Changing Coaches

[Hiddnfox]

the whole coach thing still bothers me and for some reason i am having a hard time grasping onto it, so I have a few questions about coaching.

my coach looks like this:
A weak trainer who is defensive minded
A nasty fellow who is calm and righteous.
Has solid experience and inadequate leadership abilities.

what is it that really effects my players?

does a weak trainer not train my players as fast?

what difference does experience make compared to leadership?

I am thinking about replacing him, can i browse the coaching market before i choose to fire him?

doesnt solid experience count for something? i started hattrick mid season last season and would ilke some input on wether or not i should start season 24 with new coaching blood.

thanks

[Masked]

The weak trainer means he trains your players very slowly. The trainer skill is by far the most important characteristic of a coach.

Experience is basically irrelevant for coaches. It is critical for players that you want to turn into a coach. When converting, a player can only have a trainer skill less than or equal to his current experience level.

Leadership determines how well the coach is able to maintain elevated team spirit. If you PIC with a solid coach, your team spirit will remain higher for longer. If you PIC with poor leadership coach, team spirit will drop rapidly back to where it was prior to the match (and consequently, PIC with a poor coach is basically pointless). Leadership is the second most important factor for your coach.

There is no coaches market.

You should buy (i.e. external recruiting) a passable (~$70K) or solid (~$270K) coach with poor leadership. Chose the passable if you don't have a lot of money. Adding leadership gets very expensive, very quickly, and really isn't worth it at this point. Getting a solid training program started is far more valuable.

Eventually you will want a solid coach with passable or solid leadership. The best way to get one, is to buy a player with inad or better experience with passable or solid leadership. Play him as often as possible until he pops to solid experience. Then it cost only about 800K to turn him into a coach as opposed to recruiting one for over $1.5M.

[Vince]

I could be wrong (someone please correct me if I am), but I don't think that PIC's or MOTs' effects on TS are affected at all by the coach's leadership. The only thing a coach's leadership affects is the movement of TS towards neutral while the team is not playing.

[Masked]

I could be wrong (someone please correct me if I am), but I don't think that PIC's or MOTs' effects on TS are affected at all by the coach's leadership. The only thing a coach's leadership affects is the movement of TS towards neutral while the team is not playing.

Exactly - that is what I said or tried to say. Team spirit rises the same amount, no matter what your coach's leadership is. However, it will drop back down much faster if you have a coach with poor leadership, than it will with a coach with solid leadership. Therefore it makes no sense to PIC with a poor coach (except during the cup perhaps) because team spirit will drop all the way back down by the time the next match occurs.

[thenereus]

Even if you have a clown or semi clown on your team? It will still drop back to neutral in one week?

[Vince]

Sorry Masked...immediately upon reading it, I apparently forgot the line before 'consequently, PIC with a poor coach is basically pointless.'

thenereus - clown or semi-clown will help, but I think the coach's leadership is more important.

[Mr. Wednesday]

Even if you have a clown or semi clown on your team? It will still drop back to neutral in one week?No, you can still gain ground with wretched leadership and a semi-clown team leader, speaking from experience (notwithstanding the belief to the contrary in some quarters). I was still hitting delirious TS after my league match late in the season, and my TS had only fallen to content at game-time in my qually. That's with a normal in week 12 and a TS hit for a player acquisition, too.

[JAG]

Good to know, since that will be my precise situation for at least at the beginning of the year.

[shawn snow]

Speaking of semi-clown....is there any value on the TL for one?

[Raven Hawk]

Speaking of semi-clown....is there any value on the TL for one?
Not for a semi-clown. Real clowns go for $79500 . . . or at least that is the price that clown hoarders list their clowns for.

[shawn snow]

But they are a good thing to have if you don't have a clown right?

[terpkristin]

But they are a good thing to have if you don't have a clown right?

Well that really depends.
If you have any players with solid leadership, a real clown (popular with solid leadership) or semi-clown (sympathetic with solid leadership) may do absolutely nothing for you. It all comes down to whose "solid" leadership is a higher solid. Unfortunately, there's no real way to determine that.
A clown can help your team slightly--I've had one since I started (I was dealt one in my original players), though you're much better off getting a coach with good leadership for TS reasons.

~tk

[KevinNU7]

But they are a good thing to have if you don't have a clown right?
I have a semi-clown I will sell you for $10k if you want him.

[shawn snow]

Thanks Kev, but i already have one and I seem to keep YP them left and right but my TSI is only 160:(