lytic
12-05-2004, 06:00 PM
Ok, so a friend/coworker (who I finally got addicted to Hattrick) and I have wondered for some time if the match report statement of an injury to a player has any correlation to the severity of said injury. You have guys leaving from rough play, getting kicked, or even being carted off on stretchers, but are the statements telling you how long to expect your guy to be out or are they just random? We wondered.......
I took it upon myself yesterday to look at Wednesday's cup matches played in the USA, Canada, Mexico, Sweden (boy did that take some time), and Chile. Throw in a few friendlies for good measure, and I found 9 injury statements and 124 injuries. One guy in Sweden actually had 3 players injured in a cup loss, boy that's gotta hurt.
Here's what I've found so far, in order of average injury length (best to worst):
limped off the field and was replaced
Average injury length for this statement is 1.22 weeks. However, this only accounts for 7.26% of the injuries. No injuries over 2 weeks yet.
had to leave the pitch due to a knee injury
Average injury length for this statement is 1.46 weeks. By far the most common injury, with 28.23% of the 124 surveyed. Only 3 injuries were over 2 weeks in duration, with the max injury being only 3 weeks. Vast majority of injuries were listed as 1, but the players were already bruised and playing/training.
left the field because of a nasty blow to the shin
Average injury length for this statemtent is 1.71 weeks. 11.29% of the injuries used this statement. Majority of injuries were only 2 weeks, with just one lasting 3 weeks.
These first 3 statements accounted for almost half of all the injuries found.
couldn´t continue playing due to the rough treatment
Things start picking up as this statement averages 2.05 weeks. 16.13% of the injuries used this statement. 3 of the injuries were as high as 4 weeks, but several were 1 week in duration. Kind of a mixed pot.
had to be helped off the pitch, unable to finish the game
9.68% of the injuries used this statement, and last an average of 2.5 weeks. Several 1 weekers are in here, but so are 4-5-6 weekers. This is the first statement yet that involves injuries over 4 weeks.
the unlucky victim, couldn´t continue the game
Seems we're kicking it into high gear now, as this statement averages 3.27 weeks. A couple of one weekers in here, but more and more the injuries are 4 weeks or higher. 6 weeks is the highest.
had to be carried off on a stretcher in agony
This is the one I assumed would be the worst, but I was wrong. This statement is very rare, though, with only 4.03% of the 124 injuries using it. Average injury is 3.40 weeks. However, if this hits you, don't expect a walk in the park. None of the injuries have been less then 3 weeks in duration. None have been more then 4 weeks, either.
will have to do without…..for a time due to a bad foot injury
We're really getting to the statements that will make hopes for the season drop in your gut like a lead weight. While only 6.45% of the injuries, they average 3.88 weeks in duration. The range is 3-6 weeks.
being carried off the pitch and replaced
And here's the worst statement. 4.40 weeks injured on average, with the only 7 weeker in the survey. Again, no injury less then 3 weeks with half being 5 weeks or more. Fortunately this one is rare as well, with only 8.06% of the injuries coming in at this level.
Well, there you have it. I can't account for the age of these guys, the form, or the amount of physios on staff, but still.......I see a trend. At the very least I have an idea of injury severity when a guy goes down during a match. I hate waiting for the bad news.
Thoughts? I've never seen this subject broached in HT land before, so I'm curious.........
I took it upon myself yesterday to look at Wednesday's cup matches played in the USA, Canada, Mexico, Sweden (boy did that take some time), and Chile. Throw in a few friendlies for good measure, and I found 9 injury statements and 124 injuries. One guy in Sweden actually had 3 players injured in a cup loss, boy that's gotta hurt.
Here's what I've found so far, in order of average injury length (best to worst):
limped off the field and was replaced
Average injury length for this statement is 1.22 weeks. However, this only accounts for 7.26% of the injuries. No injuries over 2 weeks yet.
had to leave the pitch due to a knee injury
Average injury length for this statement is 1.46 weeks. By far the most common injury, with 28.23% of the 124 surveyed. Only 3 injuries were over 2 weeks in duration, with the max injury being only 3 weeks. Vast majority of injuries were listed as 1, but the players were already bruised and playing/training.
left the field because of a nasty blow to the shin
Average injury length for this statemtent is 1.71 weeks. 11.29% of the injuries used this statement. Majority of injuries were only 2 weeks, with just one lasting 3 weeks.
These first 3 statements accounted for almost half of all the injuries found.
couldn´t continue playing due to the rough treatment
Things start picking up as this statement averages 2.05 weeks. 16.13% of the injuries used this statement. 3 of the injuries were as high as 4 weeks, but several were 1 week in duration. Kind of a mixed pot.
had to be helped off the pitch, unable to finish the game
9.68% of the injuries used this statement, and last an average of 2.5 weeks. Several 1 weekers are in here, but so are 4-5-6 weekers. This is the first statement yet that involves injuries over 4 weeks.
the unlucky victim, couldn´t continue the game
Seems we're kicking it into high gear now, as this statement averages 3.27 weeks. A couple of one weekers in here, but more and more the injuries are 4 weeks or higher. 6 weeks is the highest.
had to be carried off on a stretcher in agony
This is the one I assumed would be the worst, but I was wrong. This statement is very rare, though, with only 4.03% of the 124 injuries using it. Average injury is 3.40 weeks. However, if this hits you, don't expect a walk in the park. None of the injuries have been less then 3 weeks in duration. None have been more then 4 weeks, either.
will have to do without…..for a time due to a bad foot injury
We're really getting to the statements that will make hopes for the season drop in your gut like a lead weight. While only 6.45% of the injuries, they average 3.88 weeks in duration. The range is 3-6 weeks.
being carried off the pitch and replaced
And here's the worst statement. 4.40 weeks injured on average, with the only 7 weeker in the survey. Again, no injury less then 3 weeks with half being 5 weeks or more. Fortunately this one is rare as well, with only 8.06% of the injuries coming in at this level.
Well, there you have it. I can't account for the age of these guys, the form, or the amount of physios on staff, but still.......I see a trend. At the very least I have an idea of injury severity when a guy goes down during a match. I hate waiting for the bad news.
Thoughts? I've never seen this subject broached in HT land before, so I'm curious.........