NFL Free Agency

[mhass]

Any Niners fans have an opinion on Cedric Wilson?

I don't believe I have ever heard of him before this signing and his size/speed make it sound like he is a Randle El clone--more quick and agile than downfield speedy. I was kind of hoping the Steelers could find some contrasting talent in FA and the draft, along the lines of one tall/possession type and one deep threat to go with Hines Ward and Randle El.
Not a niner's fan, but Wilson is decent. He's not Plex though.

[TazFTW]

Buccaneers resign Joey Galloway.

Darren Howard will sign his franchise tender. The Saints are still looking to trade him.

[mckerney]

KFAN reporting that the Vikings are close to resigning Jermaine Wiggins.

[Franklinnoble]

KFAN reporting that the Vikings are close to resigning Jermaine Wiggins.

Wonder what that means for Kleinsasser...

[mckerney]

Wonder what that means for Kleinsasser...

I don't think it means much for Kleinsasser, the Vikings will likely continue to run a 2 TE set most of the time next year. Wiggins wasn't nearly the blocker the team expected him to be when they brought him in though was a much better reciever, so the two likely aren't in competition for the same spot.

KFAN also reporting that a Viking official said that the team is currently in contract negotiations with Fred Smoot.

[Franklinnoble]

I don't think it means much for Kleinsasser, the Vikings will likely continue to run a 2 TE set most of the time next year. Wiggins wasn't nearly the blocker the team expected him to be when they brought him in though was a much better reciever, so the two likely aren't in competition for the same spot.

KFAN also reporting that a Viking official said that the team is currently in contract negotiations with Fred Smoot.

Fred Smoot still has a pretty good offer on the table from Washington. I would be shocked if Red McCombs is the man to beat it.

[mckerney]

Fred Smoot still has a pretty good offer on the table from Washington. I would be shocked if Red McCombs is the man to beat it.

I'm sure the deal would have to include the deal would include a delayed bonus much like Pat Williams recieved.

[mckerney]

Source: Vikings close to signing Smoot
Last Update: 3/8/2005 4:14:50 PM


KFAN dot com

The Vikings and free-agent cornerback Fred Smoot are close to reaching an agreement on a lucrative multiyear contract, a Vikings source told the FAN on Tuesday afternoon.

Smoot, a former second-round pick who played his first four seasons in Washington, rejected a contract offer from the Redskins last week that included a $10 million bonus.

Vikings vice president of football operations Rob Brzezinski, coach Mike Tice and other team officials were ironing out contract details with Smoot and his agent, James Cook, in a closed-door meeting at Winter Park, the source said. Smoot was scheduled to continue his free-agent tour on a flight Tuesday afternoon.

Smoot, considered one of the NFL's premier cover cornerbacks, has 182 tackles and 16 interceptions in 60 career games. He battled shoulder and back problems in 2004, but played in 15 games -- missing only the Redskins' victorious season finale against the Vikings.

The 25-year-old Mississippi State product also has had chest and knee injuries, playing in all 16 games just once in his four-year career.

In Minnesota, Smoot would play opposite Antoine Winfield, who signed a six-year, $35 million contract last March that included a $10.8 million bonus.

As of Tuesday afternoon, the Vikings were roughly $31 million under the salary cap.

[damnMikeBrown]

Glad the Bengals are making moves to improve.

[flere-imsaho]

As of Tuesday afternoon, the Vikings were roughly $31 million under the salary cap.

Holy crap! How did they manage that? Do they still have a lot of people to sign?

[stevew]

kendrell bell to kc for 7 years.


Thats a gripload of cash(10+ million guaranteed) for a guy with health issues. I can't believe you can be hurt all year and still expect 6mil/year like his agent was expecting. Talentwise it may be a loss to Pitt, but its not like we were gonna miss him anyways. I wonder what round of compensatory pick he will give us.

[TazFTW]

Holy crap! How did they manage that? Do they still have a lot of people to sign?
Nah, just cheap.

[stevew]

Holy crap! How did they manage that? Do they still have a lot of people to sign?

Apparently they give guys a lot of incentives marked "likely to be achieved" and when the guys dont get those incentives, they get folded into the cap the following year. I read about one team giving their 3rd string QB a 5 million dollar incentive if he throws the most TD passes for the team(I think Jacksonville). Its a cap loophole they should look to close in the future to some degree.

[Swaggs]

Thats a gripload of cash(10+ million guaranteed) for a guy with health issues. I can't believe you can be hurt all year and still expect 6mil/year like his agent was expecting. Talentwise it may be a loss to Pitt, but its not like we were gonna miss him anyways. I wonder what round of compensatory pick he will give us.

I hope they are graded by the amount of the player's new contract. :)

[sovereignstar]

Local radio has confirmed that Smoot has signed with the Vikes.

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Vikings bolster secondary with Smoot
Last Update: 3/8/2005 6:17:09 PM

KFAN dot com

The Vikings and free-agent cornerback Fred Smoot agreed to terms on a six-year deal early Tuesday evening, the FAN has learned.

Terms were not disclosed, but the deal is believed to be close to the six-year, $35 million contract the Vikings' other top cornerback, Antoine Winfield, signed last March.

The team will introduce Smoot at an 11 a.m. press conference Wednesday.

Smoot, a former second-round pick who played his first four seasons in Washington, rejected a contract offer from the Redskins last week that included a $10 million bonus.

The 5-foot-11, 174-pound cornerback planned to continue his free-agent tour in Kansas City on Tuesday afternoon, but missed the flight while his agent, James Cook, ironed out details with Vikings officials at Winter Park.

Smoot, considered one of the NFL's premier cover cornerbacks, has 182 tackles and 16 interceptions in 60 career games. He battled shoulder and back problems in 2004, but played in 15 games -- missing only the Redskins' victorious season finale against the Vikings.

The 25-year-old Mississippi State product also has had chest and knee injuries, playing in all 16 games just once in his four-year career.

Smott will start opposite Winfield in Minnesota, replacing restricted free agent Brian Williams.

[cthomer5000]

Apparently they give guys a lot of incentives marked "likely to be achieved" and when the guys dont get those incentives, they get folded into the cap the following year. I read about one team giving their 3rd string QB a 5 million dollar incentive if he throws the most TD passes for the team(I think Jacksonville). Its a cap loophole they should look to close in the future to some degree. Don't confuse the issues here. There's no way the NFL would deem that clause you're talking about "likely to be earned."

[MikeVic]

I like Fred Smoot... and I'm not biased by the fact that he was my starting corner in FOF2K4 for a long time. I like him in the NFL, too I guess.

[Honolulu_Blue]

It's a good signing for the Vikes. It gives them two quality starting corners for the first time in years. If they do manage to trade for Darius, they should have a decent D. Their line is pretty strong, the linebackers are fast and athletic, and their secondary should be solid. If they get a good wideout in the draft (or sign an FA) to help fill the Randy Moss void, they should be in good shape.

[mckerney]

http://www.startribune.com/stories/510/5281325.html

The Vikings have agreed to terms with free agent tight end Jermaine Wiggins on a five-year deal worth $7.3 million with a $1 million signing bonus, his agent, George Mavrikes, told the Star Tribune on Tuesday.



With the Smoot signing, Brian Williams can either be moved to safety, or he'll be a solid nickle back.

[Franklinnoble]

Vikings are busy today...

[mckerney]

Vikings are busy today...

Yeah, if only they can pull off a deal for Darius today. :)

[sovereignstar]

Any idea on who the Vikings kicker is going to be next year, mckerney? I don't want this to end up being another "wait until someone gets cut during training camp" type deal.

[mckerney]

With luck, Mike Nugent.

[Ragone]

With luck, Mike Nugent.


Hell, Ted nugent would be an upgrade at this point :)

[mckerney]

Hell, Ted nugent would be an upgrade at this point :)

Yeah. It sure would be nice to get some youth at the kicker position. :)



If we're unlucky, Rhys Lloyd will be wearing purple as he fires extra point attempts into the defensive line. Why he's ranked the 3rd best kicking prospect by Kiper is beyond me.

[TLK]

John Clayton is reporting that Brad Johnson will end up with the Lions, possibly as early as tomorrow....

[cthomer5000]

John Clayton is reporting that Brad Johnson will end up with the Lions, possibly as early as tomorrow....
Where's Jeff Garcia go? Joins the iffy Tampa situation?

[Coffee Warlord]

Sigh. Looking like Bears and Jay Fiedler are gonna be united.

Joy.

[stevew]

Don't confuse the issues here. There's no way the NFL would deem that clause you're talking about "likely to be earned."

Seriously, Quinn Gray had like 6 million in incentives that he didnt earn, but that were considered "likely to be earned," giving the Jags an extra cap credit for this year.

[TLK]

Garcia had been linked with Denver. Seattle is also possible after the Dilfer trade....

[Vince]

Any Niners fans have an opinion on Cedric Wilson?

I don't believe I have ever heard of him before this signing and his size/speed make it sound like he is a Randle El clone--more quick and agile than downfield speedy. I was kind of hoping the Steelers could find some contrasting talent in FA and the draft, along the lines of one tall/possession type and one deep threat to go with Hines Ward and Randle El.
I'll miss him -- he was a solid young receiver who looked like he could be a solid #2/3 type WR. It seemed like every single pass he caught was for a first down.

[Honolulu_Blue]

Where's Jeff Garcia go? Joins the iffy Tampa situation?
All signs pointed to Denver at one time. Though Seattle apparently jumped into the mix too after the Dilfer trade.

[Honolulu_Blue]

Garcia had been linked with Denver. Seattle is also possible after the Dilfer trade....Woah.

That was weird. I didn't see your post when I posted mine.

[stevew]

This is the article i was talking about


Around the 49ers, the phrase "dead money" has been heard a lot this year. Dead money refers to a portion of signing bonuses paid in the past to players who no longer are with the team.

Here's how it works:

Signing bonuses are prorated over the length of a contract for salary-cap purposes. If a player leaves the team before his contract expires, the remaining prorated portion of the bonus is counted immediately, in a lump sum, against the cap.

For example, when the 49ers got rid of Jeff Garcia following the 2003 season, they had to account for about $10 million of signing bonus previously paid to him but not yet counted against the cap.

That is known as "dead money."

In apportioning their $80.582 million salary cap this year, the 49ers had to include $28 million of dead money.

Dead money also can carry a hidden advantage to an owner because it allows a team to use up salary-cap space without spending anything more. Some NFL owners have been known to intentionally create dead money.

The flip side of dead money is a loophole in the cap rules that allows teams to create additional cap space.

Owners who want to spend more money, rather than pinch pennies, have an easy way to get some wiggle room. If a team has cap space remaining late in a season, because, say, space left for emergency injury replacements was not required, there is a way to push that cap room to the following year.

A team can do this by signing a player to a contract that calls for impossible-to-achieve bonuses; under the rules, a bonus added to a contract during the season is counted against the current cap as "likely to be earned," although it might never be paid.

Jacksonville recently did this with third-string quarterback Quinn Gray, signing a new deal that included a $6 million bonus if he leads the team in touchdown passes.

That won't happen, of course. So in 2005, that $6 million will be credited back to the Jaguars' salary cap, in effect raising their cap limit by that amount. Some owners want to close that loophole.

[TazFTW]

Cardinals sign S Robert Griffith to a two year deal.

Falcons sign P Toby Gowin and release P Chris Mohr

Browns sign Trent Dilfer to a 4 year deal

Patriots re-sign G Stephen Neal

[cthomer5000]

Seriously, Quinn Gray had like 6 million in incentives that he didnt earn, but that were considered "likely to be earned," giving the Jags an extra cap credit for this year.
I appreciate the follow-up, it looks like we both get half-credit here. It specifically mentions that bonuses that are added to a contract "during the season" are automatically factored in as "likely to be earned."

I wonder what the defition of "during the season" is, and I wonder how long it will take the NFL to close that particular loophole.

[Vinatieri for Prez]

I like what the Vikes are doing this year. They have seriously upgraded the defense - CB, LB, DL (which they had to do), and even more so if they add a quality safety. They dumped the Moss headache, and will probably get a very promising WR in Mike Williams in the draft. Add a 3rd receiver in FA, and I think they will compete. They won't be as explosive, but won't need to with the improved defense.

[Fonzie]

I like what the Vikes are doing this year. They have seriously upgraded the defense - CB, LB, DL (which they had to do), and even more so if they add a quality safety. They dumped the Moss headache, and will probably get a very promising WR in Mike Williams in the draft. Add a 3rd receiver in FA, and I think they will compete. They won't be as explosive, but won't need to with the improved defense.

I agree with you - and I'm a Packers fan. Their defense has gotten a whole lot better in the last week. That makes me uneasy - and the fact that Packers fans are uneasy should make Vikings fans very happy. :)

[Franklinnoble]

Bah. The Vikings need a new head coach before they go anywhere.

Tice is goddamned horrible.

[Franklinnoble]

dola... Seriously... I mean, Art Shell is begging to work as a head coach again, and Mike Tice still has a job.

[Thomkal]

Cards ownership shelling out money + Good players actually wanting to play for the Cardinals=Me, Cardinal fan, falling into a coma in disbelief.

[Joe]

Bah. The Vikings need a new head coach before they go anywhere.

Tice is goddamned horrible.


you mean most coaches don't consider anything inside the 50 to be 4-down territory?

[dawgfan]

dola... Seriously... I mean, Art Shell is begging to work as a head coach again, and Mike Tice still has a job.

I really am puzzled by why Art Shell hasn't gotten another shot - the man was 54-38 with the Raiders and had just 1 losing season.

[mhass]

Sigh. Looking like Bears and Jay Fiedler are gonna be united.

Joy.
I hear Fielder to the Jets. That leaves Garcia to Chicago. Not good.

[Fonzie]

I hear Fielder to the Jets. That leaves Garcia to Chicago. Not good.

You know, having to choose between Fiedler and Garcia as a backup is a bit like having to choose whether you want an angry pack of chimps to rip off your nose or your foot.

[scooper]

You know, having to choose between Fiedler and Garcia as a backup is a bit like having to choose whether you want an angry pack of chimps to rip off your nose or your foot.
I don't think so. We're talking backup here. Granted he's not what he once was, but Garcia has played at a pro bowl level. Fiedler, granted isn't a great QB, but he has considerable starting experience, is intelligent and can pick up an offense and didn't exactly have a great offense around him in Miami.

No, I wouldn't want either of them leading my team, but really, how many back-ups would you look at and say "Wow. I want that guy?" My guess is only a handful. We are talking backups here.

[mhass]

You know, having to choose between Fiedler and Garcia as a backup is a bit like having to choose whether you want an angry pack of chimps to rip off your nose or your foot.
Only more painful.

[Fonzie]

I don't think so. We're talking backup here. Granted he's not what he once was, but Garcia has played at a pro bowl level. Fiedler, granted isn't a great QB, but he has considerable starting experience, is intelligent and can pick up an offense and didn't exactly have a great offense around him in Miami.

No, I wouldn't want either of them leading my team, but really, how many back-ups would you look at and say "Wow. I want that guy?" My guess is only a handful. We are talking backups here.

I was just kidding.

[Arles]

how many back-ups would you look at and say "Wow. I want that guy?"
Uhhh, Doug Pederson?

[Franklinnoble]

I really am puzzled by why Art Shell hasn't gotten another shot - the man was 54-38 with the Raiders and had just 1 losing season.


I hate playing the race card, but this is what I'm talking about. It's bloody ridiculous. You've got teams like the 'Niners and Vikings hiring established deadbeats as head coaches. The Raiders hired Norv Turner. The Falcons and Jags hired unproven assistants (yes, they've worked out ok... but still). Re-treads like Schottenheimer get chances all the time.

But Art Shell can't get a job.

If I made a list of the white guys who've been hired since Art Shell's been fired, it'd be sick.

It's fucked up.

[Ksyrup]

Could it be that he just doesn't make a good impression during interviews? That no matter what kind of coach he is, he just doesn't convey the type of presence and vision for a franchise that a team is looking for? There are plenty of assistants out there who always come up short, and I'm sure it's the things we don't see that cost them the job. Not to mention, it's been quite a while since he was a head coach, so that argument loses steam the longer he's out.

I mean, if a guy like Dennis Green can get another chance - and I firmly believe the only reason it took him so long is because of the freak/side show he was in Minnesota - then race can't be a factor. Maybe it is, but more likely it's something not so obvious, or hidden from the public, that has cost him that second chance.

[scooper]

Uhhh, Doug Pederson?
Why? His 12/19 TD to INT ratio or his 62.3 rating and 17 games started all at least five years ago?

By comparison, Fiedler is 68/66 and 76.9 with 60 games started.

Garcia is 123/65 and and 87.2 81 games

I know which ones I'd rather have as a backup.

[rkmsuf]

I'm sick of all the Shell talk. He was ok but no more or less qualified than the next shmoe.

Sometimes franchises want to go with the college guy or personal relationships. Shell is doing just fine in the league office. I haven't seen a full court press from this guy so who knows if he even wants to coach now.

[Arles]

Why? His 12/19 TD to INT ratio or his 62.3 rating and 17 games started all at least five years ago?

By comparison, Fiedler is 68/66 and 76.9 with 60 games started.

Garcia is 123/65 and and 87.2 81 games

I know which ones I'd rather have as a backup.
"Low Sarcasm Alert!"

[rkmsuf]

The NFL should just stop giving any of them tickets.

[moriarty]

The NFL should just stop giving any of them tickets.

Umm... was this supposed to be in the Tice ticket scandal thread?

[rkmsuf]

Umm... was this supposed to be in the Tice ticket scandal thread?


HAR!

[scooper]

"Low Sarcasm Alert!"
Yeah I guessed I missed that. :cool:

I really could care less about Garcia or Fiedler. I made my argument based on the "that guy is a bum" mentality that gets thrown on certain QB's after some failure as a starter. But really, what do people want? We're talking about backups.

Also, there seems to be a love affair in some circles with Pederson when in reality, he hasn't done much of anything. Of course, playing the last five years behind one of the most durable starting QB's in history hasn't given him much of a chance.

[TazFTW]

No big signings today (yet).

LB Donnie Spragen (Broncos) signs a 2 year deal with the Dolphins.

Falcons sign LB Ike Reese (Eagles).

Cardinals re-sign DE Peppi Zellner to a 2 year deal and they have released QB Shaun King.

Chargers sign WR Keenan McCardell to a 2 year extension.

Niners coach Mike Nolan says Barlow is their man.

The Colts have told Drew Rosenhaus that they are not looking to sign Edgerin James to a long term deal and they are willing to trade him.

[TLK]

The Lions had Brad Johnson, Corey Bradford, and Rick Demulling in town today. All left without signing contracts. They said that Johnson is off to workout for Chicago, while Demulling will have an offer on the table from Baltimore.

[cthomer5000]

I hate playing the race card, but this is what I'm talking about. It's bloody ridiculous. You've got teams like the 'Niners and Vikings hiring established deadbeats as head coaches. The Raiders hired Norv Turner. The Falcons and Jags hired unproven assistants (yes, they've worked out ok... but still). Re-treads like Schottenheimer get chances all the time.

But Art Shell can't get a job.

If I made a list of the white guys who've been hired since Art Shell's been fired, it'd be sick.

It's fucked up.
Speaking of playing the race cards, I'm guessing that making racist remarks about your own players isn't quickly forgotten by those around the league.

That's one guess as to why he doesn't have a job.

[Franklinnoble]

Speaking of playing the race cards, I'm guessing that making racist remarks about your own players isn't quickly forgotten by those around the league.

That's one guess as to why he doesn't have a job.

You know, if I had a dollar for all the dumb shit Bill Parcells or Jim Mora ever said, I'd be bloody rich.

Christ, Buddy Ryan punched somebody and got hired as a head coach the next season.

[Noble_Platypus]

Since its obviousy equality that is the main focus of hiring more black coaches I think someone should spearhead the "more white RBs" movement. Its only fair.

[Swaggs]

How can you trash Schottenheimer?

He is 60 games over .500 in his career and has only finished under .500 twice in 19 years.

[ISiddiqui]

You know, if I had a dollar for all the dumb shit Bill Parcells or Jim Mora ever said, I'd be bloody rich.

Christ, Buddy Ryan punched somebody and got hired as a head coach the next season.
Cause saying something dumb to punching a fellow assistant who is not on team the next year (Jeff Fischer was that 'somebody') is the same as making racist remarks about your players? Sorry, but actively engaging in clubhouse disruptive activity puts you on the bottom rung of coaches to be hired.

[Franklinnoble]

Cause saying something dumb to punching a fellow assistant who is not on team the next year (Jeff Fischer was that 'somebody') is the same as making racist remarks about your players? Sorry, but actively engaging in clubhouse disruptive activity puts you on the bottom rung of coaches to be hired.

And yet, somehow, Dusty Baker remains employed...

[TazFTW]

Itula Mili re-signs with the Seahawks.

The Browns are going to release Courtney Brown within the next week.

[sterlingice]

Cause saying something dumb to punching a fellow assistant who is not on team the next year (Jeff Fischer was that 'somebody') is the same as making racist remarks about your players? Sorry, but actively engaging in clubhouse disruptive activity puts you on the bottom rung of coaches to be hired.
I'm pretty sure it was Kevin Gilbride who was that somebody who Ryan punched.

SI

[mhass]

I'm pretty sure it was Kevin Gilbride who was that somebody who Ryan punched.

SI
It was Gilbride. And I don't think it immediately preceeded his hiring as a head coach either. Could be wrong.

[Pyser]

i guess the burress visit went badly, because the giants have withdrawn their offer.

[mckerney]

The Giants have withdrawn their offer to Plaxico Burress, not sure who's still interested in Burress at this point. Looks like he won't be getting the Muhammed type money that he'd wanted.

[Fonzie]

The Giants have withdrawn their offer to Plaxico Burress, not sure who's still interested in Burress at this point. Looks like he won't be getting the Muhammed type money that he'd wanted.

Huh. Any word on what happened during the interview to disinterest the Giants?

[mckerney]

Vikings | Could Pursue Sharper - from www.KFFL.com
Thu, 10 Mar 2005 11:27:04 -0800

Tom Silverstein, of the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel, reports the Minnesota Vikings could pursue S Darren Sharper, who is expected to be released by the Green Bay Packers in the coming days.


Wouldn't be bad if they fail to land Darius.

[mckerney]

Huh. Any word on what happened during the interview to disinterest the Giants?

My guess would probably be a combination of character issues and salary demands.

[albionmoonlight]

I hope that Plax didn't preorder his Bentley.

[mckerney]

I believe the Vikings are the only team that still showed interest in him, but it wasn't that great. Hopefully with some lower contract demands they could land him. The Giants were the only other team realy interested in him, the Eagles were rumored to be denied it, and the Steelers aren't interested in bringing him back. I think he could be a good pickup at the right price.

[rkmsuf]

I believe the Vikings are the only team that still showed interest in him, but it wasn't that great. Hopefully with some lower contract demands they could land him. The Giants were the only other team realy interested in him, the Eagles were rumored to be denied it, and the Steelers aren't interested in bringing him back. I think he could be a good pickup at the right price.

I don't. You want to talk about a sulker and disgruntled.

He doesn't impress me as the type to say "I'll show you."

He had that chance last year.

[mckerney]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=pasquarelli_len&id=2009691

Burress is heading back for another visit in Minnnesota, Culpepper is lobbying for the team to sign him.

[Arles]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=pasquarelli_len&id=2009691

Burress is heading back for another visit in Minnnesota, Culpepper is lobbying for the team to sign him.
Randy Moss without the talent - just what Minnesota needs. Seriously, though, the Vikes have easily had the most impressive offseason, but signing Buress will do more harm than good, IMO.

[TazFTW]

Brett Favre will be playing in 2005.

WR Mike Williams has met with Bears GM Jerry Angelo. The Buccaneers have been impressed by him.

The Broncos have matched the Jets offer for TE Jeb Putzier

Niners sign K Joe Nedney to a 1 year deal.

[Hammer755]

The Browns are going to release Courtney Brown within the next week.

Wow, so the Browns will have essentially traded a #1 overall and a #3 overall for the grand total of a fourth-round pick. That's quality right there.

[Arles]

Not a big surprise, but GB officially cut Darren Sharper:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=pasquarelli_len&id=2009789

[TazFTW]

Niners are talking with David Boston and one fan site has them agreeing to a deal.

[sovereignstar]

Niners are talking with David Boston and one fan site has them agreeing to a deal.

I wonder if said deal will have a no lying about doing steroids clause.

[mckerney]

Vikings | Could Pursue Sharper - from www.KFFL.com
Thu, 10 Mar 2005 11:27:04 -0800

Tom Silverstein, of the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel, reports the Minnesota Vikings could pursue S Darren Sharper, who is expected to be released by the Green Bay Packers in the coming days.


Wouldn't be bad if they fail to land Darius.

Sharper will be visting Winter Park tomorrow. I'd be very happy with the Vikings secondary if he were added.

[TLK]

Has anyone heard anything about Troy Brown? I'm interested to see where he ends up....

[sovereignstar]

FALSE ALARM ON BOSTON


A league source tells us that the 49ers have not signed -- and do not intend to sign -- free-agent receiver David Boston.

The story that Boston is heading to San Fran appears on 49ersnews.com. When the link was sent to us by e-mail this afternoon, we inadvertently deemed it to be a link to the team's official site.

It wasn't. And, officially, there will be no Boston in San Fran.

Various newspapers recently have reported that Boston is talking to and/or planning to meet with the 49ers. However, we've learned that there's simply no interest on the team's part at this time.

.

[stevew]

i guess the burress visit went badly, because the giants have withdrawn their offer.


Its a pretty big deal when an offer gets WITHDRAWN isnt it? I dont think ive seen this specifically stated before, at least in the past couple years. He's a jackass anyways, he's not worth the Giants troubles.

[General Mike]

Who the hell are the Giants gonna play at WR now? Maybe they can sign Boston and hope he can stay healthy.

[DeToxRox]

Here's hoping the Lions can nab DeMulling and Brad Johnson and maybe Troy Brown for WR depth, and put a capper on another solid Free Agency period.

[cthomer5000]

I hope that Plax didn't preorder his Bentley.
no shit! I haven't seen a player/agent bungle something this badly since Erric Rhett's holdout.

[bosshogg23]

Here's hoping the Lions can nab DeMulling and Brad Johnson and maybe Troy Brown for WR depth, and put a capper on another solid Free Agency period.

I would rather they drafted a guard in the 2nd round. Pick up a DE in the 1st and draft David Baas(OG/C out of Michigan) in the 2nd.

Johnson has got to be the choice as a backup.

[DeToxRox]

I would rather they drafted a guard in the 2nd round. Pick up a DE in the 1st and draft David Baas(OG/C out of Michigan) in the 2nd.

Johnson has got to be the choice as a backup.

I'd love to get Baas but from all accounts he's moved himself possibly to the late first round. If we could get Elton Brown out of UVA in the second, it'd be nice, but I wouldn't want to risk going into camp without a true Guard if we can't get those two.

Dan Cody seems to be our guy at #10, but who knows. I'd like to see him or Derrick Johnson.

DJ would give us the fastest group of LB in the NFL. Boss, Lehman, Johnson? The playmaking potential would be unreal.

[bosshogg23]

I'd love to get Baas but from all accounts he's moved himself possibly to the late first round. If we could get Elton Brown out of UVA in the second, it'd be nice, but I wouldn't want to risk going into camp without a true Guard if we can't get those two.

Dan Cody seems to be our guy at #10, but who knows. I'd like to see him or Derrick Johnson.

DJ would give us the fastest group of LB in the NFL. Boss, Lehman, Johnson? The playmaking potential would be unreal.

I would prefer Cody over Johnson at this point but I am not enamored with either one. Johnson had real trouble shedding blocks this year. Michigan chipped him in the bowl game and he didnt play well at all.

I think Millen has decided the most important thing is putting money in the secondary and defensive line. I dont see us spending a first rounder on a LB because so much money is already tied up in CB, S and DT.

If I was Millen I would also give some interest to Cosey Coleman the Guard out of Tampa who I believe is a FA.

[mckerney]

I'd love to get Baas but from all accounts he's moved himself possibly to the late first round. If we could get Elton Brown out of UVA in the second, it'd be nice, but I wouldn't want to risk going into camp without a true Guard if we can't get those two.

Dan Cody seems to be our guy at #10, but who knows. I'd like to see him or Derrick Johnson.

DJ would give us the fastest group of LB in the NFL. Boss, Lehman, Johnson? The playmaking potential would be unreal.

I'd be shocked if Johnson lasts until #10. In fact I hope he's taken at #7. :)

[Honolulu_Blue]

I would rather they drafted a guard in the 2nd round. Pick up a DE in the 1st and draft David Baas(OG/C out of Michigan) in the 2nd.

Johnson has got to be the choice as a backup.
I wouldn't mind seeing the Lions getting Baas in the second round. The worry is that the Lions, in all likelihood, would be starting the season with 2/5 of it's offensive line (Baas and whoever starts at right tackle Rogers/Butler) with absolutely zero starting experience.

Looking at mock drafts, they have the Lions taking almost any of the following: Heath Miller, Derrick Johnson, Shawnee Merriman, Erasmus James, Antrell Rolle, Pac Man Jones, or Marcus Spears.

[DeToxRox]

I would prefer Cody over Johnson at this point but I am not enamored with either one. Johnson had real trouble shedding blocks this year. Michigan chipped him in the bowl game and he didnt play well at all.

I think Millen has decided the most important thing is putting money in the secondary and defensive line. I dont see us spending a first rounder on a LB because so much money is already tied up in CB, S and DT.

If I was Millen I would also give some interest to Cosey Coleman the Guard out of Tampa who I believe is a FA.

Indeed.

Dan Cody is probably the top choice because Kalimba Edwards has been bust. Redding is better from the inside, and DeVries is a solid player but nothing to hang your hat on. I'd Cody on the other end of Hall with Rogers, Wilkinson and Redding opening up the middle is a nice thought. Also, I keep forgetting that James Davis and Alex Lewis showed some good signs last year. I'd Bailey being back is huge, and I can live with he and Lehman on the outside with Holmes plugging the middle.

I just can't see any other position being taken but DE, OG or off chance, LB.

[Honolulu_Blue]

If I was Millen I would also give some interest to Cosey Coleman the Guard out of Tampa who I believe is a FA.
Coleman has already signed somewheres... I think. The last of the 'quality' free agent gaurds appear to be DeMulling or that guy out of Denver.

[Honolulu_Blue]

I'd be shocked if Johnson lasts until #10. In fact I hope he's taken at #7. :)This is why I am really hoping that the Plaxico thing doesn't work out. That way the Vikes would be more apt to take a WR with that pick... I'd like to see as many WRs and RBs taken in the first ten spots as possible. The Lions have no need for either position at the Ten Spot.

[DeToxRox]

I wouldn't mind seeing the Lions getting Baas in the second round. The worry is that the Lions, in all likelihood, would be starting the season with 2/5 of it's offensive line (Baas and whoever starts at right tackle Rogers/Butler) with absolutely zero starting experience.

Looking at mock drafts, they have the Lions taking almost any of the following: Heath Miller, Derrick Johnson, Shawnee Merriman, Erasmus James, Antrell Rolle, Pac Man Jones, or Marcus Spears.

I keep reading in the local papers the Lions have no worries at the RT spot. I think they feel Rogers will be as good as McDougle (I beleive its Rogers, it's been a while since I read the report) but in any case, they are two 7th round picks. Rogers has been solid though in the limited time he does see the field, and playing next to Woody will be a plus. A first three picks of Cody, Baas, Shazor would look nice.

Shazor in the third is a stretch, but he could be a guy who could sit behind Brock for a year, learn the ropes, and become a force.

[DeToxRox]

This is why I am really hoping that the Plaxico thing doesn't work out. That way the Vikes would be more apt to take a WR with that pick... I'd like to see as many WRs and RBs taken in the first ten spots as possible. The Lions have no need for either position at the Ten Spot.

I hope the Vikes get Plaxico over Braylon.

Braylon is the real deal, in my opinion, and I think Plaxico would be a huge downgrade over Braylon, who may not have the talent of Moss, but in my opinion isn't that far of a downgrade, and brings a lot of leadership to the table.

Plaxico is a big WR who has questionable habits, and isn't a great leaper. He doesn't scare me nearly as much as I think Braylon would.

[Honolulu_Blue]

I keep reading in the local papers the Lions have no worries at the RT spot. I think they feel Rogers will be as good as McDougle (I beleive its Rogers, it's been a while since I read the report) but in any case, they are two 7th round picks. Rogers has been solid though in the limited time he does see the field, and playing next to Woody will be a plus. A first three picks of Cody, Baas, Shazor would look nice.

Shazor in the third is a stretch, but he could be a guy who could sit behind Brock for a year, learn the ropes, and become a force.
Yeah, they think they can protect either Rogers or Butler with a TE and Woody. Rogers is a 4th year guy and Bulter is a 2nd year guy.

I have to look into Cody. For whatever reason, he just doesn't do it for me. Then again, not sure if any of the DE's do. I wouldn't mind Shazor. I wonder if he's fast enough to play "free safety" in the NFL. Kennedy is more of a run-supporter/hard hitting safety. Having two of those guys back there could be tough.

[DeToxRox]

Yeah, they think they can protect either Rogers or Butler with a TE and Woody. Rogers is a 4th year guy and Bulter is a 2nd year guy.

I have to look into Cody. For whatever reason, he just doesn't do it for me. Then again, not sure if any of the DE's do. I wouldn't mind Shazor. I wonder if he's fast enough to play "free safety" in the NFL. Kennedy is more of a run-supporter/hard hitting safety. Having two of those guys back there could be tough.

Granted on the Shazor/Kennedy thing, but I think Shazor has the capability to be a good cover saftey. Coulda' used the extra year to develope it though. I do think our RT will be fine, and isn't worth a huge investment right now.

As far as Cody goes, I like his work ethic. I heard somewhere he had some personality issues, but I can't confirm that. Anyone else know?

He seems like he could be a solid 10-12 sack kind of guy, especially working off of Rogers and Hall because the kid doesn't quit.

Also, the OU connection with Lehman, I believe anyways, would be a nice plus.

[DeToxRox]

The Lions have taken over this thread. Much like they will take over the NFC North. Mwhahahaha. :)

[Honolulu_Blue]

The Lions have taken over this thread. Much like they will take over the NFC North. Mwhahahaha. :)
Indeed!

It will be interesting to see what the Lions do with this pick. First time in a while the Lions have had no huge, glaring need and are drafting low enough (it's all relative) to not be almost guaranteed to get a certain guy.

DE makes a lot of sense. CB (e.g., Rolle or Jones) doesn't make as much sense. They have too much $$ tied up in Bryant and Bly. The Pollard signing seems to remove Heath Miller from the equation and the Kennedy signing appears to have removed a trade-down for Thomas Davis scenario... Interesting times.

[DeToxRox]

Indeed!

It will be interesting to see what the Lions do with this pick. First time in a while the Lions have had no huge, glaring need and are drafting low enough (it's all relative) to not be almost guaranteed to get a certain guy.

DE makes a lot of sense. CB (e.g., Rolle or Jones) doesn't make as much sense. They have too much $$ tied up in Bryant and Bly. The Pollard signing seems to remove Heath Miller from the equation and the Kennedy signing appears to have removed a trade-down for Thomas Davis scenario... Interesting times.

Indeed. The only other scenario I see is we trade down to mid 20's and pick up Baas?

Perhaps to a team who wants Rolle maybe?

I dunno what else we could possibly do at this point.

[bosshogg23]

I keep reading in the local papers the Lions have no worries at the RT spot. I think they feel Rogers will be as good as McDougle (I beleive its Rogers, it's been a while since I read the report) but in any case, they are two 7th round picks. Rogers has been solid though in the limited time he does see the field, and playing next to Woody will be a plus. A first three picks of Cody, Baas, Shazor would look nice.

Shazor in the third is a stretch, but he could be a guy who could sit behind Brock for a year, learn the ropes, and become a force.

Shazor has been "selected" in the late 1st in a few drafts. I would be very concerned that we would have 2 big hitters and no one that can cover if we drafted Shazor(though it would be great to watch).

Rogers is definitely the one you are thinking about. He has gotten great marks so far. He is considered a poor mans Tra Thomas.

[bosshogg23]

The Pollard signing seems to remove Heath Miller from the equation.

THANKFULLY! The 10th pick on Miller seemed ridiculous to me.

[Honolulu_Blue]

THANKFULLY! The 10th pick on Miller seemed ridiculous to me.
Agreed. I wasn't thrilled with the prospect of drafting him with the 10th pick either.

[Kozure]

I might have missed someone mentioning this but...

Ty Law visited the steelers today. For those who dont know, Law is from Pittsburgh. Could be a good pickup for the Burg if he is willing to give them a hometown discount.

[bosshogg23]

Perhaps to a team who wants Rolle maybe?



I thought we would be interested in Rolle originally. One of the Detroit papers was suggesting the Lions cut Brock Marion. If they do that I hope Holt gets a chance to play. He seems to be all around the ball when he is on the field.

[stevew]

I might have missed someone mentioning this but...

Ty Law visited the steelers today. For those who dont know, Law is from Pittsburgh. Could be a good pickup for the Burg if he is willing to give them a hometown discount.

I dont know, isnt he pretty well finished?

[stevew]

And i seriously doubt Law gives anyone a discount at this point.

[Kozure]

Law's 31...and the Steelers will only take him if he is healthy. The team isn't known for taking chances on players.

[Swaggs]

I might have missed someone mentioning this but...

Ty Law visited the steelers today. For those who dont know, Law is from Pittsburgh. Could be a good pickup for the Burg if he is willing to give them a hometown discount.

I would love to see Law sign with the Steelers.

[Cuckoo]

As far as Cody goes, I like his work ethic. I heard somewhere he had some personality issues, but I can't confirm that. Anyone else know?

No personality issues. He a bout with clinical depression a few years back. He left the team and got things straightened out. All indications are that it's completely under control, although all NFL teams are asking about, rightfully so. Once something like that happens once, you have to wonder about it.

For me, the way the guy plays easily makes up for any fears about that.

[Arles]

I love Rivera, but this is the main reason I didn't want GB to pay over $3 mil in SB for him:

Marco Rivera, the ex-Packers Pro Bowl guard who last week received a $9 million signing bonus to sign a free agent contract with the Cowboys, underwent back surgery Thursday in Dallas after experiencing pain while running on a treadmill, sources told ESPN's Chris Mortensen.

Rivera, 32, is expected to be inactive for four-to-six weeks after surgery that repaired a L-5 disk problem, the sources said. He experienced significant pain in a leg when he was running on a treadmill Wednesday morning in Baltimore, where he was honored at the annual Ed Bloch Awards.

Rivera underwent the operation in Dallas and was said to be resting comfortably at Presbyterian Hospital. Rivera is expected to recover in time for training camp in late July, sources said.

A Cowboys spokesman had no comment about Rivera's status.
This guy is kept up by balsa wood between his back and knees. I'd be amazed if Dallas gets more than one good season out of him.

[MikeVic]

Law with Pittsburgh at an affordable price would be awesome. Well, I have no idea how good he is right now afetr injuries... but I still like him. :D

[Vinatieri for Prez]

If Law didn't give NE a discount, then Pitt isn't getting one. He has said that staying in NE was his first choice.

[sovereignstar]

If Law didn't give NE a discount, then Pitt isn't getting one. He has said that staying in NE was his first choice.

Is that really your argument?

[Ragone]

Chiefs Sign Sammy knight.. wee

[Tigercat]

Chiefs better find the best scheme with which to use Sammy. If you find the scheme that lets Sammy do his free roaming thing, then he will make lots of big plays. But the more specific responsibilities you put to his safety spot, the more his shortcommings will show.

[albionmoonlight]

Rumors have the Saints and Raiders trading Charles Woodson for Darren Howard.

[TazFTW]

The Jets sign Jay Fiedler.

The Eagles sign Mike McMahon to a 2 year deal.

[mckerney]

Patriots | Dwight Agrees to One-Year Deal - from www.KFFL.com
Fri, 11 Mar 2005 10:40:30 -0800

USAToday.com reports the New England Patriots have agreed to a one-year deal with free agent WR Tim Dwight (Chargers). Financial terms were undisclosed.

[rkmsuf]

Patriots | Dwight Agrees to One-Year Deal - from www.KFFL.com
Fri, 11 Mar 2005 10:40:30 -0800

USAToday.com reports the New England Patriots have agreed to a one-year deal with free agent WR Tim Dwight (Chargers). Financial terms were undisclosed.

That's the end of Troy Brown.

[FrogMan]

Patriots | Dwight Agrees to One-Year Deal - from www.KFFL.com (http://www.kffl.com/)
Fri, 11 Mar 2005 10:40:30 -0800

USAToday.com reports the New England Patriots have agreed to a one-year deal with free agent WR Tim Dwight (Chargers). Financial terms were undisclosed.
That's interesting. The minute I read they were working him out, I thought he would fit the mold here. I like that signing, nothing flashy, I just like it...

FM

[Swaggs]

Has Vinatieri resigned?

Any news on him, if not?

[rkmsuf]

Has Vinatieri resigned?

Any news on him, if not?

franchise tag

[FrogMan]

Has Vinatieri resigned?

Any news on him, if not?
They slapped the franchise tag on him, that's the last I've read about him...

FM

[Joe]

Has Vinatieri resigned?

Any news on him, if not?

franchised

[TazFTW]

The Jay Fiedler deal is for 5 years.


Jay Glazer is reporting the San Diego Charger have told Doug Flutie that he will be released.

[mckerney]

No deal yet, but KFAN reports the Vikings won't let Darren Sharper leave without a contract.

[rkmsuf]

No deal yet, but KFAN reports the Vikings won't let Darren Sharper leave without a contract.

that's one way to make him sign.

[Joe]

No deal yet, but KFAN reports the Vikings won't let Darren Sharper leave without a contract.


are they offering extra superbowl tickets as an incentive?

[moriarty]

Wait, so who will be the backup QB for the Bears, now that Fiedler's gone? Brad Johnson? Jeff Garcia?

Chad Hutchinson.


Or wait ... maybe Doug Flutie returns ....

[JasonC23]

Wait, so who will be the backup QB for the Bears, now that Fiedler's gone? Brad Johnson? Jeff Garcia?

[JasonC23]

Chad Hutchinson.


Or wait ... maybe Doug Flutie returns ....
:eek:

I think they should sign Jeff Garcia, personally.

[Arles]

They already have Jeff George ;)

[JasonC23]

They already have Jeff George ;)\

Actually, the Bears released Jeff George.

I think Jerry Angelo said he got the idea that George isn't a winner from an online message board, or something...

[Tigercat]

New rumors in the Darren Howard situation(there is a new one every few days):

Dallas and another team(rumored to be seattle) are talking with Howards agent about contracts. A bidding competition which is rumored to have Dallas considering sending a 1st(!) rounder to the Saints for Howard.

Now at his best, Howard is worth a 1st rounder, but with his problems staying healthy, I think the Cowboys would be overpaying with a 1st, even if its in the 20s and they have another pick.

[TazFTW]

Falcons sign G Matt Lehr to a 3 year deal.


Titans might bring back Eddie George.

[JAG]

New rumors in the Darren Howard situation(there is a new one every few days):

Dallas and another team(rumored to be seattle) are talking with Howards agent about contracts. A bidding competition which is rumored to have Dallas considering sending a 1st(!) rounder to the Saints for Howard.

Now at his best, Howard is worth a 1st rounder, but with his problems staying healthy, I think the Cowboys would be overpaying with a 1st, even if its in the 20s and they have another pick.

I read today a source has Dallas trading a second round pick plus MLB Dat Nguyen for Howard. I think that's giving up a bit much for him, but it would be their best DL by far since their 90's Super Bowl days if it happens.

[TazFTW]

Vikings signs S Darren Sharper to a 4 year deal.

[TazFTW]

Pasquarelli is reporting that the Lions have agreed in principle a deal that would bring in Jeff Garcia.

[Honolulu_Blue]

Pasquarelli is reporting that the Lions have agreed in principle a deal that would bring in Jeff Garcia.
So the QB controversy in Detroit begins...

I think Garcia was the natural choice. He knows Mooch. He knows the system. I think the over/under on the number of games Harrington starts next year is 4.

[BigJohn&TheLions]

YAY!!! Now the Lions actually have someone who can get the receivers the damn ball. I hope Mooch has a very short leash on #3...

[Swaggs]

Looks like there may be a bit of mutual interest between the Eagles and Burress. Possibly for just a one-year deal, presumably for Burress to get some numbers and try for another payday next season. He would probably fit in pretty well. Despite what some people say, I don't think Burress is a disruptive-type personality. He seems like he is just sort of a loner and a little lethargic.

Pure speculation on my part here, but I wonder if Burress may have a few positive drug tests to his name and if that may be making teams wary of signing him. If he is one positive test away from getting suspended or something, even if it was a few years ago, that could scare teams off.

[TLK]

The Garcia signing is nice. It also sounds like Rick DeMulling will sign early next week. The Lions have played a smart off-season.

[Honolulu_Blue]

The Garcia signing is nice. It also sounds like Rick DeMulling will sign early next week. The Lions have played a smart off-season.
Where'd you hear the DeMulling bit?

[Bubba Wheels]

YAY!!! Now the Lions actually have someone who can get the receivers the damn ball. I hope Mooch has a very short leash on #3...

Great! Now the Lions can choose between a QB who can throw the ball a whole 3 yards and hit someone, or a QB who can throw a whole 3 yards and not! I haven't been this excited since the Lions added black accents to their uniforms! zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

[Eaglesfan27]

Looks like there may be a bit of mutual interest between the Eagles and Burress. Possibly for just a one-year deal, presumably for Burress to get some numbers and try for another payday next season. He would probably fit in pretty well. Despite what some people say, I don't think Burress is a disruptive-type personality. He seems like he is just sort of a loner and a little lethargic.

Pure speculation on my part here, but I wonder if Burress may have a few positive drug tests to his name and if that may be making teams wary of signing him. If he is one positive test away from getting suspended or something, even if it was a few years ago, that could scare teams off.
I've heard the Eagles-Burress rumors, and I like it for both sides. He could be a nice compliment to T.O and I think the other receivers would be very good as a #3. He could help make their offense even better, and they can help him get a good contract somewhere else in a year. I don't think it would be that disruptive to the Eagles if he were suspended either as they have enough veteran leadership and good coaching to deal with that sort of situation.

[Eaglesfan27]

Dola -

I actually signed him in Madden for that reason and he helped me win the Super Bowl the following year (I lost to N.E. in the Superbowl in my first season which was played back in October or November.)

[TazFTW]

Raiders sign DE Derrick Burgess (Eagles) to a 5 year, $17.5 million deal with a $6 million signing bonus.


DT Hollis Thomas has asked the Eagles to trade or release him as he is unhappy with his contract..

[sovereignstar]

This is from Len Pasquarelli's latest column:

Minnesota officials might now turn their attention, however, to offense. The club has made a contract offer to unrestricted free agent wide receiver Plaxico Burress, and the former Pittsburgh Steelers star is seriously considering the proposal. A deal could come over the weekend.

Edit: Apparently, a six-year deal is on the table.

[TazFTW]

49ers head coach Mike Nolan thinks WR Braylon Edwards is the top player available. Will he select him #1?

[Arles]

Information on the Sharper deal is out. It appears it is a 4-year $17 million deal with a bonus of almost $5 million. Good for Darren for getting that kind of money. Sammy Knight was a better safety in 04 and he just signed a 5-year $11 million deal with a $2.7 million SB.

[JAG]

Now it's being reported that the Cowboys are still high on DE Darren Howard, but will not offer Dat Nguyen for him (yay).

[Sharpieman]

49ers head coach Mike Nolan thinks WR Braylon Edwards is the top player available. Will he select him #1?
There is a very good chance this will happen. Sources have said that Nolan really isn't impressed with Alex Smith or Aaron Rodgers. Braylon could be the man as Cedric Wilson is gone and Rashuan Woods looks like he's a bust (even though he was injured and didn't get enough playing time. I think they're giving up too early :mad: ). They really shouldn't take Edwards with the first pick, but theres a good possibility that it will happen. *sigh*

[Swaggs]

Looks like the Steelers and Ty Law might have something going on.
__________________________________


Ty Law, Steelers to meet Monday
Mike Bires, Times Sports Staff
03/13/2005

PITTSBURGH - Even though the Steelers aren't in desperate need of a cornerback, there's a chance Ty Law could be playing for Pittsburgh next season.

Still hobbling on a surgically repaired foot, Law helped cheer on his alma mater Saturday in a PIAA basketball game. And as he left Duquesne University's Palumbo Center after Aliquippa's 72-70 win over Quaker Valley, Law confirmed that he plans on meeting with the Steelers again soon.

"I'm trying to stay low-key and not say too much about it," said Law, the former New England Patriots' star cornerback who was released by the Super Bowl champs three weeks ago as a salary cap casualty.

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"I'm here until Monday. I have to go back and visit with the Steelers again and then I have to go make a couple more stops."

Law, a 31-year-old veteran of 10 NFL seasons, first stopped by Steelers headquarters on the South Side of Pittsburgh on Thursday. He met with coach Bill Cowher and several defensive coaches. He met with owner Dan Rooney. And he met with the Steelers' chief orthopedic surgeon, Dr. James Bradley.

Even though their top four cornerbacks are under contract - Deshea Townsend, Willie Williams, Ricardo Colclough and Ike Taylor - the Steelers are intrigued by Law and are serious about opening negotiations with Law's agents pending the outcome of more tests of Law's foot.

Law suffered a season-ending mid-foot fracture in the Patriots' loss to the Steelers on Oct. 31 at Heinz Field in Pittsburgh.

In January, Law underwent surgery to repair ligament damage in his foot. He is still wearing a soft cast as he rehabilitates his injured foot.

Other teams that might be interested in Law's services include the Kansas City Chiefs, Cleveland Browns, New York Jets, Oakland Raiders and Dallas Cowboys.

A four-time Pro Bowl selection, Law would have been a $12.5 million salary cap hit if the Patriots would have kept him. He was due to make a base salary of $8.75 million, a $1 million roster bonus plus roughly $2.75 million from his pro-rated signing bonus. Six years ago, Law signed a seven-year contract worth an estimated $51 million.

Even though they recently re-signed kicker Jeff Reed and signed former San Francisco 49ers wide receiver Cedrick Wilson via free agency, the Steelers still could sign Law if they deem him healthy enough to play next year.

Because of the millions he's already made, money isn't a major issue for Law right now. He's willing to accept less money in order to play for a contender.

The Steelers might not have a lot of salary cap room (the cap this year is $85.5 million per team), but they should be contenders again next season. Last season, they went 16-2 and lost to the Patriots in the AFC Championship Game.

[Cuckoo]

Now it's being reported that the Cowboys are still high on DE Darren Howard, but will not offer Dat Nguyen for him (yay).

Thank God. Howard's a very good player, but not worth a first and Nguyen in my opinion.

[Cap Ologist]

Because of the millions he's already made, money isn't a major issue for Law right now. He's willing to accept less money in order to play for a contender.

Umm, then why didn't he restructure and stay with the Pats? And why did he cause such a mess last year about not trusting Belichick?





Edit: I'm quoting the article, not a comment made by Swaggs.

[Honolulu_Blue]

There is a very good chance this will happen. Sources have said that Nolan really isn't impressed with Alex Smith or Aaron Rodgers. Braylon could be the man as Cedric Wilson is gone and Rashuan Woods looks like he's a bust (even though he was injured and didn't get enough playing time. I think they're giving up too early :mad: ). They really shouldn't take Edwards with the first pick, but theres a good possibility that it will happen. *sigh*
Who would you rather they take? Don't say trade down, because that's not a very realistic proposition in this draft...

Poor Braylon gets nothin' but static from folks. He's a great wideout. I guess folks are turned off by the lack of success UofM receivers taken in the first round (eg, Terrell, Howard, etc.) have had in the NFL.

Braylon's a great player. He took over games in college. That's not an easy thing to do as a wideout.

[Bad-example]

49ers head coach Mike Nolan thinks WR Braylon Edwards is the top player available. Will he select him #1?

The guess here is that Nolan is trying to throw a little scare into the teams picking 2-5 that are hoping to draft Edwards. Trading down is likely the 49ers preference, and Nolan might just be trying to add some doubt to bring out a potential trade partner.

[albionmoonlight]

Thank God. Howard's a very good player, but not worth a first and Nguyen in my opinion.
The rumor in N.O. is that it would be for a second and Nguyen.

Having watched Howard for a few years, I think that he has the ability to be a 20 sack guy. He's our best pass rusher by far when he is healthy.

But, he has trouble staying healthy and is not the strongest DE against the run.

[Cuckoo]

The rumor in N.O. is that it would be for a second and Nguyen.

Having watched Howard for a few years, I think that he has the ability to be a 20 sack guy. He's our best pass rusher by far when he is healthy.

But, he has trouble staying healthy and is not the strongest DE against the run.

I just really like Dat Nguyen. He's not big, but he's a playmaker, a leader, and a stand-up guy by all accounts. That's a rare combination in my opinion, and I would hate the Cowboys to lose him. He's the kind of guy they need.

I would not have a problem with the Cowboys offering a first for Howard, and possibly even a first and another draft pick next year. But it sounds like N.O. wants two firsts for him or a really good player in addition to a pick.

[bigmike75]

Am I the only Cowboys fan bothered by the fact that in the year we are switching to a 3-4 we are releasing or trying to trade our best linebackers, without signing any replacements?

[Tigercat]

I don't know about 20 sacks, but if healthy for a whole season I think Howard can put up ~15 sacks with a lot of forced fumbles. (He gets to a lot of plays around the edge with a combo of pass rush skills and power for a DE, but he is often not in a position to get a full hit, putting him in position for a lot of hurries and the chance to force a lot of fumbles over the course of a full season.) But its a big if when saying if Howard is healthy for a whole season. Hes not the worst of the injury prone, but hes one of those guys that always finds a way to miss at least a few games over the course of a season.

[dawgfan]

The Seahawks re-signed OG/OT Floyd "Pork Chop" Womack to a 2-year deal (financial numbers not yet available). "Pork Chop" has got to be one of the best nicknames in the NFL...

[TazFTW]

Plaxico has fired his agent and will now be represented by Drew Rosenhaus.

The Bengals sign DT Bryan Robinson (Dolphins) to a 3 year deal.

[cthomer5000]

The Patriots signed WR Tim Dwight to a one year deal. Good signing, IMHO.

[General Mike]

Ernie Accorsi has no clue what hes doing. That is all.

[sovereignstar]

Didn't Dwight sign on Friday morning?

[cthomer5000]

Didn't Dwight sign on Friday morning?
Ah, good point. I swear I had read this entire thread, but somehow missed that news entirely until reading it today.

doh.

[FrogMan]

Umm, then why didn't he restructure and stay with the Pats? And why did he cause such a mess last year about not trusting Belichick?





Edit: I'm quoting the article, not a comment made by Swaggs.
that part of the article just doesn't make sense to me, completely stupid. Why wouldn't he??? Right now, I'm guessing that the "money is not an issue to him" may be the opinion of the writer more than Law himself, and if not, Law is saying one thing and doing another...

FM

[flere-imsaho]

49ers head coach Mike Nolan thinks WR Braylon Edwards is the top player available. Will he select him #1?

Given the lack of a "can't-miss" Franchise QB, and given all of the 49ers needs, I'll be very disappointed in them if they fail to trade down.

[mhass]

All joking aside, Doug Flutie back to the Bears is a real possibility. [Wiggles cyanide tablet loose from false tooth.]

[WSUCougar]

Man, the Vikes are going to town this off-season...I love it!

[sachmo71]

All joking aside, Doug Flutie back to the Bears is a real possibility. [Wiggles cyanide tablet loose from false tooth.]

Guess Jeff won't wake up if that happened.

[Fonzie]

Man, the Vikes are going to town this off-season...I love it!


I don't! I'm a Packers fan, of course, and am left wondering: when did the Vikings' front office grow a brain? More importantly, why did they grow a brain? I was perfectly happy with the status quo. :)

[mhass]

The Vikes will probably forget they have Oakland's draft spot and not turn in a pick until Round 3. That will even out their off-season.

[sterlingice]

Given the lack of a "can't-miss" Franchise QB, and given all of the 49ers needs, I'll be very disappointed in them if they fail to trade down.
Every drafy, everybody always wants their team to trade down it seems. But the problem, particularly this year, is that no one wants to trade up. What do you do if the best offer for trading up is the, I dunno, #10 in the 1st round and a 5th. Might as well stay at #2.

SI

[albionmoonlight]

Every drafy, everybody always wants their team to trade down it seems. But the problem, particularly this year, is that no one wants to trade up.
I agree completely. The only player for whom I have heard teams wanting to trade up is Derek(sp?) Johnson from Texas. Of course, workouts could change things, but it is a crappiest year in recent memory to have the #1 overall pick.

[TazFTW]

I agree completely. The only player for whom I have heard teams wanting to trade up is Derek(sp?) Johnson from Texas. Of course, workouts could change things, but it is a crappiest year in recent memory to have the #1 overall pick.
With all the talk about the 49ers taking Braylon Edwards, the rumors are that the Buccaneers are trying to trade up, so that they can take Mike Williams before the Bears do. I don't think there will be movement for #1 but 2-10 should be interesting.


Dolphins sign QB Gus Frerotte and are going to release FB Rob Konrad.

Giants release DT Norman Hand.

Texans release LB Jay Foreman

Orlando Pace is visiting the Texans, he is the Rams franchise player, so the Texans will give up 2 first rounders if Pace signs with them or the Texans try to trade for him.

[mhass]

There is all the talk of SF just "inflating" Edwards to generate interest in trading up, but with two solid WR prospects at the top, I don't see anybody doing anything to get a WR. The Williams-Bears connection is so wildly debated around Chicago that I have no idea what to think. The sports media and the Bear organization says it's Ronnie Brown, done deal. But I can't help but think WR is a better option even with Muhammed on board. I wonder if the RB talk wasn't more of the same "inflating" to try to move down or at least throw off draft strategies.

[Ksyrup]

Dolphins sign QB Gus Frerotte and are going to release FB Rob Konrad.Damn. My Broncos are having a hard time finding a backup QB.

[WSUCougar]

Damn. My Broncos are having a hard time finding a backup QB.
I hear Doug Flutie is available...

[Scarecrow]

THIS JUST IN....................................

























Ed Hartwell still hasn't decided where he'll sign.

[Ksyrup]

I hear Doug Flutie is available...
He would actually be perfect. Jake can keep us in the game by throwing TDs, then put us in a position to lose by tossing a few INTs, then we can bring in Flutie to rescue us with 5 minutes left in the 4th quarter. Sounds like a plan!

[Travis]

THIS JUST IN....................................

























Ed Hartwell still hasn't decided where he'll sign.

Please be Seattle, please!

[bigdawg2003]

Orlando Pace's days as the franchise player of the St. Louis Rams might be coming to an end.

Days before a Wednesday deadline to get a long-term contract with the Rams, Pace and his new agent, Kennard McGuire, flew to Houston on Monday to visit the Texans. Their goal: to facilitate a trade that would end his eight-year career as the Rams' left tackle.

The Rams have franchised Pace for three consecutive years. Under terms of that designation, the Rams have until Wednesday to work out a long-term contract and regain the ability to franchise a player in 2006. Any long agreement reached between Wednesday and July 15 would cost St. Louis its franchise tag for the length of that contract.

Pace and the Rams have been discussing a long-term deal for the past two weeks. At different points during the past month, there have been thoughts that the Rams would either trade Pace or that the former Ohio State offensive lineman would ask to be traded.

The fact that Pace spent the day in Houston shows that he is willing to move on. It's his right as an unsigned franchise player to visit other teams and talk contract, but the timing of Monday's visit signifies questions in his mind whether he can get a long-term deal done with the Rams.

The 29-year-old former first-round pick recently hired McGuire and Fletcher Smith two weeks ago after not being represented by an agent since the middle of the season. McGuire, who accompanied Pace on the trip to Houston, was unavailable for comment.

The Rams would have to receive two first-round picks if Pace signs an offer sheet, but if Pace intends to leave the Rams for the Texans, it would be more likely the sides would have to work out a trade for a first-round choice and something in addition. At the scouting combine in Indianapolis, the New York Giants and a couple other teams heard initial inquiries from the Rams about the possibility of trading Pace.

Those thoughts died down when Pace hired his new agents. The Rams were excited about Pace hiring agents in time to do a long-term contract before the start of their offseason program.

Pace was the first selection in the 1997 draft. He signed his first contract Aug. 16 after a long holdout. He's been to two Super Bowls and two Pro Bowls as a Ram.

The 6-foot-7, 325-pound Pace played his college ball at Ohio State.

John Clayton is a senior NFL writer for ESPN.com.





A move like this might be enough to put the Texans in the playoffs. Also, can any Dolphins fans tell me about Greenwood and how good/not good he is?

[JeffNights]

For some reason, i want my Lions to trade down to the late first round for pheraps another second round pick, and the take David Baas with the late first rounder.

The Lions have a big hole they could fill with Baas, who is very versitile on that O-Line.

[cthomer5000]

Anthony Becht signs with Tampa.... finally he's gone!!! hooray!

[rkmsuf]

Anthony Becht signs with Tampa.... finally he's gone!!! hooray!

I don't think I've ever seen that guy make a play. He's like a ghost out there.

[WSUCougar]

Word in STL this morning is that the Texans have signed Pace to an offer sheet.

[mhass]

A better offer than the franchise tag gets him. He's gone.

[Hammer755]

Man, the Vikes are going to town this off-season...I love it!
Minnesota has certainly improved itself a ton on paper, but IIRC doing so via a mass off-season spending spree usually doesn't work as well as anticipated. I don't really have specific examples that I can think of, but it's always been my understanding that free agency in the NFL rarely works out as well as it does in other sports.

Am I simply imagining this, or can somebody confirm it, as I'm sure I've read/seen the topic broached before?

[mhass]

Uh, Redskins?

[Fonzie]

Minnesota has certainly improved itself a ton on paper, but IIRC doing so via a mass off-season spending spree usually doesn't work as well as anticipated. I don't really have specific examples that I can think of, but it's always been my understanding that free agency in the NFL rarely works out as well as it does in other sports.

Am I simply imagining this, or can somebody confirm it, as I'm sure I've read/seen the topic broached before?

Well, I don't know of any studies on this topic, but I seem to recall Dan Snyder spending an absurd amount of free agent money a few seasons ago and getting an 8-8 (or something like that) return on his investment.

And as a Packers fan, I hope you're right. :)

[Joe]

Minnesota has certainly improved itself a ton on paper, but IIRC doing so via a mass off-season spending spree usually doesn't work as well as anticipated. I don't really have specific examples that I can think of, but it's always been my understanding that free agency in the NFL rarely works out as well as it does in other sports.

Am I simply imagining this, or can somebody confirm it, as I'm sure I've read/seen the topic broached before?


well the defense can't get much worse, so I'd say its a good gamble.

[TazFTW]

Cardinals sign LB Orlando Huff to a 2 year deal.

According to the NY Post, WR David Terrell is expected to sign with the Giants this week.

[rkmsuf]

what a horrid signing if they do by the Giants.

[JasonC23]

According to the NY Post, WR David Terrell is expected to sign with the Giants this week.
Dear Giants,

Ha ha!

Love,
Bears Fans

[Swaggs]

Word in STL this morning is that the Texans have signed Pace to an offer sheet.


I can't ever remember a franchised player actually ever being signed away with his new team giving up the two first-round picks. Has it happened before? It seems like there is usually a trade worked out.

[stevew]

I can't ever remember a franchised player actually ever being signed away with his new team giving up the two first-round picks. Has it happened before? It seems like there is usually a trade worked out.


Shawn Gilbert left via Free agency from the skins to the Panthers. And Galloway left to dallas too. Its rare, but not totally unlikely.
Its the next 2 Texans picks right, or is it any 2 first rounders?

[TazFTW]

Vikings sign WR Travis Taylor.

Jaguars re-sign WR Troy Edwards and RB Chris Fuamatu-Ma'afala.

[JasonC23]

Vikings sign WR Travis Taylor.

Jaguars re-sign WR Troy Edwards and RB Chris Fuamatu-Ma'afala.
Wow. Travis Taylor has a job, David Terrell may have one soon...and Plaxico is still looking for work? :eek:

[TazFTW]

Well, according to the NFL Network, Plaxico turned down a 6 year $36 million deal from the Vikings. He wants a $12-15 million signing bonus.

[Fonzie]

Well, according to the NFL Network, Plaxico turned down a 6 year $36 million deal from the Vikings. He wants a $12-15 million signing bonus.

That's nutty.

[Ksyrup]

He's banking on Rosenhaus conning the Dolphins or some shit like that.

[Honolulu_Blue]

Dear Giants,

Ha ha!

Love,
Bears Fans
Screw this. I am standing by my fellow alumn. Sure he's had on some on-field and off-field issues since he departed the comfortable confines of Ann Arbor and the Big House, but I think he's still got some good football with in him. He's been stuck on a crappy Bears team his entire career with their crappy offense and their crappy quarterbacks.

He, like fellow Wolverine Amani Toomer, will flourish in the Big Apple. Go forth and prosper, young man!!

[JasonC23]

Screw this. I am standing by my fellow alumn. Sure he's had on some on-field and off-field issues since he departed the comfortable confines of Ann Arbor and the Big House, but I think he's still got some good football with in him. He's been stuck on a crappy Bears team his entire career with their crappy offense and their crappy quarterbacks.

He, like fellow Wolverine Amani Toomer, will flourish in the Big Apple. Go forth and prosper, young man!!
Come, now, I think you sell DT short by saying he had "some" issues. Let's review...

On-field issues: Can't catch, doesn't run crisp routes, led the league in penalty yardage by a skill-position player, celebrates 5-yard reception as if he's just won the Super Bowl

Off-field issues: Is generally a jackass, had some sort of run-in with the law (expired license? DUI? My memory failes me)

I'm really hoping he and FredEx end up on the same team. That would be UIC at its finest.

[TazFTW]

S Tebucky Jones is released by the Saints and he has signed a 2 year contract with the Dolphins.

[mhass]

Screw this. I am standing by my fellow alumn. Sure he's had on some on-field and off-field issues since he departed the comfortable confines of Ann Arbor and the Big House, but I think he's still got some good football with in him. He's been stuck on a crappy Bears team his entire career with their crappy offense and their crappy quarterbacks.

He, like fellow Wolverine Amani Toomer, will flourish in the Big Apple. Go forth and prosper, young man!!
Keep that positive attitude. He's not good. The "crappy Bears team" is not why he was unproductive. He got the shot to be the man this year and failed. Even when Rex was in there, Bobby Wade looked much better.

[WSUCougar]

According to the NY Post, WR David Terrell is expected to sign with the Giants this week.
Aren't David Terrell and Ike Hilliard the same guy? :confused:

[Swaggs]

Steelers are working on a deal with OL Stocker McDougal of Detroit. If he signs, he will compete with Max Starks for the RT job that is open.

[TazFTW]

Dolphins sign OT Stockar McDougal to a 1 year deal.

Packers re-sign G/C Grey Ruegamer.

The Cowboys were surprised when DE Darren Howard had asked them for a 6 year $33 million deal with a $16 million signing bonus.

[TazFTW]

Steelers are working on a deal with OL Stocker McDougal of Detroit. If he signs, he will compete with Max Starks for the RT job that is open.
Too late for the Steelers.

[MikeVic]

The Cowboys were surprised when DE Darren Howard had asked them for a 6 year $33 million deal with a $16 million signing bonus.

Is it just me, or is there something funny about this line? "The Cowboys were surprised." I can only picture Jerry Jones sitting at his desk... then a fax comes in, he looks at it, and gets wide-eyed and open his mouth to let out a gasp of air. Heh. "That request surprised me!"

:)

[DeToxRox]

David Terrell, sorry, just didn't cut it.

People are stupid to hold him against Braylon Edwards though. Edwards does it all. He can catch, makes plays, leads the team, and one thing he does better then any WR out of college I've seen in a long time is block. He is a punishing blocker.

Terrell never blocked in college, only made some spectacular catches, but benefited mostly from Henson and A-Train. I think people need to realize Terrell and Edwards are two different monsters, and that Edwards is worth the investment as a top 3 pick.

[Honolulu_Blue]

David Terrell, sorry, just didn't cut it.

People are stupid to hold him against Braylon Edwards though. Edwards does it all. He can catch, makes plays, leads the team, and one thing he does better then any WR out of college I've seen in a long time is block. He is a punishing blocker.

Terrell never blocked in college, only made some spectacular catches, but benefited mostly from Brady and A-Train. I think people need to realize Terrell and Edwards are two different monsters, and that Edwards is worth the investment as a top 3 pick.
Fixed that one for ya. ;)

[Honolulu_Blue]

Come, now, I think you sell DT short by saying he had "some" issues. Let's review...

On-field issues: Can't catch, doesn't run crisp routes, led the league in penalty yardage by a skill-position player, celebrates 5-yard reception as if he's just won the Super Bowl

Off-field issues: Is generally a jackass, had some sort of run-in with the law (expired license? DUI? My memory failes me)

I'm really hoping he and FredEx end up on the same team. That would be UIC at its finest.
Water under the bridge, man...

I am on the David Terrell bandwagon!! I think it's just me and David's mama right now, but that's a-ok!!!

[DeToxRox]

Fixed that one for ya. ;)

Haha, valid.

He and Drew did show signs of greatness together though.

Funny that now they struggle in the NFL, while Brady is the posterboy.

[Honolulu_Blue]

Keep that positive attitude. He's not good. The "crappy Bears team" is not why he was unproductive. He got the shot to be the man this year and failed. Even when Rex was in there, Bobby Wade looked much better.
Didn't DT lead the Bears' in receiving yards this year? Come on! DT looked pretty good in that first game against the Lions, 5 catches, 126 yards (despite a couple really stupid 15 yard penalties).

I am keeping up my positive attitude! I am forward looking. Yes, his pro career hasn't been all that good. But, there's still hope. DT will be the comeback player of the year. Then again if he goes to New York, he cannot be held responsible for Eli Manning's sucking.

[Honolulu_Blue]

Haha, valid.

He and Drew did show signs of greatness together though.

Funny that now they struggle in the NFL, while Brady is the posterboy.
They did. I recall the Ohio State game. But I really remember that bowl game against Alabama where it looked like Shaun Alexander was going to run all over Michigan. Well, he did, but Brady and Terrell took that game over, rallied the game into OT, and we won on a missed XP.

Screw Henson. He's a bitch. He quite football to play baseball, left UofM to join the Yankees to play minor league ball in Columbus. That's just so wrong on so many levels...

[DeToxRox]

They did. I recall the Ohio State game. But I really remember that bowl game against Alabama where it looked like Shaun Alexander was going to run all over Michigan. Well, he did, but Brady and Terrell took that game over, rallied the game into OT, and we won on a missed XP.

Screw Henson. He's a bitch. He quite football to play baseball, left UofM to join the Yankees to play minor league ball in Columbus. That's just so wrong on so many levels...

Oh the memories.

96-97 was the year though.

All the years Michigan ruined OSU's National Titlte bids, and then it was OSU's turn to do the same, and Woodson won the Heisman that day.

Ahh, I miss college football already.

[bosshogg23]

Rams wont trade Pace (http://cbs.sportsline.com/nfl/story/8295115)

St. Louis says they "won't" trade Pace.

"The Rams believe they made Pace a fair offer, a seven-year deal worth $52.8 million, with $15 million in signing bonus. But Pace believes it's not commensurate with the contract signed by Seattle tackle Walter Jones -- a seven-year, $52.5 million deal, with $16 million in signing bonus.

The Rams counter that Jones, who is scheduled to earn $1.7 million in pay his first season, would reap $17.7 million when the first year was over and that Pace, offered $3 million in pay his first season, would pull down $18 million."

Isnt all that matters the money that occurs during the first season? Signing bonuses are guaranteed and nothing beyond that. Its great that both have offers for 7 years. Neither will see year 6 of that, let alone year 7.

[TazFTW]

Seahawks sign DE Bryce Fisher (Rams) for 4 years, $10 million.

Patriots re-sign OT Tom Ashworth.

[MikeVic]

So Pace is saying that a million dollar difference in signing bonus is what makes the contract not equal to Jones? I mean, technically he's right... but come on!

[TazFTW]

The Bengals have signed Rudi Johnson to a 5 year, $26 million deal.

The Browns sign LB Matt Stewart (Falcons) to a 3 year deal.

[JasonC23]

Didn't DT lead the Bears' in receiving yards this year?
Dude, YOU could have led the Bears in receiving this year. ;)

[rkmsuf]

DT has little speed. That's the major problem. That and not a great route runner.

Maybe if he runs bad routes he'll be in the perfect spot for the Manning errant throws.

[mhass]

He would still have to catch the ball in his vicinity. I haven't seen him do that regularly.

[QuikSand]

"The Rams believe they made Pace a fair offer, a seven-year deal worth $52.8 million, with $15 million in signing bonus. But Pace believes it's not commensurate with the contract signed by Seattle tackle Walter Jones -- a seven-year, $52.5 million deal, with $16 million in signing bonus.

The Rams counter that Jones, who is scheduled to earn $1.7 million in pay his first season, would reap $17.7 million when the first year was over and that Pace, offered $3 million in pay his first season, would pull down $18 million."

Before we reach our own conclusions, let's keep in mind that we clearly don't have the whole story here. We knoe the bonus, and we knoe the first year salary. But there may well be some "cliff effect" escalation in there, which makes this a deal where he gets paid up fromt, plays a few years for a low salary, and then gets cut/renegotiated before the real salary kicks in. It's certainly possible thet there are vast differences between these two contracts -- potentially *way* beyond the one million dollar difference being described.

[Swaggs]

Rudi Johnson gets $26M. I love having the Bengals in the division.

[TazFTW]

The Vikings have signed Brad Johnson to a 4 year, $6 million deal with a $1.2 mil signing bonus.


Reports are coming out of St. Louis that the Rams will sign Orlando Pace to a 7 year, $52.8 million deal with an $18 million signing bonus.

[rkmsuf]

The Vikings have signed Brad Johnson to a 4 year, $6 million deal with a $1.2 mil signing bonus.


Reports are coming out of St. Louis that the Rams will sign Orlando Pace to a 7 year, $52.8 million deal with an $18 million signing bonus.

Man that's a lot for Pace. I guess you have to since it's hard to find good LTs and I suppose he's good for 5 more years.

[rkmsuf]

Rudi Johnson gets $26M. I love having the Bengals in the division.

That means Chris Perry is junk.

[Deattribution]

The Vikings have signed Brad Johnson to a 4 year, $6 million deal with a $1.2 mil signing bonus.



The most amusing part of this signing, was the ESPN article about it, I never realized Washington gave up 1st, 2nd and 3rd round draft choices for Brad Johnson. And the Vikings drafted Culpepper with the 1st round choice the next year... How bout those Skins! Patience really does pay off :rolleyes:

[rkmsuf]

The most amusing part of this signing, was the ESPN article about it, I never realized Washington gave up 1st, 2nd and 3rd round draft choices for Brad Johnson. And the Vikings drafted Culpepper with the 1st round choice the next year... How bout those Skins! Patience really does pay off :rolleyes:

Wow, I had forgotten about that. Timing is everything I guess.

[Honolulu_Blue]

That means Chris Perry is junk.
Yeah. Apparently he's going to have another surgery for another sports hernia. Not good news. Poor Chris Perry. I was pretty happy when he was drafted ahead of Steven Jackson or Kevin Jones. Though I appreciate what Chris did for the Maize and Blue, but I really didn't have high hopes for him in the NFL.

[cthomer5000]

I'm a bit surprised at the Rudi Johnson signing. Unless they know for a fact that Chris Perry can't be a #1 (whether because of injury or ineptitude) then it seems like they might have acted a little quickly. I had expected them to let him play the year out to make sure Perry couldn't fill his shoes.

[scooper]

I'm a bit surprised at the Rudi Johnson signing. Unless they know for a fact that Chris Perry can't be a #1 (whether because of injury or ineptitude) then it seems like they might have acted a little quickly. I had expected them to let him play the year out to make sure Perry couldn't fill his shoes.


I don't think they know what to make of Perry yet and that's why it became important to re-sign Rudi.

In reality, a sports hernia will keep you out of action, but it's an injury you can recover fully from in way less time than a full offseason. My wife had one and was working out in about 6 weeks. But the second injury is troubling.

At worst, Perry never fully heals and is cut in a couple years. The cap hit is not good, but he was the 26th pick as opposed to the top 10 guys the team is used to drafting, so he's not taking nearly as much space as say, Peter Warrick. He's probably hurting the team worse than Perry right now.

At best, Perry recovers and becomes a good change of pace back. There is no rule against having two good rb's on your roster. During their last superbowl run, James Brooks and Ickey Woods were both 1,000 backs.

[scooper]

Dola,

In an odd twist, DT Tony Williams is visiting the Broncos. That's a strange choice to visit the team whose "questionable" blocking schemes ended his season.

[Deattribution]

Dola,

In an odd twist, DT Tony Williams is visiting the Broncos. That's a strange choice to visit the team whose "questionable" blocking schemes ended his season.

Maybe he brought a gun with him.

[henry296]

Dola,

In an odd twist, DT Tony Williams is visiting the Broncos. That's a strange choice to visit the team whose "questionable" blocking schemes ended his season.

Better to play for them than against them.

[JasonC23]

Wait, so who is going to be the Bears' backup QB??

[TazFTW]

Edgerin James signed his 1 year franchise tender.

The Patriots are not looking to sign K Adam Vinatieri to a long term deal this offseason, he is their franchise player.

[Cap Ologist]

Wait, so who is going to be the Bears' backup QB??
Jim McMahon

[JasonC23]

Jim McMahon
With or without the Rozelle headband?