When to sell: What option to choose

[JAG]

Currently in my first full season of HT (started week 13 of last season) in division VI.4 of the US and am training keepers with a passable/poor coach. My original idea was to sell the two guys I'm currently training, at formidable-1 and excellent+2 sometime next season when both would (maybe?) get to briliant, since it seemed like that would be a pretty great profit and let me switch training to scoring, which I decided on a little while back, and upgrade the team greatly. I'm also running about a -260k or so deficit and have 4 away vs. 2 home games left on the year. Then I thought it mght be wiser to sell one of my trainees when they hit formidable then buy a solid/poor coach and the best trainee I could find with the remaining cash, then sell both next season. Which option is most desirable?

1. Sell Trainee 1 next week when he hits form., buy new coach and trainee, sell next season as planned..

2. Sell Trainee 2 in 4 or so weeks when he hits form., buy new coach and trainee, sell next season as planned.

3. Stay the course.

Incidentlally, do 17 yr olds train faster than 18 yr olds who train faster than 19 yr olds, or do 17-19 train at the same speed?

Thanks as always guys and gals.

[Raven Hawk]

How old are your two trainees?

Yes, 17 y/o's train faster than 18 y/o's who train faster than 19 y/o's

[JAG]

Thanks, wasn't sure about that. Both of my trainees are 18.

[Masked]

3) Stay the course

I would also buy a player with passable leadership, passable experience as soon as possible and plan on converting him to a solid coach when you sell off your trainee. Considering that you likely have a good defense since you have a nice GK (esp for div 6), I would look for an inadequate or passable defender to be your future coach. Play him in every league and cup game until he pops to solid exp.

I think you'll be better off if you keep training the guys you have now, then downgrading your trainee to upgrade your coach.

[Tellistto]

My question is this, coming from someone who's training keeper with basically the same plan. Are you training a keeper to keep, or are you going to sell both and then buy another down the road?

I ask because my plan is somewhat similar, except that I am going to keep my main trainee, and sell my other one to fund my training switch. This basically means I'll have spent 2 and a half seasons training keeper to get a super natural one which I didn't pay a dime for cause I pulled him.

I personally don't see the point in training two keepers up to brilliant to fund a switch, when you can buy a dern good training program with the 3 or so mil you can get for a brilliant keeper and still have one damn good keeper left over.

Food for thought.

Tell

[damnMikeBrown]

I'd encourage you to hold on to one of those keepers for the long term. It's a huge plus that you won't have to shell out mass $$ for a competent keeper.

[Tellistto]

Dola,


Basically my plan is to train my main who is currently 19 and brilliant+1 to supernatural. My off trainee is 18 and formidable+2 will be trained to magnificent and sold at the end of next season to fund my training switch and upgrade my team somewhat. Since it's expensive to buy a good keeper, I would seriously advise you to keep at least one keeper that you train, otherwise your whole training of keeper was a bit of a waste, IMO.

Tell

[JFiz]

I didn't know that 17s train faster then 18s who train faster then 19s... if you look at hattrix it says that it takes X amount of weeks for a 17-19 year old and then you add a week for every year older then 19 he is.

[JAG]

Thanks for the comments guys.

Masked: That would be ideal, but I have -260k debt or so and little way to raise the capital to get such a coach-in-training, so unless I have a monster youth pull, I probably won't have the means to do it.

Tellisto and DMB: It's an interesting idea I hadn't thought of, as I had assumed I would've needed more money to start a new program. The only problem might be that I would need to sell one to stay above the -500k line within the next season or two, as I don't have much else in the way of assets. If I am able to stay solvent, would you say brilliant is a good level to train the second keeper to before selling?

JFiz:
I didn't know that 17s train faster then 18s who train faster then 19s... if you look at hattrix it says that it takes X amount of weeks for a 17-19 year old and then you add a week for every year older then 19 he is.

That's exactly why I asked. I had read what you had as well and also heard what RH had said from some other source, so I was hoping the vets here could set me straight.

[damnMikeBrown]

The same thing happened to me when I was keeper training. Debts & interest payments began to mount. I knew, however, that for each week of training on the keeper I was going to sell, that the $$ increase per training was far outweighing the interest compiling.

The sweet spot comes at outstanding+, where prices begin to jump up around $900k or so per level. You've already trained him through the low pay-off period. Time to let that investment work for you. . .It'll be the same 6 weeks you train your new trainee, only this time the payoff for it will be $900k per pop, solid-exc-formid which is around what? $300k then $700k pops?

Stick with the guy you have, work him higher. Then buy a trainee that's past the measley return stage.

[JAG]

True enough. Maybe the right move would be to let trainee 2 get to brilliant, sell, get better coach and new outstanding trainee, build him up to brilliant or higher, then sell and start the new training program. Granted it'll take a little while...but that's alright. :)

Thanks for the advice.

[Mr. Wednesday]

I didn't know that 17s train faster then 18s who train faster then 19s... if you look at hattrix it says that it takes X amount of weeks for a 17-19 year old and then you add a week for every year older then 19 he is.Neither is accurate. It's not a full week more at 20.

With a solid coach, it takes about 5 weeks per level at 18 and 19. At 20, it may take five or six weeks, although it is more often six weeks than five.

[figofamz]

i have the same thing in mind tellisto. I think it is now better to keep one of your trainees till it hits something big like supernatural but doing this we may need to train them beyond the age of 20 or so. Im also doing this because i once read somewhere here that to get a MLS hattrick team it is best to train one area and let that be the best area then upgrade another. Here is a question i have for the future though, i currently have a solid poor coach who is fond of attacking, after im done training keepers i might switch to scoring does this mean i have to change keepers too because i would wana boost my defensive rating right? Or maybe by then his poor will have dropped to wretched or something?

[Tellistto]

I assume you mean change coach, not keeper. What you should do is look around for a player with passable+ experience and passable+ leadership that can play for your team and buy them and wait until they pop to at least solid experience so that you can turn them into your new coach. This will save a ton of money compared to buying one externally, and help greatly with TS management.

Tell

[figofamz]

true ill start looking. jk i have no damn money to buy anyone at the moment.