also said if you guys wanted to argue about it that you should bring it over here...well done. Only the other guy has been banned from here. I guess deleting the post(s) thus squashing the fight was the right decision for a commissioner to make. Im glad I got the argument off the boards before it really turned ugly, considering that the other guy leaves nazi comments on the board now, when he can. I also warned you that the fight was going to turn ugly before it did, and would delete whatever I deemed necessary to keep the boards clean of the gutter arguments, and I did.

I read the site and agree with some of it but that didnt matter, it was about keeping a pissing match out of my league. Wish that the truth made it into your comments, not just your link.

SunDancer
06-21-2004, 02:55 PM
Madonna has *gasp* morals? :eek:

Which is why I wrote "morals". Is she even American?

SunDancer
06-21-2004, 02:59 PM
Big Government = Very Very Bad Idea. Why do you want the government to do everything for you? Bunch of lazy go for nothing dummies is what I say....{end of rant}

Agree...Last time I check, we were a capitalist, democratic nation, not a socialist. As for the lies, I am curious, Flash, are you a perfect, moral, ethicial person who does everything right all the same? As for Iraq, people think its gonna take 10 hours to do what we gotta do. It won't. It will take years for change, in the mindsets and progression of Iraq.

Ralph_Nader
06-21-2004, 03:11 PM
You can join my side.

Ralph_Nader
06-21-2004, 03:18 PM
Flasch I too find it funny after all the lies people will still blindly vote for him come election day. I am sorry but voting for Bush is condeming yourself to a future police state with this so called Patriot Act and war on terror.

Bush = Very Bad
Kerry = Bad

Big Government = Very Very Bad Idea. Why do you want the government to do everything for you? Bunch of lazy go for nothing dummies is what I say....{end of rant}
Nader = Gooooooooood!