Fire Joe Torre

[tdydynasty]

2nd worst team in baseball. George needs to fire him now. 4-7 record.

[Joe]

shit, if they're the 2nd worst, keep him around for a long time.

[gottimd]

shit, if they're the 2nd worst, keep him around for a long time.
Couldn't agree with you more. Can they take away those 4 wins?

[GreenMonster]

As a longtime Sox fan nothing makes me happier than already uneasy Yankee fans. After last year if they don't make the playoffs the suicide rate around the country will rise. GreenMonster

[Ksyrup]

Amazing. I was flipping around looking for a game to watch, and saw them get a few insurance runs off of Kline, so I moved on to the Cubs game. Damn, I wish I hadn't done that!

[sovereignstar]

2nd worst team in baseball. George needs to fire him now. 4-7 record.

You would fit in well in the NBA owners circle.

[Ksyrup]

No trip to Japan to blame a slow start on, either. Not that I wish injury on anyone, but man, a couple of well-placed nagging injuries, and this could be a train wreck of a season.

We can hope, anyway. I'm sure by mid-September, Marmel will pull this thread out and be laughing at us all.

[TroyF]

One of those things you know won't last, but it's nice to see the Devil Rays and the Yankees with the same record right now. :)

[EagleFan]

No over-reaction here. We're sorry for you that they cuoldn't start 11-0.

Now for the good hearted people in the world, we hope that they won't have to settle for just 2nd worst.

[SirFozzie]

They're 4-7.. they're not a 4-7 team. It's still early in the season, and they've been there before. Enjoy their frustration while they're down, but just remember, those kicks folks get in could be returned at the end of the year if the Yanks come back :D

[jetpunk2000]

Fire Willie Randolph. That was a popular one last week. Now he's a hero. Just goes to show ya how fickle fans are. I am a Mets fan, but I've always liked and respected Torre. If anyone in baseball deserves to go when HE wants, it's Torre. Having said that, I think the whole Yankee thing has gotten to his ego in recent years. He's not the same guy I rooted for back in 1996 when they won their first. (And for any Met fan to root for ANY Yankee is hard). He's gotten to the point where any criticism of him or the team sends him into these long-winded defenses like it's us-against the world.

[tdydynasty]

They need to fire Torre this second. Little League Teams are better than the Yankees. May finish 4-158.

[JonInMiddleGA]

If it doesn't turn around significantly by this time next month, my money is now on a complete housecleaning, Torre & his entire coaching staff.

Right, wrong, or indifferent, that's what I believe is going to happen.

[clintl]

It wouldn't be the first time the Yankees have fired a Hall of Fame manager.

[Ryan S]

Statement from the boss.

Enough is enough. I am bitterly disappointed, as I'm sure all Yankee fans are, by the lack of performance by our team. It is unbelievable to me that the highest-paid team in baseball would start the season in such a deep funk. They are not playing like true Yankees. They have the talent to win and they are not winning. I expect Joe Torre, his complete coaching staff and the team to turn this around.

[Desnudo]

If it doesn't turn around significantly by this time next month, my money is now on a complete housecleaning, Torre & his entire coaching staff.

Right, wrong, or indifferent, that's what I believe is going to happen.

Man I hope so. That would certainly mark a return to the mediocrity of the 80s and early 90s.

[sovereignstar]

They need to fire Torre this second. Little League Teams are better than the Yankees. May finish 4-158.

Dude, they've played the equivalent of 1 game in an NFL season. Your vast list of reasons and logic simply don't impress me.

[timmyw3]

I'm just wondering how long it will take people to acknowledge the team that swept the Yankees over the weekend. There are other teams in the AL East besides Boston and New York and from what I've seen so far this year the best one might be the one wearing orange and black.

[SirFozzie]

Baltimore's started good, even with Sammy starting slow. AL East will be interesting this year.

[Ksyrup]

They're 4-7.. they're not a 4-7 team. It's still early in the season, and they've been there before.
Not really. They haven't had a start like this in, what 20+ years?

Still, all teams go through this kind of stretch at some point in a season, so it wouldn't shock me to see them in first by mid-May. That said, this team is old. They're still good even if you factor in declines because of age, but if Brown, RJ, Rivera, Bernie, Sheffield, Gordon, and Giambi (not age, but you know what) start showing their age, either in performance or injury, this could get ugly.

ARod seems to not be handling the pressure all that well, and even though he'll put up his numbers, they won't be huge and they won't be the kind that allows him to put this team on his back and carry them. He's really proving that he's not worth the money, numbers aside. Arguably, Jeter's worth his money, when you factor in intangibles. ARod is probably worth less at this point. I'm sure that's what George is thinking, anyway.

That leaves Matsui, really, as Posado is at the age of decline for catchers and Jeter will never be a huge offensive force by himself. Maybe Sheffield, since he seems to be playing pretty well despite his age. That's a pretty good run of 4 stars (Matsui, ARod, Jeter, and Sheffield). Still, they might not be able to overpower teams as they did in the past, at least not with the kind of regularity we're used to seeing.

With the pitchers, Pavano should be solid, Wright is a question mark (the Yankees didn't fare all that well taking another Braves project, Chris Hammond, and paying him big bucks to duplicate his Atlanta success), and Mussina's getting old and has just never had the great season we've all expected out of him since he first emerged as a great pitcher with Baltimore. I just don't see him doing it now, at his age.

This team is going to continue to suffer the back-end of contracts like Bernie's. Not that they can't afford to replace those guys, but I think the Yanks have a sense of loyalty to the long-timers, in some respect, as well as a sense of pride in the fact that they signed these guys and want to see it happen with them. As bad as the Yanks look to the majority of baseball fans for their unending amount of cash, it would be even worse if they just shed themselves of mistakes year-after-year. They did it with Vazquez last year, but that's been the exception to the rule. Bernie should have been gone a couple of years ago, but they've kept not only his salary, but him. And they're letting him play. He should have been gone, and Beltran should have been signed. Wait until the Mussina/ARod/Jeter/Giambi/Posada contracts start to pile up. It'll be interesting to see if they deal with the roster in a more Patriots-like fashion.

[CraigSca]

I'm a huge O's fan, but as always the starting pitching scares me, and a 162 game season goes a long way in exposing a team's faults.

If Cabrera, who had an outstanding spring, can't turn it around, if Bruce Chen realizes he's Bruce Chen and if Ponson continues his fat mediocrity, they'll quickly fall below .500. HOWEVER, Ray Miller is a great pitching coach and it seems like the kids believe in the "change speeds and hit the corners" approach. You never know...I might see some exciting baseball in August/September. /GASP!

[TroyF]

I'm just wondering how long it will take people to acknowledge the team that swept the Yankees over the weekend. There are other teams in the AL East besides Boston and New York and from what I've seen so far this year the best one might be the one wearing orange and black.

As Craig said, the pitching is what scares you about the O's. I would imagine, just like the Cardinals of last season, respect won't come easy for them. People want to see this staff pitch well for an entire season.

They certainly scare you at the plate, but I'm just not sure those arms are going to be able to hold up.

[Ksyrup]

Yep, pitching is what will likely keep the Orioles from doing much this year. They're like the Reds of the AL.

[timmyw3]

I agree that the pitching is a question mark but they shouldn't be dismissed because of it. Their ERA was over a run lower under Ray Miller once he took over for Mark Wiley in June of last year and that was with Cabrera and Bedard in their first full years.

A big key is the bullpen. On paper they are above average as a group. If they pitch to the level they are capable of they'll take a lot of pressure off the starters. Of course it doesn't hurt to have the lineup that they do.

[Bomber]

They started off last year 5-6 and won 101 games. I guess they'll only win about 95 this year.

[Ksyrup]

They started off last year 5-6 and won 101 games. I guess they'll only win about 95 this year.
Most likely. But that doesn't mean this year's start hasn't given some of us hope that they are going to massively underachieve.

[Philliesfan980]

Wow. 15-2 Yanks in the Bottom of the 3rd. How the Devil Rays weren't contracted are beyond me. Talk about a joke of a team with no chance to be good in the next few years.

Rob Bell's line of 10 earned runs in 1.1 ip, along with 9 hits given up is one of the worst that I've seen in some time.

[Joe]

Wow. 15-2 Yanks in the Bottom of the 3rd. How the Devil Rays weren't contracted are beyond me. Talk about a joke of a team with no chance to be good in the next few years.

Rob Bell's line of 10 earned runs in 1.1 ip, along with 9 hits given up is one of the worst that I've seen in some time.


I bet Steinbrenner's pissed they gave up those 2 runs.

[Philliesfan980]

I bet Steinbrenner's pissed they gave up those 2 runs.


They still suck. Giving up 8 runs to the Rays by the 6th inning? Wright is a fraud, and will come back down to earth now that they test for Roids.