Anyone already bored by the football season?

[HighandOutside]

Television is destroying football. There are far too many commercial timeouts. People complain about baseball, but a football game now easily takes over 3 1/2 hours to complete. I simply cannot watch two teams I don't care about any longer. In fact, I can barely make it through games in which teams I do care about are playing (MSU and the Detroit Lions)....Thank goodness we have another month of baseball.

[sachmo71]

No, I'm still enjoying it. Since there are something like 200 channels on my digital cable, I can always find something else to flip to during commercials, or I open a magazine.

Now baseball...I don't like it, commericals or no. :D

[MIJB#19]

The real losers are the fans in the stadiums, wondering why the game they're attending is on hold, watching the fat guy with his orange gloves, talking with a zebra-suit and seeing kiss-for-a-price on the big screens.

[FBPro]

Huh? U kidding me? Bored of football? Gotta be joking........sounds like you need a good heavy dose of Ritalin. :)

[Maple Leafs]

No.

If you NFL season came in liquid form, I would buy a drip bag and hook it into my vein.

[sachmo71]

No.

If you NFL season came in liquid form, I would buy a drip bag and hook it into my vein.

Word, dog. Word.

And I would use baseball to cleanse my colon.

[FrogMan]

No.

If you NFL season came in liquid form, I would buy a drip bag and hook it into my vein.
oh, absolutely, so well said my fellow northerner...

FM

[JAG]

That was a very exciting first game to the season, if a bit mistake-filled by both teams. I never get bored with football season. I actually enjoy commercials, as it gives me a chance to get something done during the course of a game.

[Dutch]

I admit that Free Agency has killed a lot of my recognition of certain teams. At least beyond the super stars that it. I know it helps make everybody average and that's good (an unfortunate neccessity really) but Corey Dillon should be a Cincinnati Bengal, not a hired hand of the New England Patriots.

So that part pisses me off a little, but football is still football, great catches are still great catches, bull rushes and QB squashes are still sacks, blind side bell ringers and awesome jaw-dropping hits are still momentum turning exciting hits....

And beer, pretzel's, and BBQ is still a great thing to enjoy on a cold crisp Sunday in October.

[JimboJ]

Man, if you were bored by that game last night, you're just not a football fan!

And the game finished in exactly 3 hrs - that's how long football games have taken as long as I've been watching. Are some games longer than others? Sure, but that's nothing new either.

[WSUCougar]

That was a very exciting first game to the season, if a bit mistake-filled by both teams. I never get bored with football season. I actually enjoy commercials, as it gives me a chance to get something done during the course of a game.
What the Distinguished Cowboy Fan said.

[scooper]

but Corey Dillon should be a Cincinnati Bengal, not a hired hand of the New England Patriots.


No he shouldn't. They are a better team for having lost him. Wait and see.

[HighandOutside]

The real losers are the fans in the stadiums, wondering why the game they're attending is on hold, watching the fat guy with his orange gloves, talking with a zebra-suit and seeing kiss-for-a-price on the big screens.

I agree. I was at a Pittsburgh Steeler exhibition game recently and the commercials just sucked the life out of the stadium. By late in the 3rd quarter all the folks who had enjoyed the tailgates before the game were nodding off.

Impression of watching 20 minutes of the game last night...eleven guys smash into each other. Someone falls. A replay is needed for the average fan to figure out exactly what happened (did the safety get blocked? did the left guard miss his block on the defensive end? etc). Banter from the announcers as teams come up with another play to run. Another play...wait...offsides....move the ball backward another 5 yards. Another huddle. More banter. They line-up. Smash into each other. A gain of 2. Another huddle. Announcers talk about an upcoming ABC sitcom. Play is ready. they line-up. INTERCEPTION. Need a replay to find out what the hell happened. TV time-out.....

[scooper]

No, I think it was the fact that it was a Pittsburgh game that sucked the life out of it.

[Ben E Lou]

Anyone already bored by the football season?Girlie-man liberal weenie cat-loving communist.

[Ben E Lou]

Dola:

This may be grounds for a banning.

[HighandOutside]

Girlie-man liberal weenie cat-loving communist.

Oh...is this how the game is played?

Right-wing, fascist-sympathizing, boorish, meat-head….. :D

[JonInMiddleGA]

Television is destroying football.

Hell, I was fairly bored by the NFL long before this season began.

It isn't the length of the games, or the number of commercials, it's just not
all that interesting to me. There simply are too few teams that I care anything about, and even those barely qualify as anything beyond passing interest.

[FrogMan]

I agree. I was at a Pittsburgh Steeler exhibition game recently and the commercials just sucked the life out of the stadium. By late in the 3rd quarter all the folks who had enjoyed the tailgates before the game were nodding off.
And you do know that an exhibition game isn't the best time to get a good impression on what an NFL game is like, right? By late in the 3rd quarter, you're usually down to the 7th stringers on both offense and defense, with no other goal in the game, other than trying to impress the coach, not really win the game...

FM

[Butter]

I was more interested in the Mizzou - Troy St. game last night than the Colts - Pats. But I'll get into the Bengal games.

[HighandOutside]

And you do know that an exhibition game isn't the best time to get a good impression on what an NFL game is like, right? By late in the 3rd quarter, you're usually down to the 7th stringers on both offense and defense, with no other goal in the game, other than trying to impress the coach, not really win the game...

FM

Of course I understand. I've gone to many Steeler games since moving to Pittsburgh and I had MSU season tickets for 7 years. Maybe its a product of age ,but I am simply finding myself completely uninterested in football. I used to like all sports, but I can't watch football or basketball any longer. I now follow baseball religiously and...you'll love this...I follow the English Premier league during the winter.

[Honolulu_Blue]

In fact, I can barely make it through games in which teams I do care about are playing (MSU and the Detroit Lions)....Thank goodness we have another month of baseball.

Another Sparty. I would hate footbal too if my college team lost to Rutgers. :D

[HighandOutside]

Another Sparty. I would hate footbal too if my college team lost to Rutgers. :D

You may have a point.... :eek:

[FrogMan]

Of course I understand. I've gone to many Steeler games since moving to Pittsburgh and I had MSU season tickets for 7 years. Maybe its a product of age ,but I am simply finding myself completely uninterested in football. I used to like all sports, but I can't watch football or basketball any longer. I now follow baseball religiously and...you'll love this...I follow the English Premier league during the winter.
I see, question of changing interests maybe, just like I have a very hard time watching more than 5 minutes of any NHL hockey anymore, which is almost seen as a sin where I'm from...

FM

[Samdari]

I agree. I was at a Pittsburgh Steeler exhibition game recently and the commercials just sucked the life out of the stadium. By late in the 3rd quarter all the folks who had enjoyed the tailgates before the game were nodding off.


Seeing as though the peak of 'life' in a stadium during an exhibition game is less than the amount present during breaks of a real game, I'd say this is a poor example. Commercials don't suck the life out of preseason games, it is the camp fodder playing against camp fodder which does that.

[Icy]

I see, question of changing interests maybe, just like I have a very hard time watching more than 5 minutes of any NHL hockey anymore, which is almost seen as a sin where I'm from...

FM

The same happened me about european football (soccer), in Spain soccer is like religion, every man must love soccer, every kid at school plays soccer and talk about soccer, etc etc. I'm a Real Madrid fan since i was a kid, i have been at their stadium to enjoy lots of games, etc etc....but now i'm bored of soccer. In the other hand football is all excitement for me, i really love it, the contact, the strategies, the teamwork, damn i love it. My wife and friends don't underestand me, why do i like that bored sport that is stopped every minute? how could i know about players, teams etc if in Spain the nfl is only seen at paid satellite channels? (just had to convince again my wife to pay for the satellite channel this year again to enjoy football).

In Spain football is not followed at all, even a great team like the Barcelona Dragons had to disappear because not enought public at the field. Luckily things seems to be changing since last year and now we can at leats enjoy 3 live games per week, flag is starting to be played a lot at schools, etc and all thanks to some ex Barcelona Dragons players who want to promote football here. I only wish i could enjoy also college football so i would enjoy even more playing TCY. Well at least i have places like FOFC where i can enjoy talking about football and learning a lot from you guys :)

[Senator]

I enjoyed the game, I always do. I could live without the pre-game crap and skipped it. During the commercials, which were annoying, yes, I got up and went to the bathroom, or got something to eat or drink, or checked in with the wife in another part of the house, ect. ect.

[Crapshoot]

American Football is a poor companion to baseball - now, that's a sport.

[scooper]

American Football is a poor companion to baseball - now, that's a sport.
Is it groundhog day?:D

[Crapshoot]

Is it groundhog day?:D

Hey, I like American football, but sports that rank above it overall quality:
Baseball, Cricket, Football (not goddamn soccer- its football!) to name a few...

[rkmsuf]

Hey, I like American football, but sports that rank above it overall quality:
Baseball, Cricket, Football (not goddamn soccer- its football!) to name a few...

Cricket :rolleyes:

[FrogMan]

American Football is a poor companion to baseball - now, that's a sport.
Hey, I like American football, but sports that rank above it overall quality:
Baseball, Cricket, Football (not goddamn soccer- its football!) to name a few...
Woah, to each their own, I guess...

FM

[FBPro]

Hey, I like American football, but sports that rank above it overall quality:
Baseball........ to name a few...

In WHAT universe? Yeah I love the way MLB is run, GREAT job. :rolleyes: Keeps my interest a good 5 or 10 minutes.

[Crapshoot]

In WHAT universe? Yeah I love the way MLB is run, GREAT job. :rolleyes: Keeps my interest a good 5 or 10 minutes.

I think Selig is a turd muncher, but given that the NFL is more interested in forced parity, the general form of baseball is far more appealing to me. Yes, you have the Yanks (who even us die hard capitalists want to restrict), but it makes for far more styles in contrast. Most knee jerk fans love "parity" - and will never acknowledge that baseball has more parity then they like, albeit without the crapshoot nature of the NFL.

[Crapshoot]

Cricket :rolleyes:

Im Indian man- I grew up with it. There's no rivalry in the world like India-Pakistan.

[rkmsuf]

Im Indian man- I grew up with it. There's no rivalry in the world like India-Pakistan.

I'll defer to you on all matters cricket.

[sachmo71]

Most knee jerk fans love "parity" - and will never acknowledge that baseball has more parity then they like, albeit without the crapshoot nature of the NFL.

Knee jerk fans of which sport?

[Eaglesfan27]

I heart football and am very glad the season has started. There is always FOFC to read during the commercial breaks.

[HighandOutside]

Im Indian man- I grew up with it. There's no rivalry in the world like India-Pakistan.

I watched the India-Pakistan cricket matches at a theater here in Pittsburgh. Some students at a local college rented out the space...it was a blast. I learned a lot about the sport and truly enjoyed it.

[FrogMan]

I heart football and am very glad the season has started. There is always FOFC to read during the commercial breaks.
exactly what I did last night, that and checking how my fantasy teams were doing on the various live scoring sites... Yeah, I'm an addict, please but don't cure me doc :D

FM

[Samdari]

Hey, I like American football, but sports that rank above it overall quality:
Baseball, Cricket, Soccer, Grass Growing to name a few...

I don't know, all of these seem pretty slow paced to me.

[Desnudo]

"Anyone already bored by the football season?"

A call has been placed to the Homeland Security Department that an Al Queda sleeper cell may have been activated.

[Eaglesfan27]

exactly what I did last night, that and checking how my fantasy teams were doing on the various live scoring sites... Yeah, I'm an addict, please but don't cure me doc :D

FM
I'm an addict too, so I certainly couldn't try to cure you as I would be a bad example ;)

[Crapshoot]

I watched the India-Pakistan cricket matches at a theater here in Pittsburgh. Some students at a local college rented out the space...it was a blast. I learned a lot about the sport and truly enjoyed it.

I was probably in the room - at CMU right ?

[FrogMan]

I'm an addict too, so I certainly couldn't try to cure you as I would be a bad example ;)
perfect example of "do as I say, not as I do" ;)

FM

[Crapshoot]

I don't know, all of these seem pretty slow paced to me.

I dunno- there's something to be said for people with longer than 15 second attention spans... :D

[FBPro]

I think Selig is a turd muncher, but given that the NFL is more interested in forced parity, the general form of baseball is far more appealing to me. Yes, you have the Yanks (who even us die hard capitalists want to restrict), but it makes for far more styles in contrast. Most knee jerk fans love "parity" - and will never acknowledge that baseball has more parity then they like, albeit without the crapshoot nature of the NFL.

Forced parity, what the salary cap? Well, if baseball doesn't do something about this they can give up being of interest to everyone except NYC and the sheep who follow THAT team. What a joke. The NFL realizes that some sort of ceiling is needed and have put one in place, not that it is perfect but sure makes more sense that have a few teams have 200, 500, 700M payrolls like some MLB owners would probably have if things go on. And as far as being a crapshoot it isn't it's just that with a much shorter season one or two games can make a much greater difference than they do in baseball. Hey to each his own each year and have less and less interest in baseball and it is doubtful that the trend will change for me anyway.

[Crapshoot]

Forced parity, what the salary cap? Well, if baseball doesn't do something about this they can give up being of interest to everyone except NYC and the sheep who follow THAT team. What a joke. The NFL realizes that some sort of ceiling is needed and have put one in place, not that it is perfect but sure makes more sense that have a few teams have 200, 500, 700M payrolls like some MLB owners would probably have if things go on. And as far as being a crapshoot it isn't it's just that with a much shorter season one or two games can make a much greater difference than they do in baseball. Hey to each his own each year and have less and less interest in baseball and it is doubtful that the trend will change for me anyway.

See, this is exactly what Im referring to. Baseball is plenty interesting to me now, and to plently of people around the country and around the world - calling everyone who follows it sheep is not only stupid, but ignorant. The NFL realizes that its fans want crapshoots, set up so that every year some "Cinderella' with a powder puff schedule can waltz through- no thanks. MLB payrolls are a direct reflection of what the market gives them- for what its worth, the average NFL payroll is higher than the average MLB payroll- not that it should make a wit of difference to you or I. Payroll ceilings are an artifical constraint that seems to set up a 0 zero sum game, that penalizes intelligent franchises in favor of idiotic ones. Baseball is an amazing, amazing sport, that IMO, is a far more high-brow game- and I enjoy that, and I recognize that it makes me a minority on this board. American Football is great, but my perspective is that it appeals more to the lowest common denominator - and while there is nothing wrong with that, its not something I enjoy as much.

[sachmo71]

I think I just saw someone say that baseball is high-brow.

Yahting, sure.
Indy racing, I'll bite.

Baseball? Seriously?

[rkmsuf]

I think I just saw someone say that baseball is high-brow.

Yahting, sure.
Indy racing, I'll bite.

Baseball? Seriously?


Try watching it while drinking a martini...very shi-shi.

[sachmo71]

Try watching it while drinking a martini...very shi-shi.


Maybe I should try reciting poetry while sitting in the home run porch with the mullets and other classy types.

[rkmsuf]

There is a certain element that consider themselves high society because they can calcuate WHIP and wax poetic about Walter Johnson.

[sachmo71]

There is a certain element that consider themselves high society because they can calcuate WHIP and wax poetic about Walter Johnson.

F'in elitists!

[Crapshoot]

High brow as in a more intelligent game- my thoughts. But hey, whatever floats your boat.

[scooper]

calling everyone who follows it sheep is not only stupid, but ignorant.
Yet it's OK to make generalizations about football fans, calling them "knee jerk" fans.

[Crapshoot]

Yet it's OK to make generalizations about football fans, calling them "knee jerk" fans.

no, I was characterizing a particular group- which may or may not have some overlap with football fans. Knee jerk was the wrong choice of words- but there is certainly a great group that fits the characteristics I described.

[sachmo71]

High brow as in a more intelligent game- my thoughts. But hey, whatever floats your boat.


Baseball is more intelligent than football.
Do you mean the fans? Blue collar sport to blue collar sport.

Or the players? I don't think either sport would be head and shoulders above the other

Or the coaches? See above.

Or the rules? NO!!!!!

Baseball is cleaner then football, and slower than football, but I don't see it being more intellgent.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Baseball is an amazing, amazing sport, that IMO, is a far more high-brow game- and I enjoy that, and I recognize that it makes me a minority on this board. American Football is great, but my perspective is that it appeals more to the lowest common denominator - and while there is nothing wrong with that, its not something I enjoy as much.

Great, here you & I go agreeing on something.

That ought to shake up the world a bit.

[rufusjonz]

Television is destroying football. There are far too many commercial timeouts. People complain about baseball, but a football game now easily takes over 3 1/2 hours to complete. I simply cannot watch two teams I don't care about any longer.

I totally agree, been saying this for a while, the other main factor that is so annoying and awful is the NUMBER OF PENALTY FLAGS IN A GAME -- slows down the game so fucking much! That new receiver bump rule was called how many times last night??? And the NFL referees keep getting worse and worse, a bunch of old men with slow reflexes ... The only thing that makes most games interesting is betting and Fantasy Football.

That is why the English Premier League (and any good soccer in general) rules...45 minutes halves, no commercials, very few stoppages, just a beautiful flow, 15 minute halftime.

[Crapshoot]

Baseball is more intelligent than football.
Do you mean the fans? Blue collar sport to blue collar sport.

Or the players? I don't think either sport would be head and shoulders above the other

Or the coaches? See above.

Or the rules? NO!!!!!

Baseball is cleaner then football, and slower than football, but I don't see it being more intellgent.

Valid point- let me expound on what Im saying. I believe football fundementally, to be a test of physical skill, and more based on sheer athleticism than anything else- although athleticism or size clearly arent enough by themselves. I believe football is fairly straighforward, and never lends itself to purely individual matchups in a way baseball does. I believe by and large, the analysis and understanding of football, on a factual basis, is nowhere near the level it is in baseball. I believe baseball to be as much of a mental game as a physical one, if only because the forced tendency towards individual matchups in a team context mean there's more at stake for each person- its not easy to hide someone. I think baseball by and large is a more patient game, and I appreciate that. I believe baseball is ultimately a game where brute strength is simply not as important as it is football. I would believe that baseball players, on average, tend to be smarter than their football counterparts (qb and perhaps the OL being an exception) because I think the task involved in hitting a ball is simply harder. I do like American football- one of the greatest moments I ever remember is being at both of the 49ers playoff wins with no time left (the Owens catch, and the Giants meltdown) and screaming like a banshee. As a sport, as an organization, I think the NFL is simply not as interesting (to me).

[Crapshoot]

Great, here you & I go agreeing on something.

That ought to shake up the world a bit.

Hey, we agree on plenty- next time a discussion on economics or taxes comes up, you and I will be in the same corner. Foreign policy may lead to some differences, but we share similar goals.

[rkmsuf]

Valid point- let me expound on what Im saying. I believe football fundementally, to be a test of physical skill, and more based on sheer athleticism than anything else- although athleticism or size clearly arent enough by themselves. I believe football is fairly straighforward, and never lends itself to purely individual matchups in a way baseball does. I believe by and large, the analysis and understanding of football, on a factual basis, is nowhere near the level it is in baseball. I believe baseball to be as much of a mental game as a physical one, if only because the forced tendency towards individual matchups in a team context mean there's more at stake for each person- its not easy to hide someone. I think baseball by and large is a more patient game, and I appreciate that. I believe baseball is ultimately a game where brute strength is simply not as important as it is football. I would believe that baseball players, on average, tend to be smarter than their football counterparts (qb and perhaps the OL being an exception) because I think the task involved in hitting a ball is simply harder. I do like American football- one of the greatest moments I ever remember is being at both of the 49ers playoff wins with no time left (the Owens catch, and the Giants meltdown) and screaming like a banshee. As a sport, as an organization, I think the NFL is simply not as interesting (to me).

uh, if you say so.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Foreign policy may lead to some differences, but we share similar goals.

True dat, but when we disagree, it's often a doozy :D

Which is why agreeing on something as important as the superior entertainment value of baseball over football surprised me a little -- it's often "the big things" that you & I differ on ;)

[Crapshoot]

True dat, but when we disagree, it's often a doozy :D

Which is why agreeing on something as important as the superior entertainment value of baseball over football surprised me a little -- it's often "the big things" that you & I differ on ;)

Hey- Im glad we both appreciate quality - us baseball first people are a minority around these parts. :D

[sachmo71]

Valid point- let me expound on what Im saying. I believe football fundementally, to be a test of physical skill, and more based on sheer athleticism than anything else- although athleticism or size clearly arent enough by themselves. I believe football is fairly straighforward, and never lends itself to purely individual matchups in a way baseball does. I believe by and large, the analysis and understanding of football, on a factual basis, is nowhere near the level it is in baseball. I believe baseball to be as much of a mental game as a physical one, if only because the forced tendency towards individual matchups in a team context mean there's more at stake for each person- its not easy to hide someone. I think baseball by and large is a more patient game, and I appreciate that. I believe baseball is ultimately a game where brute strength is simply not as important as it is football. I would believe that baseball players, on average, tend to be smarter than their football counterparts (qb and perhaps the OL being an exception) because I think the task involved in hitting a ball is simply harder. I do like American football- one of the greatest moments I ever remember is being at both of the 49ers playoff wins with no time left (the Owens catch, and the Giants meltdown) and screaming like a banshee. As a sport, as an organization, I think the NFL is simply not as interesting (to me).

Thanks for the explination.

I do think you may be missing some points on football regarding the amount of intelligence required by the player, and the amount of individual battles that occur in an single game.

Also, I don't think that athletic ability and strength being the main component of a contest makes the players less intelligent. On the average, I'll bet most of the players have the same INTELLIGENCE level.

[sachmo71]

Dola,

And I don't think that the skill required to hit a baseball is intelligence. Unless reflex can be considered intelligence. :D

[HighandOutside]

For me, and I am just speaking for me, I find baseball more cerebral. It is slow enough to think along with, but it is also very fast paced if you know what you are looking for. I love baseball because I think I fully understand the game and its many subtleties and tactics. After a game of baseball I can give you a detailed review of exactly what happened. I can recount nuances down to how each batter was pitched to and how a ground ball in the 4th which wasn’t turned into a double play contributed to an already tired pitcher giving up 3 runs in the inning.

I can’t say the same thing about football. To me, a play happens much too quickly and I never know exactly what happened. After a football game I can speak in generalities – “the running game was really working”, “the pass defense was poor” – but I can’t give you a detailed rundown of how the left tackle played. I can’t watch every match up on the field so I always feel like I just am aware of the obvious. “Ohh look! there goes the UM half-back breaking through the MSU defensive line for a 40 yard gain.” Until I see a replay 3 times I don’t fully know how it happened.

For me, and again, only for me, football is just as slow paced as baseball. There are many stoppages and the action is often just bunch confusion where what sticks out is really the least important part of the play. When a running back breaks through the line of scrimmage that is really the consequence of something much more important that happened seconds beforehand that I missed (e.g. the center got a good block on a MLB who was off balance and getting ready to play pass defense)…I never see the really important stuff until some commentator circles it for me on the 3rd showing of the instant replay. I’ve never actually “seen” the offensive holding call that always kills an MSU offensive drive until I see the replay.

Finally, I can think along with a baseball manager down to a very detailed level. I know the status of the bullpen and I know the strengths and weaknesses of many of the players. With football, only in a very general way do I understand the teams. I know some guys are good running backs and I know some guys are good defenders, but I can’t exactly tell you why or how they are good like I can in baseball.

Anyways, my 2 cents.

[Crapshoot]

Thanks for the explination.

I do think you may be missing some points on football regarding the amount of intelligence required by the player, and the amount of individual battles that occur in an single game.

Also, I don't think that athletic ability and strength being the main component of a contest makes the players less intelligent. On the average, I'll bet most of the players have the same INTELLIGENCE level.

I think you're confusing the causility that Im arguing in the second paragraph- Im suggesting that because intelligence is not as important, the tendency is not to look for it as much- while in baseball, it almost certainly makes up a great proportion. It may welll be a selection bias to a great extent.

[Kodos]

I TIVO'd the game last night. Zipped through the entire thing in about 2.5 hours.

Kodos - 1
Advertisers - 0

Now if I can get away with doing that for the Super Bowl this year.

[Crapshoot]

Dola,

And I don't think that the skill required to hit a baseball is intelligence. Unless reflex can be considered intelligence. :D

Agreed- but recognition, which is of primary importance, is a reflection of what you know and how well you learn.

[rkmsuf]

Agreed- but recognition, which is of primary importance, is a reflection of what you know and how well you learn.

which is a primary skill in football

[Crapshoot]

There is a certain element that consider themselves high society because they can calcuate WHIP and wax poetic about Walter Johnson.

There is a certain element that consider themself low brow because they drink enough Bud Light.

[sachmo71]

There is a certain element that consider themself low brow because they drink enough Bud Light.

I don't drink anymore, and I consider myself lowbrow. But that's because I'm from New Orleans. :(

[rkmsuf]

I don't drink anymore, and I consider myself lowbrow. But that's because I'm from New Orleans. :(

Don't sell yourself short. You're a tremendous slouch.

[Bad-example]

I'm an addict too, so I certainly couldn't try to cure you as I would be a bad example ;)

Pfft...you wish. :)

[Gallifrey]

I can't get enough football. During the TV timeouts I read about football. Study playbooks. Plan my next game to watch. Realize how much I hate baseball.

In fact I think this Monday should be a national holiday because the Packers on on Monday Night Football. Now I'm fired up just thinking about it.

[BigJohn&TheLions]

Im Indian man- I grew up with it. There's no rivalry in the world like India-Pakistan.

Never saw a game, but I bet it was like USA vs USSR. Nothing adds to a rivalry like having nuclear missles aimed at each other... :D

[Sun Tzu]

No.

If you NFL season came in liquid form, I would buy a drip bag and hook it into my vein.

ditto.

[duckman]

For me, there is nothing like football (college or pro). May God bless football forever!!!! :D

[Tom E]

Television is destroying football. There are far too many commercial timeouts. People complain about baseball, but a football game now easily takes over 3 1/2 hours to complete. I simply cannot watch two teams I don't care about any longer. In fact, I can barely make it through games in which teams I do care about are playing (MSU and the Detroit Lions)....Thank goodness we have another month of baseball.

You may be a homosexual....

[duckman]

You may be a homosexual....
That's harsh.

[Samdari]

I dunno- there's something to be said for people with longer than 15 second attention spans... :D

I don't know, its the regular periods of 45 minutes where absolutely nothing happens that get to me. Buy, hey, if you enjoy those, knock yourself out.

[Crapshoot]

Never saw a game, but I bet it was like USA vs USSR. Nothing adds to a rivalry like having nuclear missles aimed at each other... :D

yup- add people like me (both my grandmothers were born and raised in what is now Pakistan - thanks to the seperation) and a whole generation of people who remember a united country, plus a partition that has loose religious affiliations, and consider that elections are won and lost on the result- you've got it. It really is something else. .. :D

[Crapshoot]

I don't know, its the regular periods of 45 minutes where absolutely nothing happens that get to me. Buy, hey, if you enjoy those, knock yourself out.

I never got this, and never do now- there's always something happening- I dont recall the 45 min where nothing goes on- but this seems awfully similar to the "they dont score often enough" arguement I've heard against soccer.

[wade moore]

I TIVO'd the game last night. Zipped through the entire thing in about 2.5 hours.

Kodos - 1
Advertisers - 0

Now if I can get away with doing that for the Super Bowl this year.

Ditto.

[wade moore]

I totally agree, been saying this for a while, the other main factor that is so annoying and awful is the NUMBER OF PENALTY FLAGS IN A GAME -- slows down the game so fucking much! That new receiver bump rule was called how many times last night??? And the NFL referees keep getting worse and worse, a bunch of old men with slow reflexes ... The only thing that makes most games interesting is betting and Fantasy Football.

That is why the English Premier League (and any good soccer in general) rules...45 minutes halves, no commercials, very few stoppages, just a beautiful flow, 15 minute halftime.

I have to jump in here to correct someone AGAIN...

This is NOT a new rule.

This is the same rule they have had for years, it is just actually being enforced consistently now.

[Logan]

Another Sparty. I would hate footbal too if my college team lost to Rutgers. :D

More proof as to why I should search "Rutgers" on a daily basis to find any sly insults about my squad.

Assholes :).

OT: Anybody going to the RU-New Hampshire game today? It better be a blow-out, but I hear NH's offensive scheme is fun to watch. Blue lot, 2PM, be there!

[wade moore]

New Hampshire is fun to watch. But PLEASE beat our (W&M) conference foe. After they upset Deleware, I'm a bit concerned that they are better than years past.

[Danny]

When I take survey's... under religion... I write in football.

[Samdari]

I never got this, and never do now- there's always something happening- I dont recall the 45 min where nothing goes on- but this seems awfully similar to the "they dont score often enough" arguement I've heard against soccer.

I guess if you consider guys passing back and forth to each other for 5 minutes straight nowhere near a threat to score, then kicking it to the other team, followed by the other team doing the same thing "something happening" then, technically, you would be correct, there is always something happening. If one were to consider that "nothing happening" as I do, then for most of a soccer game, nothing happens.

[rkmsuf]

I guess if you consider guys passing back and forth to each other for 5 minutes straight nowhere near a threat to score, then kicking it to the other team, followed by the other team doing the same thing "something happening" then, technically, you would be correct, there is always something happening. If one were to consider that "nothing happening" as I do, then for most of a soccer game, nothing happens.

It's boring enough that fans have to invent chants and songs to keep them from falling asleep.

In other parts of the world fans have to fight and engage in pugilism to keep it interesting.

[Crapshoot]

I guess if you consider guys passing back and forth to each other for 5 minutes straight nowhere near a threat to score, then kicking it to the other team, followed by the other team doing the same thing "something happening" then, technically, you would be correct, there is always something happening. If one were to consider that "nothing happening" as I do, then for most of a soccer game, nothing happens.

nice way to show how much of the game you know/watch. I suppose hitting for 30 sec, than taking a 30 sec break is more your style.

Ah hell, I've never understood the general American antipathy towards football- more and more, Im liable to throw my lot in with the attention span crowd.

[Desnudo]

There is a certain element that consider themselves high society because they can calcuate WHIP and wax poetic about Walter Johnson.

I consider the ability to double-fist Bud Lights while chanting "Yankees Suck!" in the Fenway bleachers to be the high point of our civilization.

[Samdari]

nice way to show how much of the game you know/watch. I suppose hitting for 30 sec, than taking a 30 sec break is more your style.

Ah hell, I've never understood the general American antipathy towards football- more and more, Im liable to throw my lot in with the attention span crowd.

I can pay attention for hours, if something were to actually happen.

[ISiddiqui]

While I'm not bored by the football season, I agree with some of the sentiments of the original post. Fox was going NUTS with the commericals. After every little thing, another commerical. It was ridiculous! Though I guess when you pay that much for the NFL, you need to recoup that money somehow.

I also have to agree that Baseball PWNS Football. It's just a superior sport. YMMV, of course.

And Aadik, I do have to agree that American antipathy for soccer is crazy. This idea that nothing happens and no one scores is an incredibly ignorant view. I'd like to take them to an Arsenal game and then ask them if they think nothing happens.

[HighandOutside]

One of the trips I am planning in the next few years is to watch Man City rip apart Man United. That is, if Man City doesn't get relegated before I can make the trip... :(

[ISiddiqui]

Hopefully not. I do enjoy seeing a team with Anelka, Wright-Phillips, and Reyna together :D.

[TroyF]

nice way to show how much of the game you know/watch. I suppose hitting for 30 sec, than taking a 30 sec break is more your style.

Ah hell, I've never understood the general American antipathy towards football- more and more, Im liable to throw my lot in with the attention span crowd.


Sorry, you completely mis-generalize American football and are instulted when someone does the same to the EPL.

I like soccer, I like it a lot.

Football? I love it. Can't get enough of it. College, HS, Pro. . . it just doesn't matter. It's more of a thinking mans game than you make it out to be. There are one on one battles all over the field. Decisions have to be made in an instant on the field and adjustments are constantly being made, even in the middle of a series.

I'll take Amercian football anyday of the week.

[Crapshoot]

Sorry, you completely mis-generalize American football and are instulted when someone does the same to the EPL.

I like soccer, I like it a lot.

Football? I love it. Can't get enough of it. College, HS, Pro. . . it just doesn't matter. It's more of a thinking mans game than you make it out to be. There are one on one battles all over the field. Decisions have to be made in an instant on the field and adjustments are constantly being made, even in the middle of a series.

I'll take Amercian football anyday of the week.

Troy,
I've watched a lot of american football, and I've certainly enjoyed it- where exactly did I generalize except in response ? I argued why I thought baseball was a better game, and I listed the games I prefered to it. Samidari started that particular tone.

[ISiddiqui]

Sorry, you completely mis-generalize American football and are instulted when someone does the same to the EPL.

The difference being the Aadik always prefaced his statements with that is his personal belief. While those arguing against soccer are stating against it generally and are not saying it is just their beliefs and others can disagree.