View Full Version : WOOHOO!!! NO SALARY HIKES!!!!
FrogMan
06-21-2004, 07:03 AM
Me loves the new salary rules. I'll post more a little later, but for now I already know the net effect, as I saw my team salary drop from 104 096 C$ to 88 456 C$, a drop of 15 640 C$ or 7 820 U$ :)
How about everybody else?
FM
I won't be able to tell you for certain until later today. Edit: I doubt the "economy" page will be of much help.
FrogMan
06-21-2004, 07:08 AM
AE, no, the economy page isn't of any help. I just updated my excel spreadsheet, player by player, that's why I know. The other way would be to update HAM.
FM
cheetum
06-21-2004, 07:12 AM
my salaries are about the same as last season but i consider that a good thing. that and this which is also on my economy page:
Sponsors 101 805
Financial 95 000
:D
95 000 for financials. How much cash is on your bank account cheetum ?
KevinNU7
06-21-2004, 08:47 AM
I went up $4K which isn't bad sicne I train Playmaking
DukeRulesMAB
06-21-2004, 09:13 AM
Wages up 8000, which isn't bad considering my U-20 American went up 12K :)
Wages went up 5,000, so I'm happy.
cheetum
06-21-2004, 10:46 AM
95 000 for financials. How much cash is on your bank account cheetum ?
about 10 mil... for now. but i still have 2 trainees on my shopping list... and im not after the cheap ones ;)
blackout
06-21-2004, 11:09 AM
My wages went down 7k, in part to having all my good players except 2 in bad form!
FrogMan
06-21-2004, 11:12 AM
I think that form isn't part of the equation for a player's wage...
FM
DataKing
06-21-2004, 11:44 AM
Wages dropped from $63,442 to $50,310.
Mr. Wednesday
06-21-2004, 11:48 AM
My wages went down 7k, in part to having all my good players except 2 in bad form!No, form is not part of the wage formula. (Before wages were divorced from TSI and injuries, we would say that wages were calculated assuming passable form.)
bronconick
06-21-2004, 11:49 AM
Mine dropped from 31k to 29k, even with a trainee quadrupling his per week salary from $1,100 to $4,933
Havok
06-21-2004, 12:00 PM
Mine went from $48,516 to $51,170..... i'll take it :)
BillyNYC
06-21-2004, 12:01 PM
Up from around 265k to 310k, which is more managable than expected, considering numerous late-season buys that were likely trained most of last season. Magical keeper is somehow under 40k/week (maybe decrease in keeper importance led to HT making decrease in wages?). Only 1 player over 50k, and that guy's a nat. team starter, so I'll get relief there too.
Especially manageable considering 2 seriesmates each have a single player over 200k ALONE. The 310k would've been 8th or 9th in II at end of last season and would be middle of the pack right now I'm guessing. Hopefully my RESULTS won't be :)
NAIWF
06-21-2004, 12:53 PM
50 to 61K, but my two top trainees picked up 15K alone, so it could have been much worse. Once I sell off the # 1 midway through the season, I'll be close(r) to last season's wages again.
YoSoySean
06-21-2004, 01:42 PM
AE, no, the economy page isn't of any help. I just updated my excel spreadsheet, player by player, that's why I know. The other way would be to update HAM.
FM
Or use a calculator and wordpad like I did ;)
Went up about $6,000 in wages.
sterlingice
06-21-2004, 01:46 PM
I went up from 48K to 50K. Can't go wrong with that. And that's with one player jumping $5K.
SI
I went from 45k to 33k. I can't complain, though Jerome will. He lost out on almost 3k a week.
Raven Hawk
06-21-2004, 02:32 PM
I went down from 66k to 60k *shrug*
TargetPractice6
06-21-2004, 03:49 PM
Some of the new salary rules are ridiculous. For one keepers are ridiculously cheap now. Jude Sutherland only gets payed $73k! My mythical mid gets payed more than that. It's absolutely 100% ridiculous that you can own a keeper several levels above divine for a fraction of the cost of a divine anything else.
Second, they it's almost like the removed the salary for extra skills completely. That fact that Nathan Longoria only gets payed $40k is insane. It's one thing to want to reduce wages for secondaries, but you should still have to pay something for them.
sterlingice
06-21-2004, 03:53 PM
Second, they it's almost like the removed the salary for extra skills completely. That fact that Nathan Longoria only gets payed $40k is insane. It's one thing to want to reduce wages for secondaries, but you should still have to pay something for them.
Yeah, no kidding. The most noticeable drop I had was Mick Starks who has 3 passables and 1 solid in primary skills along with excellent stamina and solid set pieces. His salary went from over $3K to $800.
SI
PilotMan
06-21-2004, 03:56 PM
We went from 47700 to 44956, but also saw the departure of 2 of our higher paid players, and the addition of some cheap labor.
GoldenEagle
06-21-2004, 04:02 PM
My wages dropped $10,000.
TargetPractice6
06-21-2004, 04:37 PM
Yeah, no kidding. The most noticeable drop I had was Mick Starks who has 3 passables and 1 solid in primary skills along with excellent stamina and solid set pieces. His salary went from over $3K to $800.
SIMitchell Bautista went from $10k to aroudn $1k. I know he's getting old, but that's still a huge drop.
PilotMan
06-21-2004, 04:40 PM
I guess this puts new feeling to the term "Taking one for the team."
Cosmicjello
06-21-2004, 05:56 PM
Does this seem odd to anyone else??
Mats Norrland (15709372)
21 years, passable form, healthy
Nationality: Sverige
Total Skill Index (TSI): 440 (44 000 US$)
Wage: 673 US$/week including 20% Bonus
Stamina: excellent Goaltending: disastrous
Playmaking: poor Passing: poor
Winger: inadequate Defending: passable
Scoring: poor Set Pieces: inadequate
Compared to this weeks YP:
Quintin Levy (35494199)
18 years, passable form, healthy
Nationality: USA
Total Skill Index (TSI): 350 (35 000 US$)
Wage: 680 US$/week
Stamina: weak Goaltending: disastrous
Playmaking:wretched Passing: wretched
Winger: inadequate Defending: passable
Scoring: poor Set Pieces: wretched
Mats is equal if not better in every aspect and his wage is $7 less INCLUDING the 20%??? Something can't be right there.
Masked
06-21-2004, 06:00 PM
Mats value is effected by his stamina skill which has less impact on his salary in 6.6.2 since he is not a midfielder.
Matt2You
06-21-2004, 06:06 PM
I went from 36,462 to 42,440. It would have been a larger climb, but I sold a few players. The entire system is so flawed. It also works out for me that I don't care about trainee stamina untill I sell them (I train PM) because that cut my wages down a lot, I would think. Two trainees of mine who went up twice each in PM, are cheaper now with their passable/inadequate inadequate/passable secondaries. Insane. Wingbacks (starting) lost about 900 each on my team since they have winger and defence skills.
I DID gain value on both of my goalies who have got no training whatsoever.
Starting IM's all gained wage increases. I think its noticably cheaper for those with secondaries actually. (6442 total)
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Over all: The two outstanding strikers I bought and the outstanding defender I bought increased in wages (due to the fact they got training this season vs. the last)
And in addition; Starting IM's and Starting&Back-up Keeper increased in value. All others lost.
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DukeRulesMAB
06-21-2004, 07:21 PM
Reading the conferences, it would appear I am screwed. Pure winger trainers are getting hammered by the new wages. Collier's not so bad this year, but next year and particularly at age 21 he's gonna have wages on a level I can't even comprehend. And selling him won't be much of an option; it's gonna be too well know how overpaid high level wings are.
It boggles my mind that the devs would encourage wingers training as they did when they cut the dev time, then absolutely kill it like they have here. I'm gonna train Collier for the two seasons, because I want to help the U-20 squad, but then I'm out of the winger business unless something changes with the wages. Guess it's forwards for us.
OldGiants
06-21-2004, 07:25 PM
I went from 25k to 27.4 and that's with my keeper trainees quadrupling and tripling. At 14k for the two of them, that's more than half my wages in the two trainees.
Mr. Wednesday
06-22-2004, 01:08 AM
I have got to think that this is an unintended consequence, considering that just about every other high-level player type seems to be seeing a decrease in wages. Either they really screwed something up (so that it's cheaper to get a guy with good secondaries, which makes no sense) or they're highly-skilled players especially hard to make up for the reduced penalty to secondaries, and this is only being seen with wingers.
Brillig
06-22-2004, 03:48 AM
Not sure what to think.
Overall wages, down about $1k.
Wages for my three keepers, up about $12k. (Including my disaster backup passable goalie who went from $1,840 to $2,247, despite not having played a single game last season).
Meh.
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