2005 NFL Draft Thread

[cthomer5000]

lets get this f#$$#in thing going aleady!

[fantastic flying froggies]

Let's rock and roll!

[HomerJSimpson]

Is Jim having a chat?

[sovereignstar]

Is Jim having a chat?

Yes.

[HomerJSimpson]

It is not in HD! Dissapointing.

[Solecismic]

There's only so much I can do with a chat, Homer.

[cthomer5000]

where is this chat? i'd seen nothing on it.

[sovereignstar]

We'll be holding an open chat during the draft, in room FOFDraft on the Accessirc Server (irc.accessirc.net).

.

[Bearcat729]

The guy in the ESPN chat says that Travis Henry is going to Philly for a 3rd round pick.

[HomerJSimpson]

There's only so much I can do with a chat, Homer.


Zing! Good one.

[Eaglesfan27]

The guy in the ESPN chat says that Travis Henry is going to Philly for a 3rd round pick.
I'd like that trade for Philly if it happens.

[Joe]

I'd like that trade for Philly if it happens.

would he be starting ahead of Westbrook then?

[Eaglesfan27]

would he be starting ahead of Westbrook then?
I don't think so. I think Reid would rotate them both. Of course, that could create chemistry problems considering Henry's problems in Buffalo, but I think Reid could make it work.

[Draft Dodger]

that's a good deal for both teams, really

[Bearcat729]

Hmm Randy Mueller in the ESPN chat says that it looks like the Dolphins will go with Braylon Edwards.

[Joe]

I don't think so. I think Reid would rotate them both. Of course, that could create chemistry problems considering Henry's problems in Buffalo, but I think Reid could make it work.


thats why I was suprised to see Henry may be going to Philly. If he couldn't handle McGahee, I don't think he could hande a situation with Westbrook.

[Eaglesfan27]

thats why I was suprised to see Henry may be going to Philly. If he couldn't handle McGahee, I don't think he could hande a situation with Westbrook.
The difference is that Westbrook isn't a pound the ball 20 carry/game type of player. I think McGahee could be that type of player. Henry would get plenty of touches in Philly, more than he would in Buffalo.

[fantastic flying froggies]

I can't seem to connect to the irc server.

Could someone post step by step instructions?

[sovereignstar]

File, Select Server
Change IRC Network to Accessirc

Then connect to server and use '#FOFDraft' as your channel.

[Draft Dodger]

guess Ricky Williams isn't coming back...

[Noop]

Damn the Dolphins. Trade the stinking pick you need more stinking picks!!!!!

[sovereignstar]

Why hasn't McPherson been picked yet?

[Noop]

Why hasn't McPherson been picked yet?
Funny I said he would be a first day pick and I will stick to that opinion.

[Joe]

Why hasn't McPherson been picked yet?


Don't worry, the Vikes will grab him.

[Maple Leafs]

So is the Draft Facts page on NFL.com correct... only six players are actually at the draft?

[LionsFan10]

Who's going to take Kirby Puckett?

[Joe]

Who's going to take Kirby Puckett?


?

[Arles]

Better get the weed out of the Chicago locker room ;)

[st.cronin]

I can't believe the niners passed on Jim Leonard.

[cthomer5000]

So is the Draft Facts page on NFL.com correct... only six players are actually at the draft?
that's usually about right. no one wants to risk sitting there for 30 picks.

[Honolulu_Blue]

Suzy Kolber is doing a good job with this interview with Cedric. She's pushing and digging into Cedric's concerns. Not just your usual fluff, letting the players say vague things and then letting it drop. Impressive interview.

[TroyF]

Funny I said he would be a first day pick and I will stick to that opinion.


The Broncos have three third round picks, I'd LOVE for them to draft the guy if he's there.

[cthomer5000]

Suzy Kolber is doing a good job with this interview with Cedric. She's pushing and digging into Cedric's concerns. Not just your usual fluff, letting the players say vague things and then letting it drop. Impressive interview.
It was like a Barbara Walters interview.

[Comey]

Wow @ Cedric Benson. He really is overwhelmed. I'm very impressed by him, and he may have gotten an added fan on this day!

[Comey]

Suzy Kolber is doing a good job with this interview with Cedric. She's pushing and digging into Cedric's concerns. Not just your usual fluff, letting the players say vague things and then letting it drop. Impressive interview.
I will say this about the interview. She really just asked questions that have already been asked (dreds, Ricky Williams, etc). It just worked because he's really touched to be picked as high as he was. So, it's more him, in my opinion. She didn't really give a great interview...it just fell in her lap.

[Honolulu_Blue]

If Rodgers aint picked by the Bucs, he's gonna be one nervous kid in the Green Room.

[Honolulu_Blue]

Looks like it will be Cadillac...

[sovereignstar]

Who's annoyed with these family shots telling us who's gonna be picked, ruining Tagliabue's podium presence? I'm not liking it.

[TazFTW]

that's usually about right. no one wants to risk sitting there for 30 picks.
I remember one year where a guy was waiting in the green room till the late teens/early 20s and then was selected by the Vikings. The story I heard was the guy called Denny Green up and pleaded that he pick him.

[Logan]

Does it seem to anyone else that the satellite reporters (Palantonio, Greenberg) are missing cue cards or something? They seem very flustered.

And the whole ringing of the stock market bell as Tags announces the picks has got to go.

[Noop]

The Broncos have three third round picks, I'd LOVE for them to draft the guy if he's there.
I am sure he maybe gon by the 2nd round... he has talent and in my opinion is the most talented of the QB's in this draft.

[Poli]

Kolber is retarded. Williams told her he has a bet with Ronnie Brown on who would be chosen. She then asks something along the lines of, "Did you and Ronnie have a bet on who would be chosen?"

Even my wife noticed that. Mercy.

[TazFTW]

heh, he has pacman bling.

[Joe]

I remember one year where a guy was waiting in the green room till the late teens/early 20s and then was selected by the Vikings. The story I heard was the guy called Denny Green up and pleaded that he pick him.


hmm must be a minnesota thing. that happened in the nba draft when mchale took rick rickert in the 2nd round. fucking douche bag.

[Galaxy]

I will say this about the interview. She really just asked questions that have already been asked (dreds, Ricky Williams, etc). It just worked because he's really touched to be picked as high as he was. So, it's more him, in my opinion. She didn't really give a great interview...it just fell in her lap.

Good thing Joe Namath isn't being drafted and interviewed again. :)

[moriarty]

If Rodgers aint picked by the Bucs, he's gonna be one nervous kid in the Green Room.

Interesting to see just how far he falls.

[Joe]

Interesting to see just how far he falls.


packers at 24

[Arles]

If the Packers pick a QB at #24, I will be very disappointed. At any rate, I doubt he falls past Carolina.

[maximus]

Benson to the Bears!!! I like the pick.

GO BEARS!!!!

[st.cronin]

15 minutes a pick is way too effin' long.

[Noop]

15 minutes a pick is way too effin' long.
10 mins should be the max....

[moriarty]

If the Packers pick a QB at #24, I will be very disappointed. At any rate, I doubt he falls past Carolina.

I just can't see him falling that far ... but who knows. I can't see a California boy playing on the fronzen tundra up in GreenBay though.

[TazFTW]

I remember one year where a guy was waiting in the green room till the late teens/early 20s and then was selected by the Vikings. The story I heard was the guy called Denny Green up and pleaded that he pick him.
Looking at past Vikings' drafts, I'm pretty sure the player was Dwayne Rudd. I think that also started the NFL to invite less players as Dwayne Rudd being in the green room was becoming a huge story.

[TazFTW]

lol

[Schmidty]

HOLY SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!

WILLIAMS!!!!!!!!!!!!

I AM HAPPY BUT SCARED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[moriarty]

Wow .... Joey better be able to hit these guys.

[cartman]

The Cowboys had better pick Derrick Johnson.

That is all.

[Eaglesfan27]

Oh yeah! The Lions might have just become my third favorite team behind the Eagles and Saints. Williams will be awesome beside their other receivers. Harrington better get it done this year.

[cthomer5000]

first shocker of the day... whoa!

[Logan]

Not a chance in hell Williams stays with Detroit.

It was a smart pick by them, because he would have gotten picked up by Dallas at 11. Now they can sit back and listen to offers.

[SFL Cat]

Detroit has some of the top young WR in the business now. No excuses for a lacklustre passing game.

[SFL Cat]

dola -- Go BOYS!!!

[finkenst]

Kolber is retarded. Williams told her he has a bet with Ronnie Brown on who would be chosen. She then asks something along the lines of, "Did you and Ronnie have a bet on who would be chosen?"

Even my wife noticed that. Mercy.
Or, his brilliant quote of "Ronnie may have won the war but the battle's not over."

[moriarty]

Where's all the Lion's fans today?

BTW - any chance Dallas selects Rodgers down at #20 if he's still there?

[TazFTW]

Not a chance in hell Williams stays with Detroit.

It was a smart pick by them, because he would have gotten picked up by Dallas at 11. Now they can sit back and listen to offers.
I don't know. Dallas needed a speedy receiver more. Plus picking another possesion receiver will just make Keyshawn even more unbearable, unless that's what Parcells considers as motivation.

[FF]

if dets receivers can stay on the field, next year is going to be a great year.

[duckman]

What the fuck is Matt Millen thinking?

[rexallllsc]

I just can't see him falling that far ... but who knows. I can't see a California boy playing on the fronzen tundra up in GreenBay though.


He played at a JC in Idaho...

[Schmidty]

Where's all the Lion's fans today?

BTW - any chance Dallas selects Rodgers down at #20 if he's still there?

I'm right here.

[cartman]

What the fuck is Matt Millen thinking?

Maybe he's trying to follow the Rams style of the late 90s.

[duckman]

I wouldn't be suprised if Parcells trades down a few spots for extra picks.

[cthomer5000]

I wouldn't be suprised if Parcells trades down a few spots for extra picks.
would make some sense to me, if they can get a decent offer.

[moriarty]

He played at a JC in Idaho...

I thought he played in Chico? Or maybe he lives in Chico ...

edit: per NFL.com

Rodgers was a two-time all-section selection at Pleasant Valley (Chico, Calif.) High School, where he threw for 2,176 yards as a senior and 2,243 yards during his junior campaign … Attended Butte (Calif.) Junior College in 2002, where he led the team to a No. 2 ranking in the national polls, completing 164 of 265 passes (61.9 percent) for 2,408 yards, 28 touchdowns and only four interceptions, adding 294 yards with seven scores on 101 carries (2.9 avg.) …

[duckman]

Funny I said he would be a first day pick and I will stick to that opinion.
Opinions are like assholes.......

;)

[cartman]

Bad pick by the Boys, IMO.

[Draft Dodger]

Mike Williams is a great pick

[Noop]

Funny when I was watching D.Ware perform during the combine footage on NFL Network I remember seeing Parcells face ligth up.

[Maple Leafs]

that's usually about right. no one wants to risk sitting there for 30 picks.
So why is Aaron Rodgers there?

[cartman]

Funny when I was watching D.Ware perform during the combine footage on NFL Network I remember seeing Parcells face ligth up.

That's because the free buffet was on the other side of the field, behind Ware.

:D

[duckman]

Bad pick by the Boys, IMO.
I like it personally. The guy can play both DE and OLB.

[Noop]

Opinions are like assholes.......

;)
Yeah your one of the biggest around.

[Noop]

That's because the free buffet was on the other side of the field, behind Ware.

:D
I thougth he was eating healthier since he is getting up there in age. Migth have been a salad buffet for all I know.

[duckman]

Yeah your one of the biggest around.
You and your compliments. :D

[TazFTW]

I like it personally. The guy can play both DE and OLB.
So do I. Although I would have picked Derrick Johnson, had he been available which he was.

The Cowboys had Ware ahead of Merriman.

[moriarty]

So why is Aaron Rodgers there?

Methinks either some team told him they would take him .... and changed their mind or his agent is an idiot and didn't want to tell him that he probably wasn't going top 10.

[Noop]

So do I. Although I would have picked Derrick Johnson, had he been available which he was.

The Cowboys had Ware ahead of Merriman.
I know some Texas fans may not agree with me but Derrick Johnson is kinda of overrated. Great college player but I am not sure if he will translate that into the NFL where fullbacks are like mini guards who move fast and hit hard. Also after reading his scouting report shedding block seems to be a weakness for him. If any Texas fan can confirm this please do so or anyone who has seen him play alot more then I have..(I watched him about 4 times this season but i was flipping channels)

[cartman]

I think at least a couple of the the DE/OLB types the Cowboys were looking at are still going to be around for their #20 pick. DJ will be long gone by then.

[cartman]

dola,

my big knock on Ware was that his draft board rise seemed to be solely based on his combine performance. In most instances, a great combine performance does not translate into a productive NFL career.

[cartman]

double dola

I think the Texans are gonna get DJ with this pick.

[Schmidty]

Nothing gets me more motivated to play some FOF than draft day.

[fantastic flying froggies]

I think the Texans are gonna get DJ with this pick.
He might still go at #13, but not to Houston as New Orleans has just traded up.

[FF]

i hope victor rogers or kelly butler can play RT for the lions

[Noop]

Interesting they think Brown is better then Barron.

[cartman]

Nope, the Saints take an offensive lineman.

I think it's gonna be a while before the Saints trade up to draft another Longhorn in the first round...

:D

[DeToxRox]

i hope victor rogers or kelly butler can play RT for the lions

Lions signed a tackle from San Fran the other day. Started all 16 games for em.

[DeToxRox]

And since I just got on.

I didn't think Mike Williams was God as Mel Kiper does, but in the situation he can be in in Detroit, he's going to thrive. Lions couldn't convert third downs and couldn't convert in the redzone.

[cartman]

speaking of, where are the posts from Mel Kiper's Hair?

[TazFTW]

Interesting they think Brown is better then Barron.
Barron' stock has fallen as a quite a few teams think he's lazy.

[sovereignstar]

speaking of, where are the posts from Mel Kiper's Hair?

That username is banned.

[FF]

Lions signed a tackle from San Fran the other day. Started all 16 games for em.

i thought it was just an offer-sheet?

[cartman]

ah, exiled to the kingdom of bannination. I always had the feeling MKH was one of HM's alter egos.

[Crapshoot]

Barron will be fine - shit, you don't have to love football to be good at it - and that's what the apparent problem is. I could see Philly trading up to get him or Khalid barnes.

[Noop]

Barron' stock has fallen as a quite a few teams think he's lazy.
Could be true.

[Cuckoo]

I think at least a couple of the the DE/OLB types the Cowboys were looking at are still going to be around for their #20 pick. DJ will be long gone by then.

I have to agree with a few people who aren't as enamored with Johnson as some others. Don't get me wrong; I think he'll be a good pro, a very good player. But I don't have a problem with the Cowboys not taking him.

My problem with the Cowboys is that DeMarcus Ware may in fact be a very good player, but I'm always hesitant about guys who play outstanding in small conferences. He hasn't played against the best competition, and combine scores typically aren't enough to sway me. I would've felt more comfortable with a Merriman pick. Hopefully, Ware will prove me wrong.

[Scarecrow]

HOLY SHIT!!!!!

KC might have to choose between Derrick Johnson & Thomas Davis....



(watch them take the TE)

[Noop]

Thomas Davis is alrigth.

[Honolulu_Blue]

HOLY SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!

WILLIAMS!!!!!!!!!!!!

I AM HAPPY BUT SCARED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This pretty sums my reaction exactly.

[Maple Leafs]

Geez, enough of the "message for Aaron Rodgers" nonsense. He's a big boy, he'll be fine.

[Honolulu_Blue]

Where's all the Lion's fans today?

BTW - any chance Dallas selects Rodgers down at #20 if he's still there?
Right here. Just a bit quiet. Entertaining some folks today.

[Honolulu_Blue]

i thought it was just an offer-sheet?
It became official yesterday or the day before. The 49ers didn't match.

[Honolulu_Blue]

And since I just got on.

I didn't think Mike Williams was God as Mel Kiper does, but in the situation he can be in in Detroit, he's going to thrive. Lions couldn't convert third downs and couldn't convert in the redzone.
Exactly. The Lions were pathetic in the red zone. Horrible. If C-Rog stays healthy, they'll have an amazing WR core. If Harrington can't get it done, Garcia will be in there in a second.

[yabanci]

arrghh, i think the Chiefs got a steal with DJ. I hate the chiefs.

[moriarty]

Geez, enough of the "message for Aaron Rodgers" nonsense. He's a big boy, he'll be fine.

Anyone in the 'Green Room' or whatever they call it slip to the 2nd round before. It'd be kinda funny.

[Joe]

Barron will be fine - shit, you don't have to love football to be good at it - and that's what the apparent problem is.


Ricky Williams?

[FF]

It became official yesterday or the day before. The 49ers didn't match.

i had completely missed it but i see it now. can any 49er fans give any input on this guy and if he can play RT?

[TazFTW]

Randy Mueller just said this in ESPN's draft cast,

Randy Mueller: (3:21 PM ET ) Derrick Johnson is a great athlete. He looks like tarzan. He can go sideline to sideline and run like a deer. He struggles at the point of attack when taking people on. He's also not a great tackler. They will get a really good athlete who can play any of the three LB spots....consistency and toughness will be the areas to watch with this kid.Uh oh, will Johnson play like Jane?

[DeToxRox]

i thought it was just an offer-sheet?

SF didn't match. We don't have a 7th now for the comp for him/

[Ragone]

Someone alert nfl security.. get pac man jones in for a drug test now :P

i swear he looked high... As for Derrick Johnson.. it was a pick kc needed to make

[DeToxRox]

i thought it was just an offer-sheet?

Niners didn't match.

[Ragone]

Oh and.. instead of telling aaron rodgers stories about past draft people waiting... how about some analysis on what teams are looking at.. instead of 7 minutes of commercials and a 3 minute story then.. gasp.. hey they are picking.. who you think they are taking?

[moriarty]

Oh and.. instead of telling aaron rodgers stories about past draft people waiting... how about some analysis on what teams are looking at.. instead of 7 minutes of commercials and a 3 minute story then.. gasp.. hey they are picking.. who you think they are taking?

Would you settle for Mel Kiper's Greatest Hits?

[Ragone]

Would you settle for Mel Kiper's Greatest Hits?


I'd settle for them doing something like say... discussing who the current team up is looking at.. which they stopped doing at about pick 10

[Suicane75]

Is Dan Cody the dude a bunch of people here were arguing over during the season? Any chance he falls to the Eagles?

[TargetPractice6]

At this point in the draft do team really need all 15 minutes to decide? Does anybody ever have a pick ready to go when it is their turn and get up there in a couple minutes?

[TazFTW]

It's not the picks, its the trade talk.

[Ragone]

I'm sure the pick is decided within the first 4-5 minutes.. the trade offers they wait up till 2-3 minutes left on

[Maple Leafs]

How long until the Browns trade up to pick Rodgers?

[korme]

pollack bitches!

[Ragone]

And Cincinnati takes another undersized end.. wee!

[Cuckoo]

Is Dan Cody the dude a bunch of people here were arguing over during the season? Any chance he falls to the Eagles?


Cody has slipped quite a bit lately due mostly to a mediocre performance at the pro-day as well as concerns over his bout with clinical depression a few years back. Also, there are questions about his size (he's a little thin).

I think he'll fall to the end of the 1st round - beginning of 2nd round, but whoever takes him will be getting a very good pass-rusher.

[Tigercat]

Interesting they think Brown is better then Barron.

Saints needed a RT, not a LT. Brown was the best RT in the draft. Barron is a LT prospect. The Saints had to trade up to get Brown because the Panthers were going to pick him ahead of the Saints. Always fun to get the best player at the biggest hole on the team and mess up a division rival at the same time.

[BigJohn&TheLions]

AM I the only one who really wants to see S.F. pick up Alex Smith from Stanford?

[Maple Leafs]

I'm kind of looking forward to seeing Rodgers drop the second round, then awkwardly pose for photos holding a #1 jersey.

[Ragone]

I'm kind of looking forward to seeing Rodgers drop the second round, then awkwardly pose for photos holding a #1 jersey.



haha.. What would be even more amusing is if he got to washington's other pick and they took Jason Campbell anyway

[TazFTW]

I think its time for Rodger to just go back to the hotel.

[sovereignstar]

Cody has slipped quite a bit lately due mostly to a mediocre performance at the pro-day as well as concerns over his bout with clinical depression a few years back. Also, there are questions about his size (he's a little thin).

I think he'll fall to the end of the 1st round - beginning of 2nd round, but whoever takes him will be getting a very good pass-rusher.

Suicane won't want him then. He likes to make fun of football player with depression.
;)

[Ragone]

hehe i had to ask about aaron rodgers on that espn draft chat :P

[cthomer5000]

I'm kind of looking forward to seeing Rodgers drop the second round, then awkwardly pose for photos holding a #1 jersey.
That would be personally amusing. http://dynamic2.gamespy.com/%7Efof/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif

[rexallllsc]

haha.. What would be even more amusing is if he got to washington's other pick and they took Jason Campbell anyway

That would be strange...it's weird how high Campbell's stock has risen. He was pretty average as a JR.

[Swaggs]

I'm getting excited with the possibility of Mark Clayton or Roddy White sliding down to Pittsburgh. I thought the Cowboys would take one of the two, for sure.

[Suicane75]

What are they booing?

[Ragone]

haha espn's draft chat just got more amusing

Carter
Ricky Williams is gonna come back

Randy Mueller
Carter, I think you have been hanging out in the same tent with him.. at 209 pounds he's of no use to anyone

[Joe]

great, vikings took erasmus james. i give him 20 games before his leg falls off.

[mckerney]

I like the James pick, though I'm still not completely sold on him. A D-line with Udeze, Williams, and James with someone like Darion Scott at tackle should be good on passing downs.

[Swaggs]

Wow. Not the WR I expected off the board next.

[korme]

what the fuck! what a curveball! jones goes ahead of white and clayton!!

[Cuckoo]

No doubt about Dallas' tranformation to the 3-4 now. As an OU fan, I would've loved to see them take Clayton, but... :)

That said, I think Spears is a good pick. I feel much more comfortable with him actually than I do with Ware, but maybe that's because I've seen much more of Spears.

I would question now what'll happen with Greg Ellis and/or LaRoi Glover. Both are small in the down position in a 3-4. With Ferguson and Spears presumably manning two of the three spots, one of Ellis or Glover becomes either trade bait or a mere rotation guy.

[hhiipp]

MattJones4FirstRound

[korme]

proud day for MJ4H eh?

[Swaggs]

What does Matt Jones do as a rookie for the Jags? Any predictions?

I'm personally glad because I was worried the Steelers might take him.

[TazFTW]

He could move into the starting lineup because Reggie Williams was horrible last year.

[Eaglesfan27]

I was hoping the Eagles would take Matt Jones. I think he is going to be a very good player.

[Ragone]

Thats a bit of a reach. i think i would have taken clayton before him..

[korme]

he'll get 25-40 catches

[MikeVic]

What does Matt Jones do as a rookie for the Jags? Any predictions?

I'm personally glad because I was worried the Steelers might take him.

I wanted Steelers to take him if he was available for the fun factor. :)

[Ragone]

Matt jones will get hit in training camp by a axe in the locker room.. thus making mj4h change his name to mattjones4ir

[korme]

i bet matt jones smokes a ton of cheeba

i'm an assumption man

[Ragone]

And Baltimore takes advantage of jacksonville's mistake by picking Clayton

[TazFTW]

trade

Seattle and Oakland

Oakland gets #23

Seattle gets #26 and 105

[Ragone]

ooh.. bet oakland takes rodgers here

[yabanci]

it's got to be Fabian Washington to Oak. I hope. Speed kills.

[Easy Mac]

Man, what if Rodgers somehow fell to SF in the second round.. take him to cover your ass

[rexallllsc]

ooh.. bet oakland takes rodgers here

Holy crap I was just gonna post, "I bet the Raiders are bummed they traded their #1 away, Rodgers would be a perfect fit"

[Swaggs]

Green Bay and Rodgers maybe?

[MikeVic]

I was expecting the Raiders to take Rogers with that pick... the trade-up made sense then.

[rexallllsc]

I was expecting the Raiders to take Rogers with that pick... the trade-up made sense then.

Agreed.

Weird.

[Northwood_DK]

just two more picks and he is out of the first round !!

[Swaggs]

I bet I finish last in the Solecismic contest. :)

[fantastic flying froggies]

I bet I finish last in the Solecismic contest. :)
No, that would be me. ;)

[Swaggs]

No, that would be me. ;)

The best you can hope for is to tie my zero. ;)

[Arles]

Well, Green Bay does have 2 second round picks and there wasn't much value here on the defensive need areas (OLB, S, DE). I'm not thrilled about Rodgers, but we'll see what they do with their second rounders. At a minimum, it's great value.

[TroyF]

And Baltimore takes advantage of jacksonville's mistake by picking Clayton

Disagree greatly here.

Clayton is a small, quick WR who relies on accurate, pinpoint passes so he can do what he does best. . . run after the catch. So what he needs to be his best, Kyle Boller does worst. I think Clayton will have a decent NFL carreer, nothing more.

Jones is bigger (MUCH bigger), faster, stronger and has more overall skills. Jax deserves props for making the right pick here. At the end of the day, I think people are going to regret not picking Jones higher than 21. He's going to be a terrific WR in this league.

[Arles]

As an FYI, why did Oakland trade up three spots? Seattle wants a WR, GB has about 100 young corners and didn't target Washington and the Skins grabbed the CB from Auburn at 9. You would think that he would have been there three picks later.

[Joe]

packers at 24


ahem....



:D

[TazFTW]

As an FYI, why did Oakland trade up three spots? Seattle wants a WR, GB has about 100 young corners and didn't target Washington and the Skins grabbed the CB from Auburn at 9. You would think that he would have been there three picks later.
Fear that someone else would trade up.

[Suicane75]

As annoying as Berman usualy is, that last little segment may have been the most annoying he's ever been.

[Swaggs]

Please Washington and Seattle pass on Roddy White.

[rexallllsc]

As annoying as Berman usualy is, that last little segment may have been the most annoying he's ever been.

I didnt see it...what happened?

[MikeVic]

Seattle needs defense, don't they?

[Suicane75]

I didnt see it...what happened?
Green Bays pick was up and he was like "draft him, draft him, come on, come on, draft him, draft him"

[cthomer5000]

Green Bays pick was up and he was like "draft him, draft him, come on, come on, draft him, draft him"
Yeah, it really was obnoxious as hell. Like he had money riding on him going to GB.

[ShovelMonkey]

Green Bays pick was up and he was like "draft him, draft him, come on, come on, draft him, draft him"


I was finding it a little hard not to root for Rodgers myself. I think it's perfect situation; come in and sit a year or two behind Brett, get used to the cold...

[rexallllsc]

Green Bays pick was up and he was like "draft him, draft him, come on, come on, draft him, draft him"

EEEYIKES.

And I get what you're saying about Berman being annoying, but I don't think he was always this way. Or maybe his schtick wasn't so worn out then :)

[Joe]

EEEYIKES.

And I get what you're saying about Berman being annoying, but I don't think he was always this way. Or maybe his schtick wasn't so worn out then :)



he's always been trash.

[VPI97]

Please Washington and Seattle pass on Roddy White.Please Atlanta, pass on Roddy White ;)

We need defense

[rexallllsc]

Anyways, I think it's a great pick for GB. The guy has a compact motion and was really really good in the Pac-10 this year. Throws accurate and hard. I wonder if the knock on him is that he's a guy who was a product of Tedford's amazing system (Dilfer, Carr, Akili Smith, Harrington, Boller)?

I wonder if Smith would've fallen this far as well if Rodgers went #1?

[Swaggs]

Please Atlanta, pass on Roddy White ;)

We need defense

Maybe Shuan or Dan Cody?

[moriarty]

Anyways, I think it's a great pick for GB. The guy has a compact motion and was really really good in the Pac-10 this year. Throws accurate and hard. I wonder if the knock on him is that he's a guy who was a product of Tedford's amazing system (Dilfer, Carr, Akili Smith, Harrington, Boller)?

I wonder if Smith would've fallen this far as well if Rodgers went #1?

Not likely as I think Tampa Bay really liked him.

I think it's a good pick if he can handle the weather up in GreenBay. Again, I'm worried about any California boy playing up there in the winter.

[Joe]

Anyways, I think it's a great pick for GB. The guy has a compact motion and was really really good in the Pac-10 this year. Throws accurate and hard. I wonder if the knock on him is that he's a guy who was a product of Tedford's amazing system (Dilfer, Carr, Akili Smith, Harrington, Boller)?

I wonder if Smith would've fallen this far as well if Rodgers went #1?


I don't think Smith would've fallen this far. I think some teams would've traded up to get him. Or Tampa at 5.

[Joe]

Not likely as I think Tampa Bay really liked him.

I think it's a good pick if he can handle the weather up in GreenBay. Again, I'm worried about any California boy playing up there in the winter.


Its ok. For the first few years he'll be able to wear a big winter coat on the sidelines.

[rexallllsc]

Not likely as I think Tampa Bay really liked him.

I think it's a good pick if he can handle the weather up in GreenBay. Again, I'm worried about any California boy playing up there in the winter.

It will definitely be interesting to see how it goes, but keep in mind that he played at an Idaho JC, and it gets pretty cold there, no?

[Swaggs]

Sonofa... :mad:

[VPI97]

Maybe Shuan or Dan Cody?I was hoping for Dan Cody....

Why in the world do they think adding another third wide receiver is going to do anything? We have a whole team full of those.

[Joe]

It will definitely be interesting to see how it goes, but keep in mind that he played at an Idaho JC, and it gets pretty cold there, no?


not 30 below zero :p

[Schmidty]

I was hoping for Dan Cody....

Why in the world do they think adding another third wide receiver is going to do anything? We have a whole team full of those.

Plus, Mexico can't complete a damn pass to them anyway......

[Swaggs]

I'm guessing the Steelers will look at TE Heath Miller now and, if he is gone, maybe CB Marlin Jackson (who is from the area).

So, those two should be the next two picked by the Chargers and Colts.

[MikeVic]

Plus, Mexico can't complete a damn pass to them anyway......

I thought he could pass it on to anyone?

[Eaglesfan27]

I'm glad to see the Eagles take a USC Player, but I hate that Corey Simon will be gone this upcoming year.

[TazFTW]

C'mon Channing Crowder. NE selects you and I win Jim's contest.

[TazFTW]

Logan Mankins? Boooooooooooo

[tucker rocky]

Now begins the bargin hunting. (2nd round)

[sovereignstar]

Nugent! Nugent!

[TazFTW]

That guy looks pissed.

[Arles]

Keep grabbing those OL, maybe a DE, LB or safety will slip to GB at No. 51.

[Schmidty]

Keep grabbing those OL, maybe a DE, LB or safety will slip to GB at No. 51.

Not if the Lions can help it. We could use all of the above.

Plus, I hate you guys.

[Eaglesfan27]

Yep, he does look pissed.

I'm hoping the Eagles take a good RB with the #35 pick, perhaps J.J. Arrington from Cal if they didn't complete a trade for Travis Henry.

[Swaggs]

I'm surprised that no one has taken Jammal Brown yet.

[Eaglesfan27]

I like Reggie Brown here. I really hope they get Henry or a good RB later today.

[TazFTW]

I'm surprised that no one has taken Jammal Brown yet.
The Saints grabbed him at #13.

[Schmidty]

I'm surprised that no one has taken Jammal Brown yet.

This is why you are a bad GM. :)

[Arles]

Not if the Lions can help it. We could use all of the above.
Not to worry, you guys will just grab another receiver. :p

[Schmidty]

Not to worry, you guys will just grab another receiver. :p

Or Shaun Cody ;)

[Swaggs]

This is why you are a bad GM. :)

I dropped the ball yet again. :(

[TazFTW]

whoa, how did Detroit get that pick?

[Arles]

traded up 4 spots with Tennessee (gave up a 4th to do it)

[Schmidty]

whoa, how did Detroit get that pick?

Millen's ingenuity.

In other words: I don't know yet.

[Schmidty]

traded up 4 spots with Tennessee (gave up a 4th to do it)

That makes me mad if true. But Cody is a 1st round-caliber stud.

[TazFTW]

Aw, nuts. I was hoping Bradley would last till Dallas' pick.

[-Mojo Jojo-]

I think it's a good pick if he can handle the weather up in GreenBay. Again, I'm worried about any California boy playing up there in the winter.

Yeah, I'm sure that a QB from a warm state like Alabama or Louisiana would never succeed in Green Bay.. :p

[Arles]

Guys I would love if GB could get at 51. Here's hoping one is available (my pref is one of the top 3):

ILB Channing Crowder
ILB Odell Thurman
SS Ernest Shazor
OLB Kevin Burnett
DT Anttaj Hawthorne
OLB Darryl Blackstock
DE Justin Tuck
DE Dan Cody
DT Jonathan Babineaux

[Arles]

That makes me mad if true. But Cody is a 1st round-caliber stud.
From ESPN:

Lions get: Tennessee's second-round pick (No. 37 overall) and selected DE Shaun Cody.
Titans get: Detroit's second-round pick (No. 41) and fourth-round pick (No. 113).
Still, I agree that Cody is a nice player.

[Joe]

Yeah, I'm sure that a QB from a warm state like Alabama or Louisiana would never succeed in Green Bay.. :p

they would be ok. but nobody from Mississippi could make it up there.

[TazFTW]

Ooh Michael Roos.

[TazFTW]

Hmmm, no good WRs to take this high. Maybe grab OT Khalif Barnes to fill the RT spot or Ciatrick Fason as Julius Jones backup.

[HomerJSimpson]

I was hoping for Dan Cody....

Why in the world do they think adding another third wide receiver is going to do anything? We have a whole team full of those.


Is it time to panic yet? Picked Jenkins last year (who did nothing) and now this?

[Young Drachma]

Aaron Rodgers is probably happier in Green Bay than elsewhere, me thinks.

[Pyser]

giants looking to the other cody with the next pick maybe?

[TazFTW]

More defense.

[Arles]

Matt Roth is still on the board, isn't he? Well add him to my list as well ;)

[TazFTW]

Hmm, Corey Webster.

[Pyser]

yes! goodbye will allen!

thank god.

[Arles]

Here's a call, if Arizona selects JJ Arrington, the Henry deal is off. If they go elsewhere, there may be a deal for Henry in the works.

[VPI97]

Is it time to panic yet? Picked Jenkins last year (who did nothing) and now this?I thought they should have taken another WR instead of him last year, but to be fair, they didn't give Jenkins a chance during the season. From from what I was hearing, they expected his role to increase this season....I guess that was false.

[Arles]

Webster's main negatives were speed and the fact he scored a 12 on the wonderlick. That said, he's a nice pick midway through the 2nd.

[HomerJSimpson]

I thought they should have taken another WR instead of him last year, but to be fair, they didn't give Jenkins a chance during the season. From from what I was hearing, they expected his role to increase this season....I guess that was false.


Either that, or they hope to move Price. I don't see how they could, though.

[Cuckoo]

Wow, can't believe nobody has picked Dan Cody yet. I remember right at the end of the season they were talking like he was a top 15 pick, and Kiper had him ranked a LOT higher than this.

[Arles]

Here's a call, if Arizona selects JJ Arrington, the Henry deal is off. If they go elsewhere, there may be a deal for Henry in the works.
Denny loved JJ. So, it makes sense that Arizona would go that way if the Henry deal was off. This also means that Philly is shoo-in for Henry.

[General Mike]

Webster's main negatives were speed and the fact he scored a 12 on the wonderlick. That said, he's a nice pick midway through the 2nd.

Decent. Still don't trust Accorsi's draft acumen.

[TazFTW]

Parcells just compared Demarcus Ware to LT.

[sovereignstar]

Parcells just compared Demarcus Ware to LT.

Does he like coke or something?

[Arles]

Parcells just compared Demarcus Ware to LT.
Let the hyperbole begin!

[Eaglesfan27]

Denny loved JJ. So, it makes sense that Arizona would go that way if the Henry deal was off. This also means that Philly is shoo-in for Henry.

I hope you are right. I'm going to be annoyed if the Eagles don't get Henry or Arrington.

[TazFTW]

Go Lofa!

[Arles]

Wow, Lofa Tatupu. Scouts.INC had him graded out as a round 4 prospect. Seattle must have been scared off by the character issues by Crowder and Thurman.

[General Mike]

Matt Roth to the Dolphins = Great Pick

What are the Jets fans chanting?

[Arles]

Roth to Miami - great pick.

[Joe]

Wow, Lofa Tatupu. Scouts.INC had him graded out as a round 4 prospect. Seattle must have been scared off by the character issues by Crowder and Thurman.


but trading up to get him? i'm not so sure he wouldn't have been there at 54.

[TazFTW]

Ahaha. Love the crowd reaction.

[General Mike]

Jets take Mike Nugent :wow: Good pick, especially since Brien sucks.

[sovereignstar]

Jets take Mike Nugent :wow: Good pick, especially since Brien sucks.

Paging Morten Andersen *sighs*