do i switch training?

[blackout]

OK, I am in a heated debate with myself, and want some input:

I have the following trainees:

20 supernatural +4 or 5 (USA!, a YP of mine)
19 world class
2 19 brilliants (1 is close to mag)
1 19 outstanding/mag SP
1 19 formidible

based on their age, this is the perfect time if i want to switch training types. I would keep 2 trainees, and sell the rest. At this point I would want to keep the supernatural, and probably the outstanding with the set pieces, although one of the brilliants will be mag by the end of the offseason...

Also, with he offseason, it gives me a chance to sell of guys and train 3 through the offseason... then switching at week 1 of next season. I would likely switch to winger, although keeper is interesting too. If I switch to winger i'd buy trainees, and then buy a good keeper... and vice versa.

do I stick with scoring? or do I bail? I see switching training as a way to round my team better... thoughts?

[KevinNU7]

I had 4 PM pops last night. Do I switch training

21 Titanic +0 (foreign)
20 Titanic +0 (foreign)
20 World Class +0 (Passable passing/defending) (USA)
19 Brilliant +6 (USA)
18 Outstanding +1 (USA)
21 ET Winger with solid +6.5 PM (foreign) (And always fucking hurt or carded lately)
19 Formidable +0 (USA)

My main issue has always been salary, I love training PM but the future salary is scaring the crap out of me. The original plan was to sell the old guy and by a young cheap salary guy to fill in for training. Now with 4 guys popping I'm thinking of selling everyone. But my issue is in trying to get 3 american midfielders to come in and be my players for the next 5 seasons. I could keep the World Class American with good secondaries but then I'd have to bring in two American Titanics. There isn't exactly a ton of them on transfer list.

[saintjo]

scoring seems to be one of the more profitable training programs at the moment from what i hear. but there is nothing wrong with switching if you really want to. i agree that you are probably at a good point in your training program to do so.
i dont agree that switching training is a good way to round out your team though. the best method is still just sticking to one program and selling trainees to buy well trained players in other positions in my opinion.

[Mr. Wednesday]

The only thing you lose by switching training is the agent fees for swapping trainees. Other than that (and the inherent inefficiency of training a less popular skill), there's no difference in how you go about it.

[sterlingice]

Kevin: From my wages and what I've seen- you want to stop at around Supernatural/Titan. Low ETs have 65K wages up to 100K+ and so they actually sell for less than SNs. I'd sell your two titanics and plan to go with those WC and Bril as well as a third to-be-determined middie (provided they have the secondaries you want) and then pick up a couple of form/outs to train that will be in that WC range when you want to switch training.

blackout: I think you're at the worst time to change training. At the level you're at, you can gain quite a bit per level, more than you were gaining when you started training those guys. I would sell the SN when he bumps. Then again, the scorer market is wacky to me. The sweet spot is a little lower. For PMs, it's about SN for scorers, it looks like WC-ish if they have good passing. So I may be completely off base. That said, winger and keeper markets are not the place to go if you want to contend long term- they're cash drains. You just never make that much cash on keepers and winger training is best when you're making a custom guy for your team because I just don't see the market out there- why pay $5M for a player when you can spend $3M on the same PM-level guy and just play him WTM.

SI

[RPI-Fan]

SI is right, there isn't much of a market for true dominating wingers.

But I do have one guy I'm training for my own team (two guys, actually) who are Brilliant and Formidable PM, both with Formidable winger. At this time next season, I'll be looking at some absolutely fabulous wingers, and a couple years down the road...

I figure these guys, when they're finished, will be in the Titanic wing range, which will make them Div II or MLS quality players. So although they may not be all that useful now, when I move up they will be essential

[blackout]

I should add, I want to train wingers for the sole reason of attack ratings. I figure with 2 really good scorers, and then with 2 higher level offensive wings, I could do some serious damage with attack ratings. While profit is nice, my main goal is to find ways to win AND make a profit. I just see winger as a way to have a training program that will help me do that (for example, to train MF, I would lessen my current MF by buying trainees... that goes for defense too... so winger and keeper were left)

I'm still thinking, so keep the comments coming :)

[akickku]

I'd recommend doing what si said. Train until supernatural and switch. I think this is the best idea because by keeping several players, you'll probably save at least 1 million just by not transfering them. My advice is to avoid the transfer market for high priced players as much as you can. I have 3 18 year old brilliants right now that I'm gonna train until I can't afford them getting any better because of their wages. I'll keep the two best and switch at that point.

[blackout]

An event making this decision a bit easier, was pulling a 17 solid winger tonight. Nothing special, but a free trainee. I think I'll switch when the SN pops (which should be over the offseason)